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  • Re: Plasma 6 in Debian?

    From Martin Steigerwald@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 26 10:10:01 2024
    Hi.

    Shmerl - 25.04.24, 23:05:06 CEST:
    Now that the 64-bit time_t transition is mostly unblocked, will we see
    Plasma 6 packaged soon?

    Mostly unblocked? While there are quite some transitions at 100% more are scheduled and there are still uninstallable / not upgradeable packages¹.
    The churn of what might be the biggest and longest "we break everything
    and then some for the greater good" transformation of Debian I remember is still not fully settled.

    Members of the Debian Qt/KDE team are working on packages and uploading to experimental since quite a while already. Most of them KF6 related. Due to
    new names most, if not all, of them need to go through NEW. Those appear
    to get accepted by ftpmasters quite smoothly at the moment, but it still
    needs additional time.

    Also AFAIR there an updated set of KF5 packages needs to go to unstable
    first. I think it was due to some packages need to be provided as 5 and 6 versions and some missing features in the older KF5 packages currently in Debian preventing that, but I am not sure I got the exact explanation
    right.

    To summarize all of this in a short way: From what I have read it is to
    early to predict when Plasma 6 will hit Debian unstable. At the moment as
    far as I have seen KF6 is not yet completed. Then you need Plasma 6 and
    enough of KDE Gear 6 for it to make sense.

    Unfortunately asking "when it may be" does not speed up the process. If
    you can offer some help, I'd recommend to drop by in their chat and ask
    where you could help most efficiently.

    I answered this to the best of my knowledge from what I have seen in IRC
    chat of the team and in Debian's devel-changes mailing list. Hopefully
    this will save team members some time for answering here that they can
    spend on packaging work or for recreational purposes – it is
    understandable that someone does not choose to use 100% of their free time
    for packaging work :). They are all doing it in their spare time and
    writing an explanatory mail like this also takes time.

    Please correct if any of the above is not accurate.

    [1] https://release.debian.org/transitions/

    Best,
    --
    Martin

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    Le 26 avril 2024 10:05:19 GMT+02:00, Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de> a écrit :

    Members of the Debian Qt/KDE team are working on packages and uploading to >experimental since quite a while already. Most of them KF6 related. Due to >new names most, if not all, of them need to go through NEW. Those appear
    to get accepted by ftpmasters quite smoothly at the moment, but it still >needs additional time.

    Yes, and we're making good progress on kf6 thanks to the sustained effort of Patrick Franz in particular. 🙂

    Also AFAIR there an updated set of KF5 packages needs to go to unstable >first. I think it was due to some packages need to be provided as 5 and 6 >versions and some missing features in the older KF5 packages currently in >Debian preventing that, but I am not sure I got the exact explanation
    right.

    The exact reason is that the previous kf5 versions were not all co-installable with their kf6 counterparts. We want to have kf5 and kf6 co-installable to avoid breaking everything so we need the lastest version of kf5 to go in first.

    To summarize all of this in a short way: From what I have read it is to >early to predict when Plasma 6 will hit Debian unstable.

    Yes, that's it. It's coming and will be ready when it's ready. 🙂


    Happy hacking,
    --
    Aurélien
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    <!DOCTYPE html><html><body><div dir="auto"><br><br>Le 26 avril 2024 10:05:19 GMT+02:00, Martin Steigerwald &lt;martin@lichtvoll.de&gt; a écrit :<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Members of the Debian Qt/KDE team are working on packages and uploading to <br>&gt;
    experimental since quite a while already. Most of them KF6 related. Due to <br>&gt;new names most, if not all, of them need to go through NEW. Those appear <br>&gt;to get accepted by ftpmasters quite smoothly at the moment, but it still <br>&gt;needs
    additional time.<br><br>Yes, and we're making good progress on kf6 thanks to the sustained effort of Patrick Franz in particular. 🙂<br><br>&gt;Also AFAIR there an updated set of KF5 packages needs to go to unstable <br>&gt;first. I think it was due to
    some packages need to be provided as 5 and 6 <br>&gt;versions and some missing features in the older KF5 packages currently in <br>&gt;Debian preventing that, but I am not sure I got the exact explanation <br>&gt;right.<br><br>The exact reason is that
    the previous kf5 versions were not all co-installable with their kf6 counterparts. We want to have kf5 and kf6 co-installable to avoid breaking everything so we need the lastest version of kf5 to go in first.<br><br>&gt;To summarize all of this in a
    short way: From what I have read it is to <br>&gt;early to predict when Plasma 6 will hit Debian unstable.<br><br>Yes, that's it. It's coming and will be ready when it's ready. 🙂<br><br><br>Happy hacking,<br>--<br>Aurélien</div></body></html>
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