Hi,
back between 1996-2006 cirka i was active in groups like
alt.music.spacerock, rec.music.progressive, alt.punk, alt.gothic,
alt.drugs etc and used often the x-no-archive:yes in header so lots of
it isn't archived. I also did lots of trades and met people via Usenet
and my first website up on EUnet.no later mirrored / moved to Tripod
(search "Hawkwind's Electric Library") was proclaimed "ugliest website
on the internet" by someone in alt.gothic in 2000 when i put it on
Tripod and worked on expanding it alot with my HTML on my Windows 95 and Windows XP machines... I used to sit on FTP and upload via NASA. I also
was active in alt.books.moorcock and alt.books.kurt-vonnegut. It is all
died down now, i was tipped to this NG by someone in the
alt.music.blackmetal (I think) group just 10 hours ago... a follow up on
an old thread i replied to recently. I guess everyone uses Chillax etc
crap apps on Android phones etc for binaries but that is KRAP. Thanks
for your attention.. Christian (now on Googlegroups in Gmail)
I been lurking around on Usenet for a few months now, hoping to find
active groups. Sad to see not many use Usenet much anymore, I hope that changes and people rediscover Usenet again.
Michael P. O'Connor <mpop@mikeoconnor.net> wrote:
[...]
"active groups" of course largely depends on your interests. For
example for me, the Windows an Android groups are quite active. (Let me
know if you need some group names.)
Bottom line: Don't dispair, just look for some relatively active
groups and enjoy the exchanges. The number of posters/posts is not
important, just their 'quality', entertainment value, <whatever>.
On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 12:05:06 +0000, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Michael P. O'Connor <mpop@mikeoconnor.net> wrote:
[...]
"active groups" of course largely depends on your interests. For
example for me, the Windows an Android groups are quite active. (Let me know if you need some group names.)
Bottom line: Don't dispair, just look for some relatively active
groups and enjoy the exchanges. The number of posters/posts is not important, just their 'quality', entertainment value, <whatever>.
First, 46 young I like hearing that (Nov of 1976 was when I was born)
Second I will take you up on that offer, I been looking around for video game, board game, sci-fi groups. And your suggestion for Android groups would be good too.
Thanks I do appreciate it
'official' lists of alt groups are hard to get, as alt is unofficial
by nature. (If anyone has some pointers on these, please post them.)
On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 12:05:06 +0000, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Michael P. O'Connor <mpop@mikeoconnor.net> wrote:
[...]
"active groups" of course largely depends on your interests. For
example for me, the Windows an Android groups are quite active. (Let me know if you need some group names.)
Bottom line: Don't dispair, just look for some relatively active
groups and enjoy the exchanges. The number of posters/posts is not important, just their 'quality', entertainment value, <whatever>.
First, 46 young I like hearing that (Nov of 1976 was when I was born)
Second I will take you up on that offer, I been looking around for video game, board game, sci-fi groups. And your suggestion for Android groups would be good too.
Possibly relevant to your interests:
Some of the programming groups are also active, for example
comp.lang.python and comp.lang.c.
rec.arts.cooking was also remarkably busy last time I looked.
Hope that gives you some useful pointers.
Regards,
Rayner
Usenet still has its share of die-hards (I'm on NetNews/Usenet since
a little over four decades). And there are also some 'youngsters' (in
Usenet terms). The youngest I know (and know his age) is 46.
Am 13.06.2023 um 12:05:06 Uhr schrieb Frank Slootweg:
Usenet still has its share of die-hards (I'm on NetNews/Usenet since
a little over four decades). And there are also some 'youngsters' (in
Usenet terms). The youngest I know (and know his age) is 46.
I am 21, so there is another one.
But I am most active in the German de.* groups.
On 2023-06-14, Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:
Am 13.06.2023 um 12:05:06 Uhr schrieb Frank Slootweg:
Usenet still has its share of die-hards (I'm on NetNews/Usenet since
a little over four decades). And there are also some 'youngsters' (in
Usenet terms). The youngest I know (and know his age) is 46.
I am 21, so there is another one.
But I am most active in the German de.* groups.
37 here, but sadly es.* groups are either dead on the technical side except for a monthly Linux related post, or full of wackos in political groups.
I'm trying to revive them with quality content, but it's not easy.
Maybe if some folks from Gemini come here, they could feed each other
with cross contents, as Gemini it's best suited to write articles and
usenet to discuss information.
Am 13.06.2023 um 12:05:06 Uhr schrieb Frank Slootweg:
Usenet still has its share of die-hards (I'm on NetNews/Usenet since
a little over four decades). And there are also some 'youngsters' (in Usenet terms). The youngest I know (and know his age) is 46.
I am 21, so there is another one.
But I am most active in the German de.* groups.
Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:
Am 13.06.2023 um 12:05:06 Uhr schrieb Frank Slootweg:
Usenet still has its share of die-hards (I'm on NetNews/Usenet
since a little over four decades). And there are also some
'youngsters' (in Usenet terms). The youngest I know (and know his
age) is 46.
I am 21, so there is another one.
Wow! If you don't mind, can you tell us how you found out about
Usenet, what triggered your interest, etc..
But I am most active in the German de.* groups.
But also in other groups. IIRC in aus.computers and some of the
Windows group.
Anyway, I'm very glad you're on Usenet. We need all the young blood
we can get.
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 07:07:29 -0700, Christian Mumford wrote:
Hi,
back between 1996-2006 cirka i was active in groups like
alt.music.spacerock, rec.music.progressive, alt.punk, alt.gothic,
alt.drugs etc and used often the x-no-archive:yes in header so lots of
it isn't archived. I also did lots of trades and met people via Usenet
and my first website up on EUnet.no later mirrored / moved to Tripod
(search "Hawkwind's Electric Library") was proclaimed "ugliest website
on the internet" by someone in alt.gothic in 2000 when i put it on
Tripod and worked on expanding it alot with my HTML on my Windows 95 and
Windows XP machines... I used to sit on FTP and upload via NASA. I also
was active in alt.books.moorcock and alt.books.kurt-vonnegut. It is all
died down now, i was tipped to this NG by someone in the
alt.music.blackmetal (I think) group just 10 hours ago... a follow up on
an old thread i replied to recently. I guess everyone uses Chillax etc
crap apps on Android phones etc for binaries but that is KRAP. Thanks
for your attention.. Christian (now on Googlegroups in Gmail)
I been lurking around on Usenet for a few months now, hoping to find
active groups. Sad to see not many use Usenet much anymore, I hope that changes and people rediscover Usenet again.
--Michael
I'm trying to get back on Usenet too. It's been a long time, and I'm
trying to figure out how this all works again.
I think the latest problems with Reddit might cause some people to
come looking, but probably not the general public.
Am 16.06.2023 um 12:37:51 Uhr schrieb Frank Slootweg:
Anyway, I'm very glad you're on Usenet. We need all the young blood
we can get.
Then spread information about Usenet. Without that, nobody will notice
it.
In article <u6k43h$17b29$1@dont-email.me>, mo01@posteo.de says...
Am 16.06.2023 um 12:37:51 Uhr schrieb Frank Slootweg:
Anyway, I'm very glad you're on Usenet. We need all the young blood
we can get.
Then spread information about Usenet. Without that, nobody will notice
it.
Usenet currently has a discoverability problem, for sure. I don't know
of any good way to find or try Usenet from a web browser, unlike back in
the DejaNews days.
Narkive is great but only shows a handful of groups and has no posting ability. Usenetarchives.com is similarly read-only. And it's difficult
to find anything on Google Groups now that the advanced search is gone
and the Usenet groups are all mixed up with Google's own discussion
group service.
I feel like Usenet needs either another large archive site that can
bring new users on board (while somehow making enough money to keep operating), or possibly ways to make it easier to set up and host a news server with a nice easy-to-use front-end so that we end up with a lot of smaller sites participating.
Until someone creates such things: I agree, spread the word and help
some newbies find where the good discussions are!
Rayner Lucas <usenet202101@magic-cookie.co.uknospamplease> wrote:
In article <u6k43h$17b29$1@dont-email.me>, mo01@posteo.de says...
Am 16.06.2023 um 12:37:51 Uhr schrieb Frank Slootweg:
Anyway, I'm very glad you're on Usenet. We need all the young blood
we can get.
Then spread information about Usenet. Without that, nobody will notice
it.
Usenet currently has a discoverability problem, for sure. I don't know
of any good way to find or try Usenet from a web browser, unlike back in
the DejaNews days.
There used to be a way where you could post a <news:...> URL, which,
when excuted by one's (web)browser would invoke and configure one's newsreader, for example Thunderbird, which could then display a 'How to
get started using Usenet' type of message. But nowadays that'll only
work in some cases - if that -, not in most/all cases. At least, I have
given up on that path.
On 2023-06-14, Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:Hello, I am new here. So, how complicated is it to create a group? From
Am 13.06.2023 um 12:05:06 Uhr schrieb Frank Slootweg:
Usenet still has its share of die-hards (I'm on NetNews/Usenet since
a little over four decades). And there are also some 'youngsters' (in
Usenet terms). The youngest I know (and know his age) is 46.
I am 21, so there is another one.
But I am most active in the German de.* groups.
37 here, but sadly es.* groups are either dead on the technical side except for a monthly Linux related post, or full of wackos in political groups.
I'm trying to revive them with quality content, but it's not easy.
Maybe if some folks from Gemini come here, they could feed each other
with cross contents, as Gemini it's best suited to write articles and
usenet to discuss information.
Am 16.06.2023 um 12:37:51 Uhr schrieb Frank Slootweg:
I am interested in the computer topics there and I like that there is
no censorship and no banning of users who do not agree with moderators.
I also like that alle the bullshit of platforms like Twitter or reddit
is missing.
In article <u6k43h$17b29$1@dont-email.me>, mo01@posteo.de says...We need a pre-packaged solution. It could be a docker-compose script
Am 16.06.2023 um 12:37:51 Uhr schrieb Frank Slootweg:
Anyway, I'm very glad you're on Usenet. We need all the young blood
we can get.
Then spread information about Usenet. Without that, nobody will notice
it.
Usenet currently has a discoverability problem, for sure. I don't know
of any good way to find or try Usenet from a web browser, unlike back in
the DejaNews days.
Narkive is great but only shows a handful of groups and has no posting ability. Usenetarchives.com is similarly read-only. And it's difficult
to find anything on Google Groups now that the advanced search is gone
and the Usenet groups are all mixed up with Google's own discussion
group service.
I feel like Usenet needs either another large archive site that can
bring new users on board (while somehow making enough money to keep operating), or possibly ways to make it easier to set up and host a news server with a nice easy-to-use front-end so that we end up with a lot of smaller sites participating.
Until someone creates such things: I agree, spread the word and help
some newbies find where the good discussions are!
Rayner
I feel like Usenet needs either another large archive site that can
bring new users on board (while somehow making enough money to keep operating), or possibly ways to make it easier to set up and host a
news server with a nice easy-to-use front-end so that we end up with
a lot of smaller sites participating.
So, how complicated is it to create a group?
From what I have read, a request must be made to the Big-8 board,
then it must be approved.
Do alt.* groups work differently?
Hello, I am new here. So, how complicated is it to create a group? From
what I have read, a request must be made to the Big-8 board, then it
must be approved. Do alt.* groups work differently?
Am 18.06.2023 um 13:27:31 Uhr schrieb cr0c0d1le:I don't need to create one right now, but I might if I can't find
So, how complicated is it to create a group?
Why do you need a new one?
About which topic?
alt.* must have been a dumpsterfire back in its prime.From what I have read, a request must be made to the Big-8 board,
then it must be approved.
This applies to the Big 8 hierarchy. Other hierarchies have different rulesets.
Do alt.* groups work differently?
Yes, because only a control message is needed.
But alt.* is full of empty groups because many were created and never deleted.
Am 17.06.2023 um 19:39:11 Uhr schrieb Rayner Lucas:
I feel like Usenet needs either another large archive site that can
bring new users on board (while somehow making enough money to keep operating), or possibly ways to make it easier to set up and host a
news server with a nice easy-to-use front-end so that we end up with
a lot of smaller sites participating.
It exists with the rocksolid software.
https://www.novabbs.com/rocksolid/index.php
Sadly, they don't have all active groups, especially not non-English.
It looks like it's all free software, so I guess someone could set it
up with their own news server and have any groups they wanted.
Thanks for the link, very much appreciated!
Am 19.06.2023 um 03:25:06 Uhr schrieb Rayner Lucas:
It looks like it's all free software, so I guess someone could set it
up with their own news server and have any groups they wanted.
Thanks for the link, very much appreciated!
I don't have experience with it, are you interested in running it on a
public server?
It's also easier, in my opinion, to configure e.g. Thunderbird with an eternal-september account than to set up an IMAP/SMTP email account.
Unfortunately to get people posting, there's this requisite step of
getting signed up with a server -- even on a no-auth-required server
(like aioe, which appears to be gone now?) you still have to give the
server name & your desired identity. Of course, there's always Google
Groups, but they keep making the interface worse and I think a lot of
news admins drop Groups postings because of all the spam (I know I'm
tempted to do so).
In my opinion, Usenet would be at its best if people posted primarily
from small servers where the admins know every user. I think this would
help with abuse and spam to some extent, but it means you need lots of
people running servers, and it means you can only get online if you know somebody with a server, which would be fine if The Masses were clamoring
to post, but they're not.
We need a pre-packaged solution. It could be a docker-compose script
that spins up an NNTP server along with an API and a web app.
The API would take care of user account management, uploads, and
the interfacing between the web client and the NNTP server.
The web client would be able to handle images, videos, and external
links.
Third-party clients could be created and set up to use a specific 'instance'.
Anyway, I'm just tossing ideas around. I'm not even sure if this would
be feasible :P
I saw a rumour that aioe may have suffered a disk failure, but I
don't know for sure. I hope it comes back, but it's been several
months so my hopes are not high :-(
Am 19.06.2023 um 17:46:06 Uhr schrieb Rayner Lucas:So, what is this group about exactly? I'm new here and I noticed that
I saw a rumour that aioe may have suffered a disk failure, but I
don't know for sure. I hope it comes back, but it's been several
months so my hopes are not high :-(
This is the first rumor. The second one is that the operator is dead.
Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> writes:
Am 19.06.2023 um 17:46:06 Uhr schrieb Rayner Lucas:So, what is this group about exactly? I'm new here and I noticed that
I saw a rumour that aioe may have suffered a disk failure, but I
don't know for sure. I hope it comes back, but it's been several
months so my hopes are not high :-(
This is the first rumor. The second one is that the operator is dead.
this group is somewhat active.
Thanks
We need a pre-packaged solution. It could be a docker-compose script
that spins up an NNTP server along with an API and a web app.
The API would take care of user account management, uploads, and the interfacing between the web client and the NNTP server.
The web client would be able to handle images, videos, and external
links.
Third-party clients could be created and set up to use a specific
'instance'.
Anyway, I'm just tossing ideas around. I'm not even sure if this would
be feasible :P
Am 16.06.2023 um 12:37:51 Uhr schrieb Frank Slootweg:
Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:
Am 13.06.2023 um 12:05:06 Uhr schrieb Frank Slootweg:
Then spread information about Usenet. Without that, nobody will notice
it.
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