Well, for those hungry for actual CSMA content to talk about...


Just happened to read through this article: <https://www.macrumors.com/guide/universal-control-vs-sidecar/>

It compares & contrasts the 2019 "sidecar" capability with the new 2021
beta of "universal control". I found it educational because I've not really been paying much attention to either one of them.

In a nutshell, my impression & understanding is that Sidecar (SC)
is to use one iOS tablet as 2nd display on one Mac (1:1), whereas
the intent of Universal Control (UC) seems to be closer to the
functional idea of a magical KVM switch where a single keyboard
& mouse is being used by multiple attached devices (many:many*)
& switches between to drive any of them.

* - apparently, at least one UC device must be a Mac.

Thoughts?

It seems pretty self-evident that SC is a partial capability stepping
stone to UC, but does it have value just on its own?

For example, is SC a "gimping" of the iOS device when its in that
mode such that the only thing it does is be a passive display with
no other UI interaction options? What happens with an iPad in SC
mode when one reaches a finger/pencil over to its touchscreen?
And so on.

Kind of wondering what the utility is, before trying to compare/
contrast it to what may exist on Windows/Linux/Android...


-hh

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On 2022-02-02 4:58 a.m., -hh wrote:

Well, for those hungry for actual CSMA content to talk about...

Just happened to read through this article: <https://www.macrumors.com/guide/universal-control-vs-sidecar/>

It compares & contrasts the 2019 "sidecar" capability with the new 2021
beta of "universal control". I found it educational because I've not really been paying much attention to either one of them.

In a nutshell, my impression & understanding is that Sidecar (SC)
is to use one iOS tablet as 2nd display on one Mac (1:1), whereas
the intent of Universal Control (UC) seems to be closer to the
functional idea of a magical KVM switch where a single keyboard
& mouse is being used by multiple attached devices (many:many*)
& switches between to drive any of them.

* - apparently, at least one UC device must be a Mac.

Thoughts?

It seems pretty self-evident that SC is a partial capability stepping
stone to UC, but does it have value just on its own?

For example, is SC a "gimping" of the iOS device when its in that
mode such that the only thing it does is be a passive display with
no other UI interaction options? What happens with an iPad in SC
mode when one reaches a finger/pencil over to its touchscreen?
And so on.

Kind of wondering what the utility is, before trying to compare/
contrast it to what may exist on Windows/Linux/Android...

Sidecar is definitely more than a passive display.

You can use your finger (or your Apple Pencil) to do things you would
have ordinarily done with the mouse and the pointer: select, draw, etc.

You can also scroll whatever you're displaying and you've got other
gestures for cut, copy, paste, undo and redo as well.

<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210380>

I've not actually had an opportunity to use it, but I'm visiting my sister-in-law later, and she has the necessary equipment to try it out,
so I'll have a look.

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On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 2:28:01 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:

On 2022-02-02 4:58 a.m., -hh wrote:

Well, for those hungry for actual CSMA content to talk about...

Just happened to read through this article: <https://www.macrumors.com/guide/universal-control-vs-sidecar/>

It compares & contrasts the 2019 "sidecar" capability with the new 2021 beta of "universal control". I found it educational because I've not really been paying much attention to either one of them.

In a nutshell, my impression & understanding is that Sidecar (SC)
is to use one iOS tablet as 2nd display on one Mac (1:1), whereas
the intent of Universal Control (UC) seems to be closer to the
functional idea of a magical KVM switch where a single keyboard
& mouse is being used by multiple attached devices (many:many*)
& switches between to drive any of them.

* - apparently, at least one UC device must be a Mac.

Thoughts?

It seems pretty self-evident that SC is a partial capability stepping
stone to UC, but does it have value just on its own?

For example, is SC a "gimping" of the iOS device when its in that
mode such that the only thing it does is be a passive display with
no other UI interaction options? What happens with an iPad in SC
mode when one reaches a finger/pencil over to its touchscreen?
And so on.

Kind of wondering what the utility is, before trying to compare/
contrast it to what may exist on Windows/Linux/Android...

Sidecar is definitely more than a passive display.

You can use your finger (or your Apple Pencil) to do things you would
have ordinarily done with the mouse and the pointer: select, draw, etc.

You can also scroll whatever you're displaying and you've got other
gestures for cut, copy, paste, undo and redo as well.

<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210380>

I've not actually had an opportunity to use it, but I'm visiting my sister-in-law later, and she has the necessary equipment to try it out,
so I'll have a look.

I have the M1 mini (still putzing/procrastinating on its final setup) and up-to-iOS-date iPads, so I probably have the equipment needed to try
sidecar .. just haven't looked into it at all yet; probably need to figure out what the more compelling use case is for it for myself.

-hh

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On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 5:58:38 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:

Well, for those hungry for actual CSMA content to talk about...

Just happened to read through this article: <https://www.macrumors.com/guide/universal-control-vs-sidecar/>

It compares & contrasts the 2019 "sidecar" capability with the new 2021
beta of "universal control". I found it educational because I've not really been paying much attention to either one of them.

In a nutshell, my impression & understanding is that Sidecar (SC)
is to use one iOS tablet as 2nd display on one Mac (1:1), whereas
the intent of Universal Control (UC) seems to be closer to the
functional idea of a magical KVM switch where a single keyboard
& mouse is being used by multiple attached devices (many:many*)
& switches between to drive any of them.

* - apparently, at least one UC device must be a Mac.

Thoughts?

It seems pretty self-evident that SC is a partial capability stepping
stone to UC, but does it have value just on its own?

For example, is SC a "gimping" of the iOS device when its in that
mode such that the only thing it does is be a passive display with
no other UI interaction options? What happens with an iPad in SC
mode when one reaches a finger/pencil over to its touchscreen?
And so on.

Kind of wondering what the utility is, before trying to compare/
contrast it to what may exist on Windows/Linux/Android...

-hh

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come rescue you. The advocates imply looking for a price comparison for
a Linux application is trolling.
Gremlin Dustin Cook:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=gremlin+dustin+cook>
<https://www.bing.com/search?q=gremlin+dustin+cook>
<https://duckduckgo.com/?q=gremlin+dustin+cook>

Functionally Illiterate Fraud:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=functionally+illiterate+fraud>
<https://www.bing.com/search?q=functionally+illiterate+fraud>
<https://duckduckgo.com/?q=functionally+illiterate+fraud>

Steve Carroll Petruzzellis:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=steve+carroll+petruzzellis>
<https://www.bing.com/search?q=steve+carroll+petruzzellis>
<https://duckduckgo.com/?q=steve+carroll+petruzzellis>

Narcissistic Bigot:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=narcissistic+bigot>
<https://www.bing.com/search?q=narcissistic+bigot>
<https://duckduckgo.com/?q=narcissistic+bigot>

What's the group coming to when a William Poaster sock/shill can't get
any reaction?


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Dustin Cook is a functionally illiterate fraud

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In article <07b45c0c-31f1-41b3-a25c-a62deeba0c26n@googlegroups.com>, -hh wrote:

Well, for those hungry for actual CSMA content to talk about...

Just happened to read through this article: <https://www.macrumors.com/guide/universal-control-vs-sidecar>

It compares & contrasts the 2019 "sidecar" capability with the new
2021 beta of "universal control". I found it educational because
I've not really been paying much attention to either one of them.

In a nutshell, my impression & understanding is that Sidecar (SC) is
to use one iOS tablet as 2nd display on one Mac (1:1), whereas the
intent of Universal Control (UC) seems to be closer to the
functional idea of a magical KVM switch where a single keyboard &
mouse is being used by multiple attached devices (many:many*) &
switches between to drive any of them.

* - apparently, at least one UC device must be a Mac.

Thoughts?

It seems pretty self-evident that SC is a partial capability
stepping stone to UC, but does it have value just on its own?

For example, is SC a "gimping" of the iOS device when its in that
mode such that the only thing it does is be a passive display with
no other UI interaction options? What happens with an iPad in SC
mode when one reaches a finger/pencil over to its touchscreen? And
so on.

Kind of wondering what the utility is, before trying to compare/
contrast it to what may exist on Windows/Linux/Android...

It's really two different use cases. Sidecar is to use your iPad as a screen for
your Mac, which is pretty neat. Universal Control lets your iPad use your mouse and keyboard as input.

In sidecar mode, the iPad can't be used for anything else, so it's "gimping" it in that regard. But since you presumably aren't using your iPad and your Mac at the same time, the extra screen real estate is nice.

But if you're using your iPad and Mac at the same time, then Universal Control is
for you. I can't see this use case myself, but I guess it may be useful to some.

--
Sandman

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On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 11:48:13 PM UTC-7, Sandman wrote:

In article <07b45c0c-31f1-41b3...@googlegroups.com>, -hh wrote:

Well, for those hungry for actual CSMA content to talk about...

Just happened to read through this article: <https://www.macrumors.com/guide/universal-control-vs-sidecar>
It compares & contrasts the 2019 "sidecar" capability with the new
2021 beta of "universal control". I found it educational because
I've not really been paying much attention to either one of them.

In a nutshell, my impression & understanding is that Sidecar (SC) is
to use one iOS tablet as 2nd display on one Mac (1:1), whereas the
intent of Universal Control (UC) seems to be closer to the
functional idea of a magical KVM switch where a single keyboard &
mouse is being used by multiple attached devices (many:many*) &
switches between to drive any of them.

* - apparently, at least one UC device must be a Mac.

Thoughts?

It seems pretty self-evident that SC is a partial capability
stepping stone to UC, but does it have value just on its own?

For example, is SC a "gimping" of the iOS device when its in that
mode such that the only thing it does is be a passive display with
no other UI interaction options? What happens with an iPad in SC
mode when one reaches a finger/pencil over to its touchscreen? And
so on.

Kind of wondering what the utility is, before trying to compare/
contrast it to what may exist on Windows/Linux/Android...

It's really two different use cases. Sidecar is to use your iPad as a screen for
your Mac, which is pretty neat. Universal Control lets your iPad use your mouse
and keyboard as input.

In sidecar mode, the iPad can't be used for anything else, so it's "gimping" it
in that regard. But since you presumably aren't using your iPad and your Mac at
the same time, the extra screen real estate is nice.

But if you're using your iPad and Mac at the same time, then Universal Control is
for you. I can't see this use case myself, but I guess it may be useful to some.

--
Sandman

Which do you think is the better troll? Michael Snit Glasser or Jeff-Relf.Me? I vote for Jeff-Relf.Me; only because he sometimes does comprehend what
he hears, even if, regrettably, he forgets it sometimes moments later.
Pro tip: You will not go into a cult meeting, guzzle all the rotgut, defile
all the furniture, rob the nicknacks and toss your cookies in the loo without being told to leave.

Jeff-Relf.Me claims to be the ChromeOS-expert. Let us see him put up an
example but lacking the data correction loops.

Yup. Clearly this is what we have to put up with. Trolls who clearly have
no reason for being here other than to troll.

--
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