• Ubuntu 20.04 - I seem to be in a vicious circle of dependencies

    From Henry Crun@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 2 08:58:28 2022
    Running 20.o4, up till now entirely updated.

    My tale of woe (And apologies for it's length):

    ~$ sudo apt update
    Hit:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease
    Get:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease [56.6 kB]
    Hit:3 http://ppa.launchpad.net/gerardpuig/ppa/ubuntu focal InRelease
    Hit:4 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal InRelease
    Hit:5 http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates InRelease
    Hit:6 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kelebek333/kablosuz/ubuntu focal InRelease
    Hit:7 http://ppa.launchpad.net/mkusb/unstable/ubuntu focal InRelease
    Hit:8 http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-next/ubuntu focal InRelease Fetched 56.6 kB in 1s (41.1 kB/s)
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    1 package can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see it.
    ...
    :~$ apt list --upgradable
    Listing... Done
    libjpeg-turbo-progs/oldstable 1:1.5.2-2+deb10u1 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.0.3-0ubuntu1.20.04.1]
    N: There are 2 additional versions. Please use the '-a' switch to see them.
    ...

    ~$ sudo apt upgrade
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    Calculating upgrade... Done
    The following packages have been kept back:
    libjpeg-turbo-progs
    0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
    ...
    ~$ sudo apt install libjpeg-turbo-progs
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
    requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
    distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
    or been moved out of Incoming.
    The following information may help to resolve the situation:

    The following packages have unmet dependencies:
    libjpeg-turbo-progs : Depends: libturbojpeg0 (>= 1.4.0) but it is not going to be installed
    E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
    ...
    But:
    ~$ sudo apt install libturbojpeg0
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
    requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
    distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
    or been moved out of Incoming.
    The following information may help to resolve the situation:

    The following packages have unmet dependencies:
    libjpeg8 : Depends: libjpeg-turbo8 (>= 1.1.90+svn722-1ubuntu6) but it is not going to be installed
    libqt5svg5 : Depends: libqt5widgets5 (>= 5.12.8+dfsg~) but it is not going to be installed
    qt5-gtk-platformtheme : Depends: libgtk-3-0 (>= 3.9.10) but it is not going to be installed
    E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
    ...
    ~$ sudo apt install libjpeg8
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    libjpeg8 is already the newest version (8c-2ubuntu8).
    libjpeg8 set to manually installed.
    0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.


    Also, checking for held packages:
    ~$ apt-mark showhold
    ~$ <== nothing there

    And checking in case libjpeg-turbo-progs is held in a partial phase:

    apt-cache policy libjpeg-turbo-progs
    libjpeg-turbo-progs:
    Installed: 2.0.3-0ubuntu1.20.04.1
    Candidate: 1:1.5.2-2+deb10u1
    Version table:
    1:1.5.2-2+deb10u1 300
    300 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages
    *** 2.0.3-0ubuntu1.20.04.1 100
    100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
    2.0.3-0ubuntu1 500
    500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal/universe amd64 Packages
    (no % characters)

    Apologies once again for the length of this post. All and any comments gratefully accepted,
    And if I'm being an idiot, let me know.

    Thanks,
    Mike

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to Henry Crun on Fri Sep 2 08:55:59 2022
    On Fri, 2 Sep 2022 08:58:28 +0300
    Henry Crun <mike@rechtman.com> wrote:

    ~$ sudo apt update
    Hit:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease
    Get:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease [56.6 kB]

    You have Ubuntu, but you also have Debian's repos in your sources.list.
    This will create a huge mess.
    Reinstall with Ubuntu 22.04 and only use repositories that are mode for
    your OS. Don't place repos from other operating systems in your
    sources.list.

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  • From Henry Crun@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Fri Sep 2 11:43:25 2022
    On 02/09/2022 9:55, Marco Moock wrote:
    On Fri, 2 Sep 2022 08:58:28 +0300
    Henry Crun <mike@rechtman.com> wrote:

    ~$ sudo apt update
    Hit:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease
    Get:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease [56.6 kB]

    You have Ubuntu, but you also have Debian's repos in your sources.list.
    This will create a huge mess.
    Reinstall with Ubuntu 22.04 and only use repositories that are mode for
    your OS. Don't place repos from other operating systems in your
    sources.list.


    The debian repositories have been there since 2020, when I used them to install chromium without using snap.
    They have never caused problems before, and are not in use currently.
    I was planning on staying with 20.04 for another few months, as it is supported until 2025
    Rather than upgrading now, I will grit my teeth and ignore the apt messages (The don't seem to hurt, just bother my
    sense of cleanlines...)

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to Henry Crun on Fri Sep 2 14:12:51 2022
    On Fri, 2 Sep 2022 11:43:25 +0300
    Henry Crun <mike@rechtman.com> wrote:

    The debian repositories have been there since 2020, when I used them
    to install chromium without using snap. They have never caused
    problems before, and are not in use currently. I was planning on
    staying with 20.04 for another few months, as it is supported until
    2025 Rather than upgrading now, I will grit my teeth and ignore the
    apt messages (The don't seem to hurt, just bother my sense of
    cleanlines...)

    You can't install updates in that state, your system will be outdated
    soon.
    You need to da clean install. If you don't like snap, but need software
    from it, you can check if there is a special repo that only contains
    the packages you need that is designed for you OS, but activating a
    repo that is from another distribution will create a huge mess, you
    already have that on your current system.

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  • From Dan Purgert@21:1/5 to Henry Crun on Fri Sep 2 11:58:29 2022
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    Henry Crun wrote:
    On 02/09/2022 9:55, Marco Moock wrote:
    On Fri, 2 Sep 2022 08:58:28 +0300
    Henry Crun <mike@rechtman.com> wrote:

    ~$ sudo apt update
    Hit:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease
    Get:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease [56.6 kB]

    You have Ubuntu, but you also have Debian's repos in your sources.list.
    This will create a huge mess.
    Reinstall with Ubuntu 22.04 and only use repositories that are mode for
    your OS. Don't place repos from other operating systems in your
    sources.list.


    The debian repositories have been there since 2020, when I used them
    to install chromium without using snap.
    They have never caused problems before, and are not in use
    currently.

    They _are_ in use (as evidenced by being in your repo caches getting
    updated), and are causing you trouble now; as Debian and Ubuntu's
    version of the stuck application have diverged in requirements.


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  • From Jonathan N. Little@21:1/5 to Henry Crun on Fri Sep 2 12:20:44 2022
    Henry Crun wrote:
    On 02/09/2022 9:55, Marco Moock wrote:
    On Fri, 2 Sep 2022 08:58:28 +0300
    Henry Crun <mike@rechtman.com> wrote:

    ~$ sudo apt update
    Hit:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease
    Get:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease [56.6 kB]

    You have Ubuntu, but you also have Debian's repos in your sources.list.
    This will create a huge mess.
    Reinstall with Ubuntu 22.04 and only use repositories that are mode for
    your OS. Don't place repos from other operating systems in your
    sources.list.


    The debian repositories have been there since 2020, when I used them to install chromium without using snap.
    They have never caused problems before, and are not in use currently.
    I was planning on staying with 20.04 for another few months, as it is supported until 2025
    Rather than upgrading now, I will grit my teeth and ignore the apt
    messages (The don't seem to hurt, just bother my sense of cleanlines...)

    or next time use a PPA over Debian repos as I did for deb version of
    Firefox in 20.04. Here is what I found for Chromium

    <https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2020/06/install-chromium-via-deb-ubuntu-20-04/>


    --
    Take care,

    Jonathan
    -------------------
    LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
    http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

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  • From Henry Crun@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Sat Sep 3 06:45:23 2022
    On 02/09/2022 9:55, Marco Moock wrote:
    On Fri, 2 Sep 2022 08:58:28 +0300
    Henry Crun <mike@rechtman.com> wrote:

    ~$ sudo apt update
    Hit:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease
    Get:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease [56.6 kB]

    You have Ubuntu, but you also have Debian's repos in your sources.list.
    This will create a huge mess.
    Reinstall with Ubuntu 22.04 and only use repositories that are mode for
    your OS. Don't place repos from other operating systems in your
    sources.list.



    O.K. You were all right, and I was wrong. Mea culpa!!
    Deleted all debian-related files from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian*
    The original problem disappeared, and now apt update runs clean.
    I hope I haven't broken anything serious,
    Apologies once again - I should have been less obstinate!

    Thanks to all who responded, I'll try to be more careful in future.
    Mike

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Henry Crun on Fri Sep 2 21:42:40 2022
    On 9/1/22 22:58, Henry Crun wrote:
    Running 20.o4, up till now entirely updated.

    My tale of woe (And apologies for it's length):

    ~$ sudo apt update
    Hit:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease
    Get:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease [56.6 kB]
    Hit:3 http://ppa.launchpad.net/gerardpuig/ppa/ubuntu focal InRelease
    Hit:4 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal InRelease
    Hit:5 http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates InRelease
    Hit:6 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kelebek333/kablosuz/ubuntu focal InRelease Hit:7 http://ppa.launchpad.net/mkusb/unstable/ubuntu focal InRelease
    Hit:8 http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-next/ubuntu focal InRelease
    Fetched 56.6 kB in 1s (41.1 kB/s)
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    1 package can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see it.
    ...
    :~$ apt list --upgradable
    Listing... Done
    libjpeg-turbo-progs/oldstable 1:1.5.2-2+deb10u1 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.0.3-0ubuntu1.20.04.1]
    N: There are 2 additional versions. Please use the '-a' switch to see them. ...

    ~$ sudo apt upgrade
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    Calculating upgrade... Done
    The following packages have been kept back:
      libjpeg-turbo-progs
    0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
    ...
    ~$ sudo apt install libjpeg-turbo-progs
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
    requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
    or been moved out of Incoming.
    The following information may help to resolve the situation:

    The following packages have unmet dependencies:
     libjpeg-turbo-progs : Depends: libturbojpeg0 (>= 1.4.0) but it is not going to be installed
    E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
    ...
    But:
    ~$ sudo apt install libturbojpeg0
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
    requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
    or been moved out of Incoming.
    The following information may help to resolve the situation:

    The following packages have unmet dependencies:
     libjpeg8 : Depends: libjpeg-turbo8 (>= 1.1.90+svn722-1ubuntu6) but it
    is not going to be installed
     libqt5svg5 : Depends: libqt5widgets5 (>= 5.12.8+dfsg~) but it is not
    going to be installed
     qt5-gtk-platformtheme : Depends: libgtk-3-0 (>= 3.9.10) but it is not going to be installed
    E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be
    caused by held packages.
    ...
    ~$ sudo apt install libjpeg8
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    libjpeg8 is already the newest version (8c-2ubuntu8).
    libjpeg8 set to manually installed.
    0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.


    Also, checking for held packages:
    ~$ apt-mark showhold
    ~$                     <== nothing there

    And checking in case libjpeg-turbo-progs is held in a partial phase:

    apt-cache policy libjpeg-turbo-progs
    libjpeg-turbo-progs:
      Installed: 2.0.3-0ubuntu1.20.04.1
      Candidate: 1:1.5.2-2+deb10u1
      Version table:
         1:1.5.2-2+deb10u1 300
            300 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages
     *** 2.0.3-0ubuntu1.20.04.1 100
            100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
         2.0.3-0ubuntu1 500
            500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal/universe amd64 Packages
    (no % characters)

    Apologies once again for the length of this post. All and any comments gratefully accepted,
    And if I'm being an idiot, let me know.

    Thanks,
    Mike

    i think your problem is a system which depends on Snap or Flatpaks or other such nonsense. Cannot Ubuntu package programs
    as Debs?
    Nearly everywhere I hear of problems with dependencies the
    system are loaded with snaps or flatpaks and you have mixed in
    Debian repositories as well. Not necessarily an idiot but overly
    adventurous.

    Sometime I go outside of the regular repositories of
    the distribution I use to pull deprecated programs out of
    archives. Not often and sometimes they do not work but
    I seldom try to find an alien package format.

    bliss - brought to you by the power and ease of PCLinuxOS
    the Perfect Computer Linus Operating System(for me),
    and a minor case of hypergraphia.
    Linux 5.19.6

    --
    bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 3 07:42:33 2022
    Am Samstag, 03. September 2022, um 06:45:23 Uhr schrieb Henry Crun:

    Deleted all debian-related files from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian*
    The original problem disappeared, and now apt update runs clean.
    I hope I haven't broken anything serious,

    I don't think so if packages from Debian 10 were installed.
    You should check which packages have no installation candidate anymore,
    and therefore are local.

    Run this to see them:
    LANG=EN apt list |grep 'local\]'

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 3 08:27:57 2022
    Am Freitag, 02. September 2022, um 21:42:40 Uhr schrieb Bobbie Sellers:

    Nearly everywhere I hear of problems with dependencies the
    system are loaded with snaps or flatpaks and you have mixed in
    Debian repositories as well. Not necessarily an idiot but overly adventurous.

    No, snap and flatpak are not the problem here. The problem is that
    Debian repositories are in the sources.list of an Ubuntu system. This
    will create a huge dependency mess. Installation scripts may also be incompatible.

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  • From Henry Crun@21:1/5 to Bobbie Sellers on Sat Sep 3 11:06:29 2022
    On 03/09/2022 7:42, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
    On 9/1/22 22:58, Henry Crun wrote:
    Running 20.o4, up till now entirely updated.

    My tale of woe (And apologies for it's length):

    ~$ sudo apt update
    Hit:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease
    Get:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease [56.6 kB]
    Hit:3 http://ppa.launchpad.net/gerardpuig/ppa/ubuntu focal InRelease
    Hit:4 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal InRelease
    Hit:5 http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates InRelease
    Hit:6 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kelebek333/kablosuz/ubuntu focal InRelease
    Hit:7 http://ppa.launchpad.net/mkusb/unstable/ubuntu focal InRelease
    Hit:8 http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-next/ubuntu focal InRelease
    Fetched 56.6 kB in 1s (41.1 kB/s)
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    1 package can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see it.
    ...
    :~$ apt list --upgradable
    Listing... Done
    libjpeg-turbo-progs/oldstable 1:1.5.2-2+deb10u1 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.0.3-0ubuntu1.20.04.1]
    N: There are 2 additional versions. Please use the '-a' switch to see them. >> ...

    ~$ sudo apt upgrade
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    Calculating upgrade... Done
    The following packages have been kept back:
       libjpeg-turbo-progs
    0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
    ...
    ~$ sudo apt install libjpeg-turbo-progs
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
    requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
    distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
    or been moved out of Incoming.
    The following information may help to resolve the situation:

    The following packages have unmet dependencies:
      libjpeg-turbo-progs : Depends: libturbojpeg0 (>= 1.4.0) but it is not going to be installed
    E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
    ...
    But:
    ~$ sudo apt install libturbojpeg0
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
    requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
    distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
    or been moved out of Incoming.
    The following information may help to resolve the situation:

    The following packages have unmet dependencies:
      libjpeg8 : Depends: libjpeg-turbo8 (>= 1.1.90+svn722-1ubuntu6) but it is not going to be installed
      libqt5svg5 : Depends: libqt5widgets5 (>= 5.12.8+dfsg~) but it is not going to be installed
      qt5-gtk-platformtheme : Depends: libgtk-3-0 (>= 3.9.10) but it is not going to be installed
    E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
    ...
    ~$ sudo apt install libjpeg8
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    libjpeg8 is already the newest version (8c-2ubuntu8).
    libjpeg8 set to manually installed.
    0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.


    Also, checking for held packages:
    ~$ apt-mark showhold
    ~$                     <== nothing there

    And checking in case libjpeg-turbo-progs is held in a partial phase:

    apt-cache policy libjpeg-turbo-progs
    libjpeg-turbo-progs:
       Installed: 2.0.3-0ubuntu1.20.04.1
       Candidate: 1:1.5.2-2+deb10u1
       Version table:
          1:1.5.2-2+deb10u1 300
             300 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages >>   *** 2.0.3-0ubuntu1.20.04.1 100
             100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
          2.0.3-0ubuntu1 500
             500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal/universe amd64 Packages
    (no % characters)

    Apologies once again for the length of this post. All and any comments gratefully accepted,
    And if I'm being an idiot, let me know.

    Thanks,
    Mike

        i think your problem is a system which depends on Snap or Flatpaks or other such nonsense.  Cannot Ubuntu package
    programs
    as Debs?
        Nearly everywhere I hear of problems with dependencies the
    system are loaded with snaps or flatpaks and you have mixed in
    Debian repositories as well.  Not necessarily an idiot but overly adventurous.

        Sometime I go outside of the regular repositories of
    the distribution I use to pull deprecated programs out of
    archives.  Not often and sometimes they do not work but
    I seldom try to find an alien package format.

     bliss - brought to you by the power and ease of PCLinuxOS
           the Perfect Computer Linus Operating System(for me),
              and a minor case of hypergraphia.
            Linux 5.19.6


    To reiterate my apology:



    O.K. You were all right, and I was wrong. Mea culpa!!
    Deleted all debian-related files from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian*
    The original problem disappeared, and now apt update runs clean.
    I hope I haven't broken anything serious,
    Apologies once again - I should have been less obstinate!

    Thanks to all who responded, I'll try to be more careful in future.
    Mike

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  • From Dr. Noah Bodie@21:1/5 to Henry Crun on Sat Sep 3 17:12:00 2022
    On 09/02/2022 02:58 AM, Henry Crun wrote:
    Running 20.o4, up till now entirely updated.

    My tale of woe (And apologies for it's length):


    Switch to MX-Linux :-D

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