I've updated the prealphas again for Intel Linux and Windows.

I am experimenting with different configuration forms if anyone has any feedback on what is there under Networking (its similar to the user editor).

Not sure what else has changed. Fixed a bug with mouse in Linux not
releasing the terminal, reenabled the busy log... other minor things probably.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A37 2017/12/16 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)

On 12/16/17, g00r00 said the following...

I've updated the prealphas again for Intel Linux and Windows.

I am experimenting with different configuration forms if anyone has any feedback on what is there under Networking (its similar to the user editor).

Not sure what else has changed. Fixed a bug with mouse in Linux not releasing the terminal, reenabled the busy log... other minor things probably.

Wow that looks amazing, is this being used now vs the normal 2 we use or this just something as to check out the options? I will start playing with this
one this weekend. =)

Cheers!
Pequito

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A37 2017/12/16 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Twinkle BBS # (21:1/126)

Wow that looks amazing, is this being used now vs the normal 2 we use or this just something as to check out the options? I will start playing with this one this weekend. =)

The form pilot would replace the "Echomail Node" editor if I decide to use it.

And probably the message base editor as well at some point, and so on. I am trying to come up with a new form that will not run out of space to add more options and I figured I'd start by looking at what I did for the user editor.

I might make one that is just a giant scrolling listbox type thing with configuration options in it too, not sure yet. Running out of space in the configuration is the sole reason why there is no Echomail security system
this weekend. :(

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A37 2017/12/16 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)

On 12/16/17, g00r00 pondered and said...

I am experimenting with different configuration forms if anyone has any feedback on what is there under Networking (its similar to the user editor).

I like it and think it's a good solution to solving the amount of information you need to share.

The trick will be to ensure what needs to be on a given page fits on that
page or perhaps if things look too tight make the sections split across more than one page

General
Security Pt1
Security Pt2
BinkP
FTP
Directory

I'd also make the case as per above vs a mix of CAPS and First letter capital.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A37 2017/12/16 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | telnet://agency.bbs.geek.nz (21:1/101)

On 12/17/17, g00r00 pondered and said...

I might make one that is just a giant scrolling listbox type thing with configuration options in it too, not sure yet. Running out of space in the configuration is the sole reason why there is no Echomail security system this weekend. :(

If you can be bothered perhaps add that as another test menu so we can have a look. If you do go that way will the display window be the same size? If yes, I'm picking pages is the way to go. It presents logical info in paginated fashion.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A37 2017/12/16 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | telnet://agency.bbs.geek.nz (21:1/101)

I am experimenting with different configuration forms if anyone has any feedback on what is there under Networking (its similar to the user editor).

Looks good and easy to navigate through!

Cheers
Lloyd

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A37 2017/12/16 (Windows/32)
* Origin: - Micro Link BBS - QLD, OZ (21:1/103)

On 12/17/17, g00r00 said the following...

The form pilot would replace the "Echomail Node" editor if I decide to
use it.

It could just be years of Doom playing talking but the numbered page interface feels perfectly natural to use. Also that Frontdoor theme is a keeper.

On a related note; any chance of a /Global edit for file bases like with message bases?

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A36 2017/12/03 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Subcarrier BBS (21:2/140)

If you can be bothered perhaps add that as another test menu so we can have a look. If you do go that way will the display window be the same size? If yes, I'm picking pages is the way to go. It presents logical
info in paginated fashion.

Okay thanks for the feedback. I wasn't sure if the perception would be that the options are too spread out. In the current Echonode edit you have everything there except the session options.

The other idea would be something scrollable similar to the area idex reader, where you could have little categories, but really its just one big list you can move around through.

I think pages would end up being easier to navigate, so I should probably
just go with that.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A37 2017/12/16 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)

It could just be years of Doom playing talking but the numbered page interface feels perfectly natural to use. Also that Frontdoor theme is a keeper.

Thats great to hear!

Yep that theme was from Mystic2demo but it was inspired but many BBS-related softwares that used a similar interface. Remote Access, Frontdoor like you said, Internet Rex, etc.

A may add one to mimic the "Turbo Vision" style as well which was also popular for menus and all of Borland's programming editors back then. I've always tried to keep Mystic text-based and filled with nostalgia - like you're running a BBS in DOS again, so this sort of thing makes sense to me.

On a related note; any chance of a /Global edit for file bases like with message bases?

Yes, that is planned and its a higher priority than a lot of stuff on the list.

The issue right now is that I have to redo the message base editor and the global message base editing as well, because there are just too many options and I need to add even more for echomail "ACS"... It needs a redesign.

I want to try to come up with a workable system for message bases first so that once that is done I can go and redo file bases to edit in the same way for consistency. If I do file bases now, I might end up having to turn around
and redo it again soon after.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A37 2017/12/16 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)

On 12/17/17, g00r00 said the following...

I want to try to come up with a workable system for message bases first
so that once that is done I can go and redo file bases to edit in the
same way for consistency. If I do file bases now, I might end up having to turn around and redo it again soon after.

That's reasonable. No sense paving a road today just to rip it up tomorrow to lay pipe under it.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A36 2017/12/03 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Subcarrier BBS (21:2/140)

On 12/17/17, Avon said the following...

If you can be bothered perhaps add that as another test menu so we can have a look. If you do go that way will the display window be the same size? If yes, I'm picking pages is the way to go. It presents logical
info in paginated fashion.

Yeah, I'm digging the pagination as well.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A37 2017/12/16 (Windows/32)
* Origin: throwbackbbs.com -\- meriden, ct -\- (21:1/114)

On 12/17/17, g00r00 said the following...

The form pilot would replace the "Echomail Node" editor if I decide to
use it.

Looks good. I remember seeing that style somewhere else (in Mystic even), but don't rememer where.

BTW, as for the black background in the text editor, it definitely fixes the visual effect of the editor itself, but when you exit the editor and go back
to the main config screen, it mangles the config screen to fit the width of
the window still.

That said, if you like the blue background better, I'd say stick with it and I'll just continue to use putty/ssh where things work better and look nicer.
No need to try to deal with something like that for one random person using a VMWare Remote Console app.

Regards,
Nick

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A37 2017/12/16 (Linux/64)
* Origin: _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (21:1/200)

On 12/17/17, g00r00 pondered and said...

I think pages would end up being easier to navigate, so I should probably just go with that.

I would. And all good on the latest version / logging etc. we'll catch the issue I'm sure.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A37 2017/12/16 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | telnet://agency.bbs.geek.nz (21:1/101)

BTW, as for the black background in the text editor, it definitely fixes the visual effect of the editor itself, but when you exit the editor and go back to the main config screen, it mangles the config screen to fit

Yep that seems like it is a separate issue.

That said, if you like the blue background better, I'd say stick with it and I'll just continue to use putty/ssh where things work better and
look nicer. No need to try to deal with something like that for one

I am interested in hearing opinions if people like the blue or black better, let me know which one you like.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A37 2017/12/16 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)

I would. And all good on the latest version / logging etc. we'll catch
the issue I'm sure.

The thing that was odd in the logs is that fidopoll seemed to be unable to connect to any systems. I don't know if that was because they were actually down, or if something else was going on.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A37 2017/12/16 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)

On 12/17/17, g00r00 said the following...

Yep that seems like it is a separate issue.

When I use putty with 160x48 screen size, and load mystic -cfg it
auto-resizes on it's own to 80x24, then when I exit, it goes back to my
normal screen size. I like that better anyways.

I am interested in hearing opinions if people like the blue or black better, let me know which one you like.

I definitely think the blue background gave more of an oldschool DOS feel
(like edit.com). However, the black background doesn't look bad either.
Almost like an edit.com meets nano feel to it. ;)

I can't say for sure if I like one better than the other, though. Either one
is nice.

Regards,
Nick

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A37 2017/12/16 (Linux/64)
* Origin: _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (21:1/200)

I definitely think the blue background gave more of an oldschool DOS feel (like edit.com). However, the black background doesn't look bad either. Almost like an edit.com meets nano feel to it. ;)

Yep thats pretty damn spot on actually! I tried to make it a little Nano-ish (esc+/ and esc+\, ctrl+K/U for cutting, etc) just because I know a lot of us use Nano, but also look like the DOS editor!

I struggle to pick one too but I am leaning towards the blue one.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A37 2017/12/17 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)

* An ongoing debate between g00r00 and Accession rages on ...

I definitely think the blue background gave more of an oldschool

I struggle to pick one too but I am leaning towards the blue one.

Blue is not as stark as Black, I prefer the Blue myself. :)


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On 12/17/17, g00r00 said the following...

Yep thats pretty damn spot on actually! I tried to make it a little Nano-ish (esc+/ and esc+\, ctrl+K/U for cutting, etc) just because I
know a lot of us use Nano, but also look like the DOS editor!

That it definitely does!

I struggle to pick one too but I am leaning towards the blue one.

Hell, you can make it pink and purple if you want, as long as I know the functions without looking at a help file! ;)

Regards,
Nick

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A37 2017/12/16 (Linux/64)
* Origin: _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (21:1/200)

I've updated the pre-alphas for Windows and Intel Linux.

This one has a bugfix (hopefully) for the ANSI detection display and some other new goodies surrounding the text file editing. BINKP debug logging is also
not enabled in this build.

Unfortunately, no other bugfixes for those that may be having any issues. I could use a refresher of any existing bugs/problems. I know someone is
having a 100% CPU issue, which is obviously a big deal. If anyone knows how
to reproduce this please let me know.

I am off work until Jan 2nd, but of course I have family and friends obligations... I should hopefully be able to get a lot done though in the
next week if things go well.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A37 2017/12/23 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)

On 12/23/17, g00r00 pondered and said...

I am off work until Jan 2nd, but of course I have family and friends obligations... I should hopefully be able to get a lot done though in the next week if things go well.

Know the feeling :) Spent half the day in the kitchen helping my wife with Christmas Eve prep... it's Dec 24th over here :) We have five coming for a Christmas lunch tomorrow and four at home, so nine around a table that
usually has six chairs around it!

Thanks for any / all tinkering you manage to do but family first! (says the
guy sitting at his keyboard - but I did do 3.5 hours in the kitchen this morning :))

Best, Paul

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A37 2017/12/21 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | telnet://agency.bbs.geek.nz (21:1/101)

http://s7.strangled.net:8020

This update only has updates for Windows 32/64 and Linux 32/64, no MacOS or
Pi this go around.

This adds an SSH fix and the twit filter for BBS users. Not sure what else
was changed if anything.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/02/27 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)

Updated the prealphas again.

This should fix the "first SSH connection when in daemon mode fails" issue (hopefully).

It should also introduce the POLL option for mis which will eventually
replace FIDOPOLL so feel free to experiment with its goodness.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/02/29 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)

On 02-29-20 13:17, g00r00 wrote to All <=-

Updated the prealphas again.

This should fix the "first SSH connection when in daemon mode fails"
issue (hopefully).

It should also introduce the POLL option for mis which will eventually replace FIDOPOLL so feel free to experiment with its goodness.

Cool. I'll wait until A46 comes out, but this sounds nice. :)


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--- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
* Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (21:1/109)

On 29 Feb 2020 at 01:17p, g00r00 pondered and said...

It should also introduce the POLL option for mis which will eventually replace FIDOPOLL so feel free to experiment with its goodness.

The impact on speed to send traffic to nodes using MIS POLL is amazing!

Just needed to share that. Thank you.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/02/29 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

It should also introduce the POLL option for mis which will eventuall replace FIDOPOLL so feel free to experiment with its goodness.

The impact on speed to send traffic to nodes using MIS POLL is amazing!

Just needed to share that. Thank you.

Awesome I am glad to hear it! There seem to be a couple wonky display issues with the "currently connected" window but hopefully I can get those resolved shortly. They don't seem to affect any actual data transmission or the standard log window.

Now that we have this done, next up lets get that error tracking and crash/hold/deactivate system done! In an odd scenario, I am having trouble deciding what I want to call the stanza in the .INI file for that :)

Intentions are:

Track failed connections (outbound) and demote from crash to hold
Track failed authentications
Track last interaction date/time (done) and deactivate after X days

But back to the day stanza... Something like that
[EchoNodeGovernor]

But I don't like that. Any suggestions?

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/02/29 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)

Updated the prealphas again.

This should fix the "first SSH connection when in daemon mode fails"
issue (hopefully).

It does fix the first SSH connection fails. But now it seems every connection made creates a zombie process. I just connected twice to the daemon mode MIS, and it happens immediately.

-roovis

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/02/29 (Linux/64)
* Origin: w0pr.win (21:4/165)

It does fix the first SSH connection fails. But now it seems every connection made creates a zombie process. I just connected twice to the daemon mode MIS, and it happens immediately.

That process is part of the open node, it will go away when the user logs
off. Do a grep before during and after logout and you'll see it go from non-existant, to existing, to being removed.

I used to know more details about it but its been so long now I can't
remember the circumstances surrounding it. Maybe I can clean it up but
really its just a display issue almost.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/02/29 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)

On 29 Feb 2020 at 04:51p, g00r00 pondered and said...

Intentions are:

Track failed connections (outbound) and demote from crash to hold
Track failed authentications
Track last interaction date/time (done) and deactivate after X days

But back to the day stanza... Something like that
[EchoNodeGovernor]

[EchoNodeTrack]

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/02/29 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

remember the circumstances surrounding it. Maybe I can clean it up but really its just a display issue almost.

Yeah, there does not seem to be any negative performance issues or anything.

-roovis

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/02/29 (Linux/64)
* Origin: w0pr.win (21:4/165)

But back to the day stanza... Something like that
[EchoNodeGovernor]

[EchoNodeTrack]

Ok so we have two contestants!

[EchoNodeGovernor]
[EchoNodeTracker]

WHO WILL WIN?! We need votes!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/02/29 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)

[EchoNodeTrack]

Here is what I am working on so far, please provide feedback if you have any:

[EchoNodeTracker]

; Automatically reset the echonode tracking statistics after a specific
; number of days (or 0 to disable)

reset_stats = 0

; Set the number of days of inactivity before an Echomail Node is
; automatically deactivated (or 0 to disable)

inactivity = 0

; When set to TRUE, MUTIL will remove any files or mail packets from the
; node's outbound queue upon deactivation from inactivity

clear_outbound = true

; When Mystic is unable to connect outbound to a node it can automatically
; change their mail type from "Crash" to "Hold" after a specific number of
; outbound connection failures (or 0 to disable)

crash_errors = 0

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/02/29 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)

On 01 Mar 2020 at 08:43a, g00r00 pondered and said...

[EchoNodeGovernor]
[EchoNodeTracker]

WHO WILL WIN?! We need votes!

Could be [EchoNodeTerminator] or [EchoNodeIllBeBack] :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/02/29 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 01 Mar 2020, Avon said the following...

[EchoNodeGovernor]
[EchoNodeTracker]

WHO WILL WIN?! We need votes!

Could be [EchoNodeTerminator] or [EchoNodeIllBeBack] :)

[EchoNodeYouBetterBeBack] ;)


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--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Castle Rock BBS - bbs.castlerockbbs.com (21:1/186)

On 29 Feb 2020 at 07:22p, Black Panther pondered and said...

[EchoNodeYouBetterBeBack] ;)

here we go :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/02/29 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

Could be [EchoNodeTerminator] or [EchoNodeIllBeBack] :)

Maybe both! The terminator will deactivate people and IllBeBack will reactivate after a set period of deactivation time lol

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/01 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)

I've updated the prealphas for those interested.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2018/12/28 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)

On 28 Dec 2018, g00r00 pondered and said...

I've updated the prealphas for those interested.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2018/12/28 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)

I like the extra info on the failed connections. This one was a deliberate
test

Dec 28 22:43:20 S: NUL SYS Alternate Paradox
Dec 28 22:43:20 S: NUL ZYZ Avon
Dec 28 22:43:20 S: NUL TIME Fri, 28 Dec 2018 22:43:20 1300
Dec 28 22:43:20 S: NUL VER Mystic/1.12A42 binkp/1.0
Dec 28 22:43:20 S: ADR 21:5/101@fsxnet
Dec 28 22:43:20 R: NUL OPT TLS CRAM-MD5-1d2164d5b1062a0f92011ee16c4731c8
Dec 28 22:43:20 R: NUL SYS fsxHUB Omicron [NET5]
Dec 28 22:43:20 System fsxHUB Omicron [NET5]
Dec 28 22:43:20 R: NUL ZYZ Avon
Dec 28 22:43:20 SysOp Avon
Dec 28 22:43:20 R: NUL TIME Fri, 28 Dec 2018 22:43:07 1300
Dec 28 22:43:20 Info TIME Fri, 28 Dec 2018 22:43:07 1300
Dec 28 22:43:20 R: NUL VER Mystic/1.12A42 binkp/1.0
Dec 28 22:43:20 Mailer Mystic/1.12A42 binkp/1.0
Dec 28 22:43:20 R: ADR 21:5/100@fsxnet
Dec 28 22:43:20 S: PWD
Dec 28 22:43:20 R: ERR SSL capabilities required
Dec 28 22:43:20 Authorization failed


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--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2018/12/27 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

* An ongoing debate between g00r00 and All rages on ...

I've updated the prealphas for those interested.

Thank you kindly :) looking good :)))


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