• August Formula Ford race results!

    From Thomas E.@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 21 08:53:57 2023
    Doug Floer continued his recent winning ways by finishing first in all 3 races and qualifying. Dave McKay was close in 2 race sessions, but still came in second. Robert Fraser was competitive early in the season, but finished poorly in August. All other
    drivers were far behind the leaders. Erle Archer, winner of the 2022 FF trophy, has had a terrible season. He has not raced since June.

    Doug Floer will move to the season championship FF lead when this month's results are posted by SCCBC. If he shows up for the next 2 race weekends he's very likely to win yet another trophy.

    Notably, Alan Baker continues to be absent. He claims that the (simply awful IMHO) Candian healthcare system cannot schedule him until September or October for a minor racing-disqualifying surgery for an issue diagnosed months ago. Very convenient that
    he is out of the running for the entire season now that Doug Floer and Dave McKay, two of the best drivers in the class, are back full time at the track!

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Thomas E. on Wed Aug 23 09:08:27 2023
    On 2023-08-21 08:53, Thomas E. wrote:
    Doug Floer continued his recent winning ways by finishing first in
    all 3 races and qualifying. Dave McKay was close in 2 race sessions,
    but still came in second. Robert Fraser was competitive early in the
    season, but finished poorly in August. All other drivers were far
    behind the leaders. Erle Archer, winner of the 2022 FF trophy, has
    had a terrible season. He has not raced since June.

    Doug Floer will move to the season championship FF lead when this
    month's results are posted by SCCBC. If he shows up for the next 2
    race weekends he's very likely to win yet another trophy.

    Notably, Alan Baker continues to be absent. He claims that the
    (simply awful IMHO) Candian healthcare system cannot schedule him
    until September or October for a minor racing-disqualifying surgery
    for an issue diagnosed months ago. Very convenient that he is out of
    the running for the entire season now that Doug Floer and Dave McKay,
    two of the best drivers in the class, are back full time at the
    track!

    So you admit that I've beaten one of those two more than a third of the
    time when we raced head to head, right, Little Shit?

    And I never said that the surgery was "racing-disqualifying". That's
    just another lie you've made up from a whole cloth. The problem is that preparing the car for racing, loading it into the trailer, unloading
    everything at the track, setting up my paddock space, fuelling the car
    and performing other common tasks between sessions, packing up at the
    end, and then unloading it all again at my garage...

    ...those aren't things I'm likely to do while suffering from a hernia.

    And no: it's NOT convenient. It's very frustrating. But unfortunately,
    because I have a blood condition which requires me to take blood
    thinners, there are some locations for surgery that won't accept me as a patient.

    But at least every Canadian CAN get the surgery, and if it were a more
    acute situation, I'd get it much faster.

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  • From Thomas E.@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Aug 24 06:33:06 2023
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 12:08:30 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-21 08:53, Thomas E. wrote:
    Doug Floer continued his recent winning ways by finishing first in
    all 3 races and qualifying. Dave McKay was close in 2 race sessions,
    but still came in second. Robert Fraser was competitive early in the season, but finished poorly in August. All other drivers were far
    behind the leaders. Erle Archer, winner of the 2022 FF trophy, has
    had a terrible season. He has not raced since June.

    Doug Floer will move to the season championship FF lead when this
    month's results are posted by SCCBC. If he shows up for the next 2
    race weekends he's very likely to win yet another trophy.

    Notably, Alan Baker continues to be absent. He claims that the
    (simply awful IMHO) Candian healthcare system cannot schedule him
    until September or October for a minor racing-disqualifying surgery
    for an issue diagnosed months ago. Very convenient that he is out of
    the running for the entire season now that Doug Floer and Dave McKay,
    two of the best drivers in the class, are back full time at the
    track!
    So you admit that I've beaten one of those two more than a third of the
    time when we raced head to head, right, Little Shit?

    And I never said that the surgery was "racing-disqualifying". That's
    just another lie you've made up from a whole cloth. The problem is that preparing the car for racing, loading it into the trailer, unloading everything at the track, setting up my paddock space, fuelling the car
    and performing other common tasks between sessions, packing up at the
    end, and then unloading it all again at my garage...

    ...those aren't things I'm likely to do while suffering from a hernia.

    And no: it's NOT convenient. It's very frustrating. But unfortunately, because I have a blood condition which requires me to take blood
    thinners, there are some locations for surgery that won't accept me as a patient.

    But at least every Canadian CAN get the surgery, and if it were a more
    acute situation, I'd get it much faster.

    Yes, you beat him about one time out of three. BUT, you are not as good as he is. I'll say it again, you are not as good as Floer, McCall and McKay. Your record proves it.

    Every American could get that surgery. Medicaid would fund it. Do you understand that Medicaid has no premiums and covers over 70 million people? It is available to all with incomes under a threshold. Enrollment is free.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Thomas E. on Thu Aug 24 13:17:31 2023
    On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 9:33:08 AM UTC-4, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 12:08:30 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-21 08:53, Thomas E. wrote:
    Doug Floer continued his recent winning ways by finishing first in
    all 3 races and qualifying. Dave McKay was close in 2 race sessions,
    but still came in second. Robert Fraser was competitive early in the season, but finished poorly in August. All other drivers were far
    behind the leaders. Erle Archer, winner of the 2022 FF trophy, has
    had a terrible season. He has not raced since June.

    Doug Floer will move to the season championship FF lead when this month's results are posted by SCCBC. If he shows up for the next 2
    race weekends he's very likely to win yet another trophy.

    Notably, Alan Baker continues to be absent. He claims that the
    (simply awful IMHO) Candian healthcare system cannot schedule him
    until September or October for a minor racing-disqualifying surgery
    for an issue diagnosed months ago. Very convenient that he is out of
    the running for the entire season now that Doug Floer and Dave McKay, two of the best drivers in the class, are back full time at the
    track!
    So you admit that I've beaten one of those two more than a third of the time when we raced head to head, right, Little Shit?

    And I never said that the surgery was "racing-disqualifying". That's
    just another lie you've made up from a whole cloth. The problem is that preparing the car for racing, loading it into the trailer, unloading everything at the track, setting up my paddock space, fuelling the car
    and performing other common tasks between sessions, packing up at the
    end, and then unloading it all again at my garage...

    ...those aren't things I'm likely to do while suffering from a hernia.

    And no: it's NOT convenient. It's very frustrating. But unfortunately, because I have a blood condition which requires me to take blood
    thinners, there are some locations for surgery that won't accept me as a patient.

    But at least every Canadian CAN get the surgery, and if it were a more acute situation, I'd get it much faster.

    Yes, you beat him about one time out of three. BUT, you are not as good as he is.
    I'll say it again, you are not as good as Floer, McCall and McKay. Your record proves it.

    Doesn't matter because the claim wasn't that Alan's the "best driver". The fact that
    Alan was able to win 1/3rd of the time against those who you've admitted are good
    indicates an adequate level of parity such that Alan must be considered good too.


    Every American could get that surgery. Medicaid would fund it. Do you understand
    that Medicaid has no premiums and covers over 70 million people?
    It is available to all with incomes under a threshold. Enrollment is free.

    Alan makes more than $20,120, which means ineligible & moot.


    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Thomas E. on Thu Aug 24 14:52:55 2023
    On 2023-08-24 06:33, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 12:08:30 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-21 08:53, Thomas E. wrote:
    Doug Floer continued his recent winning ways by finishing first
    in all 3 races and qualifying. Dave McKay was close in 2 race
    sessions, but still came in second. Robert Fraser was competitive
    early in the season, but finished poorly in August. All other
    drivers were far behind the leaders. Erle Archer, winner of the
    2022 FF trophy, has had a terrible season. He has not raced since
    June.

    Doug Floer will move to the season championship FF lead when
    this month's results are posted by SCCBC. If he shows up for the
    next 2 race weekends he's very likely to win yet another trophy.

    Notably, Alan Baker continues to be absent. He claims that the
    (simply awful IMHO) Candian healthcare system cannot schedule
    him until September or October for a minor racing-disqualifying
    surgery for an issue diagnosed months ago. Very convenient that
    he is out of the running for the entire season now that Doug
    Floer and Dave McKay, two of the best drivers in the class, are
    back full time at the track!
    So you admit that I've beaten one of those two more than a third of
    the time when we raced head to head, right, Little Shit?

    And I never said that the surgery was "racing-disqualifying".
    That's just another lie you've made up from a whole cloth. The
    problem is that preparing the car for racing, loading it into the
    trailer, unloading everything at the track, setting up my paddock
    space, fuelling the car and performing other common tasks between
    sessions, packing up at the end, and then unloading it all again at
    my garage...

    ...those aren't things I'm likely to do while suffering from a
    hernia.

    And no: it's NOT convenient. It's very frustrating. But
    unfortunately, because I have a blood condition which requires me
    to take blood thinners, there are some locations for surgery that
    won't accept me as a patient.

    But at least every Canadian CAN get the surgery, and if it were a
    more acute situation, I'd get it much faster.

    Yes, you beat him about one time out of three. BUT, you are not as
    good as he is. I'll say it again, you are not as good as Floer,
    McCall and McKay. Your record proves it.

    Every American could get that surgery. Medicaid would fund it. Do you understand that Medicaid has no premiums and covers over 70 million
    people? It is available to all with incomes under a threshold.
    Enrollment is free.

    I think HH just answered this at least as well as I could.

    But one thing he didn't bring up:

    If Medicaid solves all the problems of health care in the US...

    ...why are so many people in the US (something like 500,000 a year)
    forced into bankruptcy due to medical bills?

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  • From Thomas E.@21:1/5 to -hh on Fri Sep 1 07:21:47 2023
    On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 2:17:33 PM UTC-6, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 9:33:08 AM UTC-4, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 12:08:30 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-21 08:53, Thomas E. wrote:
    Doug Floer continued his recent winning ways by finishing first in
    all 3 races and qualifying. Dave McKay was close in 2 race sessions, but still came in second. Robert Fraser was competitive early in the season, but finished poorly in August. All other drivers were far behind the leaders. Erle Archer, winner of the 2022 FF trophy, has
    had a terrible season. He has not raced since June.

    Doug Floer will move to the season championship FF lead when this month's results are posted by SCCBC. If he shows up for the next 2 race weekends he's very likely to win yet another trophy.

    Notably, Alan Baker continues to be absent. He claims that the
    (simply awful IMHO) Candian healthcare system cannot schedule him until September or October for a minor racing-disqualifying surgery for an issue diagnosed months ago. Very convenient that he is out of the running for the entire season now that Doug Floer and Dave McKay, two of the best drivers in the class, are back full time at the
    track!
    So you admit that I've beaten one of those two more than a third of the time when we raced head to head, right, Little Shit?

    And I never said that the surgery was "racing-disqualifying". That's just another lie you've made up from a whole cloth. The problem is that preparing the car for racing, loading it into the trailer, unloading everything at the track, setting up my paddock space, fuelling the car and performing other common tasks between sessions, packing up at the end, and then unloading it all again at my garage...

    ...those aren't things I'm likely to do while suffering from a hernia.

    And no: it's NOT convenient. It's very frustrating. But unfortunately, because I have a blood condition which requires me to take blood thinners, there are some locations for surgery that won't accept me as a patient.

    But at least every Canadian CAN get the surgery, and if it were a more acute situation, I'd get it much faster.

    Yes, you beat him about one time out of three. BUT, you are not as good as he is.
    I'll say it again, you are not as good as Floer, McCall and McKay. Your record proves it.
    Doesn't matter because the claim wasn't that Alan's the "best driver". The fact that
    Alan was able to win 1/3rd of the time against those who you've admitted are good
    indicates an adequate level of parity such that Alan must be considered good too.
    Every American could get that surgery. Medicaid would fund it. Do you understand
    that Medicaid has no premiums and covers over 70 million people?
    It is available to all with incomes under a threshold. Enrollment is free.
    Alan makes more than $20,120, which means ineligible & moot.


    -hh

    I never said he was not good. I said he is not in the same class as the great FF drivers. Your stat proves it. How do you know how much Alan makes?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Thomas E. on Fri Sep 1 07:42:51 2023
    On 2023-09-01 07:21, Thomas E. wrote:

    Doesn't matter because the claim wasn't that Alan's the "best
    driver". The fact that Alan was able to win 1/3rd of the time
    against those who you've admitted are good indicates an adequate
    level of parity such that Alan must be considered good too.
    Every American could get that surgery. Medicaid would fund it. Do
    you understand that Medicaid has no premiums and covers over 70
    million people? It is available to all with incomes under a
    threshold. Enrollment is free.
    Alan makes more than $20,120, which means ineligible & moot.


    -hh

    I never said he was not good.

    Actually, that's precisely what you've previously claimed, you lying
    Little Shit.

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  • From Thomas E.@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Sep 1 08:06:38 2023
    On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 3:53:03 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-24 06:33, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 12:08:30 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-08-21 08:53, Thomas E. wrote:
    Doug Floer continued his recent winning ways by finishing first
    in all 3 races and qualifying. Dave McKay was close in 2 race
    sessions, but still came in second. Robert Fraser was competitive
    early in the season, but finished poorly in August. All other
    drivers were far behind the leaders. Erle Archer, winner of the
    2022 FF trophy, has had a terrible season. He has not raced since
    June.

    Doug Floer will move to the season championship FF lead when
    this month's results are posted by SCCBC. If he shows up for the
    next 2 race weekends he's very likely to win yet another trophy.

    Notably, Alan Baker continues to be absent. He claims that the
    (simply awful IMHO) Candian healthcare system cannot schedule
    him until September or October for a minor racing-disqualifying
    surgery for an issue diagnosed months ago. Very convenient that
    he is out of the running for the entire season now that Doug
    Floer and Dave McKay, two of the best drivers in the class, are
    back full time at the track!
    So you admit that I've beaten one of those two more than a third of
    the time when we raced head to head, right, Little Shit?

    And I never said that the surgery was "racing-disqualifying".
    That's just another lie you've made up from a whole cloth. The
    problem is that preparing the car for racing, loading it into the
    trailer, unloading everything at the track, setting up my paddock
    space, fuelling the car and performing other common tasks between
    sessions, packing up at the end, and then unloading it all again at
    my garage...

    ...those aren't things I'm likely to do while suffering from a
    hernia.

    And no: it's NOT convenient. It's very frustrating. But
    unfortunately, because I have a blood condition which requires me
    to take blood thinners, there are some locations for surgery that
    won't accept me as a patient.

    But at least every Canadian CAN get the surgery, and if it were a
    more acute situation, I'd get it much faster.

    Yes, you beat him about one time out of three. BUT, you are not as
    good as he is. I'll say it again, you are not as good as Floer,
    McCall and McKay. Your record proves it.

    Every American could get that surgery. Medicaid would fund it. Do you understand that Medicaid has no premiums and covers over 70 million people? It is available to all with incomes under a threshold.
    Enrollment is free.
    I think HH just answered this at least as well as I could.

    But one thing he didn't bring up:

    If Medicaid solves all the problems of health care in the US...

    ...why are so many people in the US (something like 500,000 a year)
    forced into bankruptcy due to medical bills?

    Because they can't handle family finances.

    https://www.debt.org/bankruptcy/medical/

    "As many as 62% of bankruptcies include significant medical debt, according to a study the Maine Law Review. Despite causing so much financial stress, there is no actual “medical bankruptcy.”

    "When you file for bankruptcy, you are required to make a list of your debts. That’s stuff like credit cards, mortgages, personal loans, utility bills – all the money you owe but cannot pay."

    Total U.S. family bankruptcy incidence is about 750,000 per year. Canada about 100,000, about the same proportion of population. Like the U.S. the incidence has increased over time:

    https://www.bankofcanada.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/boc-review-winter11-12-allen.pdf

    "Since 2000, approximately 100,000 Canadians have filed for insolvency
    each year. This comprises mostly bankruptcies and is triple the annual
    number of bankruptcies in the 1980s."

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Thomas E. on Fri Sep 1 09:11:17 2023
    On 2023-09-01 08:06, Thomas E. wrote:
    Every American could get that surgery. Medicaid would fund it. Do
    you understand that Medicaid has no premiums and covers over 70
    million people? It is available to all with incomes under a
    threshold. Enrollment is free.
    I think HH just answered this at least as well as I could.

    But one thing he didn't bring up:

    If Medicaid solves all the problems of health care in the US...

    ...why are so many people in the US (something like 500,000 a
    year) forced into bankruptcy due to medical bills?

    Because they can't handle family finances.

    A cozy belief for you, I'm sure.


    https://www.debt.org/bankruptcy/medical/

    "As many as 62% of bankruptcies include significant medical debt,
    according to a study the Maine Law Review. Despite causing so much
    financial stress, there is no actual “medical bankruptcy.”

    That's not the great rebuttal you seem to think it is.


    "When you file for bankruptcy, you are required to make a list of
    your debts. That’s stuff like credit cards, mortgages, personal
    loans, utility bills – all the money you owe but cannot pay."

    Total U.S. family bankruptcy incidence is about 750,000 per year.
    Canada about 100,000, about the same proportion of population. Like
    the U.S. the incidence has increased over time:

    https://www.bankofcanada.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/boc-review-winter11-12-allen.pdf

    "Since 2000, approximately 100,000 Canadians have filed for
    insolvency each year. This comprises mostly bankruptcies and is
    triple the annual number of bankruptcies in the 1980s."


    "Bank of Canada Review • winter 2011–2012"

    More than a decade out of date.

    AND you provide no source for your claim of US rates.

    Shocking, I tell you.

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  • From Thomas E.@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Sep 26 17:47:12 2023
    On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 10:42:58 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 07:21, Thomas E. wrote:

    Doesn't matter because the claim wasn't that Alan's the "best
    driver". The fact that Alan was able to win 1/3rd of the time
    against those who you've admitted are good indicates an adequate
    level of parity such that Alan must be considered good too.
    Every American could get that surgery. Medicaid would fund it. Do
    you understand that Medicaid has no premiums and covers over 70
    million people? It is available to all with incomes under a
    threshold. Enrollment is free.
    Alan makes more than $20,120, which means ineligible & moot.


    -hh

    I never said he was not good.
    Actually, that's precisely what you've previously claimed, you lying
    Little Shit.

    No Alan, I said you were the best of the second rate drivers. That's good, but not excellent.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Thomas E. on Tue Sep 26 18:09:54 2023
    On 2023-09-26 17:47, Thomas E. wrote:
    On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 10:42:58 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 07:21, Thomas E. wrote:

    Doesn't matter because the claim wasn't that Alan's the "best
    driver". The fact that Alan was able to win 1/3rd of the time
    against those who you've admitted are good indicates an adequate
    level of parity such that Alan must be considered good too.
    Every American could get that surgery. Medicaid would fund it. Do
    you understand that Medicaid has no premiums and covers over 70
    million people? It is available to all with incomes under a
    threshold. Enrollment is free.
    Alan makes more than $20,120, which means ineligible & moot.


    -hh

    I never said he was not good.
    Actually, that's precisely what you've previously claimed, you lying
    Little Shit.

    No Alan, I said you were the best of the second rate drivers. That's good, but not excellent.

    Sorry, but you're a liar.

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