• O Browser

    From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 1 12:17:10 2022
    Hi,

    I thought I'd give O browser a whirl but got the following

    message.....12:13:02.26 ** WimpError ** from Otter Browser FE
    Error : &00000000
    Message: Although you have !SharedLibs (probably in !Boot.Resources),
    it is missing necessary shared libraries. Please see Readme.


    Readme wasn't much help. Where do I get whatever is missing?

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    Chris Newman

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to Chris Newman on Sat Jan 1 12:35:38 2022
    In message <59a3f4dd7fcvjazz@waitrose.com>
    Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

    Hi,

    I thought I'd give O browser a whirl but got the following

    message.....12:13:02.26 ** WimpError ** from Otter Browser FE
    Error : &00000000
    Message: Although you have !SharedLibs (probably in !Boot.Resources),
    it is missing necessary shared libraries. Please see Readme.


    Readme wasn't much help. Where do I get whatever is missing?

    I suspect you have not updated the !SharedLibs ?

    There would have been an updated !SharedLibs on the CD with !Obrowser or
    in the ZIp file.

    Otherwise you could probably updated it via Packman - Backup your
    existing !SharedLibs first, although Packman is supposed to do an
    automatic backup if it already exist, I use belt and braces system.



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    Chris Hughes

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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to news13@noonehere.co.uk on Sat Jan 1 14:09:45 2022
    In article <848ef6a359.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <59a3f4dd7fcvjazz@waitrose.com> Chris Newman
    <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

    Hi,

    I thought I'd give O browser a whirl but got the following

    message.....12:13:02.26 ** WimpError ** from Otter Browser FE Error
    : &00000000 Message: Although you have !SharedLibs (probably in !Boot.Resources), it is missing necessary shared libraries. Please
    see Readme.


    Readme wasn't much help. Where do I get whatever is missing?

    I suspect you have not updated the !SharedLibs ?

    There would have been an updated !SharedLibs on the CD with !Obrowser
    or in the ZIp file.

    Otherwise you could probably updated it via Packman - Backup your
    existing !SharedLibs first, although Packman is supposed to do an
    automatic backup if it already exist, I use belt and braces system.

    I got SharedLibs103 (25-Oct02021) from the Riscos developments site.
    I presumed this to be the latest but when I looked at its history file
    the last update 103 is dated 24/8/06.

    Confused!!!

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    Chris Newman

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  • From Harriet Bazley@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Sat Jan 1 14:26:40 2022
    On 1 Jan 2022 as I do recall,
    Chris Hughes wrote:

    In message <59a3f4dd7fcvjazz@waitrose.com>
    Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

    Hi,

    I thought I'd give O browser a whirl but got the following

    message.....12:13:02.26 ** WimpError ** from Otter Browser FE
    Error : &00000000
    Message: Although you have !SharedLibs (probably in !Boot.Resources),
    it is missing necessary shared libraries. Please see Readme.


    Readme wasn't much help. Where do I get whatever is missing?

    I suspect you have not updated the !SharedLibs ?

    There would have been an updated !SharedLibs on the CD with !Obrowser or
    in the ZIp file.

    Otherwise you could probably updated it via Packman - Backup your
    existing !SharedLibs first, although Packman is supposed to do an
    automatic backup if it already exist, I use belt and braces system.

    My OBrowser stopped working last February after I updated Packman, which updated !SharedLibs - I suspect RComp's version is extremely customised
    (and I still haven't got round to trying to get it working again. I
    can't find my original CD, unfortunately).

    --
    Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

    Joseph Stalin's grave was a Communist Plot.

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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk on Sat Jan 1 15:20:39 2022
    In article <b3b800a459.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>, Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
    On 1 Jan 2022 as I do recall, Chris Hughes wrote:

    In message <59a3f4dd7fcvjazz@waitrose.com> Chris Newman
    <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

    Hi,

    I thought I'd give O browser a whirl but got the following

    message.....12:13:02.26 ** WimpError ** from Otter Browser FE
    Error : &00000000 Message: Although you have !SharedLibs
    (probably in !Boot.Resources), it is missing necessary shared
    libraries. Please see Readme.


    Readme wasn't much help. Where do I get whatever is missing?

    I suspect you have not updated the !SharedLibs ?

    There would have been an updated !SharedLibs on the CD with !Obrowser
    or in the ZIp file.

    Otherwise you could probably updated it via Packman - Backup your existing !SharedLibs first, although Packman is supposed to do an
    automatic backup if it already exist, I use belt and braces system.

    My OBrowser stopped working last February after I updated Packman,
    which updated !SharedLibs - I suspect RComp's version is extremely
    customised (and I still haven't got round to trying to get it working
    again. I can't find my original CD, unfortunately).

    Ah! That would explain it.

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    Chris Newman

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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 4 16:38:08 2022
    In article <b3b800a459.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,


    Otherwise you could probably updated it via Packman - Backup your existing !SharedLibs first, although Packman is supposed to do an
    automatic backup if it already exist, I use belt and braces system.

    My OBrowser stopped working last February after I updated Packman, which updated !SharedLibs - I suspect RComp's version is extremely customised
    (and I still haven't got round to trying to get it working again. I
    can't find my original CD, unfortunately).

    Can !SharedLibs be updated manually without the need for Packman?

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    Chris Newman

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Chris Newman on Wed Jan 5 22:01:47 2022
    Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
    Can !SharedLibs be updated manually without the need for Packman?

    You can download all the pieces and install them manually - the archives are just zip files. Although Packman then won't be able to upgrade things automatically - it'll prompt before it backs up files it wants to bring
    under its own management. If you are 'too clever' there is a risk it won't
    get things quite right. At the end of the day you don't need to use
    Packman, it's just a tool to automate this process, but you can do
    everything by hand.

    I haven't used Obrowser or Iris, but Andrew said Iris used a version of !SharedLibs embedded inside it - which may not mesh nicely with a system
    wide one. He was looking into making that work more smoothly a few months
    back - I'm not sure where he got to on that.

    Theo

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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk on Thu Jan 6 15:44:23 2022
    In article <BBe*svyDy@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
    Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
    Can !SharedLibs be updated manually without the need for Packman?

    You can download all the pieces and install them manually - the
    archives are just zip files. Although Packman then won't be able to
    upgrade things automatically - it'll prompt before it backs up files it
    wants to bring under its own management. If you are 'too clever' there
    is a risk it won't get things quite right. At the end of the day you
    don't need to use Packman, it's just a tool to automate this process,
    but you can do everything by hand.

    Thanks for that. Where do I go to get the relevant SharedLibs files?

    I haven't used Obrowser or Iris, but Andrew said Iris used a version of !SharedLibs embedded inside it - which may not mesh nicely with a
    system wide one. He was looking into making that work more smoothly a
    few months back - I'm not sure where he got to on that.

    I think that might have been done. When I first bought Iris from the
    !Store I got an error message with !SharedLibs in Boot.Resources so I
    took it out. I recently tried SharedLibs again & now there seems to be no clash.

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    Chris Newman

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Chris Newman on Thu Jan 6 22:07:36 2022
    Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
    In article <BBe*svyDy@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
    Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
    Can !SharedLibs be updated manually without the need for Packman?

    You can download all the pieces and install them manually - the
    archives are just zip files. Although Packman then won't be able to upgrade things automatically - it'll prompt before it backs up files it wants to bring under its own management. If you are 'too clever' there
    is a risk it won't get things quite right. At the end of the day you
    don't need to use Packman, it's just a tool to automate this process,
    but you can do everything by hand.

    Thanks for that. Where do I go to get the relevant SharedLibs files?

    Probably:
    http://www.riscos.info/index.php/Packages
    assuming someone has uploaded suitably recent builds.

    You would first need to know which packages Obrowser needs.
    There is a list for Otter-browser: http://www.riscos.info/packages/NetworkDetails.html#Otter-browserarm

    but that's probably out of date. If you have the package zipfile for
    Obrowser the list should be inside in RiscPkg.Control, although you then
    need to follow the dependencies manually (ie if Obrowser depends on X, and X depends on Y, and Y on Z, you'd need all three)

    Theo

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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk on Thu Jan 6 23:48:42 2022
    In article <yBe*kODDy@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
    Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
    In article <BBe*svyDy@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
    Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
    Can !SharedLibs be updated manually without the need for Packman?

    You can download all the pieces and install them manually - the
    archives are just zip files. Although Packman then won't be able
    to upgrade things automatically - it'll prompt before it backs up
    files it wants to bring under its own management. If you are 'too clever' there is a risk it won't get things quite right. At the
    end of the day you don't need to use Packman, it's just a tool to automate this process, but you can do everything by hand.

    Thanks for that. Where do I go to get the relevant SharedLibs files?

    Probably: http://www.riscos.info/index.php/Packages assuming someone
    has uploaded suitably recent builds.

    You would first need to know which packages Obrowser needs. There is a
    list for Otter-browser: http://www.riscos.info/packages/NetworkDetails.html#Otter-browserarm

    but that's probably out of date. If you have the package zipfile for Obrowser the list should be inside in RiscPkg.Control, although you
    then need to follow the dependencies manually (ie if Obrowser depends
    on X, and X depends on Y, and Y on Z, you'd need all three)

    Thanks, Theo. Looks a bit of a faff. I'll have a go when I get a window
    of opportinity, as they say.

    Iris is doing quite well. I just wondered what O browser had to offfer.

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    Chris Newman

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