Hello,

Please kindly fix the INTL kludge to use 3D addressing, not 4D.

Atreyu
(Fidonet ZC1)

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Hello,

Please kindly fix the INTL kludge to use 3D addressing, not 4D.

Can you describe what the issue is?

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On 19 Dec 18 19:58:21, G00R00 said the following to Atreyu:

Please kindly fix the INTL kludge to use 3D addressing, not 4D.

Can you describe what the issue is?

When a Mystic system is configured as a Point system, or sends a Netmail message to a Point system, the INTL kludge is incorrect. The kludge calls
for only the Zone, Net and Node portion to be specified... not the Point portion. Points are to be handled exclusively by the FMPT and TOPT kludges, which I can see are correct, no problems there.

For example, a Mystic system send Netmail from 1:666/666 to 1:229/426.67:

INTL 1:666/666 1:229/426.67
TOPT 67

This is incorrect and results in unroutable Netmail for the vast majority
of other mailers/tossers. The kludge should just be:

INTL 1:666/666 1:229/426
TOPT 67

Another example: A Mystic system is configured as 1:666/666.555 and sends Netmail to 2:6969/6969:

INTL 2:6969/6969 1:666/666.555
FMPT 555

Should be:

INTL 2:6969/6969 1:666/666
FMPT 555

Another example: Two Mystic Point-systems send Netmail to each other. 1:666/666.40 to 2:6969/6969.43:

INTL 1:666/666.40 2:6969/6969.43
FMPT 40
TOPT 43

Should be:

INTL 1:666/666 2:6969/6969
FMPT 40
TOPT 43

Atreyu

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On 19 Dec 18 20:05, Atreyu said the following to G00R00:

On 19 Dec 18 19:58:21, G00R00 said the following to Atreyu:

Please kindly fix the INTL kludge to use 3D addressing, not 4D.

Can you describe what the issue is?

To clarify my last message, I appear to incorrectly stated the order of addresses in the INTL kludge. You have it correct. INTL [Destination] [Source]

Atreyu

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When a Mystic system is configured as a Point system, or sends a Netmail message to a Point system, the INTL kludge is incorrect. The kludge
calls for only the Zone, Net and Node portion to be specified... not the

Yep I ended up taking a look at it and the FTS (I was surprised I could find the FTS which was the reason I asked for clarification but none needed).

Its been fixed in the latest build :)

Thanks for the report!

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On 12/20/18, g00r00 said the following...

Its been fixed in the latest build :)

Does this fix the scenario that replying (as a point) to another system, the address is sometimes wrong?

As you can see I'm a point. When I receive a netmail from some people (not everybody) - when I hit reply, the reply address is that of my dot zero. For others it is the correct address.

I also see sometimes, in the message display, the "from address" is my
address, not that of the sender - although the KLUDGE lines are correct.

You could send me a netmail and I'll tell you what I see...

...deon

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Does this fix the scenario that replying (as a point) to another system, the address is sometimes wrong?

g00r00 will need the facts in order to make any fixes (if needed). I also replied to this via netmail (it's a test of my software also) so you can see what happens. I'll netmail reply from SBBS also in a few minutes.

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On 12/20/18, Al said the following...

g00r00 will need the facts in order to make any fixes (if needed). I also replied to this via netmail (it's a test of my software also) so you can see what happens. I'll netmail reply from SBBS also in a few minutes.

OK, here is what I see:
-- SCREEN CAPTURE --
From : Alan Ianson (21:2/116) Msg # : 712 of 712
To : Deon George (21:2/116.1) Msg Date : 20/12/18 13:47
Subj : Re: INTL kludge Refer to : 0
Stat : Echo Priv Read See Also : 0 ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ @INTL 21:2/116 21:4/106
@TZUTC: -0800
@TOPT 1
@PID: Synchronet 3.17a-Linux Dec 20 2018 GCC
@Via: 21:4/106 @20181220.214711.UTC SBBSecho 3
@Via: 21:4/0 @20181220.144733.UTC Mystic 1.12
@Via: 21:2/0 @20181220.165032.UTC Mystic 1.12
@Via: 21:2/116@fsxnet @20181220.215243.UTC mbf

Does this fix the scenario that replying (as a point) to another system, the address is sometimes wrong?

Just a test reply from SBBS..

What do you see.. anything noteworthy?

Ttyl :-),

-- END SCREEN CAPTURE --

Notice how the "From: Alan Ianson .." is my address, not Al's.

...deon

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Re: Re: INTL kludge
By: deon to Al on Thu Dec 20 2018 11:58 pm

What do you see.. anything noteworthy?

Did you also get the netmail reply from BBBS and were the results the same?

Ttyl :-),
Al

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On 12/21/18, Al said the following...

Did you also get the netmail reply from BBBS and were the results the same?

Ahh, I didnt notice they were two different BBSs.

So yes, got both, however, the BBBS one presented the same (ie: whilst
reading the From: had my dot zero.

However, with the BBBS one, when I pressed reply, it autofilled this address: 21:4/106.2 which I assume was correct.

...deon

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Did you also get the netmail reply from BBBS and were the results the
same?

Ahh, I didnt notice they were two different BBSs.

So yes, got both, however, the BBBS one presented the same (ie: whilst reading the From: had my dot zero.

If you don't mind letting me know your host and port info for your .1 BBS I'll send you like netmails directly, then we can see if it works as expected. I suspect but am not sure that only happens with routed netmail messages, and sending direct we can see if there is any difference.

However, with the BBBS one, when I pressed reply, it autofilled this
address: 21:4/106.2 which I assume was correct.

Yes, that is the address of this BBBS.

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On 12/21/18, Al said the following...

If you don't mind letting me know your host and port info for your .1
BBS I'll send you like netmails directly, then we can see if it works as expected. I suspect but am not sure that only happens with routed
netmail messages, and sending direct we can see if there is any difference.

My Mystic (point 1) is not connectible directly - well, only agency can
connect to it directly (as a result of firewall rules). (Port redirection
will send any other inbound connect to MBSE (my dot zero)).

I'll can add your IP to the firewall list (as long as its not the gamenet hub
- they go to MBSE) so any inbound to chinwag.leenooks.net:24556 will go to Mystic instead of MBSE. What should I use?

...deon

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Re: Re: INTL kludge
By: deon to Al on Fri Dec 21 2018 12:16 pm

I'll can add your IP to the firewall list (as long as its not the gamenet hub - they go to MBSE) so any inbound to chinwag.leenooks.net:24556 will go to Mystic instead of MBSE. What should I use?

I added your 21:2/116.1 to my linked nodes to send direct and hold and sent you a netmail. It's in the outbound now. Something like "fidopoll 21:4/106" should poll here and pick it up (if I remember fidopoll commands correctly).

There is also a netmail for you on hold at the BBBS from 21:4/106.2 The host info for that BBBS is trmb.ca on port 24554. You will probably have to add that node to your echomail nodes to pick it up but it is waiting there. The IP is either 104.237.153.215 or 2006:3c01::f03c:91ff:feb7:c7ce

My host for SBBS is trmb.synchro.net on port 24554. My IP is 75.155.238.60. IPv6 is 2001:569:faf1:7a00:2b1e:d9d3:bf81:f568. I'm not sure if my mailer will use IPv4 or IPv6.

Let me know if you'd like me to poll directly.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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As you can see I'm a point. When I receive a netmail from some people
(not everybody) - when I hit reply, the reply address is that of my dot zero. For others it is the correct address.

I guess you would just have to test it and see. I would have to set up a
test to see on my end which I can add to my TODO list assuming I understand
the steps to reproduce the issue.

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On 12/21/18, Al said the following...

I added your 21:2/116.1 to my linked nodes to send direct and hold and sent you a netmail. It's in the outbound now. Something like "fidopoll 21:4/106" should poll here and pick it up (if I remember fidopoll
commands correctly).

OK, it might take a day or two before i can get to it. I'll pick up the
mail...

Packing up the house and family to head over to my sisters for Chrissy, then with a 200klm journey and van to pull.

...deon

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Re: Re: INTL kludge
By: deon to Al on Fri Dec 21 2018 10:22 pm

OK, it might take a day or two before i can get to it. I'll pick up the mail...

No worries... get to it when you can and let me know if you need anymore input..

Packing up the house and family to head over to my sisters for Chrissy, then with a 200klm journey and van to pull.

Sounds good. I just got off my last shift a short time ago. R&R until Thursday.. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al

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