• Comcast claims it will no longer work with Eudora on March 31, 2023?? A

    From gp@rr.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 7 16:11:29 2023
    Comcast claims it will no longer work with Eudora on March 31, 2023??

    I just tested Comcast email with my version of Eudora 7.1 and the test
    message came back from Comcast claiming Eudora will no longer work
    with their email system on March 31, 2023.

    Any workarounds besides changing to another email program or using
    their web interface?

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  • From pyotr filipivich@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 8 09:48:17 2023
    gp@rr.com on Tue, 07 Feb 2023 16:11:29 -0600 typed in comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows the following:
    Comcast claims it will no longer work with Eudora on March 31, 2023??

    I just tested Comcast email with my version of Eudora 7.1 and the test >message came back from Comcast claiming Eudora will no longer work
    with their email system on March 31, 2023.

    Any workarounds besides changing to another email program or using
    their web interface?

    What does Comcast mean by "no longer work with their email
    system"?

    Are they intending to block Eudora?
    ... End "plain old post" (POP) email?
    --
    pyotr filipivich
    This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
    Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
    Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)

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  • From gp@rr.com@21:1/5 to phamp@mindspring.com on Wed Feb 8 17:56:19 2023
    On Wed, 08 Feb 2023 09:48:17 -0800, pyotr filipivich
    <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

    gp@rr.com on Tue, 07 Feb 2023 16:11:29 -0600 typed in >comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows the following:
    Comcast claims it will no longer work with Eudora on March 31, 2023??

    I just tested Comcast email with my version of Eudora 7.1 and the test >>message came back from Comcast claiming Eudora will no longer work
    with their email system on March 31, 2023.

    Any workarounds besides changing to another email program or using
    their web interface?

    What does Comcast mean by "no longer work with their email
    system"?

    Are they intending to block Eudora?
    ... End "plain old post" (POP) email?

    I have used BlueMail and Thunderbird on some friends computers who
    could not get Yahoo and Bellsouth.net emails to work anymore due to
    the limits the companies placed on email clients.

    I had to change how I got Gmail on Eudora due to changes that Gmail
    required. This appears to be happening with many email providers so I
    was not surprised to get the notice from Comcast. I consider Comast to
    be my 3rd in line email program so it is not big deal.

    I am running all the latest patches on Eudora that I know about by the
    way.

    On my wife's computer there was an issue getting Yahoo.com mail to
    load even using the web interface. It would take a long time to load.
    There appeared to be some type of issue with the "TLS protocals". By
    luck I found if I ran her computer using WiFi, then Yahoo mail would
    load fast but as soon as I connected a Cat 6 wired connection it would
    take forever to load the web page. I tried all the suggested fixes
    that Google suggested and the only solution so to give in an run WiFi
    which I hate using on a desktop computer.

    On another friend computer I could only get their email to work if I
    used Firefox, another other browser would not load the web based email
    for Bellsoth.net.

    \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
    Offical Email I got from Comcast:

    Your email application or device needs an update


    To help keep your data safe, we are discontinuing the use of outdated
    security protocols on March 31, 2023. However, some older devices,
    operating systems, and email applications don’t support the newer
    security protocols that we rely on to help protect data in transit,
    including anything you send through your Comcast.net email.

    We've noticed that one of the email applications or devices you're
    using to access your Comcast.net email is out of date and is putting
    your data at risk. If your device or email application is not updated,
    you will not be able to use it to access your Comcast.net email after
    March 31, 2023. To check if a specific email application or device
    meets our criteria, use it to send a test email to xfinity-tls-test@alerts.xfinity.com. Also, keep in mind, that you can
    always access your Comcast.net email by logging into
    connect.xfinity.com through an internet browser.

    If you have already taken action and feel you are receiving this email
    in error, you may disregard this message or use the self-test option
    mentioned above to ensure compliance.

    Your email security is important to us. Thanks for helping us protect
    your data.


    Learn more

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  • From Jim H@21:1/5 to phamp@mindspring.com on Thu Feb 9 02:33:55 2023
    On Wed, 08 Feb 2023 09:48:17 -0800, in <i0o7uh9m7uuadpua1aermgkq6svqbo1gp8@4ax.com>, pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

    gp@rr.com on Tue, 07 Feb 2023 16:11:29 -0600 typed in >comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows the following:
    Comcast claims it will no longer work with Eudora on March 31, 2023??

    I just tested Comcast email with my version of Eudora 7.1 and the test >>message came back from Comcast claiming Eudora will no longer work
    with their email system on March 31, 2023.

    Any workarounds besides changing to another email program or using
    their web interface?

    What does Comcast mean by "no longer work with their email
    system"?

    Are they intending to block Eudora?
    ... End "plain old post" (POP) email?


    No, they mean they know Eudora only does TLSv1, which has been
    replaced by TLSv2, which the Hermes patch will add to Eudora by
    completely reinstalling Eudora along with new files that control
    SSL/TLS..

    HOWEVER, I wouldn't install Hermes. I'd download the following:
    https://www.maclean.com/downloads/QCSSL_Update.zip

    That's Pete Maclean's SSL patch from last July... the same as the
    Hermes patch minus reinstalling all of Eudora. It includes
    documentation on how to "install" [copy 3 files] and configure Eudora.
    It contains directions for installation. You will need to configure
    things correctly in Eudora.

    Below are the relevant settings in Eudora.ini that were used for
    Comcast email with no problems [some may not be needed? but won't
    hurt]. The ones that that are critical are the two .version=9 lines.

    [Settings]
    SmtpAuthAllowed=1
    UseSubmissionPort=1
    SSLReceiveUse=2
    SSLSendUse=3
    SSLReceiveVersion=9
    SSLSendVersion=9
    SSLAltPortReceiveVersion=0
    SSLAltPortSendVersion=0

    The above is not my work... it was "stolen" from a post by George
    Allen
    --
    Jim H

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  • From gp@rr.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 8 21:30:06 2023
    On Thu, 09 Feb 2023 02:33:55 +0000, Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 08 Feb 2023 09:48:17 -0800, in ><i0o7uh9m7uuadpua1aermgkq6svqbo1gp8@4ax.com>, pyotr filipivich ><phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

    gp@rr.com on Tue, 07 Feb 2023 16:11:29 -0600 typed in >>comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows the following:
    Comcast claims it will no longer work with Eudora on March 31, 2023??

    I just tested Comcast email with my version of Eudora 7.1 and the test >>>message came back from Comcast claiming Eudora will no longer work
    with their email system on March 31, 2023.

    Any workarounds besides changing to another email program or using
    their web interface?

    What does Comcast mean by "no longer work with their email
    system"?

    Are they intending to block Eudora?
    ... End "plain old post" (POP) email?


    No, they mean they know Eudora only does TLSv1, which has been
    replaced by TLSv2, which the Hermes patch will add to Eudora by
    completely reinstalling Eudora along with new files that control
    SSL/TLS..

    HOWEVER, I wouldn't install Hermes. I'd download the following:
    https://www.maclean.com/downloads/QCSSL_Update.zip

    That's Pete Maclean's SSL patch from last July... the same as the
    Hermes patch minus reinstalling all of Eudora. It includes
    documentation on how to "install" [copy 3 files] and configure Eudora.
    It contains directions for installation. You will need to configure
    things correctly in Eudora.

    Below are the relevant settings in Eudora.ini that were used for
    Comcast email with no problems [some may not be needed? but won't
    hurt]. The ones that that are critical are the two .version=9 lines.

    [Settings]
    SmtpAuthAllowed=1
    UseSubmissionPort=1
    SSLReceiveUse=2
    SSLSendUse=3
    SSLReceiveVersion=9
    SSLSendVersion=9
    SSLAltPortReceiveVersion=0
    SSLAltPortSendVersion=0

    The above is not my work... it was "stolen" from a post by George
    Allen

    Thanks I will try the above suggestion as soon as I get a good and
    updated backup.

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  • From Grant Taylor@21:1/5 to pyotr filipivich on Wed Feb 8 22:50:28 2023
    On 2/8/23 10:48 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
    What does Comcast mean by "no longer work with their email system"?

    I wonder if they're following Google's lead and going to start to
    require OAuth.



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    unix || die

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  • From Dennis Lee Bieber@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 9 13:14:40 2023
    On Thu, 09 Feb 2023 02:33:55 +0000, Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid>
    declaimed the following:


    No, they mean they know Eudora only does TLSv1, which has been
    replaced by TLSv2, which the Hermes patch will add to Eudora by
    completely reinstalling Eudora along with new files that control
    SSL/TLS..

    Really? Before switching to using Pandora I didn't have to reinstall Eudora to update the SSL library.

    https://sourceforge.net/projects/hermesmail/files/HermSSL.zip/download

    Contains ONLY the SSL libraries, and instructions for how to install it so
    that Eudora makes use of the change.


    --
    Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
    wlfraed@ix.netcom.com http://wlfraed.microdiversity.freeddns.org/

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  • From pyotr filipivich@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 10 12:57:01 2023
    Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> on Thu, 09 Feb 2023 02:33:55 +0000
    typed in comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows the following:
    On Wed, 08 Feb 2023 09:48:17 -0800, in ><i0o7uh9m7uuadpua1aermgkq6svqbo1gp8@4ax.com>, pyotr filipivich ><phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

    gp@rr.com on Tue, 07 Feb 2023 16:11:29 -0600 typed in >>comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows the following:
    Comcast claims it will no longer work with Eudora on March 31, 2023??

    I just tested Comcast email with my version of Eudora 7.1 and the test >>>message came back from Comcast claiming Eudora will no longer work
    with their email system on March 31, 2023.

    Any workarounds besides changing to another email program or using
    their web interface?

    What does Comcast mean by "no longer work with their email
    system"?

    Are they intending to block Eudora?
    ... End "plain old post" (POP) email?


    No, they mean they know Eudora only does TLSv1, which has been
    replaced by TLSv2, which the Hermes patch will add to Eudora by
    completely reinstalling Eudora along with new files that control
    SSL/TLS..

    HOWEVER, I wouldn't install Hermes. I'd download the following:
    https://www.maclean.com/downloads/QCSSL_Update.zip

    That's Pete Maclean's SSL patch from last July... the same as the
    Hermes patch minus reinstalling all of Eudora. It includes
    documentation on how to "install" [copy 3 files] and configure Eudora.
    It contains directions for installation. You will need to configure
    things correctly in Eudora.

    Eurff. I've been porting the Eudora directory from box to box,
    since Windows single digits. I'm afraid of the amount of junk I
    don't need, but do not feel up to taking the time to remove files and
    test if I broke something.
    Or maybe I already did that. I just checked, I could have sworn I
    still had the Netscape extension ...


    Below are the relevant settings in Eudora.ini that were used for
    Comcast email with no problems [some may not be needed? but won't
    hurt]. The ones that that are critical are the two .version=9 lines.

    [Settings]
    SmtpAuthAllowed=1
    UseSubmissionPort=1
    SSLReceiveUse=2
    SSLSendUse=3
    SSLReceiveVersion=9
    SSLSendVersion=9
    SSLAltPortReceiveVersion=0
    SSLAltPortSendVersion=0

    The above is not my work... it was "stolen" from a post by George
    Allen

    Thanks I will save this and take a gander at it "in due course".
    --
    pyotr filipivich
    This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
    Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
    Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)

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  • From gp@rr.com@21:1/5 to gp@rr.com on Fri Feb 17 08:49:53 2023
    On Wed, 08 Feb 2023 21:30:06 -0600, gp@rr.com wrote:

    On Thu, 09 Feb 2023 02:33:55 +0000, Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 08 Feb 2023 09:48:17 -0800, in >><i0o7uh9m7uuadpua1aermgkq6svqbo1gp8@4ax.com>, pyotr filipivich >><phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

    gp@rr.com on Tue, 07 Feb 2023 16:11:29 -0600 typed in >>>comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows the following:
    Comcast claims it will no longer work with Eudora on March 31, 2023??

    I just tested Comcast email with my version of Eudora 7.1 and the test >>>>message came back from Comcast claiming Eudora will no longer work
    with their email system on March 31, 2023.

    Any workarounds besides changing to another email program or using >>>>their web interface?

    What does Comcast mean by "no longer work with their email
    system"?

    Are they intending to block Eudora?
    ... End "plain old post" (POP) email?


    No, they mean they know Eudora only does TLSv1, which has been
    replaced by TLSv2, which the Hermes patch will add to Eudora by
    completely reinstalling Eudora along with new files that control
    SSL/TLS..

    HOWEVER, I wouldn't install Hermes. I'd download the following:
    https://www.maclean.com/downloads/QCSSL_Update.zip

    That's Pete Maclean's SSL patch from last July... the same as the
    Hermes patch minus reinstalling all of Eudora. It includes
    documentation on how to "install" [copy 3 files] and configure Eudora.
    It contains directions for installation. You will need to configure
    things correctly in Eudora.

    Below are the relevant settings in Eudora.ini that were used for
    Comcast email with no problems [some may not be needed? but won't
    hurt]. The ones that that are critical are the two .version=9 lines.

    [Settings]
    SmtpAuthAllowed=1
    UseSubmissionPort=1
    SSLReceiveUse=2
    SSLSendUse=3
    SSLReceiveVersion=9
    SSLSendVersion=9
    SSLAltPortReceiveVersion=0
    SSLAltPortSendVersion=0

    The above is not my work... it was "stolen" from a post by George
    Allen

    Thanks I will try the above suggestion as soon as I get a good and
    updated backup.

    Thanks for these tips.

    I was able to following the instructions in the Release Notes file and
    got Eudora to "Pass" the Comcast test. I did have to add the following
    to my Eudora.ini file under my Comcast Persona section. It now works
    on my Win 7 and Win 11 computers.

    SSLSendVersion=9

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