Hey,

apparently there's a new message in my inbox that isn't showing up. I've got
41 messages in there right now, and it's only showing 1-39 and 41 (The last
one being a test so I could see the index view). When I tried to open the
index view for Netmail, it just bumped me immediately back to the message
base index. When I sent a test message to myself, It only showed, as I said,
1 through 39 and 41.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/32)
* Origin: NeoCincinnati BBS (21:2/106)

On 28 Oct 2019 at 03:08a, Nodoka Hanamura pondered and said...

Hey,

apparently there's a new message in my inbox that isn't showing up. I've got 41 messages in there right now, and it's only showing 1-39 and 41
(The last one being a test so I could see the index view). When I tried
to open the index view for Netmail, it just bumped me immediately back

It will be one of two reasons.

1) There's netmail that is for you that's been sent with incorrect spelling
of your real name or alias. So Mystic will not allow you to view someone
else's netmail in a netmail base.

2) There's netmail sent to your system addressed correctly to someone else,
the same rules for reason 1 still apply.

You might like to look at your MUTIL logs to spot the incoming netmail being tossed in and see if you can see the typo in the recipient name or the person who is being sent the correctly spelled netmail.

The best way to fix reason one is to have some additional remapping added to your mailin.ini that you can populate with known typos and get Mystic to redirect it to you.

e.g.

; If you want to remap netmail from one user name to another, you can
; define up to 50 remapped names below using the format <orig>;<new>
;

forward = sysop;Paul Hayton
forward = system operator;Paul Hayton
forward = postmaster;Paul Hayton
forward = admin;Paul Hayton
forward = administrator;Paul Hayton
forward = Paul;Paul Hayton
forward = Paul H;Paul Hayton
forward = P Hayton;Paul Hayton
forward = Paul Haydon;Paul Hayton
forward = Avon;Paul Hayton


Hope that helps :)

Best, Paul

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

apparently there's a new message in my inbox that isn't showing up. I've got 41 messages in there right now, and it's only showing 1-39 and 41
(The last one being a test so I could see the index view). When I tried
to open the index view for Netmail, it just bumped me immediately back
to the message base index. When I sent a test message to myself, It only showed, as I said, 1 through 39 and 41.

Is it possible that message is for someone else?

Mystic will never show you any message not addressed to you, even if you
are the sysop.

You may need to add some forward = lines to your mutil.ini that tosses
mail when it arrives.

Ttyl :-)
Al

--- MagickaBBS v0.13alpha (Linux/x86_64)
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Mystic will never show you any message not addressed to you, even if
you are the sysop.

That only applies to private messages of course, email or netmail.

Ttyl :-)
Al

--- MagickaBBS v0.13alpha (Linux/x86_64)
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

On 28 Oct 2019, Avon said the following...

On 28 Oct 2019 at 03:08a, Nodoka Hanamura pondered and said...

Hey,

apparently there's a new message in my inbox that isn't showing up. I got 41 messages in there right now, and it's only showing 1-39 and 41 (The last one being a test so I could see the index view). When I tri to open the index view for Netmail, it just bumped me immediately bac

It will be one of two reasons.

1) There's netmail that is for you that's been sent with incorrect spelling of your real name or alias. So Mystic will not allow you to
view someone else's netmail in a netmail base.

2) There's netmail sent to your system addressed correctly to someone else, the same rules for reason 1 still apply.

You might like to look at your MUTIL logs to spot the incoming netmail being tossed in and see if you can see the typo in the recipient name or the person who is being sent the correctly spelled netmail.

If it's reason 2 - is it possible to have the netmail message base ignore messages not meant for me? How do I go about that?

Born too Early to experience the scene.
Born just in time to see it come back.
Nodoka Hanamura - NeoCincinnati BBS SYSOP - neocinci.bbs.io

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/32)
* Origin: NeoCincinnati BBS (21:2/106)

Okay, so I apparently got a message from Marty Taylor on 21:2/114 at 0300
EDT.

+ Oct 28 03:00:03 Importing 10bdf1bf.pkt (21:2/100 to 21:2/106)
+ Oct 28 03:00:03 Import #5389 to FSX_GEN
+ Oct 28 03:00:03 Importing 10be01df.pkt (21:2/100 to 21:2/106)
+ Oct 28 03:00:03 Import #5390 to FSX_GEN
+ Oct 28 03:00:03 Importing 10bf98e3.pkt (21:2/100 to 21:2/106)
+ Oct 28 03:00:03 Import #2524 to FSX_BOT
+ Oct 28 03:00:03 Import #2525 to FSX_BOT
+ Oct 28 03:00:03 Importing 10c019d4.pkt (21:2/100 to 21:2/106)
+ Oct 28 03:00:03 Import #5391 to FSX_GEN
+ Oct 28 03:00:03 Importing 10c0f225.pkt (21:2/0 to 21:2/106)
+ Oct 28 03:00:03 Netmail from Marty Taylor (21:2/114) to 21:2/106 (21:2/106)
! Oct 28 03:00:03 Import from /mystic/echomail/in/unsecure/
+ Oct 28 03:00:03 Results: 18 echo, 1 net, 0 dupes, 0 tossed in 0.55s
+ Oct 28 03:00:03 Shutdown Normal (0)

It doesn't declare who it's sent to - It just says 21:2/106, my FSXNET FDN address.

Born too Early to experience the scene.
Born just in time to see it come back.
Nodoka Hanamura - NeoCincinnati BBS SYSOP - neocinci.bbs.io

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/32)
* Origin: NeoCincinnati BBS (21:2/106)

On 28 Oct 2019, Nodoka Hanamura said the following...

If it's reason 2 - is it possible to have the netmail message base ignore messages not meant for me? How do I go about that?

Sorry to spam, but I need to clarify - When I mean "ignore messages", i mean, don't show any new messages unless they're explicitly for me.

Born too Early to experience the scene.
Born just in time to see it come back.
Nodoka Hanamura - NeoCincinnati BBS SYSOP - neocinci.bbs.io

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/32)
* Origin: NeoCincinnati BBS (21:2/106)

Sorry to spam, but I need to clarify - When I mean "ignore messages", i mean, don't show any new messages unless they're explicitly for me.

Your not spamming at all, so no worries.

The only thing I can think of is to look at the jam base header file and
see if you can find out who the message is addressed to.

If you want to do that look in the .jhr file for you netmail base. That's
not a plain text file so it won't be easy to read but down near the end
of that file you will find the whoto and the whofrom.

Sorry, not a pretty solution.

Ttyl :-)
Al

--- MagickaBBS v0.13alpha (Linux/x86_64)
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Okay, I took a look at the JHM file and it shows no recipient - the supposed area in the JAM Header for recipient is just 3 or 4 empty spaces.

I'm going to go ahead and get in touch with Marty and tell him to resend the netmail again to my account.

Born too Early to experience the scene.
Born just in time to see it come back.
Nodoka Hanamura - NeoCincinnati BBS SYSOP - neocinci.bbs.io

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/32)
* Origin: NeoCincinnati BBS (21:2/106)

On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 05:36:43 -0400
"Nodoka Hanamura -> Al" <0@106.2.21> wrote:

Okay, I took a look at the JHM file and it shows no recipient - the

supposed

area in the JAM Header for recipient is just 3 or 4 empty spaces.

You could also use a message editor like GoldEd, TimEd, MsgEd or GossipEd.

For a quick install I would recommend GossipEd. It's missing some features, but
for reading a Netmail area it should be fine.

https://github.com/askovpen/gossiped/

Linux 32bit binary: https://github.com/askovpen/gossiped/releases/download/gossiped-0.2.8/gossiped- 0.2.8-lnx32.zip

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forward = sysop;Paul Hayton

Hope that helps :)

I don't know if it helped her, but thanks for showing me another part of
Mystic that I've now setup on my own BBS.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)

Is it possible that message is for someone else?

Have you received a fair amount of messages that you think were really meant
to be addressed to "All"?

(I don't know if it's the case here, but I finally put 2 and 2 together, and wondered.)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)

On 28 Oct 2019, Avon said the following...

2) There's netmail sent to your system addressed correctly to someone else, the same rules for reason 1 still apply.

Could it also possibly be a deleted message that hasn't been packed/purged?

Regards,
Nick

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/64)
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Is it possible that message is for someone else?

Have you received a fair amount of messages that you think were really meant to be addressed to "All"?

(I don't know if it's the case here, but I finally put 2 and 2 together, and wondered.)

I'm not quite sure where you are coming from or where you are going. Can
you explain it to me?

Ttyl :-)
Al

--- MagickaBBS v0.13alpha (Linux/x86_64)
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Is it possible that message is for someone else?

Have you received a fair amount of messages that you think were reall meant to be addressed to "All"?

I'm not quite sure where you are coming from or where you are going. Can you explain it to me?

If someone types "All" but missed the last 'l', or accidentally deletes it, it'd be sent to Al.

Obviously, since an empty field is generally All, it's probably not a particularly common issue.

And I have no idea if it was the case here.

That make sense? Possible that you've never had an issue with it at all.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)

If someone types "All" but missed the last 'l', or accidentally deletes it, it'd be sent to Al.

Years ago I tried an OLR (ATP I think) that said messages addressed to
All were personal messages to me. Bummer, I couldn't use that OLR with
that handle.

Obviously, since an empty field is generally All, it's probably not a particularly common issue.

Not really. I don't care much for the handle "Al" but have never been
able to come up with anything better. If I ever do I may change it but I
have been using that handle for years.

Ttyl :-)
Al

--- MagickaBBS v0.13alpha (Linux/x86_64)
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On 28 Oct 2019 at 07:50p, Al pondered and said...

Not really. I don't care much for the handle "Al" but have never been

Super Al? ;-)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 28 Oct 2019 at 07:50p, Al pondered and said...

Not really. I don't care much for the handle "Al" but have never been

Super Al? ;-)

AlBeBack

:D

Andrew

--- MagickaBBS v0.13alpha (Linux/x86_64)
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Not really. I don't care much for the handle "Al" but have never been
able to come up with anything better. If I ever do I may change it but I have been using that handle for years.

Hah! I find it amusing that, when I decided to do some more BBS'ing stuff, I immediately went back to my BBS'ing alias rather than what I use on the internet (I just stick my first name after "Adept", as I'm definitely not the only "Adept" out there.), or even a unique nickname from a friend group.

But my alias was originally The Apprentice Adept, because of reading a trashy Piers Anthony novel, and... reasons, I guess. I really don't recall.

But then I played a game of Trade Wars 2002 where I had a teammate who encouraged people to join us by saying, "Join me and the APPRENTICE adept" (capitalization was his), which annoyed me enough that I took out all that I had brought to the corporation and struck out on my own to prove a point (and dominated the game from there, of course).

...and dropped "The Apprentice".

Even now, "Adept" still feels kinda arrogant, but it's fit me more than anything else I've tried. And it seems much too late to change it.

I imagine your "Al" is about the same, even if sometimes it might be nice to change it after all.

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* Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)

Not really. I don't care much for the handle "Al" but have never been

Super Al? ;-)

AlBeBack

HomeAlOne?

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)

Sorry to spam, but I need to clarify - When I mean "ignore messages", i mean, don't show any new messages unless they're explicitly for me.

Set the netmail base to private = yes in the MessageBase editor, then you
will no longer see new messages not addressed to you.

Joe

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* Origin: The Virtual Terminal (21:1/189)