• PC4 Re: iomega's oddball "SCSI-but-crippled" PC4B/50 MCA SCSI controlle

    From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Tue Jun 7 06:45:04 2022
    https://www.amazon.com/Iomega-IOMEGA-PC4-ADAPTER/dp/B00456SMBE

    On 6/7/2022 06:15, Louis Ohland wrote:
    PC3B XT / AT
    PC4B 50 / 60 / 80

    Full length, 16-bit card, left third has a buncha non populated
    positions. Uses NCR 53C90. No BIOS chip, GAL / PAL? Three soldered
    Resistor networks. No apparent jumpers. 50 pin shrouded internal header,
    DB37 external header.

    My SWAG, the PC4B used a variant of 53C90 ?

    Silkscreen upper right, "IOMEGA PC4 BD#2

    Adapter PC4
    0068300-0
    03-15-1988

    FCCID: DDX7EBPC4




    On 6/7/2022 06:08, Louis Ohland wrote:
    There seems to be PC4, PC4A, PC4B. My attempts to dig up ad copy
    failed. IA picks up www.iomega.com late '96 [IIRC], by then the PC4n
    was no longer active? can't see it in the Products section...

    On 6/6/2022 22:38, IBMMuseum wrote:
    I've got an earlier 'PC4' (no 'B') as well - with no ROM.



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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Tue Jun 7 07:11:52 2022
    https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:NsYzJJWQsccJ:https://www.hoa.org/blog/jack-allweiss/the-iomega-host-adapter-project/+&cd=17&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    On 6/7/2022 06:45, Louis Ohland wrote:
    https://www.amazon.com/Iomega-IOMEGA-PC4-ADAPTER/dp/B00456SMBE

    On 6/7/2022 06:15, Louis Ohland wrote:
    PC3B XT / AT
    PC4B 50 / 60 / 80

    Full length, 16-bit card, left third has a buncha non populated
    positions. Uses NCR 53C90. No BIOS chip, GAL / PAL? Three soldered
    Resistor networks. No apparent jumpers. 50 pin shrouded internal header,
    DB37 external header.

    My SWAG, the PC4B used a variant of 53C90 ?

    Silkscreen upper right, "IOMEGA PC4 BD#2

    Adapter PC4
    0068300-0
    03-15-1988

    FCCID: DDX7EBPC4




    On 6/7/2022 06:08, Louis Ohland wrote:
    There seems to be PC4, PC4A, PC4B. My attempts to dig up ad copy
    failed. IA picks up www.iomega.com late '96 [IIRC], by then the PC4n
    was no longer active? can't see it in the Products section...

    On 6/6/2022 22:38, IBMMuseum wrote:
    I've got an earlier 'PC4' (no 'B') as well - with no ROM.




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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Tue Jun 7 06:57:57 2022
    @7FF9.ADF - IOMEGA PC4 Host Adapter Board http://www.mcamafia.de/mcapage0/adf/@7ff9.adf

    Comes in full length, possumbly there is a "BD#1" or just a PC4 without
    any "BD"

    @7FFA.ADF - Iomega PC4B/50 SCSI Host Adapter Board http://www.mcamafia.de/mcapage0/adf/@7ffa.adf

    Comes as full length with no components on left half, all components
    resemble short card, -OR- short card


    On 6/7/2022 06:45, Louis Ohland wrote:
    https://www.amazon.com/Iomega-IOMEGA-PC4-ADAPTER/dp/B00456SMBE

    On 6/7/2022 06:15, Louis Ohland wrote:
    PC3B XT / AT
    PC4B 50 / 60 / 80

    Full length, 16-bit card, left third has a buncha non populated
    positions. Uses NCR 53C90. No BIOS chip, GAL / PAL? Three soldered
    Resistor networks. No apparent jumpers. 50 pin shrouded internal header,
    DB37 external header.

    My SWAG, the PC4B used a variant of 53C90 ?

    Silkscreen upper right, "IOMEGA PC4 BD#2

    Adapter PC4
    0068300-0
    03-15-1988

    FCCID: DDX7EBPC4




    On 6/7/2022 06:08, Louis Ohland wrote:
    There seems to be PC4, PC4A, PC4B. My attempts to dig up ad copy
    failed. IA picks up www.iomega.com late '96 [IIRC], by then the PC4n
    was no longer active? can't see it in the Products section...

    On 6/6/2022 22:38, IBMMuseum wrote:
    I've got an earlier 'PC4' (no 'B') as well - with no ROM.




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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Tue Jun 7 07:03:53 2022
    https://books.google.com/books?id=ObYblXvjuhUC&pg=PA267&lpg=PA267&dq=iomega+pc4&source=bl&ots=auhC1ouMEg&sig=ACfU3U3I2AjFo1ZD-Lor4-70BCNgDApnmw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwim7oCCpZv4AhVJtoQIHSU9Avs4KBDoAXoECA8QAw#v=onepage&q=iomega%20pc4&f=false

    Interfaces

    PC2 PC, XT, AT
    PC2B Bootable
    PC3B Non-Networking
    PC4 PS/2 Microchannel

    Methinks a better search term is "Bernoulli Box", might bring up better
    hits in the 1987-1990 era.

    On 6/7/2022 06:45, Louis Ohland wrote:
    https://www.amazon.com/Iomega-IOMEGA-PC4-ADAPTER/dp/B00456SMBE

    On 6/7/2022 06:15, Louis Ohland wrote:
    PC3B XT / AT
    PC4B 50 / 60 / 80

    Full length, 16-bit card, left third has a buncha non populated
    positions. Uses NCR 53C90. No BIOS chip, GAL / PAL? Three soldered
    Resistor networks. No apparent jumpers. 50 pin shrouded internal header,
    DB37 external header.

    My SWAG, the PC4B used a variant of 53C90 ?

    Silkscreen upper right, "IOMEGA PC4 BD#2

    Adapter PC4
    0068300-0
    03-15-1988

    FCCID: DDX7EBPC4




    On 6/7/2022 06:08, Louis Ohland wrote:
    There seems to be PC4, PC4A, PC4B. My attempts to dig up ad copy
    failed. IA picks up www.iomega.com late '96 [IIRC], by then the PC4n
    was no longer active? can't see it in the Products section...

    On 6/6/2022 22:38, IBMMuseum wrote:
    I've got an earlier 'PC4' (no 'B') as well - with no ROM.




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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Tue Jun 7 07:51:55 2022
    Wading through the hits. Windows KB article mentions the PCn and how it
    didn't respond to BIOS calls, as it used INT 25h, and it needed drivers.
    Let me surf...

    On 6/7/2022 06:45, Louis Ohland wrote:
    https://www.amazon.com/Iomega-IOMEGA-PC4-ADAPTER/dp/B00456SMBE

    On 6/7/2022 06:15, Louis Ohland wrote:
    PC3B XT / AT
    PC4B 50 / 60 / 80

    Full length, 16-bit card, left third has a buncha non populated
    positions. Uses NCR 53C90. No BIOS chip, GAL / PAL? Three soldered
    Resistor networks. No apparent jumpers. 50 pin shrouded internal header,
    DB37 external header.

    My SWAG, the PC4B used a variant of 53C90 ?

    Silkscreen upper right, "IOMEGA PC4 BD#2

    Adapter PC4
    0068300-0
    03-15-1988

    FCCID: DDX7EBPC4




    On 6/7/2022 06:08, Louis Ohland wrote:
    There seems to be PC4, PC4A, PC4B. My attempts to dig up ad copy
    failed. IA picks up www.iomega.com late '96 [IIRC], by then the PC4n
    was no longer active? can't see it in the Products section...

    On 6/6/2022 22:38, IBMMuseum wrote:
    I've got an earlier 'PC4' (no 'B') as well - with no ROM.




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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Tue Jun 7 07:59:49 2022
    http://www.cs.ubbcluj.ro/~forest/HtmlFolder/AC/NG/ng79205.html

    On 6/7/2022 07:51, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Wading through the hits. Windows KB article mentions the PCn and how it didn't respond to BIOS calls, as it used INT 25h, and it needed drivers.
    Let me surf...

    On 6/7/2022 06:45, Louis Ohland wrote:
    https://www.amazon.com/Iomega-IOMEGA-PC4-ADAPTER/dp/B00456SMBE

    On 6/7/2022 06:15, Louis Ohland wrote:
    PC3B XT / AT
    PC4B 50 / 60 / 80

    Full length, 16-bit card, left third has a buncha non populated
    positions. Uses NCR 53C90. No BIOS chip, GAL / PAL? Three soldered
    Resistor networks. No apparent jumpers. 50 pin shrouded internal
    header, DB37 external header.

    My SWAG, the PC4B used a variant of 53C90 ?

    Silkscreen upper right, "IOMEGA PC4 BD#2

    Adapter PC4
    0068300-0
    03-15-1988

    FCCID: DDX7EBPC4




    On 6/7/2022 06:08, Louis Ohland wrote:
    There seems to be PC4, PC4A, PC4B. My attempts to dig up ad copy
    failed. IA picks up www.iomega.com late '96 [IIRC], by then the PC4n
    was no longer active? can't see it in the Products section...

    On 6/6/2022 22:38, IBMMuseum wrote:
    I've got an earlier 'PC4' (no 'B') as well - with no ROM.





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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Tue Jun 7 10:20:47 2022
    07FF9h "IOMEGA PC4 Host Adapter Board"

    NumBytes 2

    "I/O Address Select"
    Use any one of the I/O Addresses listed
    "240" [00240-0025F], 340 [00340-0035F], 400 [00400-0041F], 420
    [00420-0043F], 3240 [03240-0325F], 8240 [08240-0825F], A240
    [0A240-0A25F], "Disabled"

    "DMA Level Select"
    The PC4 supports the DMA mode of data transfer. The lower the DMA level,
    the higher the corresponding priority. DMA level 5 is recommended.

    "DMA Level 5", 6, 7

    "Fairness"
    'Fairness' enabled, the PC4 won’t compete for the channel during the
    next arbitration phase if it is currently in control of the channel.
    Other installed adapters can obtain the channel in the next sequence
    based on each adapter's assigned priority level.
    'Fairness' disabled, the adapter competes for every arbitration phase
    and obtains more than its fair share of channel usage. Recommend
    'Fairness Enabled' for all adapters.

    "Fairness Enabled", "Fairness Disabled"

    "Preempt Count Select"
    When the PC4 detects that another adapter requires use of the channel,
    the Preempt Count feature is activated. The Preempt Count is the maximum
    number of bytes to transfer before yielding control of the channel. The
    PC4 always transfers a max of 7 bytes before relinquishing control of
    the channel. NOTE: Always ON, it appears...
    "7 Bytes"

    07FFAh "Iomega PC4B/50 SCSI Host Adapter Board"

    NumBytes 4

    FixedResources pos[0]=00XXXXXXb pos[1]=X11XXXXXb

    "I/O Address Select"
    Use any one of the I/O Addresses listed
    "240" [00240-0025F], 340 [00340-0035F], 400 [00400-0041F], 420
    [00420-0043F], 3240 [03240-0325F], 8240 [08240-0825F], A240
    [0A240-0A25F], "Disabled"

    "DMA Level Select"
    The PC4 supports the DMA mode of data transfer. Most O/Ss require this
    option to be enabled. Each DMA level has a corresponding priority level;
    the lower the DMA level, the higher the corresponding priority. DMA
    level 5 is recommended.

    "DMA Level 5", 6, 7, Disabled

    "Fairness"
    'Fairness' enabled, PC4 won’t compete for the channel during the next arbitration phase if it is currently in control of the channel. Other
    adapters can obtain the channel in the next sequence based on each
    adapter's assigned priority level.
    'Fairness' disabled, PC4 competes for every arbitration phase and
    obtains more than its fair share of channel usage. We recommend you use 'Fairness Enabled' for all adapters.
    "Fairness Enabled", Fairness Disabled

    "IRQ level”
    "Operation with multi-tasking O/Ss may require an IRQ when the PC4
    requires processor service. For DOS-only systems, this may be disabled.
    NOTE: You cannot share IRQs between the PC4 and another adapter.
    "IRQ 7", 5, 3, 9, Disabled

    "Memory Address Select"
    Use any Memory Address listed. "Disabled" is recommended for systems
    with a fixed disk installed.
    "Disabled", D400, D200, D000, CE00, CC00, CA00, C800


    On 6/7/2022 06:57, Louis Ohland wrote:
    @7FF9.ADF - IOMEGA PC4 Host Adapter Board http://www.mcamafia.de/mcapage0/adf/@7ff9.adf

    Comes in full length, possumbly there is a "BD#1" or just a PC4 without
    any "BD"

    @7FFA.ADF - Iomega PC4B/50 SCSI Host Adapter Board http://www.mcamafia.de/mcapage0/adf/@7ffa.adf

    Comes as full length with no components on left half, all components
    resemble short card, -OR- short card


    On 6/7/2022 06:45, Louis Ohland wrote:
    https://www.amazon.com/Iomega-IOMEGA-PC4-ADAPTER/dp/B00456SMBE

    On 6/7/2022 06:15, Louis Ohland wrote:
    PC3B XT / AT
    PC4B 50 / 60 / 80

    Full length, 16-bit card, left third has a buncha non populated
    positions. Uses NCR 53C90. No BIOS chip, GAL / PAL? Three soldered
    Resistor networks. No apparent jumpers. 50 pin shrouded internal
    header, DB37 external header.

    My SWAG, the PC4B used a variant of 53C90 ?

    Silkscreen upper right, "IOMEGA PC4 BD#2

    Adapter PC4
    0068300-0
    03-15-1988

    FCCID: DDX7EBPC4




    On 6/7/2022 06:08, Louis Ohland wrote:
    There seems to be PC4, PC4A, PC4B. My attempts to dig up ad copy
    failed. IA picks up www.iomega.com late '96 [IIRC], by then the PC4n
    was no longer active? can't see it in the Products section...

    On 6/6/2022 22:38, IBMMuseum wrote:
    I've got an earlier 'PC4' (no 'B') as well - with no ROM.





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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 7 17:00:18 2022
    Huh, does this mean the /50 and the HD have different ROMs, different
    SCSI controllers, or "YES"

    Note, they all support "Fairness", which is a requirement for BURST. My
    SWAG is this is a SCSI-2 command set compatible, 5MB/s SCSI bus, roughly 8.3MB/s to MCA bus?

    I think the 86C01 is a bus interface thingy...

    @7FF9.ADF IOMEGA PC4 Host Adapter Board
    @7FFA.ADF Iomega PC4B/50 SCSI Host Adapter Board
    @5FCB.ADF Iomega PC4B/HD SCSI Host Adapter Board

    07FF9h "IOMEGA PC4 Host Adapter Board"

    NumBytes 2

    "I/O Address Select"
    Use any one of the I/O Addresses listed
    "240" [00240-0025F], 340 [00340-0035F], 400 [00400-0041F], 420
    [00420-0043F], 3240 [03240-0325F], 8240 [08240-0825F], A240
    [0A240-0A25F], "Disabled"

    "DMA Level Select"
    The PC4 supports the DMA mode of data transfer. The lower the DMA level,
    the higher the corresponding priority. DMA level 5 is recommended.

    "DMA Level 5", 6, 7

    "Fairness"
    'Fairness' enabled, the PC4 won’t compete for the channel during the
    next arbitration phase if it is currently in control of the channel.
    Other installed adapters can obtain the channel in the next sequence
    based on each adapter's assigned priority level.
    'Fairness' disabled, the adapter competes for every arbitration phase
    and obtains more than its fair share of channel usage. Recommend
    'Fairness Enabled' for all adapters.

    "Fairness Enabled", "Fairness Disabled"

    "Preempt Count Select"
    When the PC4 detects that another adapter requires use of the channel,
    the Preempt Count feature is activated. The Preempt Count is the maximum
    number of bytes to transfer before yielding control of the channel. The
    PC4 always transfers a max of 7 bytes before relinquishing control of
    the channel. NOTE: Always ON, it appears...
    "7 Bytes"

    07FFAh "Iomega PC4B/50 SCSI Host Adapter Board"

    NumBytes 4

    FixedResources pos[0]=00XXXXXXb pos[1]=X11XXXXXb

    "I/O Address Select"
    Use any one of the I/O Addresses listed
    "240" [00240-0025F], 340 [00340-0035F], 400 [00400-0041F], 420
    [00420-0043F], 3240 [03240-0325F], 8240 [08240-0825F], A240
    [0A240-0A25F], "Disabled"

    "DMA Level Select"
    The PC4 supports the DMA mode of data transfer. Most O/Ss require this
    option to be enabled. Each DMA level has a corresponding priority level;
    the lower the DMA level, the higher the corresponding priority. DMA
    level 5 is recommended.

    "DMA Level 5", 6, 7, Disabled

    "Fairness"
    'Fairness' enabled, PC4 won’t compete for the channel during the next arbitration phase if it is currently in control of the channel. Other
    adapters can obtain the channel in the next sequence based on each
    adapter's assigned priority level.
    'Fairness' disabled, PC4 competes for every arbitration phase and
    obtains more than its fair share of channel usage. We recommend you use 'Fairness Enabled' for all adapters.
    "Fairness Enabled", Fairness Disabled

    "IRQ level”
    "Operation with multi-tasking O/Ss may require an IRQ when the PC4
    requires processor service. For DOS-only systems, this may be disabled.
    NOTE: You cannot share IRQs between the PC4 and another adapter.
    "IRQ 7", 5, 3, 9, Disabled

    "Memory Address Select"
    Use any Memory Address listed. "Disabled" is recommended for systems
    with a fixed disk installed.
    "Disabled", D400, D200, D000, CE00, CC00, CA00, C800

    05FCBh "Iomega PC4B/HD SCSI Host Adapter Board"

    NumBytes 4

    FixedResources pos[0]=00XXXXXXb pos[1]=X11XXXXXb

    "I/O Address Select"
    "240", 340, 400, 420, 3240, 8240, A240, Disabled
    Set the adapter to any of the I/O Addresses. The first choice is
    recommended. 'Disabled' causes the adapter to be inaccessible.

    "DMA Level Select"
    The PC4 supports DMA mode of data transfer. Most operating systems
    require this option to be enabled. The lower the DMA level, the higher
    the corresponding priority.
    If you have a hard disk installed, it is recommended that you select a
    DMA level higher than the hard disk.

    "DMA Level 7", 6, 5, DMA Disabled

    "Fairness"
    "If 'Fairness' is enabled, the PC4 adapter will not compete for the
    channel during the next arbitration phase if it is currently in control
    of the channel. This allows other installed adapters to obtain the
    channel in the next sequence based on each adapter's assigned priority
    level. When 'Fairness' is disabled, the adapter will compete for every arbitration phase and will obtain more than its fair share of channel
    usage. We recommend you use 'Fairness Enabled' for all adapters.

    "Fairness Enabled", Fairness Disabled

    "IRQ level"
    Operation with multi-tasking operating systems may require an IRQ when
    the PC4 requires processor service. No other adapter may be assigned the
    same IRQ level as the PC4. For DOS-only systems, this option may be
    disabled.

    IRQ 3, 5, 7, 9, or Disabled.

    "Memory Address Select"
    The PC4 may be set to any one of the Addresses listed. “Disabled” is recommended for systems with a fixed disk installed. If you want to boot
    from a device connected to your PC4, select the first available memory
    address and assign the device attached to the adapter the SCSI ID of
    zero. NOTE: Uses the clone 0,1 for boot devices !

    "Disabled", DC00, D800, D400, D000, CC00, C800

    "Termination Select"
    Set the termination ON or OFF. Default is ON. Turn the termination OFF
    if you intend to use both the internal and external connectors.

    "ON", OFF

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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Tue Jun 7 19:16:09 2022
    PC3B non-networking... I wonder if that means that on an XT or AT that
    the PC3B takes up the DMA channel used by the networking card

    On 6/7/2022 07:03, Louis Ohland wrote:
    https://books.google.com/books?id=ObYblXvjuhUC&pg=PA267&lpg=PA267&dq=iomega+pc4&source=bl&ots=auhC1ouMEg&sig=ACfU3U3I2AjFo1ZD-Lor4-70BCNgDApnmw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwim7oCCpZv4AhVJtoQIHSU9Avs4KBDoAXoECA8QAw#v=onepage&q=iomega%20pc4&f=false


    Interfaces

    PC2 PC, XT, AT
    PC2B Bootable
    PC3B Non-Networking
    PC4 PS/2 Microchannel

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