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    From Hisler@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 8 10:55:31 2022
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.survival, alt.politics.trump

    Authored by John Cody via Remix News,

    Italy argues that German ships flying German flags should be responsible
    for the migrants...



    Survivors are disembarked on the tiny Sicilian island of Lampedusa,
    Italy, Friday, Oct. 21, 2022. Italy's coast guard says it has found two
    dead minors on a migrant boat carrying nearly 40 people in the
    Mediterranean Sea, and a search is underway for a woman reported missing
    from the vessel. (AP Photo/David Lohmueller)

    Three NGO ships with more than 1,000 people on board are waiting to dock
    off the Italian coast, but Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni and Interior
    Minister Matteo Piantedosi are firmly refusing German demands that the
    ships dock in Italian ports.

    Rome’s foreign ministry confirmed on Thursday that it had previously
    sent a verbal note to Berlin asking it to accept the migrants on board
    the German-registered Humanity 1. The Italian ministry added that the
    German side had been asked for information on the people on board.

    The diplomatic document, dated Oct. 23, was published on Wednesday by
    public television channel RAI3. In its response, the Berlin foreign
    ministry urged Rome to provide assistance as soon as possible to the
    people on board the NGO boat, including more than 100 minors.

    “Rescuing people in mortal danger is the most important thing,” read a statement from German embassy urging Italy allow the boats to dock.

    “If Germany believes that there is a humanitarian problem, it should
    take care of it, Italy cannot become the refuge of all immigrants,” said
    the Minister for Relations with Parliament Luca Ciriani while speaking
    on the “Agorà” show on the Rai3 television channel.

    According to Piantedosi, European countries that flag their vessels
    should welcome those arriving via the NGOs that use those boats.
    However, he said the only way to solve the migration flow was to stop departures altogether.

    Ciriani backed Piantedosi’s hard line on migration, saying, “We cannot simply be the terminal of choices that take place elsewhere. We are a
    serious country, Italy is a fully sovereign country.”

    Ciriani also repeated Piantedosi’s position, saying flying German flags should indicate Germany’s responsibility for migrants on those ships.

    “If it intends to act in international waters, then it must also take responsibility for the choices made by the ships flying its flag,” said Ciriani who added, “We cannot accept that Germany decides for us.”

    As Remix News previously reported, there are numerous German NGO ships operating in the Mediterranean that rescue migrants but also serve as a
    draw for many migrants who believe they will be rescued if something
    goes wrong. The groups have also been accused of cooperating with
    migrant smugglers and arranging to meet up with smugglers on the open
    sea to transfer migrants. Many of these ships are supported with funds
    from German Protestant churches. However, as the German press has
    reported in the past, the vast majority of these migrants are not
    refugees, but instead economic migrants.

    Italy’s stance may cause another rift within the EU. When Matteo Salvini refused to dock migrants while previously serving as interior minister,
    migrant numbers dramatically dropped in Italy. However, once he lost
    power, he was targeted by prosecutors with “kidnapping” charges for defending Italy’s borders and faced harsh prison sentences for his actions.

    Italy’s government says it won’t back down
    With 179 people on board, Humanity 1 is waiting some 18 kilometers
    outside Italian territorial waters. Also waiting to dock with 572 people
    on board is the Geo Barents, a vessel operated by Doctors Without
    Borders, and the Ocean Viking, a French vessel of the SOS Mediterranée organization, registered in Norway, is carrying more than 200 people.
    The vessels took on board the people in international waters between
    Oct. 22 and Oct. 29.

    Italy continues to refuse to allow the ships to dock. Ocean Viking had
    already asked Spain, France, and Greece to do the same on Thursday,
    according to Hungarian news outlet Magyar Nemzet.

    In an interview with the Corriere della Sera, Italian Interior Minister
    Matteo Piantedosi said that with the new right-wing government, Italy
    would no longer accept people taken on board foreign ships at sea. He
    stressed that NGO boats regularly carry out their activities with
    minimal involvement of the authorities. He noted that 16 percent of
    people arriving on Italian shores are transported via NGO boats, while
    local authorities are required to assist the remaining 84 percent.

    The interior minister had previously declared the docking of the
    Humanity 1 and the Ocean Viking unsafe by decree, citing national
    security reasons.
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  • From Hisler@21:1/5 to Hisler on Tue Nov 8 12:03:54 2022
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.survival, alt.politics.trump

    On 11/8/2022 10:55 AM, Hisler wrote:
    Authored by John Cody via Remix News,

    Italy argues that German ships flying German flags should be responsible
    for the migrants...



    Survivors are disembarked on the tiny Sicilian island of Lampedusa,
    Italy, Friday, Oct. 21, 2022. Italy's coast guard says it has found two
    dead minors on a migrant boat carrying nearly 40 people in the
    Mediterranean Sea, and a search is underway for a woman reported missing
    from the vessel. (AP Photo/David Lohmueller)

    Three NGO ships with more than 1,000 people on board are waiting to dock
    off the Italian coast, but Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni and Interior Minister Matteo Piantedosi are firmly refusing German demands that the
    ships dock in Italian ports.

    Rome’s foreign ministry confirmed on Thursday that it had previously
    sent a verbal note to Berlin asking it to accept the migrants on board
    the German-registered Humanity 1. The Italian ministry added that the
    German side had been asked for information on the people on board.

    The diplomatic document, dated Oct. 23, was published on Wednesday by
    public television channel RAI3. In its response, the Berlin foreign
    ministry urged Rome to provide assistance as soon as possible to the
    people on board the NGO boat, including more than 100 minors.

    “Rescuing people in mortal danger is the most important thing,” read a statement from German embassy urging Italy allow the boats to dock.

    “If Germany believes that there is a humanitarian problem, it should
    take care of it, Italy cannot become the refuge of all immigrants,” said the Minister for Relations with Parliament Luca Ciriani while speaking
    on the “Agorà” show on the Rai3 television channel.

    According to Piantedosi, European countries that flag their vessels
    should welcome those arriving via the NGOs that use those boats.
    However, he said the only way to solve the migration flow was to stop departures altogether.

    Ciriani backed Piantedosi’s hard line on migration, saying, “We cannot simply be the terminal of choices that take place elsewhere. We are a
    serious country, Italy is a fully sovereign country.”

    Ciriani also repeated Piantedosi’s position, saying flying German flags should indicate Germany’s responsibility for migrants on those ships.

    “If it intends to act in international waters, then it must also take responsibility for the choices made by the ships flying its flag,” said Ciriani who added, “We cannot accept that Germany decides for us.”

    As Remix News previously reported, there are numerous German NGO ships operating in the Mediterranean that rescue migrants but also serve as a
    draw for many migrants who believe they will be rescued if something
    goes wrong. The groups have also been accused of cooperating with
    migrant smugglers and arranging to meet up with smugglers on the open
    sea to transfer migrants. Many of these ships are supported with funds
    from German Protestant churches. However, as the German press has
    reported in the past, the vast majority of these migrants are not
    refugees, but instead economic migrants.

    Italy’s stance may cause another rift within the EU. When Matteo Salvini refused to dock migrants while previously serving as interior minister, migrant numbers dramatically dropped in Italy. However, once he lost
    power, he was targeted by prosecutors with “kidnapping” charges for defending Italy’s borders and faced harsh prison sentences for his actions.

    Italy’s government says it won’t back down
    With 179 people on board, Humanity 1 is waiting some 18 kilometers
    outside Italian territorial waters. Also waiting to dock with 572 people
    on board is the Geo Barents, a vessel operated by Doctors Without
    Borders, and the Ocean Viking, a French vessel of the SOS Mediterranée organization, registered in Norway, is carrying more than 200 people.
    The vessels took on board the people in international waters between
    Oct. 22 and Oct. 29.

    Italy continues to refuse to allow the ships to dock. Ocean Viking had already asked Spain, France, and Greece to do the same on Thursday,
    according to Hungarian news outlet Magyar Nemzet.

    In an interview with the Corriere della Sera, Italian Interior Minister Matteo Piantedosi said that with the new right-wing government, Italy
    would no longer accept people taken on board foreign ships at sea. He stressed that NGO boats regularly carry out their activities with
    minimal involvement of the authorities. He noted that 16 percent of
    people arriving on Italian shores are transported via NGO boats, while
    local authorities are required to assist the remaining 84 percent.

    The interior minister had previously declared the docking of the
    Humanity 1 and the Ocean Viking unsafe by decree, citing national
    security reasons.

    Here's the URL / link.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/italy-fully-sovereign-country-italys-new-conservative-govt-refuses-dock-migrants

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    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    "We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter
    fraud organization in the history of American politics." -Joe Biden

    "C'mon man! If you didn't vote for me , you ain't black ." Joe Biden -

    "Poor children can be just as smart as White children." -- Joe Biden

    “The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous.
    Hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and
    ignorance.” - George Orwell

    https://www.globalgulag.us

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