• OT: Didn't someone try to tells that Ford couldn't be competitive in Fo

    From Alan@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 09:53:40 2023
    Someone needs to tell Nolan Allaer:

    <https://cdn.connectsites.net/user_files/scca/downloads/000/069/593/FF%20Runoffs2023%20Grid%20Official.pdf?1695931384>

    Not just fastest...

    ...but fastest by more than 6 tenths of a second...

    ...over one of the best young drivers (Jonathan Kotyk, winner of the 4
    of the last 5 SCCA Runoffs.

    But a self-appointed "expert" told us that Fords couldn't possibly be competitive, so this must just be some sort of mass illusion...

    ..right?

    :-)

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  • From Thomas E.@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Sep 30 16:00:24 2023
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:53:44 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    Someone needs to tell Nolan Allaer:

    <https://cdn.connectsites.net/user_files/scca/downloads/000/069/593/FF%20Runoffs2023%20Grid%20Official.pdf?1695931384>

    Not just fastest...

    ...but fastest by more than 6 tenths of a second...

    ...over one of the best young drivers (Jonathan Kotyk, winner of the 4
    of the last 5 SCCA Runoffs.

    But a self-appointed "expert" told us that Fords couldn't possibly be competitive, so this must just be some sort of mass illusion...

    ..right?

    :-)

    Let's wait and see the race results tomorrow. I remember someone telling me that you don't always run as hard as you can in qualifying.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Thomas E. on Sat Sep 30 16:12:47 2023
    On 2023-09-30 16:00, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:53:44 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    Someone needs to tell Nolan Allaer:

    <https://cdn.connectsites.net/user_files/scca/downloads/000/069/593/FF%20Runoffs2023%20Grid%20Official.pdf?1695931384>



    Not just fastest...

    ...but fastest by more than 6 tenths of a second...

    ...over one of the best young drivers (Jonathan Kotyk, winner of
    the 4 of the last 5 SCCA Runoffs.

    But a self-appointed "expert" told us that Fords couldn't possibly
    be competitive, so this must just be some sort of mass illusion...

    ..right?

    :-)

    Let's wait and see the race results tomorrow. I remember someone
    telling me that you don't always run as hard as you can in
    qualifying.


    Really?

    Who was that?

    Got a quote?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Thomas E. on Sun Oct 1 11:48:23 2023
    On 2023-09-30 16:00, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:53:44 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    Someone needs to tell Nolan Allaer:

    <https://cdn.connectsites.net/user_files/scca/downloads/000/069/593/FF%20Runoffs2023%20Grid%20Official.pdf?1695931384>



    Not just fastest...

    ...but fastest by more than 6 tenths of a second...

    ...over one of the best young drivers (Jonathan Kotyk, winner of
    the 4 of the last 5 SCCA Runoffs.

    But a self-appointed "expert" told us that Fords couldn't possibly
    be competitive, so this must just be some sort of mass illusion...

    ..right?

    :-)

    Let's wait and see the race results tomorrow. I remember someone
    telling me that you don't always run as hard as you can in
    qualifying.

    So Jonathan Allaer, in a Van Diemen RF00 Ford wins the 60th running of
    the SCCA Runoffs in Formula F.

    He won by 51 THOUSANDS of a second.

    But somehow, I know someone will find a way to claim that this doesn't
    show a Ford can still be competitive in Formula F.

    :-)

    Seriously, though: if you like road racing, this was a terrific race to
    watch. Until the car running third pressed too hard on the final lap,
    the first three had been running within 0.3s of each other. As the
    eventual winner said, it was a chess match at 100mph.

    The action starts at about 3 hours 30 minutes in:

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FZqt65MeS8>

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Oct 2 15:45:14 2023
    On 2023-10-01 11:48, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-30 16:00, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:53:44 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    Someone needs to tell Nolan Allaer:

    <https://cdn.connectsites.net/user_files/scca/downloads/000/069/593/FF%20Runoffs2023%20Grid%20Official.pdf?1695931384>



    Not just fastest...

    ...but fastest by more than 6 tenths of a second...

    ...over one of the best young drivers (Jonathan Kotyk, winner of
    the 4 of the last 5 SCCA Runoffs.

    But a self-appointed "expert" told us that Fords couldn't possibly
    be competitive, so this must just be some sort of mass illusion...

    ..right?

    :-)

    Let's wait and see the race results tomorrow. I remember someone
    telling me that you don't always run as hard as you can in
    qualifying.

    So Jonathan Allaer, in a Van Diemen RF00 Ford wins the 60th running of
    the SCCA Runoffs in Formula F.

    He won by 51 THOUSANDS of a second.

    But somehow, I know someone will find a way to claim that this doesn't
    show a Ford can still be competitive in Formula F.

    :-)

    Seriously, though: if you like road racing, this was a terrific race to watch. Until the car running third pressed too hard on the final lap,
    the first three had been running within 0.3s of each other. As the
    eventual winner said, it was a chess match at 100mph.

    The action starts at about 3 hours 30 minutes in:

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FZqt65MeS8>

    Just a little update for our resident "expert" on Formula F:

    'If I had a single car team with an experienced driver I too would run a
    Ford motor as I think ultimately they are quicker.'

    That's a quote from Brian Graham of Brian Graham Racing, who was running
    the car for William Ferguson, 5th place finisher at this year's Runoffs.

    <https://www.briangrahamracing.com>

    'For more than two decades Brian has been mentoring and launching the
    careers of a long list of young drivers, and with team alumni currently
    racing in various professional series such as IndyCar and IMSA, the
    quality of the program at BGR is second to none. The 2020 Indy 500 had
    four of our alumni on the grid, along with representation over many
    years at famous races such as the Rolex 24 Hours of Daytona and 12 Hours
    of Sebring.'

    But... ...what would HE know?

    :-)

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  • From Thomas E.@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Oct 7 08:33:35 2023
    On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 2:48:26 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-30 16:00, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:53:44 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    Someone needs to tell Nolan Allaer:

    <https://cdn.connectsites.net/user_files/scca/downloads/000/069/593/FF%20Runoffs2023%20Grid%20Official.pdf?1695931384>



    Not just fastest...

    ...but fastest by more than 6 tenths of a second...

    ...over one of the best young drivers (Jonathan Kotyk, winner of
    the 4 of the last 5 SCCA Runoffs.

    But a self-appointed "expert" told us that Fords couldn't possibly
    be competitive, so this must just be some sort of mass illusion...

    ..right?

    :-)

    Let's wait and see the race results tomorrow. I remember someone
    telling me that you don't always run as hard as you can in
    qualifying.
    So Jonathan Allaer, in a Van Diemen RF00 Ford wins the 60th running of
    the SCCA Runoffs in Formula F.

    He won by 51 THOUSANDS of a second.

    But somehow, I know someone will find a way to claim that this doesn't
    show a Ford can still be competitive in Formula F.

    :-)

    Seriously, though: if you like road racing, this was a terrific race to watch. Until the car running third pressed too hard on the final lap,
    the first three had been running within 0.3s of each other. As the
    eventual winner said, it was a chess match at 100mph.

    The action starts at about 3 hours 30 minutes in:

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FZqt65MeS8>

    Good for Jonathan. First Runoff win by a Kent in many years. Why?

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  • From Thomas E.@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Oct 7 08:32:02 2023
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 6:45:18 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-10-01 11:48, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-30 16:00, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:53:44 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    Someone needs to tell Nolan Allaer:

    <https://cdn.connectsites.net/user_files/scca/downloads/000/069/593/FF%20Runoffs2023%20Grid%20Official.pdf?1695931384>



    Not just fastest...

    ...but fastest by more than 6 tenths of a second...

    ...over one of the best young drivers (Jonathan Kotyk, winner of
    the 4 of the last 5 SCCA Runoffs.

    But a self-appointed "expert" told us that Fords couldn't possibly
    be competitive, so this must just be some sort of mass illusion...

    ..right?

    :-)

    Let's wait and see the race results tomorrow. I remember someone
    telling me that you don't always run as hard as you can in
    qualifying.

    So Jonathan Allaer, in a Van Diemen RF00 Ford wins the 60th running of
    the SCCA Runoffs in Formula F.

    He won by 51 THOUSANDS of a second.

    But somehow, I know someone will find a way to claim that this doesn't show a Ford can still be competitive in Formula F.

    :-)

    Seriously, though: if you like road racing, this was a terrific race to watch. Until the car running third pressed too hard on the final lap,
    the first three had been running within 0.3s of each other. As the eventual winner said, it was a chess match at 100mph.

    The action starts at about 3 hours 30 minutes in:

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FZqt65MeS8>
    Just a little update for our resident "expert" on Formula F:

    'If I had a single car team with an experienced driver I too would run a Ford motor as I think ultimately they are quicker.'

    That's a quote from Brian Graham of Brian Graham Racing, who was running
    the car for William Ferguson, 5th place finisher at this year's Runoffs.

    <https://www.briangrahamracing.com>

    'For more than two decades Brian has been mentoring and launching the careers of a long list of young drivers, and with team alumni currently racing in various professional series such as IndyCar and IMSA, the
    quality of the program at BGR is second to none. The 2020 Indy 500 had
    four of our alumni on the grid, along with representation over many
    years at famous races such as the Rolex 24 Hours of Daytona and 12 Hours
    of Sebring.'

    But... ...what would HE know?

    :-)

    Which explains why so few Kents run in top level events how?

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  • From Thomas E.@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun Oct 15 05:38:51 2023
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 6:45:18 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-10-01 11:48, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-30 16:00, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:53:44 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    Someone needs to tell Nolan Allaer:

    <https://cdn.connectsites.net/user_files/scca/downloads/000/069/593/FF%20Runoffs2023%20Grid%20Official.pdf?1695931384>



    Not just fastest...

    ...but fastest by more than 6 tenths of a second...

    ...over one of the best young drivers (Jonathan Kotyk, winner of
    the 4 of the last 5 SCCA Runoffs.

    But a self-appointed "expert" told us that Fords couldn't possibly
    be competitive, so this must just be some sort of mass illusion...

    ..right?

    :-)

    Let's wait and see the race results tomorrow. I remember someone
    telling me that you don't always run as hard as you can in
    qualifying.

    So Jonathan Allaer, in a Van Diemen RF00 Ford wins the 60th running of
    the SCCA Runoffs in Formula F.

    He won by 51 THOUSANDS of a second.

    But somehow, I know someone will find a way to claim that this doesn't show a Ford can still be competitive in Formula F.

    :-)

    Seriously, though: if you like road racing, this was a terrific race to watch. Until the car running third pressed too hard on the final lap,
    the first three had been running within 0.3s of each other. As the eventual winner said, it was a chess match at 100mph.

    The action starts at about 3 hours 30 minutes in:

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FZqt65MeS8>
    Just a little update for our resident "expert" on Formula F:

    'If I had a single car team with an experienced driver I too would run a Ford motor as I think ultimately they are quicker.'

    That's a quote from Brian Graham of Brian Graham Racing, who was running
    the car for William Ferguson, 5th place finisher at this year's Runoffs.

    <https://www.briangrahamracing.com>

    'For more than two decades Brian has been mentoring and launching the careers of a long list of young drivers, and with team alumni currently racing in various professional series such as IndyCar and IMSA, the
    quality of the program at BGR is second to none. The 2020 Indy 500 had
    four of our alumni on the grid, along with representation over many
    years at famous races such as the Rolex 24 Hours of Daytona and 12 Hours
    of Sebring.'

    But... ...what would HE know?

    :-)
    No reply to my October 7 question?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Alan Baker on Thu Dec 7 15:20:30 2023
    On 2023-12-07 14:30, Alan Baker wrote:
    On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 5:38:53 AM UTC-7, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 6:45:18 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-10-01 11:48, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-30 16:00, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:53:44 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    Someone needs to tell Nolan Allaer:

    <https://cdn.connectsites.net/user_files/scca/downloads/000/069/593/FF%20Runoffs2023%20Grid%20Official.pdf?1695931384>



    Not just fastest...

    ...but fastest by more than 6 tenths of a second...

    ...over one of the best young drivers (Jonathan Kotyk, winner of
    the 4 of the last 5 SCCA Runoffs.

    But a self-appointed "expert" told us that Fords couldn't possibly >>>>>> be competitive, so this must just be some sort of mass illusion... >>>>>>
    ..right?

    :-)

    Let's wait and see the race results tomorrow. I remember someone
    telling me that you don't always run as hard as you can in
    qualifying.

    So Jonathan Allaer, in a Van Diemen RF00 Ford wins the 60th running of >>>> the SCCA Runoffs in Formula F.

    He won by 51 THOUSANDS of a second.

    But somehow, I know someone will find a way to claim that this doesn't >>>> show a Ford can still be competitive in Formula F.

    :-)

    Seriously, though: if you like road racing, this was a terrific race to >>>> watch. Until the car running third pressed too hard on the final lap,
    the first three had been running within 0.3s of each other. As the
    eventual winner said, it was a chess match at 100mph.

    The action starts at about 3 hours 30 minutes in:

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FZqt65MeS8>
    Just a little update for our resident "expert" on Formula F:

    'If I had a single car team with an experienced driver I too would run a >>> Ford motor as I think ultimately they are quicker.'

    That's a quote from Brian Graham of Brian Graham Racing, who was running >>> the car for William Ferguson, 5th place finisher at this year's Runoffs. >>>
    <https://www.briangrahamracing.com>

    'For more than two decades Brian has been mentoring and launching the
    careers of a long list of young drivers, and with team alumni currently
    racing in various professional series such as IndyCar and IMSA, the
    quality of the program at BGR is second to none. The 2020 Indy 500 had
    four of our alumni on the grid, along with representation over many
    years at famous races such as the Rolex 24 Hours of Daytona and 12 Hours >>> of Sebring.'

    But... ...what would HE know?

    :-)
    No reply to my October 7 question?

    I only recently learned that—for some reason—Eternal September's usenet service no longer has post made via Google Groups.

    And it's apparently more complex than just a simple block of Google
    Groups posts... ...because my own posts came through.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Thomas E. on Fri Dec 15 09:08:56 2023
    On 2023-12-15 08:39, Thomas E. wrote:

    Let's wait and see the race results tomorrow. I remember
    someone telling me that you don't always run as hard as
    you can in qualifying.
    So Jonathan Allaer, in a Van Diemen RF00 Ford wins the 60th
    running of the SCCA Runoffs in Formula F.

    He won by 51 THOUSANDS of a second.

    But somehow, I know someone will find a way to claim that
    this doesn't show a Ford can still be competitive in
    Formula F.

    :-)

    Seriously, though: if you like road racing, this was a
    terrific race to watch. Until the car running third pressed
    too hard on the final lap, the first three had been running
    within 0.3s of each other. As the eventual winner said, it
    was a chess match at 100mph.

    The action starts at about 3 hours 30 minutes in:

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FZqt65MeS8>
    Good for Jonathan. First Runoff win by a Kent in many years.
    Why?
    Asked and answered... ...many times.
    Answered with deflections many times. Hondas win because they are
    better FF powerplants. You said so yourself. You bought one too.
    But your claim was that I was winning because the Honda engine was
    FASTER ON THE TRACK.

    Do you deny that, Lying Little Shit?

    No, I don't deny it, my stats on your performance show that you
    performed better with a Honda-engine car. Not that it has made any
    difference lately. You have pretty much dropped out after McColl,
    Floer and McKay returned to the fray.


    You can't play it straight ever, can you? You claimed the Honda was
    FASTER than the Kent, Little Shit, AND that that's the only reason I was winning. Then I schooled you (over and over and over) that the Honda
    wasn't inherently faster but that there were other practical reasons for choosing to run a Honda rather than a Ford engine.

    And I "dropped out" this past year, because I had a hernia that made
    prepping the car and running it for a race weekend unfeasible.

    And the record shows that Dave McKay racing head to head were basically
    dead even. After a full season of racing, the score was 2018 to 199. Or
    less han 10% between us.

    And McColl hasn't "returned to the fray", you nitwit.

    He literally has not raced once in Formula F since 2021 and not at all
    since 2022 when he raced in Formula Continental once.

    BTW, I see that Google Groups posting is being discontinued as of
    2/15/24. I'll not be moving to a new provider unless I can find a
    free one.

    Wow. You brag about how well you've organized your financial affairs...

    ...but a few bucks a month is going to stop you from posting.

    Eternal September, Little Shit.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Thomas E. on Sat Dec 16 11:01:32 2023
    On 2023-12-16 05:42, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 12:09:00 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-12-15 08:39, Thomas E. wrote:

    Let's wait and see the race results tomorrow. I
    remember someone telling me that you don't always run
    as hard as you can in qualifying.
    So Jonathan Allaer, in a Van Diemen RF00 Ford wins the
    60th running of the SCCA Runoffs in Formula F.

    He won by 51 THOUSANDS of a second.

    But somehow, I know someone will find a way to claim
    that this doesn't show a Ford can still be competitive
    in Formula F.

    :-)

    Seriously, though: if you like road racing, this was a
    terrific race to watch. Until the car running third
    pressed too hard on the final lap, the first three had
    been running within 0.3s of each other. As the eventual
    winner said, it was a chess match at 100mph.

    The action starts at about 3 hours 30 minutes in:

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FZqt65MeS8>
    Good for Jonathan. First Runoff win by a Kent in many
    years. Why?
    Asked and answered... ...many times.
    Answered with deflections many times. Hondas win because they
    are better FF powerplants. You said so yourself. You bought
    one too.
    But your claim was that I was winning because the Honda engine
    was FASTER ON THE TRACK.

    Do you deny that, Lying Little Shit?

    No, I don't deny it, my stats on your performance show that you
    performed better with a Honda-engine car. Not that it has made
    any difference lately. You have pretty much dropped out after
    McColl, Floer and McKay returned to the fray.
    You can't play it straight ever, can you? You claimed the Honda
    was FASTER than the Kent, Little Shit, AND that that's the only
    reason I was winning. Then I schooled you (over and over and over)
    that the Honda wasn't inherently faster but that there were other
    practical reasons for choosing to run a Honda rather than a Ford
    engine.

    And I "dropped out" this past year, because I had a hernia that
    made prepping the car and running it for a race weekend
    unfeasible.

    And the record shows that Dave McKay racing head to head were
    basically dead even. After a full season of racing, the score was
    2018 to 199. Or less han 10% between us.

    And McColl hasn't "returned to the fray", you nitwit.

    He literally has not raced once in Formula F since 2021 and not at
    all since 2022 when he raced in Formula Continental once.
    BTW, I see that Google Groups posting is being discontinued as
    of 2/15/24. I'll not be moving to a new provider unless I can
    find a free one.
    Wow. You brag about how well you've organized your financial
    affairs...

    ...but a few bucks a month is going to stop you from posting.

    Eternal September, Little Shit.

    My point was that in 2021 Alan did come back (season champ too) and
    you were out until the last weekend when he did not race. You did not
    race against him. Very convenient.

    My younger brother was diagnosed with cancer in early April of 2021,
    Little Shit. Esophageal cancer that had no symptoms until it was far FAR
    too late to do anything about it.

    So my life had a few other things to occupy it for pretty much the
    entire racing season.

    I signed up for the final race of the year just to keep myself "current"
    for getting a racing license, and I don't sign up for races based on who
    is going to be there.


    OK, just for argument let's say the Honda engine had nothing to do
    with your improved performance. Then it was the better car, not you,
    that was responsible. You said so yourself, remember?

    What exactly did I say? I remember, but do you?


    I can easily afford to pay for Usenet. Past experience with paying
    via NewsAgent or something like that was not a great experience.
    Missing posts, and short histories. Got one you would recommend?
    "I'll not be moving to a new provider unless I can find a free one."

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Thomas E. on Sat Dec 16 15:32:23 2023
    What a true piece of shit you are, Thomas Elam.

    On 2023-12-16 11:30, Thomas E. wrote:
    He literally has not raced once in Formula F since 2021 and not at
    all since 2022 when he raced in Formula Continental once.
    BTW, I see that Google Groups posting is being discontinued as
    of 2/15/24. I'll not be moving to a new provider unless I can
    find a free one.
    Wow. You brag about how well you've organized your financial
    affairs...

    ...but a few bucks a month is going to stop you from posting.

    Eternal September, Little Shit.

    My point was that in 2021 Alan did come back (season champ too) and
    you were out until the last weekend when he did not race. You did not
    race against him. Very convenient.
    My younger brother was diagnosed with cancer in early April of 2021,
    Little Shit. Esophageal cancer that had no symptoms until it was far FAR
    too late to do anything about it.

    So my life had a few other things to occupy it for pretty much the
    entire racing season.

    Unacknowledged here...

    ...but you KNEW that...

    ...and instead chose to "forget" it and imagine that I avoided coming
    out because Alan McColl came back.


    I signed up for the final race of the year just to keep myself "current"
    for getting a racing license, and I don't sign up for races based on who
    is going to be there.

    OK, just for argument let's say the Honda engine had nothing to do
    with your improved performance. Then it was the better car, not you,
    that was responsible. You said so yourself, remember?
    What exactly did I say? I remember, but do you?

    I can easily afford to pay for Usenet. Past experience with paying
    via NewsAgent or something like that was not a great experience.
    Missing posts, and short histories. Got one you would recommend?
    "I'll not be moving to a new provider unless I can find a free one."

    As I recall you said the car was lighter and maybe another reason or two you bought it, like it had Honda power.

    And here we go again.

    Yes: it was lighter. The first car I bought was overweight due to an
    extensive rebuild after a serious crash by the owner who first brought
    it to Canada in 1990 or 1991. The "other reason or two" is you inventing
    more shit out of the whole cloth aside from me commenting that I wanted
    a car where spare parts were more easily obtained.

    As for the Honda, this is you once again trying to insinuate that it
    somehow made me faster on the track.


    As for your record against Dave McKay. It took some time, but I calculate 2013-2023 you finished ahead in 13 of 51 races where you both started and finished. I excluded all DNS and DNF instances. By year:

    Year Baker McKay
    2022 0 0
    2021 0 0
    2020 0 0
    2019 6 10
    2018 3 4
    2017 0 7
    2016 0 4
    2015 3 8
    2014 1 3
    2013 0 2

    Totals 13 38
    13/51*100%=25%

    If you wish to dispute please supply numbers including year, months and race number. There are only OW races.

    There's nothing that needs to be disputed, you lying sack of shit.

    I started racing in 2013. It's hardly surprising that I wouldn't be
    finishing ahead of someone with much more experience.

    But just for the record, in 2019, when both of us finished, the results
    were 10 for Dave to 5 times for me, so you can't even get it right when
    you're trying to denigrate me. But you want to class me as some kind of "also-ran" where you happily declare Dave "elite".

    Well in those meetings, in sessions where we both set a time:

    I out-qualified Dave 10 times of of 14.

    I had the faster race lap in 12 of the 15 races we both finished.

    So, yes: Dave beat me fair and square over the season, but even he will
    admit that if I hadn't been taken out by a driver trying a suicide dive
    bomb on the second weekend of the year, the results could very well have
    gone the other way.



    The last few years are not the only times you have not raced on a regular basis liarboy! Must be terrible to not have the resources to be in the fray on a regular basis. How much did your family contribute to the new #21?

    Where, other than your fevered imagination, do you get the idea my
    family as contributed anything to either of my racing car purchases, you
    lying sack of shit?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Thomas Elam on Sun Dec 17 10:40:55 2023
    On 2023-12-16 17:09, Thomas Elam wrote:
    On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 6:32:28 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    What a true piece of shit you are, Thomas Elam. On 2023-12-16
    11:30, Thomas E. wrote:
    He literally has not raced once in Formula F since 2021 and
    not at all since 2022 when he raced in Formula Continental
    once.
    BTW, I see that Google Groups posting is being
    discontinued as of 2/15/24. I'll not be moving to a new
    provider unless I can find a free one.
    Wow. You brag about how well you've organized your
    financial affairs...

    ...but a few bucks a month is going to stop you from
    posting.

    Eternal September, Little Shit.

    My point was that in 2021 Alan did come back (season champ
    too) and you were out until the last weekend when he did not
    race. You did not race against him. Very convenient.
    My younger brother was diagnosed with cancer in early April of
    2021, Little Shit. Esophageal cancer that had no symptoms until
    it was far FAR too late to do anything about it.

    So my life had a few other things to occupy it for pretty much
    the entire racing season.
    Unacknowledged here...

    ...but you KNEW that...

    ...and instead chose to "forget" it and imagine that I avoided
    coming out because Alan McColl came back.

    Step up, Liarboy. Admit the truth.

    I signed up for the final race of the year just to keep myself
    "current" for getting a racing license, and I don't sign up for
    races based on who is going to be there.

    OK, just for argument let's say the Honda engine had nothing
    to do with your improved performance. Then it was the better
    car, not you, that was responsible. You said so yourself,
    remember?
    What exactly did I say? I remember, but do you?

    I can easily afford to pay for Usenet. Past experience with
    paying via NewsAgent or something like that was not a great
    experience. Missing posts, and short histories. Got one you
    would recommend?
    "I'll not be moving to a new provider unless I can find a free
    one."

    As I recall you said the car was lighter and maybe another reason
    or two you bought it, like it had Honda power.
    And here we go again.

    Yes: it was lighter. The first car I bought was overweight due to
    an extensive rebuild after a serious crash by the owner who first
    brought it to Canada in 1990 or 1991. The "other reason or two" is
    you inventing more shit out of the whole cloth aside from me
    commenting that I wanted a car where spare parts were more easily
    obtained.

    As for the Honda, this is you once again trying to insinuate that
    it somehow made me faster on the track.

    No response? Shocking.


    As for your record against Dave McKay. It took some time, but I
    calculate 2013-2023 you finished ahead in 13 of 51 races where
    you both started and finished. I excluded all DNS and DNF
    instances. By year:

    Year Baker McKay 2022 0 0 2021 0 0 2020 0 0 2019 6 10 2018 3 4
    2017 0 7 2016 0 4 2015 3 8 2014 1 3 2013 0 2

    Totals 13 38 13/51*100%=25%

    If you wish to dispute please supply numbers including year,
    months and race number. There are only OW races.
    There's nothing that needs to be disputed, you lying sack of shit.

    I started racing in 2013. It's hardly surprising that I wouldn't
    be finishing ahead of someone with much more experience.

    But just for the record, in 2019, when both of us finished, the
    results were 10 for Dave to 5 times for me, so you can't even get
    it right when you're trying to denigrate me. But you want to class
    me as some kind of "also-ran" where you happily declare Dave
    "elite".

    Well in those meetings, in sessions where we both set a time:

    I out-qualified Dave 10 times of of 14.

    I had the faster race lap in 12 of the 15 races we both finished.

    Couldn't address this, huh?

    You lack any integrity.


    So, yes: Dave beat me fair and square over the season, but even he
    will admit that if I hadn't been taken out by a driver trying a
    suicide dive bomb on the second weekend of the year, the results
    could very well have gone the other way.

    The last few years are not the only times you have not raced on a
    regular basis liarboy! Must be terrible to not have the resources
    to be in the fray on a regular basis. How much did your family
    contribute to the new #21?
    Where, other than your fevered imagination, do you get the idea my
    family as contributed anything to either of my racing car
    purchases, you lying sack of shit?

    Right, I counted one of Dave's DNS as a win for you. So it was 5 out
    of 16, 32% for you and 68% for Dave. Not much better than your
    overall record and not much better than 2014-2015. Apparently, years
    of experience did not do much for you. There is an old saying, when
    deep in a hole maybe you better stop digging.

    Yes, that is your pattern of lies. Cherry pick data to make yourself
    look good, leaving out anything that makes you look bad. Like 2016
    and 2017. Like trying to turn one fast lap and bragging it into the equivalent of a championship season. How do we know if 2019 was an
    off year for Dave or not? We don't. Floer did not race in 2019, so no
    other benchmark.

    Darren Grandbois (the previous year's Formula Vee champion) raced in an
    even more modern FF than mine...

    ...and in the 5 races where we both finished, he finished behind me
    every time.

    BTW, I did a little figuring, and it's hilarious that you can't see how
    even Dave and I actually were.

    There were 14 races Dave and I both completed, totalling 211 laps.

    In 5 of those races, the difference in our finishing times was less than
    a second; 4 of them less than half a second.

    The aggregate difference in our finishes was a total of 41.366 seconds,
    or 0.196 seconds per lap...

    ...in my favour.


    Then too there is your long-standing tactic of branding anyone who
    disagrees as a liar.

    I brand liars "liar", Liarboy.

    You worked to earn that.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Thomas E. on Sun Dec 17 18:44:23 2023
    On 2023-12-17 16:38, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Sunday, December 17, 2023 at 1:40:59 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-12-16 17:09, Thomas Elam wrote:
    On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 6:32:28 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    What a true piece of shit you are, Thomas Elam. On 2023-12-16
    11:30, Thomas E. wrote:
    He literally has not raced once in Formula F since 2021
    and not at all since 2022 when he raced in Formula
    Continental once.
    BTW, I see that Google Groups posting is being
    discontinued as of 2/15/24. I'll not be moving to a
    new provider unless I can find a free one.
    Wow. You brag about how well you've organized your
    financial affairs...

    ...but a few bucks a month is going to stop you from
    posting.

    Eternal September, Little Shit.

    My point was that in 2021 Alan did come back (season
    champ too) and you were out until the last weekend when
    he did not race. You did not race against him. Very
    convenient.
    My younger brother was diagnosed with cancer in early April
    of 2021, Little Shit. Esophageal cancer that had no
    symptoms until it was far FAR too late to do anything about
    it.

    So my life had a few other things to occupy it for pretty
    much the entire racing season.
    Unacknowledged here...

    ...but you KNEW that...

    ...and instead chose to "forget" it and imagine that I avoided
    coming out because Alan McColl came back.
    Step up, Liarboy. Admit the truth.

    What a pissant you are.

    I signed up for the final race of the year just to keep
    myself "current" for getting a racing license, and I don't
    sign up for races based on who is going to be there.

    OK, just for argument let's say the Honda engine had
    nothing to do with your improved performance. Then it was
    the better car, not you, that was responsible. You said
    so yourself, remember?
    What exactly did I say? I remember, but do you?

    I can easily afford to pay for Usenet. Past experience
    with paying via NewsAgent or something like that was not
    a great experience. Missing posts, and short histories.
    Got one you would recommend?
    "I'll not be moving to a new provider unless I can find a
    free one."

    As I recall you said the car was lighter and maybe another
    reason or two you bought it, like it had Honda power.
    And here we go again.

    Yes: it was lighter. The first car I bought was overweight due
    to an extensive rebuild after a serious crash by the owner who
    first brought it to Canada in 1990 or 1991. The "other reason
    or two" is you inventing more shit out of the whole cloth aside
    from me commenting that I wanted a car where spare parts were
    more easily obtained.

    As for the Honda, this is you once again trying to insinuate
    that it somehow made me faster on the track.
    No response? Shocking.

    No balls.


    As for your record against Dave McKay. It took some time, but
    I calculate 2013-2023 you finished ahead in 13 of 51 races
    where you both started and finished. I excluded all DNS and
    DNF instances. By year:

    Year Baker McKay 2022 0 0 2021 0 0 2020 0 0 2019 6 10 2018 3
    4 2017 0 7 2016 0 4 2015 3 8 2014 1 3 2013 0 2

    Totals 13 38 13/51*100%=25%

    If you wish to dispute please supply numbers including year,
    months and race number. There are only OW races.
    There's nothing that needs to be disputed, you lying sack of
    shit.

    I started racing in 2013. It's hardly surprising that I
    wouldn't be finishing ahead of someone with much more
    experience.

    But just for the record, in 2019, when both of us finished,
    the results were 10 for Dave to 5 times for me, so you can't
    even get it right when you're trying to denigrate me. But you
    want to class me as some kind of "also-ran" where you happily
    declare Dave "elite".

    Well in those meetings, in sessions where we both set a time:

    I out-qualified Dave 10 times of of 14.

    I had the faster race lap in 12 of the 15 races we both
    finished.
    Couldn't address this, huh?

    You lack any integrity.

    None at all.


    So, yes: Dave beat me fair and square over the season, but even
    he will admit that if I hadn't been taken out by a driver
    trying a suicide dive bomb on the second weekend of the year,
    the results could very well have gone the other way.

    The last few years are not the only times you have not raced
    on a regular basis liarboy! Must be terrible to not have the
    resources to be in the fray on a regular basis. How much did
    your family contribute to the new #21?
    Where, other than your fevered imagination, do you get the idea
    my family as contributed anything to either of my racing car
    purchases, you lying sack of shit?

    Oh, I forgot this little bit of weasel bullshit.

    Have you got anything to back up your insinuations, pissant?


    Right, I counted one of Dave's DNS as a win for you. So it was 5
    out of 16, 32% for you and 68% for Dave. Not much better than
    your overall record and not much better than 2014-2015.
    Apparently, years of experience did not do much for you. There is
    an old saying, when deep in a hole maybe you better stop
    digging.

    Yes, that is your pattern of lies. Cherry pick data to make
    yourself look good, leaving out anything that makes you look bad.
    Like 2016 and 2017. Like trying to turn one fast lap and bragging
    it into the equivalent of a championship season. How do we know
    if 2019 was an off year for Dave or not? We don't. Floer did not
    race in 2019, so no other benchmark.
    Darren Grandbois (the previous year's Formula Vee champion) raced
    in an even more modern FF than mine...

    ...and in the 5 races where we both finished, he finished behind
    me every time.

    Didn't address this either.


    BTW, I did a little figuring, and it's hilarious that you can't see
    how even Dave and I actually were.

    There were 14 races Dave and I both completed, totalling 211 laps.

    In 5 of those races, the difference in our finishing times was less
    than a second; 4 of them less than half a second.

    The aggregate difference in our finishes was a total of 41.366
    seconds, or 0.196 seconds per lap...

    ...in my favour.
    Then too there is your long-standing tactic of branding anyone
    who disagrees as a liar.
    I brand liars "liar", Liarboy.

    You worked to earn that.
    Well, well, in 6 hours you accuse of not answering.

    What the hell does that even mean, Liarboy?

    It's one thing to
    run fast laps, it's another to come in ahead of other drivers. What
    you just proved is that you can run faster laps than McKay, but the
    results say that he finishes ahead of you 75% of the time.

    Your own argument is that it was 68%, Liarboy...

    ...but the actual number was 9 times he finished ahead of when we both
    finished (I had a DNF on July 28 you miscounted) and 5 times when I
    finished ahead of him. 9/14 is 64%.

    That
    PROVES that Dave is the better RACE driver.

    I never said he wasn't, Liarboy. But when we're both winning races
    against each other and on balance I was farther ahead (and on the same
    track under the same conditions, my best lap was a full 0.7
    seconds--almost 1%——better than his), it does suggest parity to anyone without an ax to grind.

    I am not accepting your
    cherry-picked data.

    Look it up yourself:

    <https://speedhive.mylaps.com>

    But, I am willing to admit that McKay is not the
    same standard as Floer and McColl. So, I am demoting McKay to the top
    of the second tier and you are now #2 second best tier driver.

    But you've been insisting he's top tier.

    And until you realized that I regularly beat Olov, you were insisting HE
    was top tier, too.

    Weird, huh?

    If I beat Doug next year, will he become "second tier" too?

    But this has always been about your bullshit, uniformed, ignorant claim
    that I'm not any good at all. Must I go back and provide the quotes,
    asshole?

    :-)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Thomas E. on Thu Dec 21 07:47:40 2023
    On 2023-12-21 06:55, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Sunday, December 17, 2023 at 9:44:27 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-12-17 16:38, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Sunday, December 17, 2023 at 1:40:59 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-12-16 17:09, Thomas Elam wrote:
    On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 6:32:28 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    What a true piece of shit you are, Thomas Elam. On 2023-12-16
    11:30, Thomas E. wrote:
    He literally has not raced once in Formula F since 2021
    and not at all since 2022 when he raced in Formula
    Continental once.
    BTW, I see that Google Groups posting is being
    discontinued as of 2/15/24. I'll not be moving to a
    new provider unless I can find a free one.
    Wow. You brag about how well you've organized your
    financial affairs...

    ...but a few bucks a month is going to stop you from
    posting.

    Eternal September, Little Shit.

    My point was that in 2021 Alan did come back (season
    champ too) and you were out until the last weekend when
    he did not race. You did not race against him. Very
    convenient.
    My younger brother was diagnosed with cancer in early April
    of 2021, Little Shit. Esophageal cancer that had no
    symptoms until it was far FAR too late to do anything about
    it.

    So my life had a few other things to occupy it for pretty
    much the entire racing season.
    Unacknowledged here...

    ...but you KNEW that...

    ...and instead chose to "forget" it and imagine that I avoided
    coming out because Alan McColl came back.
    Step up, Liarboy. Admit the truth.
    What a pissant you are.
    I signed up for the final race of the year just to keep
    myself "current" for getting a racing license, and I don't
    sign up for races based on who is going to be there.

    OK, just for argument let's say the Honda engine had
    nothing to do with your improved performance. Then it was
    the better car, not you, that was responsible. You said
    so yourself, remember?
    What exactly did I say? I remember, but do you?

    I can easily afford to pay for Usenet. Past experience
    with paying via NewsAgent or something like that was not
    a great experience. Missing posts, and short histories.
    Got one you would recommend?
    "I'll not be moving to a new provider unless I can find a
    free one."

    As I recall you said the car was lighter and maybe another
    reason or two you bought it, like it had Honda power.
    And here we go again.

    Yes: it was lighter. The first car I bought was overweight due
    to an extensive rebuild after a serious crash by the owner who
    first brought it to Canada in 1990 or 1991. The "other reason
    or two" is you inventing more shit out of the whole cloth aside
    from me commenting that I wanted a car where spare parts were
    more easily obtained.

    As for the Honda, this is you once again trying to insinuate
    that it somehow made me faster on the track.
    No response? Shocking.
    No balls.

    As for your record against Dave McKay. It took some time, but
    I calculate 2013-2023 you finished ahead in 13 of 51 races
    where you both started and finished. I excluded all DNS and
    DNF instances. By year:

    Year Baker McKay 2022 0 0 2021 0 0 2020 0 0 2019 6 10 2018 3
    4 2017 0 7 2016 0 4 2015 3 8 2014 1 3 2013 0 2

    Totals 13 38 13/51*100%=25%

    If you wish to dispute please supply numbers including year,
    months and race number. There are only OW races.
    There's nothing that needs to be disputed, you lying sack of
    shit.

    I started racing in 2013. It's hardly surprising that I
    wouldn't be finishing ahead of someone with much more
    experience.

    But just for the record, in 2019, when both of us finished,
    the results were 10 for Dave to 5 times for me, so you can't
    even get it right when you're trying to denigrate me. But you
    want to class me as some kind of "also-ran" where you happily
    declare Dave "elite".

    Well in those meetings, in sessions where we both set a time:

    I out-qualified Dave 10 times of of 14.

    I had the faster race lap in 12 of the 15 races we both
    finished.
    Couldn't address this, huh?

    You lack any integrity.
    None at all.

    So, yes: Dave beat me fair and square over the season, but even
    he will admit that if I hadn't been taken out by a driver
    trying a suicide dive bomb on the second weekend of the year,
    the results could very well have gone the other way.

    The last few years are not the only times you have not raced
    on a regular basis liarboy! Must be terrible to not have the
    resources to be in the fray on a regular basis. How much did
    your family contribute to the new #21?
    Where, other than your fevered imagination, do you get the idea
    my family as contributed anything to either of my racing car
    purchases, you lying sack of shit?
    Oh, I forgot this little bit of weasel bullshit.

    Have you got anything to back up your insinuations, pissant?

    Right, I counted one of Dave's DNS as a win for you. So it was 5
    out of 16, 32% for you and 68% for Dave. Not much better than
    your overall record and not much better than 2014-2015.
    Apparently, years of experience did not do much for you. There is
    an old saying, when deep in a hole maybe you better stop
    digging.

    Yes, that is your pattern of lies. Cherry pick data to make
    yourself look good, leaving out anything that makes you look bad.
    Like 2016 and 2017. Like trying to turn one fast lap and bragging
    it into the equivalent of a championship season. How do we know
    if 2019 was an off year for Dave or not? We don't. Floer did not
    race in 2019, so no other benchmark.
    Darren Grandbois (the previous year's Formula Vee champion) raced
    in an even more modern FF than mine...

    ...and in the 5 races where we both finished, he finished behind
    me every time.
    Didn't address this either.

    BTW, I did a little figuring, and it's hilarious that you can't see
    how even Dave and I actually were.

    There were 14 races Dave and I both completed, totalling 211 laps.

    In 5 of those races, the difference in our finishing times was less
    than a second; 4 of them less than half a second.

    The aggregate difference in our finishes was a total of 41.366
    seconds, or 0.196 seconds per lap...

    ...in my favour.
    Then too there is your long-standing tactic of branding anyone
    who disagrees as a liar.
    I brand liars "liar", Liarboy.

    You worked to earn that.
    Well, well, in 6 hours you accuse of not answering.
    What the hell does that even mean, Liarboy?
    It's one thing to
    run fast laps, it's another to come in ahead of other drivers. What
    you just proved is that you can run faster laps than McKay, but the
    results say that he finishes ahead of you 75% of the time.
    Your own argument is that it was 68%, Liarboy...

    ...but the actual number was 9 times he finished ahead of when we both
    finished (I had a DNF on July 28 you miscounted) and 5 times when I
    finished ahead of him. 9/14 is 64%.
    That
    PROVES that Dave is the better RACE driver.
    I never said he wasn't, Liarboy. But when we're both winning races
    against each other and on balance I was farther ahead (and on the same
    track under the same conditions, my best lap was a full 0.7
    seconds--almost 1%——better than his), it does suggest parity to anyone >> without an ax to grind.
    I am not accepting your
    cherry-picked data.
    Look it up yourself:

    <https://speedhive.mylaps.com>
    But, I am willing to admit that McKay is not the
    same standard as Floer and McColl. So, I am demoting McKay to the top
    of the second tier and you are now #2 second best tier driver.
    But you've been insisting he's top tier.

    And until you realized that I regularly beat Olov, you were insisting HE
    was top tier, too.

    Weird, huh?

    If I beat Doug next year, will he become "second tier" too?

    But this has always been about your bullshit, uniformed, ignorant claim
    that I'm not any good at all. Must I go back and provide the quotes,
    asshole?

    :-)
    LOL. Fast laps and qualifying positions don't win races or championship points. IF you race next year AND beat Floer or McColl on a regular basis you will join that elite group. I'll send you an email.
    Why does what I think even matter to you anyway?

    It amuses me, Liarboy.

    I love how you twist yourself into knots trying to avoid the obvious.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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