• Responsive projects (was: Re: My 138 $ Amazon order ( for 6pm today ).)

    From vallor@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 9 23:42:34 2024
    On Thu, 9 May 2024 11:47:23 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
    wrote in <v1ir6d$o14n$1@dont-email.me>:

    Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

    On Thu, 09 May 2024 04:34:14 +0000, rbowman wrote:

    On Wed, 8 May 2024 19:39:09 -0400, DFS wrote:

    Here's what I posted to cola Apr 2019, when running Solus Linux with
    the Budgie desktop.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budgie_(desktop_environment)

    Could you possibly find a more obscure/fucked up distro?

    For what it's worth, I appreciate that DFS is looking for minuscule
    problems in Linux and pointing them out. You can't make anything better if >> you're not going to be honest about its flaws. Unfortunately, even after
    he points out the flaws and submits bug reports, the developers don't seem >> to do anything to fix it.

    That's a project problem, not a platform problem.

    Microsoft itself seems to treat issue reports in a similar manner to bad projects. So often in a Microsoft help forum, you'll get non-answers or no answers, with user's getting plaintive about the lack of help.

    Other companies act the same, all too often.

    I wouldn't ding small open-source team for being slow in responding to bugs, as
    they may have other more important things on their plate.

    I will note one responsive project: Meson, on GitHub. Meson was using a file called "meson_options.txt" to hold default values for project options. I wrote
    up an issue about it (as had others earlier, apparently), and I noted that the "txt" extension is too generic, and that I edited my /etc/DIR_COLORS file so that I could grok a directory listing faster. And in version 1.1 IIRC, voila, there was meson.options to supplement meson.build.

    I posted an issue for gmime yesterday, and ended up in a dialogue
    with the lead developer.

    Pan users will note that I was bird-dogging a problem that has plagued
    pan since they moved to gmime for handling headers -- currently,
    Newsgroups: lines don't wrap properly, and get MIME-encoded
    if they are too long. News servers choke on that. (My C is too rusty
    to fix it easily, but I can see where the fix should go.)

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to vallor on Tue May 14 01:50:18 2024
    vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote at 23:42 this Thursday (GMT):
    On Thu, 9 May 2024 11:47:23 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote in <v1ir6d$o14n$1@dont-email.me>:
    [snip]
    I wouldn't ding small open-source team for being slow in responding to bugs, as
    they may have other more important things on their plate.

    I will note one responsive project: Meson, on GitHub. Meson was using a file >> called "meson_options.txt" to hold default values for project options. I wrote
    up an issue about it (as had others earlier, apparently), and I noted that >> the "txt" extension is too generic, and that I edited my /etc/DIR_COLORS file
    so that I could grok a directory listing faster. And in version 1.1 IIRC,
    voila, there was meson.options to supplement meson.build.

    I posted an issue for gmime yesterday, and ended up in a dialogue
    with the lead developer.

    Pan users will note that I was bird-dogging a problem that has plagued
    pan since they moved to gmime for handling headers -- currently,
    Newsgroups: lines don't wrap properly, and get MIME-encoded
    if they are too long. News servers choke on that. (My C is too rusty
    to fix it easily, but I can see where the fix should go.)


    That explains why I see random MIME messages..
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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to candycanearter07@candycanearter07.n on Tue May 14 17:00:21 2024
    On Tue, 14 May 2024 01:50:18 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote in <v1ug0q$3tlkd$22@dont-email.me>:

    vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote at 23:42 this Thursday (GMT):
    On Thu, 9 May 2024 11:47:23 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
    <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
    wrote in <v1ir6d$o14n$1@dont-email.me>:
    [snip]
    I wouldn't ding small open-source team for being slow in responding to
    bugs, as they may have other more important things on their plate.

    I will note one responsive project: Meson, on GitHub. Meson was using
    a file called "meson_options.txt" to hold default values for project
    options. I wrote up an issue about it (as had others earlier,
    apparently), and I noted that the "txt" extension is too generic, and
    that I edited my /etc/DIR_COLORS file so that I could grok a directory
    listing faster. And in version 1.1 IIRC, voila, there was
    meson.options to supplement meson.build.

    I posted an issue for gmime yesterday, and ended up in a dialogue with
    the lead developer.

    Pan users will note that I was bird-dogging a problem that has plagued
    pan since they moved to gmime for handling headers -- currently,
    Newsgroups: lines don't wrap properly, and get MIME-encoded if they are
    too long. News servers choke on that. (My C is too rusty to fix it
    easily, but I can see where the fix should go.)


    That explains why I see random MIME messages..

    If you're talking about Usenet articles, they're all
    supposed to be at least Mime 1.0 at this point, at least
    to be RFC-compliant.

    If you look around, you'll see most newsreaders post with
    the header:

    MIME-Version: 1.0

    Along with Content-type: and Content-Transfer-Encoding:
    headers.

    (slrn is an exception, not the rule. It hasn't been
    updated in over a decade, if I'm not mistaken.)

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to vallor on Fri May 17 02:35:08 2024
    On Thu, 9 May 2024 23:42:34 -0000 (UTC), vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote
    in <v1jn1a$smg8$1@dont-email.me>:

    On Thu, 9 May 2024 11:47:23 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
    <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
    wrote in <v1ir6d$o14n$1@dont-email.me>:

    Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

    On Thu, 09 May 2024 04:34:14 +0000, rbowman wrote:

    On Wed, 8 May 2024 19:39:09 -0400, DFS wrote:

    Here's what I posted to cola Apr 2019, when running Solus Linux with >>>>> the Budgie desktop.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budgie_(desktop_environment)

    Could you possibly find a more obscure/fucked up distro?

    For what it's worth, I appreciate that DFS is looking for minuscule
    problems in Linux and pointing them out. You can't make anything
    better if you're not going to be honest about its flaws.
    Unfortunately, even after he points out the flaws and submits bug
    reports, the developers don't seem to do anything to fix it.

    That's a project problem, not a platform problem.

    Microsoft itself seems to treat issue reports in a similar manner to
    bad projects. So often in a Microsoft help forum, you'll get
    non-answers or no answers, with user's getting plaintive about the lack
    of help.

    Other companies act the same, all too often.

    I wouldn't ding small open-source team for being slow in responding to
    bugs, as they may have other more important things on their plate.

    I will note one responsive project: Meson, on GitHub. Meson was using a
    file called "meson_options.txt" to hold default values for project
    options. I wrote up an issue about it (as had others earlier,
    apparently), and I noted that the "txt" extension is too generic, and
    that I edited my /etc/DIR_COLORS file so that I could grok a directory
    listing faster. And in version 1.1 IIRC, voila, there was meson.options
    to supplement meson.build.

    I posted an issue for gmime yesterday, and ended up in a dialogue with
    the lead developer.

    Pan users will note that I was bird-dogging a problem that has plagued
    pan since they moved to gmime for handling headers -- currently,
    Newsgroups: lines don't wrap properly, and get MIME-encoded if they are
    too long. News servers choke on that. (My C is too rusty to fix it
    easily, but I can see where the fix should go.)

    commit a57bcaac6fd9c0a35ab2214c283c2592beb7f663
    [...]
    Date: Sat May 11 11:07:03 2024 -0400

    Added custom formatter for the Newsgroups: header.

    Fixes issue #162
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    'twas tweaked by someone at Microsoft. Consider that.

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