• 30 years since ANSI Common Lisp approved in 1994

    From Paolo Amoroso@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 2 13:15:38 2024
    In 2024 it's 30 years since X3J13 approved ANSI Common Lisp in 1994.
    But when in the year? Is it known in which month or day was the
    standard formally approved?

    I searched a bit but there doesn’t seem to be much metadata online.

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  • From Madhu@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 2 20:31:36 2024
    * Paolo Amoroso <20240102131538.097304ef @penguin> :
    Wrote on Tue, 2 Jan 2024 13:15:38 +0100:

    In 2024 it's 30 years since X3J13 approved ANSI Common Lisp in 1994.
    But when in the year? Is it known in which month or day was the
    standard formally approved?

    I searched a bit but there doesn’t seem to be much metadata online.

    There was a blog post curated on planet.lisp.org a few years ago
    "Max-Gerd Retzlaff: On the different versions of the ANSI Common Lisp
    Standard X3.226-1994" with informationa and links, it's still up.

    https://blog.matroid.org/display/79

    quoting from that: "There has never been a "revision" of the standard
    and that means there was never a change to the standard since first
    approval of the standard on December 8, 1994 that was considered "substantive"."

    The X3ji3 existed way before that. i've seen citations like this:

    DG Bobrow, L DeMichiel, RP Gabriel, G Kiczales, D Moon, and D
    Keene. Clos specification; x3j13 document 88-002r. ACM-SIGPLAN Not, 23,
    1988.

    Maybe December 8 1994 may be suffice to compute the yahrzeits.

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  • From Stefan Ram@21:1/5 to Paolo Amoroso on Tue Jan 2 16:09:29 2024
    Paolo Amoroso <info@paoloamoroso.com> writes:
    In 2024 it's 30 years since X3J13 approved ANSI Common Lisp in 1994.
    But when in the year?

    December 8.

    Is it known in which month or day was the
    standard formally approved?

    Yes.

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  • From Paolo Amoroso@21:1/5 to Madhu on Tue Jan 2 18:20:28 2024
    On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 20:31:36 +0530
    Madhu <enometh@meer.net> wrote:

    Maybe December 8 1994 may be suffice to compute the yahrzeits.

    Thanks Madhu and Stefan, this is what I was interested in.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Paolo Amoroso on Tue Jan 2 18:42:28 2024
    On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 13:15:38 +0100, Paolo Amoroso wrote:

    In 2024 it's 30 years since X3J13 approved ANSI Common Lisp in 1994.

    Is that the one with all the cruft to deal with filespec syntax on long- obsolete OSes like VMS?

    They could clean up and simplify the spec so much by simply dropping all
    that legacy baggage.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Raymond Wiker on Tue Jan 2 19:36:35 2024
    On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 20:15:19 +0100, Raymond Wiker wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:

    On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 13:15:38 +0100, Paolo Amoroso wrote:

    In 2024 it's 30 years since X3J13 approved ANSI Common Lisp in 1994.

    Is that the one with all the cruft to deal with filespec syntax on
    long-
    obsolete OSes like VMS?

    They could clean up and simplify the spec so much by simply dropping
    all that legacy baggage.

    You really have no idea how this works, do you?

    Do tell.

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