Someone needs to tell Nolan Allaer:
<https://cdn.connectsites.net/user_files/scca/downloads/000/069/593/FF%20Runoffs2023%20Grid%20Official.pdf?1695931384>
Not just fastest...
...but fastest by more than 6 tenths of a second...
...over one of the best young drivers (Jonathan Kotyk, winner of the 4
of the last 5 SCCA Runoffs.
But a self-appointed "expert" told us that Fords couldn't possibly be competitive, so this must just be some sort of mass illusion...
..right?
:-)
On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:53:44 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:Not just fastest...
Someone needs to tell Nolan Allaer:
<https://cdn.connectsites.net/user_files/scca/downloads/000/069/593/FF%20Runoffs2023%20Grid%20Official.pdf?1695931384>
...but fastest by more than 6 tenths of a second...
...over one of the best young drivers (Jonathan Kotyk, winner of
the 4 of the last 5 SCCA Runoffs.
But a self-appointed "expert" told us that Fords couldn't possibly
be competitive, so this must just be some sort of mass illusion...
..right?
:-)
Let's wait and see the race results tomorrow. I remember someone
telling me that you don't always run as hard as you can in
qualifying.
On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:53:44 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
Someone needs to tell Nolan Allaer:
<https://cdn.connectsites.net/user_files/scca/downloads/000/069/593/FF%20Runoffs2023%20Grid%20Official.pdf?1695931384>
Not just fastest...
...but fastest by more than 6 tenths of a second...
...over one of the best young drivers (Jonathan Kotyk, winner of
the 4 of the last 5 SCCA Runoffs.
But a self-appointed "expert" told us that Fords couldn't possibly
be competitive, so this must just be some sort of mass illusion...
..right?
:-)
Let's wait and see the race results tomorrow. I remember someone
telling me that you don't always run as hard as you can in
qualifying.
On 2023-09-30 16:00, Thomas E. wrote:
On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:53:44 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
Someone needs to tell Nolan Allaer:
<https://cdn.connectsites.net/user_files/scca/downloads/000/069/593/FF%20Runoffs2023%20Grid%20Official.pdf?1695931384>
Not just fastest...
...but fastest by more than 6 tenths of a second...
...over one of the best young drivers (Jonathan Kotyk, winner of
the 4 of the last 5 SCCA Runoffs.
But a self-appointed "expert" told us that Fords couldn't possibly
be competitive, so this must just be some sort of mass illusion...
..right?
:-)
Let's wait and see the race results tomorrow. I remember someone
telling me that you don't always run as hard as you can in
qualifying.
So Jonathan Allaer, in a Van Diemen RF00 Ford wins the 60th running of
the SCCA Runoffs in Formula F.
He won by 51 THOUSANDS of a second.
But somehow, I know someone will find a way to claim that this doesn't
show a Ford can still be competitive in Formula F.
:-)
Seriously, though: if you like road racing, this was a terrific race to watch. Until the car running third pressed too hard on the final lap,
the first three had been running within 0.3s of each other. As the
eventual winner said, it was a chess match at 100mph.
The action starts at about 3 hours 30 minutes in:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FZqt65MeS8>
On 2023-09-30 16:00, Thomas E. wrote:
On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:53:44 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
Someone needs to tell Nolan Allaer:
<https://cdn.connectsites.net/user_files/scca/downloads/000/069/593/FF%20Runoffs2023%20Grid%20Official.pdf?1695931384>
Not just fastest...
...but fastest by more than 6 tenths of a second...
...over one of the best young drivers (Jonathan Kotyk, winner of
the 4 of the last 5 SCCA Runoffs.
But a self-appointed "expert" told us that Fords couldn't possibly
be competitive, so this must just be some sort of mass illusion...
..right?
:-)
Let's wait and see the race results tomorrow. I remember someoneSo Jonathan Allaer, in a Van Diemen RF00 Ford wins the 60th running of
telling me that you don't always run as hard as you can in
qualifying.
the SCCA Runoffs in Formula F.
He won by 51 THOUSANDS of a second.
But somehow, I know someone will find a way to claim that this doesn't
show a Ford can still be competitive in Formula F.
:-)
Seriously, though: if you like road racing, this was a terrific race to watch. Until the car running third pressed too hard on the final lap,
the first three had been running within 0.3s of each other. As the
eventual winner said, it was a chess match at 100mph.
The action starts at about 3 hours 30 minutes in:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FZqt65MeS8>
On 2023-10-01 11:48, Alan wrote:
On 2023-09-30 16:00, Thomas E. wrote:
On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:53:44 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
Someone needs to tell Nolan Allaer:
<https://cdn.connectsites.net/user_files/scca/downloads/000/069/593/FF%20Runoffs2023%20Grid%20Official.pdf?1695931384>
Not just fastest...
...but fastest by more than 6 tenths of a second...
...over one of the best young drivers (Jonathan Kotyk, winner of
the 4 of the last 5 SCCA Runoffs.
But a self-appointed "expert" told us that Fords couldn't possibly
be competitive, so this must just be some sort of mass illusion...
..right?
:-)
Let's wait and see the race results tomorrow. I remember someone
telling me that you don't always run as hard as you can in
qualifying.
So Jonathan Allaer, in a Van Diemen RF00 Ford wins the 60th running of
the SCCA Runoffs in Formula F.
He won by 51 THOUSANDS of a second.
But somehow, I know someone will find a way to claim that this doesn't show a Ford can still be competitive in Formula F.
:-)
Seriously, though: if you like road racing, this was a terrific race to watch. Until the car running third pressed too hard on the final lap,
the first three had been running within 0.3s of each other. As the eventual winner said, it was a chess match at 100mph.
The action starts at about 3 hours 30 minutes in:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FZqt65MeS8>Just a little update for our resident "expert" on Formula F:
'If I had a single car team with an experienced driver I too would run a Ford motor as I think ultimately they are quicker.'
That's a quote from Brian Graham of Brian Graham Racing, who was running
the car for William Ferguson, 5th place finisher at this year's Runoffs.
<https://www.briangrahamracing.com>
'For more than two decades Brian has been mentoring and launching the careers of a long list of young drivers, and with team alumni currently racing in various professional series such as IndyCar and IMSA, the
quality of the program at BGR is second to none. The 2020 Indy 500 had
four of our alumni on the grid, along with representation over many
years at famous races such as the Rolex 24 Hours of Daytona and 12 Hours
of Sebring.'
But... ...what would HE know?
:-)
On 2023-10-01 11:48, Alan wrote:No reply to my October 7 question?
On 2023-09-30 16:00, Thomas E. wrote:
On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:53:44 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
Someone needs to tell Nolan Allaer:
<https://cdn.connectsites.net/user_files/scca/downloads/000/069/593/FF%20Runoffs2023%20Grid%20Official.pdf?1695931384>
Not just fastest...
...but fastest by more than 6 tenths of a second...
...over one of the best young drivers (Jonathan Kotyk, winner of
the 4 of the last 5 SCCA Runoffs.
But a self-appointed "expert" told us that Fords couldn't possibly
be competitive, so this must just be some sort of mass illusion...
..right?
:-)
Let's wait and see the race results tomorrow. I remember someone
telling me that you don't always run as hard as you can in
qualifying.
So Jonathan Allaer, in a Van Diemen RF00 Ford wins the 60th running of
the SCCA Runoffs in Formula F.
He won by 51 THOUSANDS of a second.
But somehow, I know someone will find a way to claim that this doesn't show a Ford can still be competitive in Formula F.
:-)
Seriously, though: if you like road racing, this was a terrific race to watch. Until the car running third pressed too hard on the final lap,
the first three had been running within 0.3s of each other. As the eventual winner said, it was a chess match at 100mph.
The action starts at about 3 hours 30 minutes in:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FZqt65MeS8>Just a little update for our resident "expert" on Formula F:
'If I had a single car team with an experienced driver I too would run a Ford motor as I think ultimately they are quicker.'
That's a quote from Brian Graham of Brian Graham Racing, who was running
the car for William Ferguson, 5th place finisher at this year's Runoffs.
<https://www.briangrahamracing.com>
'For more than two decades Brian has been mentoring and launching the careers of a long list of young drivers, and with team alumni currently racing in various professional series such as IndyCar and IMSA, the
quality of the program at BGR is second to none. The 2020 Indy 500 had
four of our alumni on the grid, along with representation over many
years at famous races such as the Rolex 24 Hours of Daytona and 12 Hours
of Sebring.'
But... ...what would HE know?
:-)
On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 5:38:53 AM UTC-7, Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 6:45:18 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-10-01 11:48, Alan wrote:No reply to my October 7 question?
On 2023-09-30 16:00, Thomas E. wrote:Just a little update for our resident "expert" on Formula F:
On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:53:44 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
Someone needs to tell Nolan Allaer:
<https://cdn.connectsites.net/user_files/scca/downloads/000/069/593/FF%20Runoffs2023%20Grid%20Official.pdf?1695931384>
Not just fastest...
...but fastest by more than 6 tenths of a second...
...over one of the best young drivers (Jonathan Kotyk, winner of
the 4 of the last 5 SCCA Runoffs.
But a self-appointed "expert" told us that Fords couldn't possibly >>>>>> be competitive, so this must just be some sort of mass illusion... >>>>>>
..right?
:-)
Let's wait and see the race results tomorrow. I remember someone
telling me that you don't always run as hard as you can in
qualifying.
So Jonathan Allaer, in a Van Diemen RF00 Ford wins the 60th running of >>>> the SCCA Runoffs in Formula F.
He won by 51 THOUSANDS of a second.
But somehow, I know someone will find a way to claim that this doesn't >>>> show a Ford can still be competitive in Formula F.
:-)
Seriously, though: if you like road racing, this was a terrific race to >>>> watch. Until the car running third pressed too hard on the final lap,
the first three had been running within 0.3s of each other. As the
eventual winner said, it was a chess match at 100mph.
The action starts at about 3 hours 30 minutes in:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FZqt65MeS8>
'If I had a single car team with an experienced driver I too would run a >>> Ford motor as I think ultimately they are quicker.'
That's a quote from Brian Graham of Brian Graham Racing, who was running >>> the car for William Ferguson, 5th place finisher at this year's Runoffs. >>>
<https://www.briangrahamracing.com>
'For more than two decades Brian has been mentoring and launching the
careers of a long list of young drivers, and with team alumni currently
racing in various professional series such as IndyCar and IMSA, the
quality of the program at BGR is second to none. The 2020 Indy 500 had
four of our alumni on the grid, along with representation over many
years at famous races such as the Rolex 24 Hours of Daytona and 12 Hours >>> of Sebring.'
But... ...what would HE know?
:-)
I only recently learned that—for some reason—Eternal September's usenet service no longer has post made via Google Groups.
But your claim was that I was winning because the Honda engine wasAnswered with deflections many times. Hondas win because they areAsked and answered... ...many times.Good for Jonathan. First Runoff win by a Kent in many years.Let's wait and see the race results tomorrow. I rememberSo Jonathan Allaer, in a Van Diemen RF00 Ford wins the 60th
someone telling me that you don't always run as hard as
you can in qualifying.
running of the SCCA Runoffs in Formula F.
He won by 51 THOUSANDS of a second.
But somehow, I know someone will find a way to claim that
this doesn't show a Ford can still be competitive in
Formula F.
:-)
Seriously, though: if you like road racing, this was a
terrific race to watch. Until the car running third pressed
too hard on the final lap, the first three had been running
within 0.3s of each other. As the eventual winner said, it
was a chess match at 100mph.
The action starts at about 3 hours 30 minutes in:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FZqt65MeS8>
Why?
better FF powerplants. You said so yourself. You bought one too.
FASTER ON THE TRACK.
Do you deny that, Lying Little Shit?
No, I don't deny it, my stats on your performance show that you
performed better with a Honda-engine car. Not that it has made any
difference lately. You have pretty much dropped out after McColl,
Floer and McKay returned to the fray.
BTW, I see that Google Groups posting is being discontinued as of
2/15/24. I'll not be moving to a new provider unless I can find a
free one.
On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 12:09:00 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2023-12-15 08:39, Thomas E. wrote:
You can't play it straight ever, can you? You claimed the HondaBut your claim was that I was winning because the Honda engineAnswered with deflections many times. Hondas win because theyAsked and answered... ...many times.Good for Jonathan. First Runoff win by a Kent in manyLet's wait and see the race results tomorrow. ISo Jonathan Allaer, in a Van Diemen RF00 Ford wins the
remember someone telling me that you don't always run
as hard as you can in qualifying.
60th running of the SCCA Runoffs in Formula F.
He won by 51 THOUSANDS of a second.
But somehow, I know someone will find a way to claim
that this doesn't show a Ford can still be competitive
in Formula F.
:-)
Seriously, though: if you like road racing, this was a
terrific race to watch. Until the car running third
pressed too hard on the final lap, the first three had
been running within 0.3s of each other. As the eventual
winner said, it was a chess match at 100mph.
The action starts at about 3 hours 30 minutes in:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FZqt65MeS8>
years. Why?
are better FF powerplants. You said so yourself. You bought
one too.
was FASTER ON THE TRACK.
Do you deny that, Lying Little Shit?
No, I don't deny it, my stats on your performance show that you
performed better with a Honda-engine car. Not that it has made
any difference lately. You have pretty much dropped out after
McColl, Floer and McKay returned to the fray.
was FASTER than the Kent, Little Shit, AND that that's the only
reason I was winning. Then I schooled you (over and over and over)
that the Honda wasn't inherently faster but that there were other
practical reasons for choosing to run a Honda rather than a Ford
engine.
And I "dropped out" this past year, because I had a hernia that
made prepping the car and running it for a race weekend
unfeasible.
And the record shows that Dave McKay racing head to head were
basically dead even. After a full season of racing, the score was
2018 to 199. Or less han 10% between us.
And McColl hasn't "returned to the fray", you nitwit.
He literally has not raced once in Formula F since 2021 and not at
all since 2022 when he raced in Formula Continental once.
BTW, I see that Google Groups posting is being discontinued asWow. You brag about how well you've organized your financial
of 2/15/24. I'll not be moving to a new provider unless I can
find a free one.
affairs...
...but a few bucks a month is going to stop you from posting.
Eternal September, Little Shit.
My point was that in 2021 Alan did come back (season champ too) and
you were out until the last weekend when he did not race. You did not
race against him. Very convenient.
OK, just for argument let's say the Honda engine had nothing to do
with your improved performance. Then it was the better car, not you,
that was responsible. You said so yourself, remember?
I can easily afford to pay for Usenet. Past experience with paying"I'll not be moving to a new provider unless I can find a free one."
via NewsAgent or something like that was not a great experience.
Missing posts, and short histories. Got one you would recommend?
My younger brother was diagnosed with cancer in early April of 2021,He literally has not raced once in Formula F since 2021 and not at
all since 2022 when he raced in Formula Continental once.
BTW, I see that Google Groups posting is being discontinued asWow. You brag about how well you've organized your financial
of 2/15/24. I'll not be moving to a new provider unless I can
find a free one.
affairs...
...but a few bucks a month is going to stop you from posting.
Eternal September, Little Shit.
My point was that in 2021 Alan did come back (season champ too) and
you were out until the last weekend when he did not race. You did not
race against him. Very convenient.
Little Shit. Esophageal cancer that had no symptoms until it was far FAR
too late to do anything about it.
So my life had a few other things to occupy it for pretty much the
entire racing season.
I signed up for the final race of the year just to keep myself "current"
for getting a racing license, and I don't sign up for races based on who
is going to be there.
What exactly did I say? I remember, but do you?
OK, just for argument let's say the Honda engine had nothing to do
with your improved performance. Then it was the better car, not you,
that was responsible. You said so yourself, remember?
"I'll not be moving to a new provider unless I can find a free one."
I can easily afford to pay for Usenet. Past experience with paying
via NewsAgent or something like that was not a great experience.
Missing posts, and short histories. Got one you would recommend?
As I recall you said the car was lighter and maybe another reason or two you bought it, like it had Honda power.
As for your record against Dave McKay. It took some time, but I calculate 2013-2023 you finished ahead in 13 of 51 races where you both started and finished. I excluded all DNS and DNF instances. By year:
Year Baker McKay
2022 0 0
2021 0 0
2020 0 0
2019 6 10
2018 3 4
2017 0 7
2016 0 4
2015 3 8
2014 1 3
2013 0 2
Totals 13 38
13/51*100%=25%
If you wish to dispute please supply numbers including year, months and race number. There are only OW races.
The last few years are not the only times you have not raced on a regular basis liarboy! Must be terrible to not have the resources to be in the fray on a regular basis. How much did your family contribute to the new #21?
On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 6:32:28 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
What a true piece of shit you are, Thomas Elam. On 2023-12-16
11:30, Thomas E. wrote:
Unacknowledged here...My younger brother was diagnosed with cancer in early April ofHe literally has not raced once in Formula F since 2021 and
not at all since 2022 when he raced in Formula Continental
once.
BTW, I see that Google Groups posting is beingWow. You brag about how well you've organized your
discontinued as of 2/15/24. I'll not be moving to a new
provider unless I can find a free one.
financial affairs...
...but a few bucks a month is going to stop you from
posting.
Eternal September, Little Shit.
My point was that in 2021 Alan did come back (season champ
too) and you were out until the last weekend when he did not
race. You did not race against him. Very convenient.
2021, Little Shit. Esophageal cancer that had no symptoms until
it was far FAR too late to do anything about it.
So my life had a few other things to occupy it for pretty much
the entire racing season.
...but you KNEW that...
...and instead chose to "forget" it and imagine that I avoided
coming out because Alan McColl came back.
And here we go again.I signed up for the final race of the year just to keep myself
"current" for getting a racing license, and I don't sign up for
races based on who is going to be there.
What exactly did I say? I remember, but do you?
OK, just for argument let's say the Honda engine had nothing
to do with your improved performance. Then it was the better
car, not you, that was responsible. You said so yourself,
remember?
"I'll not be moving to a new provider unless I can find a free
I can easily afford to pay for Usenet. Past experience with
paying via NewsAgent or something like that was not a great
experience. Missing posts, and short histories. Got one you
would recommend?
one."
As I recall you said the car was lighter and maybe another reason
or two you bought it, like it had Honda power.
Yes: it was lighter. The first car I bought was overweight due to
an extensive rebuild after a serious crash by the owner who first
brought it to Canada in 1990 or 1991. The "other reason or two" is
you inventing more shit out of the whole cloth aside from me
commenting that I wanted a car where spare parts were more easily
obtained.
As for the Honda, this is you once again trying to insinuate that
it somehow made me faster on the track.
There's nothing that needs to be disputed, you lying sack of shit.
As for your record against Dave McKay. It took some time, but I
calculate 2013-2023 you finished ahead in 13 of 51 races where
you both started and finished. I excluded all DNS and DNF
instances. By year:
Year Baker McKay 2022 0 0 2021 0 0 2020 0 0 2019 6 10 2018 3 4
2017 0 7 2016 0 4 2015 3 8 2014 1 3 2013 0 2
Totals 13 38 13/51*100%=25%
If you wish to dispute please supply numbers including year,
months and race number. There are only OW races.
I started racing in 2013. It's hardly surprising that I wouldn't
be finishing ahead of someone with much more experience.
But just for the record, in 2019, when both of us finished, the
results were 10 for Dave to 5 times for me, so you can't even get
it right when you're trying to denigrate me. But you want to class
me as some kind of "also-ran" where you happily declare Dave
"elite".
Well in those meetings, in sessions where we both set a time:
I out-qualified Dave 10 times of of 14.
I had the faster race lap in 12 of the 15 races we both finished.
So, yes: Dave beat me fair and square over the season, but even he
will admit that if I hadn't been taken out by a driver trying a
suicide dive bomb on the second weekend of the year, the results
could very well have gone the other way.
Where, other than your fevered imagination, do you get the idea my
The last few years are not the only times you have not raced on a
regular basis liarboy! Must be terrible to not have the resources
to be in the fray on a regular basis. How much did your family
contribute to the new #21?
family as contributed anything to either of my racing car
purchases, you lying sack of shit?
Right, I counted one of Dave's DNS as a win for you. So it was 5 out
of 16, 32% for you and 68% for Dave. Not much better than your
overall record and not much better than 2014-2015. Apparently, years
of experience did not do much for you. There is an old saying, when
deep in a hole maybe you better stop digging.
Yes, that is your pattern of lies. Cherry pick data to make yourself
look good, leaving out anything that makes you look bad. Like 2016
and 2017. Like trying to turn one fast lap and bragging it into the equivalent of a championship season. How do we know if 2019 was an
off year for Dave or not? We don't. Floer did not race in 2019, so no
other benchmark.
Then too there is your long-standing tactic of branding anyone who
disagrees as a liar.
On Sunday, December 17, 2023 at 1:40:59 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2023-12-16 17:09, Thomas Elam wrote:
On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 6:32:28 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:Step up, Liarboy. Admit the truth.
What a true piece of shit you are, Thomas Elam. On 2023-12-16
11:30, Thomas E. wrote:
Unacknowledged here...My younger brother was diagnosed with cancer in early AprilHe literally has not raced once in Formula F since 2021
and not at all since 2022 when he raced in Formula
Continental once.
BTW, I see that Google Groups posting is beingWow. You brag about how well you've organized your
discontinued as of 2/15/24. I'll not be moving to a
new provider unless I can find a free one.
financial affairs...
...but a few bucks a month is going to stop you from
posting.
Eternal September, Little Shit.
My point was that in 2021 Alan did come back (season
champ too) and you were out until the last weekend when
he did not race. You did not race against him. Very
convenient.
of 2021, Little Shit. Esophageal cancer that had no
symptoms until it was far FAR too late to do anything about
it.
So my life had a few other things to occupy it for pretty
much the entire racing season.
...but you KNEW that...
...and instead chose to "forget" it and imagine that I avoided
coming out because Alan McColl came back.
No response? Shocking.And here we go again.I signed up for the final race of the year just to keep
myself "current" for getting a racing license, and I don't
sign up for races based on who is going to be there.
What exactly did I say? I remember, but do you?
OK, just for argument let's say the Honda engine had
nothing to do with your improved performance. Then it was
the better car, not you, that was responsible. You said
so yourself, remember?
"I'll not be moving to a new provider unless I can find a
I can easily afford to pay for Usenet. Past experience
with paying via NewsAgent or something like that was not
a great experience. Missing posts, and short histories.
Got one you would recommend?
free one."
As I recall you said the car was lighter and maybe another
reason or two you bought it, like it had Honda power.
Yes: it was lighter. The first car I bought was overweight due
to an extensive rebuild after a serious crash by the owner who
first brought it to Canada in 1990 or 1991. The "other reason
or two" is you inventing more shit out of the whole cloth aside
from me commenting that I wanted a car where spare parts were
more easily obtained.
As for the Honda, this is you once again trying to insinuate
that it somehow made me faster on the track.
Couldn't address this, huh?There's nothing that needs to be disputed, you lying sack of
As for your record against Dave McKay. It took some time, but
I calculate 2013-2023 you finished ahead in 13 of 51 races
where you both started and finished. I excluded all DNS and
DNF instances. By year:
Year Baker McKay 2022 0 0 2021 0 0 2020 0 0 2019 6 10 2018 3
4 2017 0 7 2016 0 4 2015 3 8 2014 1 3 2013 0 2
Totals 13 38 13/51*100%=25%
If you wish to dispute please supply numbers including year,
months and race number. There are only OW races.
shit.
I started racing in 2013. It's hardly surprising that I
wouldn't be finishing ahead of someone with much more
experience.
But just for the record, in 2019, when both of us finished,
the results were 10 for Dave to 5 times for me, so you can't
even get it right when you're trying to denigrate me. But you
want to class me as some kind of "also-ran" where you happily
declare Dave "elite".
Well in those meetings, in sessions where we both set a time:
I out-qualified Dave 10 times of of 14.
I had the faster race lap in 12 of the 15 races we both
finished.
You lack any integrity.
So, yes: Dave beat me fair and square over the season, but even
he will admit that if I hadn't been taken out by a driver
trying a suicide dive bomb on the second weekend of the year,
the results could very well have gone the other way.
Where, other than your fevered imagination, do you get the idea
The last few years are not the only times you have not raced
on a regular basis liarboy! Must be terrible to not have the
resources to be in the fray on a regular basis. How much did
your family contribute to the new #21?
my family as contributed anything to either of my racing car
purchases, you lying sack of shit?
Darren Grandbois (the previous year's Formula Vee champion) raced
Right, I counted one of Dave's DNS as a win for you. So it was 5
out of 16, 32% for you and 68% for Dave. Not much better than
your overall record and not much better than 2014-2015.
Apparently, years of experience did not do much for you. There is
an old saying, when deep in a hole maybe you better stop
digging.
Yes, that is your pattern of lies. Cherry pick data to make
yourself look good, leaving out anything that makes you look bad.
Like 2016 and 2017. Like trying to turn one fast lap and bragging
it into the equivalent of a championship season. How do we know
if 2019 was an off year for Dave or not? We don't. Floer did not
race in 2019, so no other benchmark.
in an even more modern FF than mine...
...and in the 5 races where we both finished, he finished behind
me every time.
Well, well, in 6 hours you accuse of not answering.
BTW, I did a little figuring, and it's hilarious that you can't see
how even Dave and I actually were.
There were 14 races Dave and I both completed, totalling 211 laps.
In 5 of those races, the difference in our finishing times was less
than a second; 4 of them less than half a second.
The aggregate difference in our finishes was a total of 41.366
seconds, or 0.196 seconds per lap...
...in my favour.
Then too there is your long-standing tactic of branding anyoneI brand liars "liar", Liarboy.
who disagrees as a liar.
You worked to earn that.
It's one thing to
run fast laps, it's another to come in ahead of other drivers. What
you just proved is that you can run faster laps than McKay, but the
results say that he finishes ahead of you 75% of the time.
That
PROVES that Dave is the better RACE driver.
I am not accepting your
cherry-picked data.
But, I am willing to admit that McKay is not the
same standard as Floer and McColl. So, I am demoting McKay to the top
of the second tier and you are now #2 second best tier driver.
On Sunday, December 17, 2023 at 9:44:27 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2023-12-17 16:38, Thomas E. wrote:LOL. Fast laps and qualifying positions don't win races or championship points. IF you race next year AND beat Floer or McColl on a regular basis you will join that elite group. I'll send you an email.
On Sunday, December 17, 2023 at 1:40:59 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:What a pissant you are.
On 2023-12-16 17:09, Thomas Elam wrote:
On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 6:32:28 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:Step up, Liarboy. Admit the truth.
What a true piece of shit you are, Thomas Elam. On 2023-12-16
11:30, Thomas E. wrote:
Unacknowledged here...My younger brother was diagnosed with cancer in early AprilHe literally has not raced once in Formula F since 2021
and not at all since 2022 when he raced in Formula
Continental once.
BTW, I see that Google Groups posting is beingWow. You brag about how well you've organized your
discontinued as of 2/15/24. I'll not be moving to a
new provider unless I can find a free one.
financial affairs...
...but a few bucks a month is going to stop you from
posting.
Eternal September, Little Shit.
My point was that in 2021 Alan did come back (season
champ too) and you were out until the last weekend when
he did not race. You did not race against him. Very
convenient.
of 2021, Little Shit. Esophageal cancer that had no
symptoms until it was far FAR too late to do anything about
it.
So my life had a few other things to occupy it for pretty
much the entire racing season.
...but you KNEW that...
...and instead chose to "forget" it and imagine that I avoided
coming out because Alan McColl came back.
No balls.No response? Shocking.And here we go again.I signed up for the final race of the year just to keep
myself "current" for getting a racing license, and I don't
sign up for races based on who is going to be there.
What exactly did I say? I remember, but do you?
OK, just for argument let's say the Honda engine had
nothing to do with your improved performance. Then it was
the better car, not you, that was responsible. You said
so yourself, remember?
"I'll not be moving to a new provider unless I can find a
I can easily afford to pay for Usenet. Past experience
with paying via NewsAgent or something like that was not
a great experience. Missing posts, and short histories.
Got one you would recommend?
free one."
As I recall you said the car was lighter and maybe another
reason or two you bought it, like it had Honda power.
Yes: it was lighter. The first car I bought was overweight due
to an extensive rebuild after a serious crash by the owner who
first brought it to Canada in 1990 or 1991. The "other reason
or two" is you inventing more shit out of the whole cloth aside
from me commenting that I wanted a car where spare parts were
more easily obtained.
As for the Honda, this is you once again trying to insinuate
that it somehow made me faster on the track.
None at all.Couldn't address this, huh?There's nothing that needs to be disputed, you lying sack of
As for your record against Dave McKay. It took some time, but
I calculate 2013-2023 you finished ahead in 13 of 51 races
where you both started and finished. I excluded all DNS and
DNF instances. By year:
Year Baker McKay 2022 0 0 2021 0 0 2020 0 0 2019 6 10 2018 3
4 2017 0 7 2016 0 4 2015 3 8 2014 1 3 2013 0 2
Totals 13 38 13/51*100%=25%
If you wish to dispute please supply numbers including year,
months and race number. There are only OW races.
shit.
I started racing in 2013. It's hardly surprising that I
wouldn't be finishing ahead of someone with much more
experience.
But just for the record, in 2019, when both of us finished,
the results were 10 for Dave to 5 times for me, so you can't
even get it right when you're trying to denigrate me. But you
want to class me as some kind of "also-ran" where you happily
declare Dave "elite".
Well in those meetings, in sessions where we both set a time:
I out-qualified Dave 10 times of of 14.
I had the faster race lap in 12 of the 15 races we both
finished.
You lack any integrity.
Oh, I forgot this little bit of weasel bullshit.
So, yes: Dave beat me fair and square over the season, but even
he will admit that if I hadn't been taken out by a driver
trying a suicide dive bomb on the second weekend of the year,
the results could very well have gone the other way.
Where, other than your fevered imagination, do you get the idea
The last few years are not the only times you have not raced
on a regular basis liarboy! Must be terrible to not have the
resources to be in the fray on a regular basis. How much did
your family contribute to the new #21?
my family as contributed anything to either of my racing car
purchases, you lying sack of shit?
Have you got anything to back up your insinuations, pissant?
Didn't address this either.Darren Grandbois (the previous year's Formula Vee champion) raced
Right, I counted one of Dave's DNS as a win for you. So it was 5
out of 16, 32% for you and 68% for Dave. Not much better than
your overall record and not much better than 2014-2015.
Apparently, years of experience did not do much for you. There is
an old saying, when deep in a hole maybe you better stop
digging.
Yes, that is your pattern of lies. Cherry pick data to make
yourself look good, leaving out anything that makes you look bad.
Like 2016 and 2017. Like trying to turn one fast lap and bragging
it into the equivalent of a championship season. How do we know
if 2019 was an off year for Dave or not? We don't. Floer did not
race in 2019, so no other benchmark.
in an even more modern FF than mine...
...and in the 5 races where we both finished, he finished behind
me every time.
What the hell does that even mean, Liarboy?Well, well, in 6 hours you accuse of not answering.
BTW, I did a little figuring, and it's hilarious that you can't see
how even Dave and I actually were.
There were 14 races Dave and I both completed, totalling 211 laps.
In 5 of those races, the difference in our finishing times was less
than a second; 4 of them less than half a second.
The aggregate difference in our finishes was a total of 41.366
seconds, or 0.196 seconds per lap...
...in my favour.
Then too there is your long-standing tactic of branding anyoneI brand liars "liar", Liarboy.
who disagrees as a liar.
You worked to earn that.
It's one thing toYour own argument is that it was 68%, Liarboy...
run fast laps, it's another to come in ahead of other drivers. What
you just proved is that you can run faster laps than McKay, but the
results say that he finishes ahead of you 75% of the time.
...but the actual number was 9 times he finished ahead of when we both
finished (I had a DNF on July 28 you miscounted) and 5 times when I
finished ahead of him. 9/14 is 64%.
ThatI never said he wasn't, Liarboy. But when we're both winning races
PROVES that Dave is the better RACE driver.
against each other and on balance I was farther ahead (and on the same
track under the same conditions, my best lap was a full 0.7
seconds--almost 1%——better than his), it does suggest parity to anyone >> without an ax to grind.
I am not accepting yourLook it up yourself:
cherry-picked data.
<https://speedhive.mylaps.com>
But, I am willing to admit that McKay is not theBut you've been insisting he's top tier.
same standard as Floer and McColl. So, I am demoting McKay to the top
of the second tier and you are now #2 second best tier driver.
And until you realized that I regularly beat Olov, you were insisting HE
was top tier, too.
Weird, huh?
If I beat Doug next year, will he become "second tier" too?
But this has always been about your bullshit, uniformed, ignorant claim
that I'm not any good at all. Must I go back and provide the quotes,
asshole?
:-)
Why does what I think even matter to you anyway?
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