Another Siri failure!
This actually happened yesterday when I was driving from an AMA Fun
Fly event at their Muncie HQ back home. I'm thinking of joining
another radio control club, but they very recently moved to a new
location, and I am not quite sure how to find it. The new flying
field was on the way home. I want to look at this new facility before
even contacting them about membership.
I needed directions. Let's see if Siri or Google Maps can find the
new site.
Let's give Siri a try first!
I say Hey Siri, Nearest RC club Noblesville Indiana Up pops only
Screaming Eagles, Plainfield IN, on the southwest side of
Indianapolis. The one I wanted is the NeST club northeast of
Noblesville and Indianapolis. The two are about 40 miles apart. What
a farce. Can't find it at all.
Let's give Google Maps a chance.
I say Hey Siri, Hey Google, Google Maps. Up pops Google Maps
(contrary to Alan Baker's claim this does not work.).
Press the Mic
icon, say Nearest RC
club Noblesville, select the first one Northeast
Taildraggers aka NeST: https://www.nest-rc.org/ (site is not fully
updated for the new location)
This is the one I wanted. Google's directions I used yesterday to
find it on the way home from Muncie worked perfectly.
Screen capture videos:
Siri https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wJPDh_i0dyoyujM-giGCSNAocXJA-6jt/view?usp=sharing
Google Maps https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vU1pO-3ySj0cYvh4SNvPvu_qCjEXRxo8/view?usp=sharing
On 2023-05-27 08:01, Thomas E. wrote:
Another Siri failure!
More bullshit from you, you mean.
This actually happened yesterday when I was driving from an AMA Fun
Fly event at their Muncie HQ back home. I'm thinking of joining
another radio control club, but they very recently moved to a new location, and I am not quite sure how to find it. The new flying
field was on the way home. I want to look at this new facility before
even contacting them about membership.
I needed directions. Let's see if Siri or Google Maps can find the
new site.
Let's give Siri a try first!
I say Hey Siri, Nearest RC club Noblesville Indiana Up pops only"nearest", not "NeST"? Interesting.
And once again, you say a plain address to Siri...
...not "Navigate to" or "Driving directions to".
I just trying saying "navigate to nest rc club noblesville indiana" and
it worked on the first try.
Screaming Eagles, Plainfield IN, on the southwest side ofOn Olio Road, right?
Indianapolis. The one I wanted is the NeST club northeast of
Noblesville and Indianapolis. The two are about 40 miles apart. What
a farce. Can't find it at all.
Found it!
Let's give Google Maps a chance.
I say Hey Siri, Hey Google, Google Maps. Up pops Google Maps"Hey Siri, Google Maps" would work also.
(contrary to Alan Baker's claim this does not work.).
One of Siri's features is launching apps.
Press the Mic"nest"
icon, say Nearest RC
club Noblesville, select the first one NortheastAnd once again, you speak a location with no preamble to a general
Taildraggers aka NeST: https://www.nest-rc.org/ (site is not fully
updated for the new location)
purpose app...
...(when you've been told it won't work and why)...
...and compare that to pressing a microphone button in a field that is explicitly asking you for a location.
This is the one I wanted. Google's directions I used yesterday to
find it on the way home from Muncie worked perfectly.
Screen capture videos:
Siri https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wJPDh_i0dyoyujM-giGCSNAocXJA-6jt/view?usp=sharing
Google Maps https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vU1pO-3ySj0cYvh4SNvPvu_qCjEXRxo8/view?usp=sharingHow long did it take you to contrive this situation?
How many test runs?
On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 2:32:11 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-05-27 08:01, Thomas E. wrote:
Another Siri failure!
More bullshit from you, you mean.
"nearest", not "NeST"? Interesting.
This actually happened yesterday when I was driving from an AMA Fun
Fly event at their Muncie HQ back home. I'm thinking of joining
another radio control club, but they very recently moved to a new
location, and I am not quite sure how to find it. The new flying
field was on the way home. I want to look at this new facility before
even contacting them about membership.
I needed directions. Let's see if Siri or Google Maps can find the
new site.
Let's give Siri a try first!
I say Hey Siri, Nearest RC club Noblesville Indiana Up pops only
And once again, you say a plain address to Siri...
...not "Navigate to" or "Driving directions to".
I just trying saying "navigate to nest rc club noblesville indiana" and
it worked on the first try.
Screaming Eagles, Plainfield IN, on the southwest side ofOn Olio Road, right?
Indianapolis. The one I wanted is the NeST club northeast of
Noblesville and Indianapolis. The two are about 40 miles apart. What
a farce. Can't find it at all.
Found it!
"Hey Siri, Google Maps" would work also.
Let's give Google Maps a chance.
I say Hey Siri, Hey Google, Google Maps. Up pops Google Maps
(contrary to Alan Baker's claim this does not work.).
One of Siri's features is launching apps.
Press the Mic"nest"
icon, say Nearest RC
club Noblesville, select the first one NortheastAnd once again, you speak a location with no preamble to a general
Taildraggers aka NeST: https://www.nest-rc.org/ (site is not fully
updated for the new location)
purpose app...
...(when you've been told it won't work and why)...
...and compare that to pressing a microphone button in a field that is
explicitly asking you for a location.
How long did it take you to contrive this situation?
This is the one I wanted. Google's directions I used yesterday to
find it on the way home from Muncie worked perfectly.
Screen capture videos:
Siri
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wJPDh_i0dyoyujM-giGCSNAocXJA-6jt/view?usp=sharing
Google Maps
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vU1pO-3ySj0cYvh4SNvPvu_qCjEXRxo8/view?usp=sharing
How many test runs?
Zero test runs. It was not contrived. Try it yourself in your car, even in CarPlay with Apple Maps in the foreground. Oops, you can't do that in your car. It does not have CarPlay.
On 2023-06-04 06:57, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 2:32:11 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:Address this fact, Little Shit.
On 2023-05-27 08:01, Thomas E. wrote:
Another Siri failure!
More bullshit from you, you mean.
"nearest", not "NeST"? Interesting.
This actually happened yesterday when I was driving from an AMA Fun
Fly event at their Muncie HQ back home. I'm thinking of joining
another radio control club, but they very recently moved to a new
location, and I am not quite sure how to find it. The new flying
field was on the way home. I want to look at this new facility before >>> even contacting them about membership.
I needed directions. Let's see if Siri or Google Maps can find the
new site.
Let's give Siri a try first!
I say Hey Siri, Nearest RC club Noblesville Indiana Up pops only
And once again, you say a plain address to Siri...
...not "Navigate to" or "Driving directions to".
I just trying saying "navigate to nest rc club noblesville indiana" and >> it worked on the first try.
And this, Little Shit.Screaming Eagles, Plainfield IN, on the southwest side ofOn Olio Road, right?
Indianapolis. The one I wanted is the NeST club northeast of
Noblesville and Indianapolis. The two are about 40 miles apart. What
a farce. Can't find it at all.
Found it!
And this, Little Shit."Hey Siri, Google Maps" would work also.
Let's give Google Maps a chance.
I say Hey Siri, Hey Google, Google Maps. Up pops Google Maps
(contrary to Alan Baker's claim this does not work.).
And address why you still misuse a general purpose digital assistant...
One of Siri's features is launching apps.
Press the Mic"nest"
icon, say Nearest RC
club Noblesville, select the first one NortheastAnd once again, you speak a location with no preamble to a general
Taildraggers aka NeST: https://www.nest-rc.org/ (site is not fully
updated for the new location)
purpose app...
...(when you've been told it won't work and why)...
...and compare that to pressing a microphone button in a field that is
explicitly asking you for a location.
...after having been told MULTIPLE times how you're supposed to use it.
How long did it take you to contrive this situation?
This is the one I wanted. Google's directions I used yesterday to
find it on the way home from Muncie worked perfectly.
Screen capture videos:
Siri
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wJPDh_i0dyoyujM-giGCSNAocXJA-6jt/view?usp=sharing
Google Maps
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vU1pO-3ySj0cYvh4SNvPvu_qCjEXRxo8/view?usp=sharing
How many test runs?
Zero test runs. It was not contrived. Try it yourself in your car, even in CarPlay with Apple Maps in the foreground. Oops, you can't do that in your car. It does not have CarPlay.But my PHONE has Siri, and Carplay doesn't change how Siri responds to a general request.
Funny how someone who seems to actually be educated continues to "misunderstand" simple instructions about how Siri works.
On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 1:21:04 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-06-04 06:57, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 2:32:11 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:Address this fact, Little Shit.
On 2023-05-27 08:01, Thomas E. wrote:
Another Siri failure!
More bullshit from you, you mean.
"nearest", not "NeST"? Interesting.
This actually happened yesterday when I was driving from an
AMA Fun Fly event at their Muncie HQ back home. I'm thinking
of joining another radio control club, but they very recently
moved to a new location, and I am not quite sure how to find
it. The new flying field was on the way home. I want to look
at this new facility before even contacting them about
membership.
I needed directions. Let's see if Siri or Google Maps can
find the new site.
Let's give Siri a try first!
I say Hey Siri, Nearest RC club Noblesville Indiana Up pops
only
And once again, you say a plain address to Siri...
...not "Navigate to" or "Driving directions to".
I just trying saying "navigate to nest rc club noblesville
indiana" and it worked on the first try.
And this, Little Shit.Screaming Eagles, Plainfield IN, on the southwest side ofOn Olio Road, right?
Indianapolis. The one I wanted is the NeST club northeast of
Noblesville and Indianapolis. The two are about 40 miles
apart. What a farce. Can't find it at all.
Found it!
And this, Little Shit."Hey Siri, Google Maps" would work also.
Let's give Google Maps a chance.
I say Hey Siri, Hey Google, Google Maps. Up pops Google Maps
(contrary to Alan Baker's claim this does not work.).
And address why you still misuse a general purpose digital
One of Siri's features is launching apps.
Press the Mic icon, say Nearest RC"nest"
club Noblesville, select the first one Northeast TaildraggersAnd once again, you speak a location with no preamble to a
aka NeST: https://www.nest-rc.org/ (site is not fully updated
for the new location)
general purpose app...
...(when you've been told it won't work and why)...
...and compare that to pressing a microphone button in a field
that is explicitly asking you for a location.
assistant...
...after having been told MULTIPLE times how you're supposed to use
it.
But my PHONE has Siri, and Carplay doesn't change how Siri respondsHow long did it take you to contrive this situation?
This is the one I wanted. Google's directions I used
yesterday to find it on the way home from Muncie worked
perfectly.
Screen capture videos:
Siri
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wJPDh_i0dyoyujM-giGCSNAocXJA-6jt/view?usp=sharing
Google Maps
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vU1pO-3ySj0cYvh4SNvPvu_qCjEXRxo8/view?usp=sharing
How many test runs?
Zero test runs. It was not contrived. Try it yourself in your
car, even in CarPlay with Apple Maps in the foreground. Oops, you
can't do that in your car. It does not have CarPlay.
to a general request.
Funny how someone who seems to actually be educated continues to
"misunderstand" simple instructions about how Siri works.
You are wrong.
https://youtu.be/1R7VdYHcmEk
On 2023-06-07 05:19, Thomas E. wrote:
On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 1:21:04 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-06-04 06:57, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 2:32:11 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:Address this fact, Little Shit.
On 2023-05-27 08:01, Thomas E. wrote:
Another Siri failure!
More bullshit from you, you mean.
"nearest", not "NeST"? Interesting.
This actually happened yesterday when I was driving from an AMA Fun >>>>>> Fly event at their Muncie HQ back home. I'm thinking of joining
another radio control club, but they very recently moved to a new
location, and I am not quite sure how to find it. The new flying
field was on the way home. I want to look at this new facility before >>>>>> even contacting them about membership.
I needed directions. Let's see if Siri or Google Maps can find the >>>>>> new site.
Let's give Siri a try first!
I say Hey Siri, Nearest RC club Noblesville Indiana Up pops only
And once again, you say a plain address to Siri...
...not "Navigate to" or "Driving directions to".
I just trying saying "navigate to nest rc club noblesville indiana"
and
it worked on the first try.
And this, Little Shit.Screaming Eagles, Plainfield IN, on the southwest side ofOn Olio Road, right?
Indianapolis. The one I wanted is the NeST club northeast of
Noblesville and Indianapolis. The two are about 40 miles apart. What >>>>>> a farce. Can't find it at all.
Found it!
And this, Little Shit."Hey Siri, Google Maps" would work also.
Let's give Google Maps a chance.
I say Hey Siri, Hey Google, Google Maps. Up pops Google Maps
(contrary to Alan Baker's claim this does not work.).
And address why you still misuse a general purpose digital assistant...
One of Siri's features is launching apps.
Press the Mic"nest"
icon, say Nearest RC
club Noblesville, select the first one NortheastAnd once again, you speak a location with no preamble to a general
Taildraggers aka NeST: https://www.nest-rc.org/ (site is not fully >>>>>> updated for the new location)
purpose app...
...(when you've been told it won't work and why)...
...and compare that to pressing a microphone button in a field that is >>>>> explicitly asking you for a location.
...after having been told MULTIPLE times how you're supposed to use it. >>>>>>
But my PHONE has Siri, and Carplay doesn't change how Siri responds to a >>> general request.This is the one I wanted. Google's directions I used yesterday toHow long did it take you to contrive this situation?
find it on the way home from Muncie worked perfectly.
Screen capture videos:
Siri
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wJPDh_i0dyoyujM-giGCSNAocXJA-6jt/view?usp=sharing
Google Maps
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vU1pO-3ySj0cYvh4SNvPvu_qCjEXRxo8/view?usp=sharing
How many test runs?
Zero test runs. It was not contrived. Try it yourself in your car,
even in CarPlay with Apple Maps in the foreground. Oops, you can't
do that in your car. It does not have CarPlay.
Funny how someone who seems to actually be educated continues to
"misunderstand" simple instructions about how Siri works.
You are wrong.
https://youtu.be/1R7VdYHcmEk
Well, I've got a few spare moments this morning, and with the assistance
of YouTube's closed captioning and speeding up the video, this should
take to look.
I'll just point out the errors:
Saying "Hey Siri"
You said "Hey Siri, Apple Maps" and up popped... ...Apple Maps. This
shows the general purpose nature of the "Hey Siri" phrase.
Then you said "Hey Siri, northeast taildraggers R/C aviation club" and
since you used the general purpose phrase, how was the system supposed
to know that what you were providing was a location? And before you say, "Because Apple Maps was in the foreground" remember that the phrase "Hey Siri" is intended to let you do far more than find addresses.
"OK, can't find Northeast taildraggers"
Then you do tap on the location field in Apple Maps...
...and then you type it...
...but you amazingly want it to be able to find a place that isn't
called "Northeast Taildraggers R/C Aviation Club" but rather
"NortheastSIDE Taildraggers R/C Aviation Club". Interesting that this
place is so important to you that you don't even know what it's actually called.
"Apple doesn't have its own search engine"
You don't understand a bit of this.
Apple's location database doesn't happen to contain "Northeastside Taildraggers RC Aviation Club". That's all.
But try:
"Hey Siri, directions to nest rc, noblesville"
That works from Vancouver, Little Shit.
And wonder of wonders, if you look at their website, it's what it says:
"NeST-RC" <https://www.nest-rc.org>
"hey siri, hey google"
Carplay is just another interface to your phone that is optimized for
driving tasks. When you say "hey siri, hey google" the system is
(probably) interpreting that as a request to search Google and get web results. Something that is obviously not appropriate to do while driving
a car.
"one two nine nine nine"
Try directions to "Manor care". It's shorter.
On 2023-06-07 05:19, Thomas E. wrote:
On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 1:21:04 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-06-04 06:57, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 2:32:11 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:Address this fact, Little Shit.
On 2023-05-27 08:01, Thomas E. wrote:
Another Siri failure!
More bullshit from you, you mean.
"nearest", not "NeST"? Interesting.
This actually happened yesterday when I was driving from an AMA Fun >>>>>> Fly event at their Muncie HQ back home. I'm thinking of joining
another radio control club, but they very recently moved to a new
location, and I am not quite sure how to find it. The new flying
field was on the way home. I want to look at this new facility before >>>>>> even contacting them about membership.
I needed directions. Let's see if Siri or Google Maps can find the >>>>>> new site.
Let's give Siri a try first!
I say Hey Siri, Nearest RC club Noblesville Indiana Up pops only
And once again, you say a plain address to Siri...
...not "Navigate to" or "Driving directions to".
I just trying saying "navigate to nest rc club noblesville indiana"
and
it worked on the first try.
And this, Little Shit.Screaming Eagles, Plainfield IN, on the southwest side ofOn Olio Road, right?
Indianapolis. The one I wanted is the NeST club northeast of
Noblesville and Indianapolis. The two are about 40 miles apart. What >>>>>> a farce. Can't find it at all.
Found it!
And this, Little Shit."Hey Siri, Google Maps" would work also.
Let's give Google Maps a chance.
I say Hey Siri, Hey Google, Google Maps. Up pops Google Maps
(contrary to Alan Baker's claim this does not work.).
And address why you still misuse a general purpose digital assistant...
One of Siri's features is launching apps.
Press the Mic"nest"
icon, say Nearest RC
club Noblesville, select the first one NortheastAnd once again, you speak a location with no preamble to a general
Taildraggers aka NeST: https://www.nest-rc.org/ (site is not fully >>>>>> updated for the new location)
purpose app...
...(when you've been told it won't work and why)...
...and compare that to pressing a microphone button in a field that is >>>>> explicitly asking you for a location.
...after having been told MULTIPLE times how you're supposed to use it. >>>>>>
But my PHONE has Siri, and Carplay doesn't change how Siri responds to a >>> general request.This is the one I wanted. Google's directions I used yesterday toHow long did it take you to contrive this situation?
find it on the way home from Muncie worked perfectly.
Screen capture videos:
Siri
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wJPDh_i0dyoyujM-giGCSNAocXJA-6jt/view?usp=sharing
Google Maps
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vU1pO-3ySj0cYvh4SNvPvu_qCjEXRxo8/view?usp=sharing
How many test runs?
Zero test runs. It was not contrived. Try it yourself in your car,
even in CarPlay with Apple Maps in the foreground. Oops, you can't
do that in your car. It does not have CarPlay.
Funny how someone who seems to actually be educated continues to
"misunderstand" simple instructions about how Siri works.
You are wrong.
https://youtu.be/1R7VdYHcmEk
Well, I've got a few spare moments this morning, and with the assistance
of YouTube's closed captioning and speeding up the video, this should
take to look.
I'll just point out the errors:
Saying "Hey Siri"
You said "Hey Siri, Apple Maps" and up popped... ...Apple Maps. This
shows the general purpose nature of the "Hey Siri" phrase.
Then you said "Hey Siri, northeast taildraggers R/C aviation club" and
since you used the general purpose phrase, how was the system supposed
to know that what you were providing was a location? And before you say, "Because Apple Maps was in the foreground" remember that the phrase "Hey Siri" is intended to let you do far more than find addresses.
"OK, can't find Northeast taildraggers"
Then you do tap on the location field in Apple Maps...
...and then you type it...
...but you amazingly want it to be able to find a place that isn't
called "Northeast Taildraggers R/C Aviation Club" but rather
"NortheastSIDE Taildraggers R/C Aviation Club". Interesting that this
place is so important to you that you don't even know what it's actually called.
"Apple doesn't have its own search engine"
You don't understand a bit of this.
Apple's location database doesn't happen to contain "Northeastside Taildraggers RC Aviation Club". That's all.
But try:
"Hey Siri, directions to nest rc, noblesville"
That works from Vancouver, Little Shit.
And wonder of wonders, if you look at their website, it's what it says:
"NeST-RC" <https://www.nest-rc.org>
"hey siri, hey google"
Carplay is just another interface to your phone that is optimized for
driving tasks. When you say "hey siri, hey google" the system is
(probably) interpreting that as a request to search Google and get web results. Something that is obviously not appropriate to do while driving
a car.
"one two nine nine nine"
Try directions to "Manor care". It's shorter.
On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 1:21:04 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-06-04 06:57, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 2:32:11 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:Address this fact, Little Shit.
On 2023-05-27 08:01, Thomas E. wrote:
Another Siri failure!
More bullshit from you, you mean.
"nearest", not "NeST"? Interesting.
This actually happened yesterday when I was driving from an AMA Fun
Fly event at their Muncie HQ back home. I'm thinking of joining
another radio control club, but they very recently moved to a new
location, and I am not quite sure how to find it. The new flying
field was on the way home. I want to look at this new facility before >>>>> even contacting them about membership.
I needed directions. Let's see if Siri or Google Maps can find the
new site.
Let's give Siri a try first!
I say Hey Siri, Nearest RC club Noblesville Indiana Up pops only
And once again, you say a plain address to Siri...
...not "Navigate to" or "Driving directions to".
I just trying saying "navigate to nest rc club noblesville indiana" and >>>> it worked on the first try.
And this, Little Shit.Screaming Eagles, Plainfield IN, on the southwest side ofOn Olio Road, right?
Indianapolis. The one I wanted is the NeST club northeast of
Noblesville and Indianapolis. The two are about 40 miles apart. What >>>>> a farce. Can't find it at all.
Found it!
And this, Little Shit."Hey Siri, Google Maps" would work also.
Let's give Google Maps a chance.
I say Hey Siri, Hey Google, Google Maps. Up pops Google Maps
(contrary to Alan Baker's claim this does not work.).
And address why you still misuse a general purpose digital assistant...
One of Siri's features is launching apps.
Press the Mic"nest"
icon, say Nearest RC
club Noblesville, select the first one NortheastAnd once again, you speak a location with no preamble to a general
Taildraggers aka NeST: https://www.nest-rc.org/ (site is not fully
updated for the new location)
purpose app...
...(when you've been told it won't work and why)...
...and compare that to pressing a microphone button in a field that is >>>> explicitly asking you for a location.
...after having been told MULTIPLE times how you're supposed to use it. >>>>>
But my PHONE has Siri, and Carplay doesn't change how Siri responds to aThis is the one I wanted. Google's directions I used yesterday toHow long did it take you to contrive this situation?
find it on the way home from Muncie worked perfectly.
Screen capture videos:
Siri
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wJPDh_i0dyoyujM-giGCSNAocXJA-6jt/view?usp=sharing
Google Maps
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vU1pO-3ySj0cYvh4SNvPvu_qCjEXRxo8/view?usp=sharing
How many test runs?
Zero test runs. It was not contrived. Try it yourself in your car, even in CarPlay with Apple Maps in the foreground. Oops, you can't do that in your car. It does not have CarPlay.
general request.
Funny how someone who seems to actually be educated continues to
"misunderstand" simple instructions about how Siri works.
You are wrong.
https://youtu.be/1R7VdYHcmEk
| Sysop: | Keyop |
|---|---|
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| Users: | 307 |
| Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
| Uptime: | 75:31:20 |
| Calls: | 6,915 |
| Files: | 12,382 |
| Messages: | 5,432,543 |