My claim is "most" modern phones have at least a 4-1/2 hour battery nowadays (and as a result, a phone that does not is downright primitive in terms of modern battery technology - and yes - packaging is a technology component).
I just ran this search where they only allow even numbers so I set the
search to 4.4Ah (instead of to 4.5Ah) & allowed all phones in 2021 & 2022. <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2021&nBatCapacityMin=4400>
That shows 485 phones since 2021 with battery capacity of 4.4Ah or greater.
People who claim Apple iPhones aren't primitive - feel free to run the
search (and feel free to run a _different_ search because almost any search you run will prove that iPhones are a primitive technology in 2021/2022).
At least in terms of battery technology (which certainly includes the form factor, especially as Apple widely touts their BS battery form factors).
This is a cut-and-paste of the top 70 shown in the first page results:
Realme GT Neo3 Android 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A53 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A73 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A33 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 1024GB, 12GB RAM Xiaomi 12 Pro Android - 4600 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A52s 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi K50 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro+ 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM Realme Narzo 50A Prime Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi K50 Android - 5500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi 12 Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco X4 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro Android - 5020 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy S21 FE 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Honor Magic4 Ultimate Android - 4600 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A32 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Oppo A96 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy F23 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Xiaomi 12X Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco F3 Android - 4520 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Realme GT2 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro Android - 5160 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A52 Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi K40S Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
OnePlus 10 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy S22+ 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco M4 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
OnePlus Nord CE 2 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
vivo iQOO Z6 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A22 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Xiaomi 11T Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 16GB RAM Xiaomi Redmi 10C Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
Realme 9 Pro+ Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Oppo Find X5 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Google Pixel 6 Pro Android - 5003 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Realme 9 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A03 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
Xiaomi 11T Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 10S Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Oppo K10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Google Pixel 6 Android - 4614 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A23 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A22 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A13 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy M52 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A03s Android - 5000 mAh battery, 64GB, 4GB RAM
Oppo Reno7 Z 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
OnePlus Nord 2 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Oppo Reno7 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A72 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A32 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Motorola Edge 30 Pro Android - 4800 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi 10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi K50 Gaming Android - 4700 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11S Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Realme 9i Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Oppo Reno7 Pro 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco M4 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
OnePlus 9 Pro Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Infinix Note 11 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Sony Xperia Pro-I Android - 4500 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A52 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy M33 Android - 6000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Realme 9 5G Speed Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Wow. That's interesting. Not a _single_ Apple iPhone in those results.
Now I know why the Apple people don't like this fact about Apple iPhones.
My claim is "most" modern phones have at least a 4-1/2 hour battery
nowadays
(and as a result, a phone that does not is downright primitive in terms of modern battery technology - and yes - packaging is a technology component).
I just ran this search where they only allow even numbers so I set the
search to 4.4Ah (instead of to 4.5Ah) & allowed all phones in 2021 & 2022. <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2021&nBatCapacityMin=4400>
That shows 485 phones since 2021 with battery capacity of 4.4Ah or greater.
People who claim Apple iPhones aren't primitive - feel free to run the
search (and feel free to run a _different_ search because almost any search you run will prove that iPhones are a primitive technology in 2021/2022).
At least in terms of battery technology (which certainly includes the form factor, especially as Apple widely touts their BS battery form factors).
This is a cut-and-paste of the top 70 shown in the first page results:
Wow. That's interesting. Not a _single_ Apple iPhone in those results.
Now I know why the Apple people don't like this fact about Apple iPhones.
Your focus started on battery life — 4.5 hours.
On 3/23/2022 9:59 AM, Snit wrote:
<snip>
Your focus started on battery life — 4.5 hours.
I noticed that too, but I think that he just forgot to put in "Amp-"
before "hours," or he may not understand how batteries are rated for
capacity (though the more common error is to use "Amps" without hours).
And of course this assumes single-cell batteries. Some flagship phones
are now using two-cell batteries so then you really want to use WH if
the cells are discharged in series (Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra).
Your focus started on battery life ¡X 4.5 hours.
I noticed that too, but I think that he just forgot to put in "Amp-"
before "hours," or he may not understand how batteries are rated for
capacity (though the more common error is to use "Amps" without hours).
sms wrote:
Your focus started on battery life �X 4.5 hours.
I noticed that too, but I think that he just forgot to put in "Amp-"
before "hours," or he may not understand how batteries are rated for
capacity (though the more common error is to use "Amps" without hours).
Thank you Steve for pointing this out as I don't see any posts but yours. (The only people I have in my killfiles are Snit, Alan Baker, Rod Speed, Dustin Cook, et. al, so _you_ are not in my killfile & you never will be).
Since my graduate work is also in electrical engineering (it's far more complicated than that but that's good enough for this purpose) much like
your undergraduate EE degree, rest assured it was simply a typo (I didn't even look back as I _was_ talking only about battery Amp-hour ratings).
Battery-life tests are a completely different component (in many ways).
For example, given Apple touts their battery form factors, and given we are all well aware Apple cheaped out on battery materials in the iPhone 12, and given it appears Apple doesn't have a single modern-sized battery yet in
any
iPhone, what would be interesting is to find out if Apple makes even a _single_ iPhone that has a 4-1/2 Amp-hour rated battery in _any_ iPhone.
Even so, I will agree ahead of time that the Amp-hour rating isn't as important as how long the battery lasts in typical use but we all have
to realize that it's a fact nobody on the planet has ever independently replicated Apple's overly inflated battery life tests in any known report.
nospam wrote:
Since my graduate work is also in electrical engineering (it's far more
complicated than that but that's good enough for this purpose)
for graduate work, is a telephoto lens used take photos of textbooks?
 *What's your college undergraduate degree in nospam?*
Since my graduate work is also in electrical engineering (it's far more complicated than that but that's good enough for this purpose)
Since my graduate work is also in electrical engineering (it's far more
complicated than that but that's good enough for this purpose)
for graduate work, is a telephoto lens used take photos of textbooks?
We may as well remove the Apple newsgroups as this thread is about
the sheer
joy of owning a _modern_ phone (which all have huge batteries
nowadays).
We may as well remove the Apple newsgroups as this thread is about the sheer joy of owning a _modern_ phone (which all have huge batteries nowadays).
My fault.
I hadn't realized primitive iPhones don't have modern battery technology.
Searching only modern 2022 phones show _zero_ iPhones in those results. <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2022&nBatCapacityMin=4400>
That shows 99 modern phones with huge batteries, literally _zero_ of which are the primitive iPhones that _still_ ship with archaic battery technology.
Below are the first 70 in that list of almost 100 modern phones which nowadays have _huge_ batteries (and many come with fast chargers too).
*6000 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi 10 (India) - 128 GB storage, 6 GB RAM
*6000 mAh* Samsung Galaxy M33 - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5600 mAh* Lenovo Legion Y90 - 640 GB storage, 18 GB RAM
*5500 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi K50 - 256 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*5160 mAh* Xiaomi 11i - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5050 mAh* Nokia G21 - 128 GB storage, 6 GB RAM
*5050 mAh* Nokia G11 - 32 GB storage, 3 GB RAM
*5050 mAh* Nokia C21 Plus - 64 GB storage, 4 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* vivo iQOO Z6 - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* vivo T1 5G - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* ZTE nubia Z40 Pro - 1024 GB storage, 16 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* ZTE nubia Red Magic 7 Pro - 1024 GB storage, 16 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi Note 11S - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi Note 11E Pro - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi Note 11E - 128 GB storage, 6 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro+ 5G (India) - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM *5000 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro 5G - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 - 128 GB storage, 6 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi K50 Pro - 512 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi 10C - 128 GB storage, 4 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi 10 2022 - 128 GB storage, 4 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Xiaomi Poco X4 Pro 5G - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Xiaomi Poco M4 Pro - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Tecno Spark 8C - 64 GB storage, 4 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 5G - 1024 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Samsung Galaxy M23 - 128 GB storage, 4 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Samsung Galaxy F23 - 128 GB storage, 6 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Samsung Galaxy A73 5G - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Samsung Galaxy A53 5G - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Samsung Galaxy A33 5G - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Samsung Galaxy A23 - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Samsung Galaxy A13 - 128 GB storage, 6 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Realme Narzo 50A Prime - 128 GB storage, 4 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Realme Narzo 50 - 128 GB storage, 6 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Realme GT2 Pro - 512 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Realme GT2 - 256 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Realme GT Neo3 - 256 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Realme C35 - 128 GB storage, 6 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Realme 9i - 128 GB storage, 6 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Realme 9 Pro - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Realme 9 5G Speed - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Realme 9 5G - 128 GB storage, 6 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Oppo K10 - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Oppo Find X5 Pro - 512 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Oppo A96 - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Oppo A76 - 128 GB storage, 6 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* OnePlus 10 Pro - 512 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Motorola Moto G22 - 64 GB storage, 4 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Motorola Moto G Stylus (2022) - 128 GB storage, 6 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Infinix Zero 5G - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*4800 mAh* Oppo Find X5 - 256 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*4800 mAh* Motorola Edge 30 Pro - 512 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*4800 mAh* Honor Magic4 - 512 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*4700 mAh* vivo iQOO 9 Pro - 512 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*4700 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi K50 Gaming - 256 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*4600 mAh* Honor Magic4 Ultimate - 512 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*4600 mAh* Honor Magic4 Pro - 512 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*4500 mAh* vivo iQOO 9 SE - 256 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*4500 mAh* ZTE nubia Red Magic 7 - 512 GB storage, 18 GB RAM
*4500 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi K40S - 256 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*4500 mAh* Xiaomi 11i HyperCharge 5G - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*4500 mAh* Samsung Galaxy S22+ 5G - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*4500 mAh* Samsung Galaxy S21 FE 5G - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*4500 mAh* Realme 9 Pro+ - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*4500 mAh* Oppo Reno7 Z 5G - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*4500 mAh* Oppo Reno7 5G - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*4500 mAh* Oppo Find X5 Lite - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*4500 mAh* Oppo A96 (China) - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*4500 mAh* OnePlus Nord CE 2 5G - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
Gone is the primitive approach iPhones use of nightly charging cycles.
That's one reason I absolutely _love_ my huge-battery 2021 free phone!
Hank Rogers wrote:If the ikooks tormented me as much as they torment you, I would
That's a great idea. When will you get around to removing yourself?
I have _both_ iOS and Android devices,
That's a great idea. When will you get around to removing yourself?
If the ikooks tormented me as much as they torment you.
Hank Rogers wrote:
That's a great idea. When will you get around to removing yourself?
I have _both_ iOS and Android devices, which is different from you iKooks, particularly the IQ 40 morons like Snit who make those hilarious videos.
We may as well remove the Apple newsgroups
We may as well remove the Apple newsgroups
If only...
Chris wrote:
We may as well remove the Apple newsgroups
If only...
Hi there Chris,
You _wish_ I stopped telling the truth about Apple.
In fact, you _hate_ me _because_ I tell the truth about Apple.
As the truth, to people who own imaginary belief systems, is dangerous. Apple: Santa Claus exists
Truth: No kids, he doesn't
The fact remains that _all_ the modern phones have huge batteries nowadays which negate the archaic need to charge nightly (which iPhones require).
Andy Burnelli wrote:
Hank Rogers wrote:If the ikooks tormented me as much as they torment you, I would
That's a great idea. When will you get around to removing yourself?
I have _both_ iOS and Android devices,
throw that damn iphones away! And get the hell out of here, as well.
After all, you're a super intelligent, highly educated adult, right?
On 25/03/2022 14:36, Andy Burnelli wrote:
Chris wrote:
We may as well remove the Apple newsgroups
If only...
Hi there Chris,
You _wish_ I stopped telling the truth about Apple.
In fact, you _hate_ me _because_ I tell the truth about Apple.
You have a very odd relationship with the truth. It's like some distant cousin that you remember meeting at an aged aunt's funeral years ago.
As the truth, to people who own imaginary belief systems, is dangerous.
Apple: Santa Claus exists
Truth: No kids, he doesn't
The fact remains that _all_ the modern phones have huge batteries
nowadays
which negate the archaic need to charge nightly (which iPhones require).
You're completely focused on capacity where the user only really cares
about time. Which in actual fact has gone backwards over the last 20
years. Mobile phones used to last for days and weeks with tiny capacity batteries.
Nowadays phones have massively battery capacity but only mediocre time usability. Even your so-called "modern" ones. I would love to only need
to charge my phone once a week as I did with my first mobiles.
What he seems to forget with his average intelligence is that ~50% of
people are more intelligent than him. It shows.
Chris wrote:
You have a very odd relationship with the truth. It's like some
distant cousin that you remember meeting at an aged aunt's funeral
years ago.
Hi Chris,
What all you low-IQ low-self-esteem uneducated iKooks hate are the facts.
Here's a truthful result which you can't hope to match with your primitive archaic iPhones that never have modern battery technology (and it shows). <https://i.postimg.cc/W1D9dNqw/charging11.jpg> modern charge = 2 hours
My _free_ phone has a huge battery, and as a direct result:
a. It lasts forever
b. It doesn't need nightly charging
c. It charges completely in about two hours
The iPhone, in contrast:
a. Barely lasts a day
b. Requires nightly charge cycles
c. Doesn't even come with a charger, let alone a fast charger
As the truth, to people who own imaginary belief systems, is dangerous.
Apple: Santa Claus exists
Truth: No kids, he doesn't
The fact remains that _all_ the modern phones have huge batteries
nowadays
which negate the archaic need to charge nightly (which iPhones require).
You're completely focused on capacity where the user only really cares
about time. Which in actual fact has gone backwards over the last 20
years. Mobile phones used to last for days and weeks with tiny
capacity batteries.
I'm focused on the fact you're stuck with archaic nightly charge cycles.
While my iPhone is stuck on the bedstand, my Android charges in two hours! <https://i.postimg.cc/T1CkDhcC/charging12.jpg> modern charge = 2 hours
Nowadays phones have massively battery capacity but only mediocre time
usability. Even your so-called "modern" ones. I would love to only
need to charge my phone once a week as I did with my first mobiles.
The fact remains that _all_ modern phones have huge batteries nowadays:
*Gone are the primitive need for archaic nightly charge cycles*
Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
If the ikooks tormented me as much as they torment you, I would throw
that damn iphones away! And get the hell out of here, as well.
After all, you're a super intelligent, highly educated adult, right?
No, no! You got it ask wrong. He's only got average intelligence - he
said so many times - and even he, the mere mortal that he is, can see
the GAPING FLAWS in all things Apple.
What he seems to forget with his average intelligence is that ~50% of
people are more intelligent than him. It shows.
You have a very odd relationship with the truth. It's like some distant cousin that you remember meeting at an aged aunt's funeral years ago.
As the truth, to people who own imaginary belief systems, is dangerous.
Apple: Santa Claus exists
Truth: No kids, he doesn't
The fact remains that _all_ the modern phones have huge batteries nowadays >> which negate the archaic need to charge nightly (which iPhones require).
You're completely focused on capacity where the user only really cares
about time. Which in actual fact has gone backwards over the last 20
years. Mobile phones used to last for days and weeks with tiny capacity batteries.
Nowadays phones have massively battery capacity but only mediocre time usability. Even your so-called "modern" ones. I would love to only need
to charge my phone once a week as I did with my first mobiles.
On 2022-03-25 8:18 a.m., Chris wrote:
Nowadays phones have massively battery capacity but only mediocre
time usability. Even your so-called "modern" ones. I would love to
only need to charge my phone once a week as I did with my first
mobiles.
Personally, I've never seen the big deal with charging every night.
You have to sleep, don't you?
Indeed. I throw mine on the charger beside my bed each night regardless
of how low the battery happens to be. I don't even think about charging
it anymore - it's just routine. Would I love it if a single charge
lasted multiple days? Sure. Is it an actual problem that it doesn't?
Nope.
What he seems to forget with his average intelligence is that ~50% of
people are more intelligent than him. It shows.
Really?? Haven't you seen his photos of old books?!
Personally, I've never seen the big deal with charging every night.
You have to sleep, don't you?
Jolly Roger wrote:
What he seems to forget with his average intelligence is that ~50% of
people are more intelligent than him. It shows.
Really?? Haven't you seen his photos of old books?!
The fact remains that the iPhone uses outdated archaic battery technology. <https://i.postimg.cc/T1CkDhcC/charging12.jpg> modern charge = 2 hours
In 2022, *all modern phones now come with huge batteries* which inherently allow for long life, both in terms of daily use, and in terms of lifetime.
By way of stark comparison, the iPhone is downright archaically
primitive. In addition, many modern phones now come with free modern
fast chargers.
As a fact which will make you iKooks cry in shame, my _free_ phone (which
has far more app functionality than the most expensive iPhone ever sold), charged today from to full in under two hours (a test I promised
yesterday).
And yet, the iPhone is _always_ needing to be recharged every damn night. It's yet another proof of how archaically primitive iPhone technology is.
Jolly Roger wrote:
Indeed. I throw mine on the charger beside my bed each night regardless
of how low the battery happens to be. I don't even think about charging
it anymore - it's just routine. Would I love it if a single charge
lasted multiple days? Sure. Is it an actual problem that it doesn't?
Nope.
*The point of this thread is to show how _primitive_ iPhone technology is.* And you agreed with that point by what you say is your primitive use model.
The fact is I too used the primitive archaic stone-age methods you did, JR. But no more.
I _love_ my phone with the huge battery and the fast charger, Jolly Roger. I'm not stuck in the Stone Age of battery technology like all iPhones are.
*All modern smartphones come with huge batteries & many with fast
chargers*.
The instant I had a _modern_ phone with a _huge_ battery and a free fast charger that came in the box, I realized what a boon it is to be set free.
Gone are those stone-age days where you have to do what _you_ have to do.
The rest of us have a phone that lasts for days & charges almost instantly.
The time I really notice the battery issue is when I'm traveling outside
the U.S., walking around, taking buses and subways, and being gone from
the hotel all day. I'm typically using apps like Moovit, All Trails, and other mapping apps. A 12-16 hour day of that is too much for most
phones, including ones with our favorite troll's "massive batteries" so
I take along a back-up battery pack. In the olden days I'd just take
along a spare battery for the phone.
sms wrote:
The time I really notice the battery issue is when I'm traveling
outside the U.S., walking around, taking buses and subways, and being
gone from the hotel all day. I'm typically using apps like Moovit, All
Trails, and other mapping apps. A 12-16 hour day of that is too much
for most phones, including ones with our favorite troll's "massive
batteries" so I take along a back-up battery pack. In the olden days
I'd just take along a spare battery for the phone.
What Steve is clearly ignorant of is the two hour charging times. <https://i.postimg.cc/T1CkDhcC/charging12.jpg> modern charge = 2 hours
On 2022-03-25 8:18 a.m., Chris wrote:
On 25/03/2022 14:36, Andy Burnelli wrote:
Chris wrote:
We may as well remove the Apple newsgroups
If only...
Hi there Chris,
You _wish_ I stopped telling the truth about Apple.
In fact, you _hate_ me _because_ I tell the truth about Apple.
You have a very odd relationship with the truth. It's like some distant
cousin that you remember meeting at an aged aunt's funeral years ago.
As the truth, to people who own imaginary belief systems, is dangerous.
Apple: Santa Claus exists
Truth: No kids, he doesn't
The fact remains that _all_ the modern phones have huge batteries nowadays >>> which negate the archaic need to charge nightly (which iPhones require).
You're completely focused on capacity where the user only really cares
about time. Which in actual fact has gone backwards over the last 20
years. Mobile phones used to last for days and weeks with tiny capacity
batteries.
Nowadays phones have massively battery capacity but only mediocre time
usability. Even your so-called "modern" ones. I would love to only need
to charge my phone once a week as I did with my first mobiles.
Personally, I've never seen the big deal with charging every night.
You have to sleep, don't you?
:-)
The time I really notice the battery issue is when I'm traveling outside
the U.S., walking around, taking buses and subways, and being gone from
the hotel all day. I'm typically using apps like Moovit, All Trails, and other mapping apps. A 12-16 hour day of that is too much for most
phones, including ones with our favorite troll's "massive batteries" so
I take along a back-up battery pack. In the olden days I'd just take
along a spare battery for the phone.
Nowadays phones have massively battery capacity but only mediocre time usability. Even your so-called "modern" ones. I would love to only need
to charge my phone once a week as I did with my first mobiles.
On 25 Mar 2022, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:
The time I really notice the battery issue is when I'm traveling outside
the U.S., walking around, taking buses and subways, and being gone from
the hotel all day.
How much would it cost you to buy the Apple fast charger for your iPhone?
On 3/25/2022 4:26 PM, Nil wrote:
On 25 Mar 2022, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in
misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:
The time I really notice the battery issue is when I'm traveling outside >>> the U.S., walking around, taking buses and subways, and being gone from
the hotel all day.
How much would it cost you to buy the Apple fast charger for your iPhone?
I have plenty of fast chargers, both QC and PD. but that's immaterial
when you're away from mains power for the whole day.
Last time I ran into this was pre-pandemic, in 2019, in Europe and Asia.
In two cities I was away from the hotel from early morning to late at
night and I was using the phone a lot for navigation and web browsing
and needed to charge during the day.
Fortunately, most airplanes now have power outlets, USB, AC, or both,
even in coach.
Even a 1A/5W charger is enough to charge a phone overnight.
if battery life is what you want, there are still flip phones
and candy bar phones available.
nospam wrote:
if battery life is what you want, there are still flip phones
and candy bar phones available.
Hi nospam,
I suspect your IQ is too low for you to correctly answer this question, but I'll ask since you claim to know why Apple puts archaic outdated technology in the iPhone.
Why do _you_ think that all iPhones come with grossly substandard battery & charging technology?
HINT: Apple's "profits" are huge.
The time I really notice the battery issue is when I'm traveling outside
the U.S., walking around, taking buses and subways, and being gone from
the hotel all day.
Even a 1A/5W charger is enough to charge a phone overnight.
Even a 1A/5W charger is enough to charge a phone overnight.
exactly why it's not an issue.
Even a 1A/5W charger is enough to charge a phone overnight.I have an older iPhone and it works. End of story.
On 25 Mar 2022, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:
Even a 1A/5W charger is enough to charge a phone overnight.
exactly why it's not an issue.
When did Apple start selling the iPhone 12 fast charger in the Apple stores?
On 25 Mar 2022, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:
Even a 1A/5W charger is enough to charge a phone overnight.
exactly why it's not an issue.
When did Apple start selling the iPhone 12 fast charger in the Apple stores?
On 25 Mar 2022, *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote in misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:
Even a 1A/5W charger is enough to charge a phone overnight.I have an older iPhone and it works. End of story.
What did Apple Stores do with non Apple fast chargers just months
before the iPhone 12 was released in those same Apple stores?
On 25 Mar 2022, *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote in misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:
Even a 1A/5W charger is enough to charge a phone overnight.I have an older iPhone and it works. End of story.
What did Apple Stores do with non Apple fast chargers just months
before the iPhone 12 was released in those same Apple stores?
*Hemidactylus* wrote:
Do you masturbate fantasizing over the demise of Apple and licking up the
tears of the fanbois? I ask because anyone who posts as much as you about
hatred of a mobile operating system must be into some really messed up
shit.
hehhehheh... you ignorant low-IQ iKooks get _everything_ dead wrong.
I don't hate Apple as I probably buy more Apple devices than you do.
You low-IQ low-self-esteem uneducated iKooks interest me much as a lowly ant under a magnifying glass interests some people who tower over them.
What you _hate_ is when I bring the magnifying glass to the facts.
You _hate_ all facts about Apple.
It's no different than if you still believe in Santa Claus.
Hence, you'd _hate_ all facts that prove Santa is a marketing gimmick.
It's the same with you low-IQ no-education low-esteem iKooks Hemidactylus.
I study you low-IQ low-self-esteem no-education iKooks Hemidactylus.
Just as Dunning & Kruger studied the low-IQ lemon-juice bank robber.
Having been educated at the finest schools in the country, I have never met, personally and in the flesh, people of such low IQ as you iKooks clearly
are.
Not a single one of you iKooks has so much as an undergraduate education. Most of you didn't even graduate from high school, Hemidactylus.
And yet, you uneducated iKooks thrive on Usenet.
Do you know why?
I do.
Hence that's why I asked nospam the logical question any person would ask:
*Why do _you_ think that all iPhones come with grossly*
*substandard archaic battery & laughable charging technology?*
Do you masturbate fantasizing over the demise of Apple and licking up the tears of the fanbois? I ask because anyone who posts as much as you about hatred of a mobile operating system must be into some really messed up
shit.
Even a 1A/5W charger is enough to charge a phone overnight.
*Hemidactylus* wrote:
Do you masturbate fantasizing over the demise of Apple and licking up the
tears of the fanbois? I ask because anyone who posts as much as you about
hatred of a mobile operating system must be into some really messed up
shit.
hehhehheh... you ignorant low-IQ iKooks get _everything_ dead wrong.
I don't hate Apple as I probably buy more Apple devices than you do.
You low-IQ low-self-esteem uneducated iKooks interest me much as a lowly
ant
under a magnifying glass interests some people who tower over them.
What you _hate_ is when I bring the magnifying glass to the facts.
You _hate_ all facts about Apple.
It's no different than if you still believe in Santa Claus.
Hence, you'd _hate_ all facts that prove Santa is a marketing gimmick.
It's the same with you low-IQ no-education low-esteem iKooks Hemidactylus.
I study you low-IQ low-self-esteem no-education iKooks Hemidactylus.
Just as Dunning & Kruger studied the low-IQ lemon-juice bank robber.
Having been educated at the finest schools in the country, I have never
met,
personally and in the flesh, people of such low IQ as you iKooks clearly
are.
Not a single one of you iKooks has so much as an undergraduate education. Most of you didn't even graduate from high school, Hemidactylus.
And yet, you uneducated iKooks thrive on Usenet.
Do you know why?
I do.
Hence that's why I asked nospam the logical question any person would ask:
 *Why do _you_ think that all iPhones come with grossly*
 *substandard archaic battery & laughable charging technology?*
Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
nospam wrote:
if battery life is what you want, there are still flip phones
and candy bar phones available.
Hi nospam,
I suspect your IQ is too low for you to correctly answer this question, but >> I'll ask since you claim to know why Apple puts archaic outdated technology >> in the iPhone.
Why do _you_ think that all iPhones come with grossly substandard battery & >> charging technology?
HINT: Apple's "profits" are huge.
Do you masturbate fantasizing over the demise of Apple and licking up the tears of the fanbois? I ask because anyone who posts as much as you about hatred of a mobile operating system must be into some really messed up
shit.
This has been covered in detail many times.
I've never seen it, Harry.
The name is Harry. Harry Newton I think. Last I checked anyway.
Well, check with your mom or pop if you don't know for sure.
While we're on the subject, do you ever feel that your mom or dad
could be iKooks, or could have low IQs? Did they ever make you feel
inferior when you were young? Do you hate either of them?
You don't have any children or wife, right Harry?
He seems like a nice fella, and I've asked him a few questions too,
but he never answers. He probably won't answer you either.
Hank Rogers wrote:
He seems like a nice fella, and I've asked him a few questions
too, but he never answers. He probably won't answer you either.
It's all about three things with all you iKooks:
a. Abysmally Low IQ
b. Horribly Low Self Esteem
c. Absolutely No Education
*Those three things are _why_ you're iKooks.*
It's not my fault that all you iKooks have absolutely no education,
is it?
You blame me for your IQ being clearly abysmally low too, but why?
Why is it that _your_ lack of self esteem is, all of a sudden, my
problem?
All you iKooks personalize the fact that the messenger is telling
you that
Santa Claus doesn't exist; but you're _desperate_ to believe that
he does.
You iKooks don't own the adult cognitive skills to realize that the
iPhone
is, by all accounts, mired in the stone age of battery & charger
technology.
Andy Burnelli wrote:
Hank Rogers wrote:
He seems like a nice fella, and I've asked him a few questions
too, but he never answers. He probably won't answer you either.
It's all about three things with all you iKooks:
a. Abysmally Low IQ
b. Horribly Low Self Esteem
c. Absolutely No Education
     *Those three things are _why_ you're iKooks.*
It's not my fault that all you iKooks have absolutely no education,
is it?
You blame me for your IQ being clearly abysmally low too, but why?
Why is it that _your_ lack of self esteem is, all of a sudden, my
problem?
All you iKooks personalize the fact that the messenger is telling
you that
Santa Claus doesn't exist; but you're _desperate_ to believe that
he does.
You iKooks don't own the adult cognitive skills to realize that the
iPhone
is, by all accounts, mired in the stone age of battery & charger
technology.
Eeek! iKooks! iKooks EVERYWHERE!
My claim is "most" modern phones have at least a 4-1/2 hour battery nowadays (and as a result, a phone that does not is downright primitive in terms of modern battery technology - and yes - packaging is a technology component).
I just ran this search where they only allow even numbers so I set the
search to 4.4Ah (instead of to 4.5Ah) & allowed all phones in 2021 & 2022. <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2021&nBatCapacityMin=4400>
That shows 485 phones since 2021 with battery capacity of 4.4Ah or greater.
People who claim Apple iPhones aren't primitive - feel free to run the
search (and feel free to run a _different_ search because almost any search you run will prove that iPhones are a primitive technology in 2021/2022).
At least in terms of battery technology (which certainly includes the form factor, especially as Apple widely touts their BS battery form factors).
This is a cut-and-paste of the top 70 shown in the first page results:
Realme GT Neo3 Android 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A53 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A73 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A33 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 1024GB, 12GB RAM Xiaomi 12 Pro Android - 4600 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A52s 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi K50 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro+ 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM Realme Narzo 50A Prime Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi K50 Android - 5500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi 12 Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco X4 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro Android - 5020 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy S21 FE 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Honor Magic4 Ultimate Android - 4600 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A32 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Oppo A96 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy F23 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Xiaomi 12X Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco F3 Android - 4520 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Realme GT2 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro Android - 5160 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A52 Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi K40S Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
OnePlus 10 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy S22+ 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco M4 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
OnePlus Nord CE 2 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
vivo iQOO Z6 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A22 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Xiaomi 11T Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 16GB RAM Xiaomi Redmi 10C Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
Realme 9 Pro+ Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Oppo Find X5 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Google Pixel 6 Pro Android - 5003 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Realme 9 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A03 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
Xiaomi 11T Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 10S Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Oppo K10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Google Pixel 6 Android - 4614 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A23 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A22 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A13 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy M52 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A03s Android - 5000 mAh battery, 64GB, 4GB RAM
Oppo Reno7 Z 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
OnePlus Nord 2 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Oppo Reno7 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A72 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A32 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Motorola Edge 30 Pro Android - 4800 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi 10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi K50 Gaming Android - 4700 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11S Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Realme 9i Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Oppo Reno7 Pro 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco M4 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
OnePlus 9 Pro Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Infinix Note 11 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Sony Xperia Pro-I Android - 4500 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A52 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy M33 Android - 6000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Realme 9 5G Speed Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Wow. That's interesting. Not a _single_ Apple iPhone in those results.
Now I know why the Apple people don't like this fact about Apple iPhones.
--
I don't care iKooks are child-like with a low-IQ, no education & low self esteem; but due to that, they're so upset that Apple always screws them.
Andy Burnelli wrote:
My claim is "most" modern phones have at least a 4-1/2 hour battery
nowadays
(and as a result, a phone that does not is downright primitive in
terms of
modern battery technology - and yes - packaging is a technology
component).
I just ran this search where they only allow even numbers so I set the
search to 4.4Ah (instead of to 4.5Ah) & allowed all phones in 2021 &
2022.
 <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2021&nBatCapacityMin=4400> >>
That shows 485 phones since 2021 with battery capacity of 4.4Ah or
greater.
People who claim Apple iPhones aren't primitive - feel free to run the
search (and feel free to run a _different_ search because almost any
search
you run will prove that iPhones are a primitive technology in 2021/2022).
At least in terms of battery technology (which certainly includes the
form
factor, especially as Apple widely touts their BS battery form factors).
This is a cut-and-paste of the top 70 shown in the first page results:
 Realme GT Neo3 Android 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A53 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A73 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A33 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 1024GB, 12GB RAM >>  Xiaomi 12 Pro Android - 4600 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A52s 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi K50 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro+ 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Realme Narzo 50A Prime Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi K50 Android - 5500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
 Xiaomi 12 Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
 Xiaomi Poco X4 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro Android - 5020 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy S21 FE 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Honor Magic4 Ultimate Android - 4600 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A32 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Oppo A96 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy F23 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
 Xiaomi 12X Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
 Xiaomi Poco F3 Android - 4520 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Realme GT2 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
 Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro Android - 5160 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A52 Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi K40S Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
 OnePlus 10 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy S22+ 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Xiaomi Poco M4 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 OnePlus Nord CE 2 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 vivo iQOO Z6 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A22 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
 Xiaomi 11T Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 16GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi 10C Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
 Realme 9 Pro+ Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Oppo Find X5 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
 Google Pixel 6 Pro Android - 5003 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
 Realme 9 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A03 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
 Xiaomi 11T Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi Note 10S Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Oppo K10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Google Pixel 6 Android - 4614 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A23 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A22 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A13 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy M52 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A03s Android - 5000 mAh battery, 64GB, 4GB RAM
 Oppo Reno7 Z 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 OnePlus Nord 2 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
 Oppo Reno7 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A72 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A32 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Motorola Edge 30 Pro Android - 4800 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi 10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi K50 Gaming Android - 4700 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi Note 11S Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Realme 9i Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
 Oppo Reno7 Pro 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
 Xiaomi Poco M4 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 OnePlus 9 Pro Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
 Infinix Note 11 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Sony Xperia Pro-I Android - 4500 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A52 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy M33 Android - 6000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Realme 9 5G Speed Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Wow. That's interesting. Not a _single_ Apple iPhone in those results.
Now I know why the Apple people don't like this fact about Apple iPhones.
How long does it take to charge your phone from completely dead to
completely full using the charger that came free with the phone?
All modern phones nowadays have huge batteries and mine is no exception.
I ran a test last night and mine took 2-1/4 hours to go from 0 to 100% <https://i.postimg.cc/zGvhGxSb/charging13.jpg>
Specs:
Free 64 GB 8-core Samsung Galaxy A32-5G with a modern 5 Ah battery
Free 9.0V at 1.67A & 5.0V at 2.0A modern fast charger in the box
Phone purposefully run all day & night with LED flashlight on
until phone shut down indicating 1% battery.
Booted phone at 6:33AM and put on the charger & at 8:45AM today.
The phone said "*Your battery is half charged*" just one hour later.
Another hour & fifteen minutes the phone spoke out that it was full
"*Your battery is now at 100% charge*"
How long does it take _you_ to charge your phone from dead to full?
My claim is "most" modern phones have at least a 4-1/2 hour battery nowadays (and as a result, a phone that does not is downright primitive in terms of modern battery technology - and yes - packaging is a technology component).
I just ran this search where they only allow even numbers so I set the
search to 4.4Ah (instead of to 4.5Ah) & allowed all phones in 2021 & 2022.
<https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2021&nBatCapacityMin=4400>
That shows 485 phones since 2021 with battery capacity of 4.4Ah or greater.
People who claim Apple iPhones aren't primitive - feel free to run the
search (and feel free to run a _different_ search because almost any search you run will prove that iPhones are a primitive technology in 2021/2022).
At least in terms of battery technology (which certainly includes the form factor, especially as Apple widely touts their BS battery form factors).
This is a cut-and-paste of the top 70 shown in the first page results:
Realme GT Neo3 Android 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A53 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A73 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A33 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 1024GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi 12 Pro Android - 4600 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A52s 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi K50 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro+ 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Realme Narzo 50A Prime Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi K50 Android - 5500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi 12 Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco X4 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro Android - 5020 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy S21 FE 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Honor Magic4 Ultimate Android - 4600 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A32 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Oppo A96 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy F23 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Xiaomi 12X Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco F3 Android - 4520 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Realme GT2 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro Android - 5160 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A52 Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi K40S Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
OnePlus 10 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy S22+ 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco M4 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
OnePlus Nord CE 2 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
vivo iQOO Z6 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A22 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Xiaomi 11T Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 16GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi 10C Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
Realme 9 Pro+ Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Oppo Find X5 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Google Pixel 6 Pro Android - 5003 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Realme 9 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A03 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
Xiaomi 11T Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 10S Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Oppo K10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Google Pixel 6 Android - 4614 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A23 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A22 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A13 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy M52 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A03s Android - 5000 mAh battery, 64GB, 4GB RAM
Oppo Reno7 Z 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
OnePlus Nord 2 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Oppo Reno7 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A72 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A32 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Motorola Edge 30 Pro Android - 4800 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi 10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi K50 Gaming Android - 4700 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11S Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Realme 9i Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Oppo Reno7 Pro 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco M4 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
OnePlus 9 Pro Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Infinix Note 11 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Sony Xperia Pro-I Android - 4500 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A52 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy M33 Android - 6000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Realme 9 5G Speed Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Wow. That's interesting. Not a _single_ Apple iPhone in those results.
Now I know why the Apple people don't like this fact about Apple iPhones.
On 2022-04-05 00:10:59 +0000, Alan said:
On 2022-04-04 5:02 p.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
Andy Burnelli wrote:
My claim is "most" modern phones have at least a 4-1/2 hour battery
nowadays (and as a result, a phone that does not is downright
primitive in terms of modern battery technology - and yes -
packaging is a technology component).
I just ran this search where they only allow even numbers so I set the >>>> search to 4.4Ah (instead of to 4.5Ah) & allowed all phones in 2021 &
2022.
 <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2021&nBatCapacityMin=4400>
That shows 485 phones since 2021 with battery capacity of 4.4Ah or
greater.
People who claim Apple iPhones aren't primitive - feel free to run the >>>> search (and feel free to run a _different_ search because almost any
search
you run will prove that iPhones are a primitive technology in
2021/2022).
At least in terms of battery technology (which certainly includes
the form
factor, especially as Apple widely touts their BS battery form
factors).
This is a cut-and-paste of the top 70 shown in the first page results: >>>> Â Realme GT Neo3 Android 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A53 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A73 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A33 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 1024GB,
12GB RAM
 Xiaomi 12 Pro Android - 4600 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A52s 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi K50 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro+ 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB
RAM
 Realme Narzo 50A Prime Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi K50 Android - 5500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
 Xiaomi 12 Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
 Xiaomi Poco X4 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro Android - 5020 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy S21 FE 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM >>>>  Honor Magic4 Ultimate Android - 4600 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A32 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Oppo A96 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy F23 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
 Xiaomi 12X Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
 Xiaomi Poco F3 Android - 4520 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Realme GT2 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
 Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro Android - 5160 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A52 Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi K40S Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
 OnePlus 10 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy S22+ 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Xiaomi Poco M4 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 OnePlus Nord CE 2 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 vivo iQOO Z6 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A22 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
 Xiaomi 11T Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 16GB
RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi 10C Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
 Realme 9 Pro+ Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Oppo Find X5 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
 Google Pixel 6 Pro Android - 5003 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
 Realme 9 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A03 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
 Xiaomi 11T Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi Note 10S Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Oppo K10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Google Pixel 6 Android - 4614 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A23 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A22 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A13 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy M52 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A03s Android - 5000 mAh battery, 64GB, 4GB RAM
 Oppo Reno7 Z 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 OnePlus Nord 2 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
 Oppo Reno7 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A72 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A32 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Motorola Edge 30 Pro Android - 4800 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi 10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi K50 Gaming Android - 4700 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
 Xiaomi Redmi Note 11S Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Realme 9i Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
 Oppo Reno7 Pro 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
 Xiaomi Poco M4 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 OnePlus 9 Pro Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
 Infinix Note 11 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Sony Xperia Pro-I Android - 4500 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy A52 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
 Samsung Galaxy M33 Android - 6000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
 Realme 9 5G Speed Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Wow. That's interesting. Not a _single_ Apple iPhone in those results. >>>> Now I know why the Apple people don't like this fact about Apple
iPhones.
How long does it take to charge your phone from completely dead to
completely full using the charger that came free with the phone?
Interesting how you've had to change your message, isn't it?
Most phones often ship (or in Apple and Samsung's case shipped) with a relatively cheap charger, but you can get a more powerful one that
charges quicker.
All modern phones nowadays have huge batteries and mine is no exception. >>> I ran a test last night and mine took 2-1/4 hours to go from 0 to 100%
<https://i.postimg.cc/zGvhGxSb/charging13.jpg>
So the same as a current iPhone.
Got it.
For those who whine about charging times ...
  "On April 3, 1973, Motorola engineer Martin Cooper made
   the first-ever cell phone call on the DynaTAC 8000X.
   The prototype he used weighed 2.4 lb (1.1 kg) and
   measured 9.1 x 5.1 x 1.8 in (23 x 13 x 4.5 cm). This
   clunky device offered a talk time of just 30 minutes
   and required 10 hours to recharge."
  <https://versus.com/en/news/cell-phone-history>
10 hours for only 30mins use ... that makes the complaints about 2.25
hours charging times pale into near insignificance. :-)
On 2022-04-04 5:02 p.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
Andy Burnelli wrote:
How long does it take to charge your phone from completely dead to
My claim is "most" modern phones have at least a 4-1/2 hour battery
nowadays (and as a result, a phone that does not is downright primitive
in terms of modern battery technology - and yes - packaging is a
technology component).
I just ran this search where they only allow even numbers so I set the
search to 4.4Ah (instead of to 4.5Ah) & allowed all phones in 2021 & 2022. >>> <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2021&nBatCapacityMin=4400> >>>
That shows 485 phones since 2021 with battery capacity of 4.4Ah or greater. >>>
People who claim Apple iPhones aren't primitive - feel free to run the
search (and feel free to run a _different_ search because almost any search >>> you run will prove that iPhones are a primitive technology in 2021/2022). >>>
At least in terms of battery technology (which certainly includes the form >>> factor, especially as Apple widely touts their BS battery form factors). >>>
This is a cut-and-paste of the top 70 shown in the first page results:
Realme GT Neo3 Android 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A53 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A73 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A33 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 1024GB, 12GB RAM >>> Xiaomi 12 Pro Android - 4600 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A52s 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi K50 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro+ 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM >>> Realme Narzo 50A Prime Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi K50 Android - 5500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi 12 Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco X4 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro Android - 5020 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy S21 FE 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Honor Magic4 Ultimate Android - 4600 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A32 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Oppo A96 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy F23 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Xiaomi 12X Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco F3 Android - 4520 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Realme GT2 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro Android - 5160 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A52 Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi K40S Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
OnePlus 10 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy S22+ 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco M4 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
OnePlus Nord CE 2 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
vivo iQOO Z6 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A22 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Xiaomi 11T Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 16GB RAM >>> Xiaomi Redmi 10C Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
Realme 9 Pro+ Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Oppo Find X5 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Google Pixel 6 Pro Android - 5003 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Realme 9 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A03 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
Xiaomi 11T Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 10S Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Oppo K10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Google Pixel 6 Android - 4614 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A23 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A22 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A13 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy M52 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A03s Android - 5000 mAh battery, 64GB, 4GB RAM
Oppo Reno7 Z 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
OnePlus Nord 2 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Oppo Reno7 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A72 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A32 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Motorola Edge 30 Pro Android - 4800 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi 10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi K50 Gaming Android - 4700 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11S Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Realme 9i Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Oppo Reno7 Pro 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco M4 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
OnePlus 9 Pro Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Infinix Note 11 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Sony Xperia Pro-I Android - 4500 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A52 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy M33 Android - 6000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Realme 9 5G Speed Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Wow. That's interesting. Not a _single_ Apple iPhone in those results.
Now I know why the Apple people don't like this fact about Apple iPhones. >>
completely full using the charger that came free with the phone?
Interesting how you've had to change your message, isn't it?
All modern phones nowadays have huge batteries and mine is no exception.
I ran a test last night and mine took 2-1/4 hours to go from 0 to 100%
<https://i.postimg.cc/zGvhGxSb/charging13.jpg>
So the same as a current iPhone.
Got it.
On Wednesday, March 23, 2022 at 12:55:28 PM UTC-4, Andy Burnelli wrote:
My claim is "most" modern phones have at least a 4-1/2 hour battery nowadays
(and as a result, a phone that does not is downright primitive in terms of modern battery technology - and yes - packaging is a technology component).
I just ran this search where they only allow even numbers so I set the search to 4.4Ah (instead of to 4.5Ah) & allowed all phones in 2021 & 2022.
<https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2021&nBatCapacityMin=4400>
That shows 485 phones since 2021 with battery capacity of 4.4Ah or greater.
People who claim Apple iPhones aren't primitive - feel free to run the search (and feel free to run a _different_ search because almost any search you run will prove that iPhones are a primitive technology in 2021/2022).
At least in terms of battery technology (which certainly includes the form factor, especially as Apple widely touts their BS battery form factors).
This is a cut-and-paste of the top 70 shown in the first page results: Realme GT Neo3 Android 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A53 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A73 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A33 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 1024GB, 12GB RAM Xiaomi 12 Pro Android - 4600 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A52s 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi K50 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro+ 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM Realme Narzo 50A Prime Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi K50 Android - 5500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi 12 Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco X4 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro Android - 5020 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy S21 FE 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM Honor Magic4 Ultimate Android - 4600 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A32 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Oppo A96 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy F23 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Xiaomi 12X Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco F3 Android - 4520 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Realme GT2 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro Android - 5160 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A52 Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi K40S Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
OnePlus 10 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy S22+ 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco M4 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
OnePlus Nord CE 2 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
vivo iQOO Z6 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A22 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Xiaomi 11T Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 16GB RAM Xiaomi Redmi 10C Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
Realme 9 Pro+ Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Oppo Find X5 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Google Pixel 6 Pro Android - 5003 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Realme 9 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A03 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
Xiaomi 11T Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 10S Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Oppo K10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Google Pixel 6 Android - 4614 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A23 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A22 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A13 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy M52 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A03s Android - 5000 mAh battery, 64GB, 4GB RAM
Oppo Reno7 Z 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
OnePlus Nord 2 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Oppo Reno7 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A72 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A32 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Motorola Edge 30 Pro Android - 4800 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi 10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi K50 Gaming Android - 4700 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11S Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Realme 9i Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Oppo Reno7 Pro 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco M4 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
OnePlus 9 Pro Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Infinix Note 11 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Sony Xperia Pro-I Android - 4500 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A52 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy M33 Android - 6000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Realme 9 5G Speed Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Wow. That's interesting. Not a _single_ Apple iPhone in those results.
Now I know why the Apple people don't like this fact about Apple iPhones. --
I don't care iKooks are child-like with a low-IQ, no education& low self esteem; but due to that, they're so upset that Apple always screws them.
My SE 2 battery is smaller than the wife's Android but runs the phone about the same hours of our typical light use. If a fully charged phone can make it through the day without needing a charge that's what most people probably really care about.
I see, my anecdotes don't count but yours do. Sorry, Your Majesty.
Lewis is wrong of course.
In urban areas it would be rare to not have coverage, though often, even
in urban areas when you're deep inside a big box store you'll lose coverage.
you're assuming unlimited data is needed. it's not, largely because
most of the time, people are on wifi.
You're assumng there's a nearby hotspot for which they have the
password.
nospam is wrong of course.
The FM radio on smart phones is used in other situations and when you're
not on Wi-Fi, and sometimes when there's no cell coverage.
You would be surprised.
Many industrial sites have either large levels of interference, are
covered in enough metal to prevent external mobile signals penetrating
or are simply in one of the many places where coveragee is patchy at best. Fortunately phones equipped with wifi calling can use the internet to
make calls
If the solution is "actually quite simple" then why the F won't you just
tell people the answer instead of sitting there smugly saying "I know the answer - but I'm not going to tell you".
The spirit of news groups is a community of people who actually *want* to help each other.
There is no place for people like you who sit on the
sidelines, being smug, and not passing on their knowledge or experiences.
He spent a lot of time wandering round the office, looking over people's shoulders, muttering "yes, that's easy" or "it's in one of those books
over there".
the number of people for whom there is cellular/wifi but no fm is
greater than the number of people for whom there is fm but no
cellular/wifi.
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