• "You may not..."

    From DFS@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 16 07:57:50 2024
    GPL 3

    1 propagate or modify a covered work except as expressly provided under
    this License.

    2 impose any further restrictions on the exercise of the rights granted
    or affirmed under this License.

    3 impose a license fee, royalty, or other charge for exercise of rights
    granted under this License

    4 initiate litigation (including a cross-claim or counterclaim in a
    lawsuit) alleging that any patent claim is infringed by making,
    using, selling, offering for sale, or importing the Program or any
    portion of it.

    5 convey a covered work if you are a party to an arrangement with a
    third party that is in the business of distributing software, under
    which you make payment to the third party based on the extent of your
    activity of conveying the work, and under which the third party
    grants, to any of the parties who would receive the covered work from
    you, a discriminatory patent license (a) in connection with copies of
    the covered work conveyed by you (or copies made from those copies),
    or (b) primarily for and in connection with specific products or
    compilations that contain the covered work, unless you entered into
    that arrangement, or that patent license was granted, prior to 28
    March 2007.

    6 If you cannot convey a covered work so as to satisfy simultaneously
    your obligations under this License and any other pertinent
    obligations, then as a consequence you may not convey it at all.


    Win 11 Pro

    1 By accepting this agreement or using the software, you agree to all
    of these terms, and consent to the transmission of certain
    information during activation and during your use of the software as
    per the privacy statement described in Section 3. If you do not
    accept and comply with these terms, you may not use the software or
    its features.

    2 Section 2c: Installation and Use Rights - Restrictions
    you may not (and you may not permit any other person or entity to):
    (i) use or virtualize features of the software separately;
    (ii)  publish, copy (other than the permitted backup copy), rent,
    lease, or lend the software;
    (iii) transfer the software (except as permitted by this agreement);
    (iv)  work around any technical restrictions or limitations in the
    software;
    (v)   use the software as server software or to operate the device as
    a server, except as permitted under Section 2(d)(iii) below;
    use the software to offer commercial hosting services; make the
    software available for simultaneous use by more than one user
    over a network, except as permitted under Section 2(d)(vi)
    below; install the software on a server for remote access or
    use over a network; or install the software on a device for use
    only by remote users;
    (vi)  reverse engineer, decompile, or disassemble the software, or
    attempt to do so, except and only to the extent that the
    foregoing restriction is (a) permitted by applicable law; (b)
    permitted by licensing terms governing the use of open-source
    components that may be included with the software; or (c)
    required to debug changes to any libraries licensed under the
    GNU Lesser General Public License that are included with and
    linked to by the software; and
    (vii) when using Internet-based features you may not use those
    features in any way that could interfere with anyone else’s use
    of them, or to try to gain access to or use any service, data,
    account, or network, in an unauthorized manner.

    3 transfer the software to share licenses between devices.

    4 bypass or circumvent activation

    5 under this limited warranty, under any other part of this agreement,
    or under any theory, recover any damages or other remedy, including
    lost profits or direct, consequential, special, indirect, or
    incidental damages.

    6 use such [limited rights] versions of the software for commercial,
    non-profit, or revenue-generating activities.

    7 sell the [evaluation] software, use it in a live operating
    environment, or use it after the evaluation period.

    8 sell software marked as “NFR” or “Not for Resale”.




    The Windows EULA is a straightforward legal contract, while the GPL is a
    pile of nonsense.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 16 17:01:35 2024
    On Thu, 16 May 2024 07:57:50 -0400, DFS wrote:

    MIT License

    Copyright <YEAR> <COPYRIGHT HOLDER>

    Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a
    copy of this software and associated documentation files (the “Software”), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation
    the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense,
    and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the
    Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:

    The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in
    all copies or substantial portions of the Software.

    THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED “AS IS”, WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL
    THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING
    FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER
    DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE.

    Zero-Clause BSD

    Permission to use, copy, modify, and/or distribute this software for
    any purpose with or without fee is hereby granted.

    THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED “AS IS” AND THE AUTHOR DISCLAIMS ALL
    WARRANTIES WITH REGARD TO THIS SOFTWARE INCLUDING ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES
    OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHOR BE LIABLE
    FOR ANY SPECIAL, DIRECT, INDIRECT, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR ANY
    DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN
    AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT
    OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE.


    WTFPL license

    DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO PUBLIC LICENSE
    Version 2, December 2004

    Copyright (C) 2004 Sam Hocevar <sam@hocevar.net>

    Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim or modified
    copies of this license document, and changing it is allowed as long
    as the name is changed.

    DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO PUBLIC LICENSE
    TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR COPYING, DISTRIBUTION AND MODIFICATION

    0. You just DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO.


    The Apache license looks like the lawyers had their hands in it but cut
    through the boilerplate and it's another permissive license.

    https://gustavopinto.medium.com/why-the-mit-license-is-much-more-used- then-gpl-3-2b3fa4271d6b

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to DFS on Thu May 16 13:12:08 2024
    DFS wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

    GPL 3

    <snip>

    Win 11 Pro

    <snip>

    The Windows EULA is a straightforward legal contract, while the GPL is a
    pile of nonsense.

    First... Apples and oranges. A general license applicable to all GPL'ed software whether for usage or development, versus a specific product license restrictly solely to usage. You can't change a byte of Windows code yourself.

    Second... You are free to choose GPL 2 if desired, as Linus Torvalds has done. It's a bit less restrictive.

    And you actually simplified it a bit, as there are also GNU Free Documenation and Library GPL licenses.

    If I were you, Winboi, I'd hire an attorney :-D

    --
    Your own qualities will help prevent your advancement in the world.

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  • From Relf@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 16 10:47:58 2024
    Relf License: Sue me.

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  • From Andrzej Matuch@21:1/5 to chrisv on Thu May 16 21:57:27 2024
    On Thu, 16 May 2024 16:29:50 -0500, chrisv wrote:

    some dumb fsck wrote:

    The Windows EULA is a straightforward legal contract,

    ...which is all about preserving Micro$oft's rights, at the expense of
    yours.

    +1

    while the GPL is a pile of nonsense.

    ...according to a ridiculous troll who lives in an upside-down world.

    Back in the real world, it's facilited the availability of tons of great software and has had an enormously positive impact upon the world.

    There is no denying that. Not only has it allowed for hardware to last
    longer and for people to do more with the hardware (because softtware you
    would have to pay for is available for free, legally), it has neutralized
    any form of bullying the corporations could have done against up-and-
    coming businesses, small nations and regular people. The mere fact that
    Linux is around is what allows Cuba to circumvent unfair embargoes to keep
    up technologically, allowed Russia to laugh as both Microsoft and Apple
    decided to blacklist the nation in addition to allowing Google to quickly respond to iOS to create a competing operating system any manufacturer
    could use to compete in the smartphone market. For me, open-source is what
    has alowed for Usenet to stay alive as the only tools available to access
    the forums some asshole American politician decided to kill are open-
    source.

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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 16 16:29:50 2024
    some dumb fsck wrote:

    The Windows EULA is a straightforward legal contract,

    ...which is all about preserving Micro$oft's rights, at the expense of
    yours.

    while the GPL is a pile of nonsense.

    ...according to a ridiculous troll who lives in an upside-down world.

    Back in the real world, it's facilited the availability of tons of
    great software and has had an enormously positive impact upon the
    world.

    --
    Advocate: Even Torvalds used [the GPL] for his kernel, and I don't
    think he regrets it.

    "Hadron" Quack, lying shamelessly: Yes he does.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to DFS on Fri May 17 03:30:42 2024
    On Thu, 16 May 2024 07:57:50 -0400, DFS wrote:

    (iv)  work around any technical restrictions or limitations in the
    software;

    ...

    The Windows EULA is a straightforward legal contract ...

    Seems like the above clause doesn’t actually allow you to add any features that the OS doesn’t already have.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 19 10:44:16 2024
    Le 17-05-2024, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> a écrit :
    On Thu, 16 May 2024 07:57:50 -0400, DFS wrote:

    (iv)  work around any technical restrictions or limitations in the
    software;

    ...

    The Windows EULA is a straightforward legal contract ...

    Seems like the above clause doesn’t actually allow you to add any features that the OS doesn’t already have.

    It's easier that way. You are not allowed to change anything, so you
    don't work on it and there is nothing to restrict on the modifications
    you couldn't have done.

    With the GPL, on the other side, it's more difficult because you provide
    your changes mixed with the initial code. So it needs to define how your
    work can be prevail on the code provided by others.

    --
    Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
    https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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