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    From apam@21:1/101 to All on Tue Jun 28 19:21:49 2022
    Hey

    I got talisman to compile and run on Haiku..

    Seems to drop the first connection when loaded, but after that both telnet and SSH appear to work.

    So now you can run a bbs, or connect to a bbs (with magiterm) on Haiku.

    Yay!

    Andrew

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to apam on Wed Jun 29 17:21:35 2022
    I got talisman to compile and run on Haiku..

    Seems to drop the first connection when loaded, but after that both
    telnet and SSH appear to work.

    So now you can run a bbs, or connect to a bbs (with magiterm) on Haiku. Yay!

    Hmmm - I'll have to say 'Yay!' to that too... Haiku is a fun little beast. I don't know exactly what its use case would be - but now we have another reason to possibly put Haiku in production... w00t w00t.



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........

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    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbs>>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150)
  • From apam@21:1/101 to paulie420 on Thu Jun 30 14:55:45 2022
    Hmmm - I'll have to say 'Yay!' to that too... Haiku is a fun little
    beast. I don't know exactly what its use case would be - but now we have another reason to possibly put Haiku in production... w00t w00t.

    Haha. I don't know what the use case for any of this BBS stuff is now days other than for a bit of fun :)

    Andrew

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From vorlon@21:1/195.1 to apam on Thu Jun 30 22:45:14 2022
    beast. I don't know exactly what its use case would be - but now
    we have another reason to possibly put Haiku in production... w00t w00t.

    Haha. I don't know what the use case for any of this BBS stuff is now
    days other than for a bit of fun :)

    That's why I installed Talisman on my Amiga 3000 running Linux M68k. Just
    for the fun of it and to see if it could be done...

    In the process helping you fix some bugs!




    \/orlon
    aka
    Stephen


    --- Talisman v0.42-dev (Linux/m68k)
    * Origin: Vorlon Empire: Amiga 3000 powered in Sector 550 (21:1/195.1)
  • From Apam@21:1/182 to All on Tue Nov 21 13:34:33 2023
    I installed haiku again yesterday, and I must have added some things to talisman a while back to work with haiku, although it didn't compile right away
    and I had to tweak somethings.. I have a working haiku BBS :D

    I also managed to compile dosbox and have a dos door on it.

    pretty happy, magiterm worked right out of the box, now to see if TitanMail still compiles on Haiku :)

    Andrew


    --- WWIV 5.9.0.development[NetBSD]
    * Origin: Cabinet of Curiosities - WWIV on NetBSD! (21:1/182)
  • From Apam@21:1/182 to All on Tue Nov 21 13:34:33 2023
    I installed haiku again yesterday, and I must have added some things to talisman a while back to work with haiku, although it didn't compile right away
    and I had to tweak somethings.. I have a working haiku BBS :D

    I also managed to compile dosbox and have a dos door on it.

    pretty happy, magiterm worked right out of the box, now to see if TitanMail still compiles on Haiku :)

    Andrew


    --- WWIV 5.9.0.development[NetBSD]
    * Origin: Cabinet of Curiosities - WWIV on NetBSD! (21:1/182)
  • From Apam@21:1/182 to All on Tue Nov 21 18:21:47 2023
    hi

    if someone has a spare minute could you try connecting to:

    scove.talismanbbs.com:2023

    it's talisman running on haiku

    Andrew

    --- WWIV 5.9.0.development[NetBSD]
    * Origin: Cabinet of Curiosities - WWIV on NetBSD! (21:1/182)
  • From Apam@21:1/182 to All on Tue Nov 21 18:21:47 2023
    hi

    if someone has a spare minute could you try connecting to:

    scove.talismanbbs.com:2023

    it's talisman running on haiku

    Andrew

    --- WWIV 5.9.0.development[NetBSD]
    * Origin: Cabinet of Curiosities - WWIV on NetBSD! (21:1/182)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Apam on Tue Nov 21 21:59:43 2023
    On 21 Nov 2023 at 06:21p, Apam pondered and said...

    hi

    if someone has a spare minute could you try connecting to:

    scove.talismanbbs.com:2023

    I could connect but I could not login, as I forgot my password

    There's a bit of a funny code that comes up first after the 'ansi graphics detected' bit... it shows an 0c then there's a pause then the ansi splash screen comes up with the login box etc.

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Apam on Tue Nov 21 22:02:38 2023
    On 21 Nov 2023 at 06:21p, Apam pondered and said...

    scove.talismanbbs.com:2023

    got in and sent you a 'hey'

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Apam@21:1/182 to Avon on Tue Nov 21 20:04:07 2023
    BY: Avon (21:1/101)

    |11A|09> |10I could connect but I could not login, as I forgot my password|07

    its a fresh install sorry, so you wouldnt have had an account


    |11A|09> |10There's a bit of a funny code that comes up first after the 'ansi|07
    |11A|09> |10graphics detected' bit... it shows an 0c then there's a pause then the|07
    |11A|09> |10ansi splash screen comes up with the login box etc.|07

    yes thats part of the cterm detection, you dont see it if running magiterm or syncterm

    any way i saw you got on. im having a weird problem with connecting via telnet usimg magiterm on haiku on a different computer . i just wanted to see if it was just that combo that weird things happen.

    thankyou for the test

    andrew
    ps. wrote this on connectbot on my phone :)


    --- WWIV 5.9.0.development[NetBSD]
    * Origin: Cabinet of Curiosities - WWIV on NetBSD! (21:1/182)
  • From deon@21:2/116 to Apam on Tue Nov 21 22:33:17 2023
    Re: Haiku
    By: Apam to All on Tue Nov 21 2023 06:21 pm

    Howdy,

    if someone has a spare minute could you try connecting to: scove.talismanbbs.com:2023
    it's talisman running on haiku

    I connected this evening, but when I got to the main menu, I lost carrier. (You might be playing...?)

    Looked good though...


    ...лоеп
    --- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux
    * Origin: I'm playing with ANSI+videotex - wanna play too? (21:2/116)
  • From apam@21:1/101 to deon on Wed Nov 22 01:08:55 2023
    I connected this evening, but when I got to the main menu, I lost
    carrier. (You might be playing...?)

    Thanks! yeah I probably was. Either that or Haiku's TCP/IP is a little flakey.

    I don't like to blame other peoples code unless I can pin point the problem, because usually it's my code that's at fault.

    I'm having this weird error with Magiterm -> Talisman both on Haiku.

    When i enter my password and press enter, magiterm appears to hang.. but talisman is still sending bytes, I can even press keys in magiterm and they register in talisman, but the recv function in magiterm keeps reporting EWOULDBLOCK.

    It's a real mystery.

    Anyway, when magiterm stops displaying characters, talisman stays connected and I have to kill it or wait half an hour for it to time out, so I probably killed your session thinking it was mine.

    The weird thing is, telnet (the command) works fine, ssh via magiterm works fine, magiterm on another OS works fine i'm stumped.

    Andrew

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Tiny@21:1/222 to apam on Tue Nov 21 07:22:10 2023
    The weird thing is, telnet (the command) works fine, ssh via magiterm
    works fine, magiterm on another OS works fine i'm stumped.

    Is it only using magiterm to connect to the localhost? Like haiku to
    haiku?

    If so I ran into an issue with that years and years ago when I was
    testing a web server on it. If I connected from another machine on my
    lan it was fine, but when I connected to localhost it would crap out
    after a while.

    I didn't really test to know why and if I did I don't remember.



    --- Talisman v0.48-dev (Windows/x86)
    * Origin: Tiny's BBS - tinysbbs.com:4323/ssh:4322 (21:1/222)
  • From J0Hnny A1Pha@21:4/158 to Apam on Tue Nov 21 11:07:46 2023
    I installed haiku again yesterday, and I must have added some things to talisman a while back to work with haiku, although it didn't compile right away
    and I had to tweak somethings.. I have a working haiku BBS :D

    I also managed to compile dosbox and have a dos door on it.

    That's pretty cool. Really dig Haiku, and sounds like that could be a pretty modern way for a sysop to run a BBS on Haiku (and now you are giving me ideas, ha).

    .jA.

    --- Renegade v1.33/DOS
    * Origin: R3TR0/X BBS: retrox.us:1992 (21:4/158)
  • From apam@21:1/101 to Tiny on Wed Nov 22 11:23:49 2023
    Is it only using magiterm to connect to the localhost? Like haiku to haiku?

    no, connecting to the local host works.. or at least it did on this computer. i've since moved the bbs to a dedicated computer - i should try the other way.

    Andrew

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From apam@21:1/101 to J0Hnny A1Pha on Wed Nov 22 11:29:18 2023
    That's pretty cool. Really dig Haiku, and sounds like that could be a pretty modern way for a sysop to run a BBS on Haiku (and now you are giving me ideas, ha).

    i had this idea of setting up ice chat in dosbox but not using the dummy video driver so a dosbox window would pop up, making paging the sysop work. (the sysop chats in the dosbox window) dont know if it would work...

    haiku is pretty fun though and i've installed it on my laptop and two desktops (one running bbs and this one) everything just works except bluetooth on my laptop

    andrew

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From deon@21:2/116 to apam on Wed Nov 22 09:49:02 2023
    Re: Re: Haiku
    By: apam to deon on Wed Nov 22 2023 01:08 am

    Howdy,

    I'm having this weird error with Magiterm -> Talisman both on Haiku.

    When i enter my password and press enter, magiterm appears to hang.. but talisman is still sending bytes, I can even press keys in magiterm and they register in talisman, but the recv function in magiterm keeps reporting EWOULDBLOCK.

    Is EWOULDBLOCK means that there is nothing in the tcp receive buffer? IE: magiterm is saying there is nothing to fetch, but talisman is sending? Presumably the send buffer would eventually fill up and talisman could no longer send?

    Since its localhost (?) I wondering if it is MTU related - which might be easy to identify if you removed all the ANSI and just go brief text - or a problem in the driver that provides the loopback interface?

    (The reason MTU comes to mind, because I have a wierd MTU issue with IPv6 and my PPPoE isp link, and lowering my MTU so that ICMP framemented messages are not sent - for some reason the devices on my network are not getting them - and happily waits for the TCP ACK that it never gets as a result.)


    ...лоеп
    --- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux
    * Origin: I'm playing with ANSI+videotex - wanna play too? (21:2/116)
  • From Apam@21:1/182 to Deon on Wed Nov 22 11:51:53 2023
    BY: deon (21:2/116)

    |11d|09> |10Since its localhost (?) I wondering if it is MTU related - which might|07
    |11d|09> |10be easy to identify if you removed all the ANSI and just go brief text -|07
    |11d|09> |10or a problem in the driver that provides the loopback interface?|07

    No, i have two computers one running magiterm and one running talisman.

    Interestingly, i switched the one running magiterm and the one running talisman, and that worked. So might be something weird with that computer.

    Who knows.

    Andrew


    --- WWIV 5.9.0.development[NetBSD]
    * Origin: Cabinet of Curiosities - WWIV on NetBSD! (21:1/182)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Apam on Wed Nov 22 16:24:48 2023
    On 21 Nov 2023 at 08:04p, Apam pondered and said...

    andrew
    ps. wrote this on connectbot on my phone :)

    very flash :)

    I have a lousy keyboard :)

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Tiny@21:1/222 to apam on Wed Nov 22 06:15:18 2023
    haiku is pretty fun though and i've installed it on my laptop and two desktops (one running bbs and this one) everything just works except bluetooth on my laptop

    That's amazing. I may take my older laptop and give it a shot again, I
    don't think I've ever ran it on bare metal.



    Shawn


    --- Talisman v0.48-dev (Windows/x86)
    * Origin: Tiny's BBS - tinysbbs.com:4323/ssh:4322 (21:1/222)
  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Apam on Thu Nov 23 16:25:09 2023
    I installed haiku again yesterday, and I must have added some things to talisman a while back to work with haiku, although it didn't compile
    right away

    and I had to tweak somethings.. I have a working haiku BBS :D

    Thats really cool - it would be a pretty neat project to run a board on an OS that prolly hadn't had many bbSes on it, ever.

    I know that RiscOS, over the pond, had some BBSes built on it - I dug into a couple BBS softwares on the platform... I wonder if Talisman, even if you needed to tweak for a build, is the only bbS software on Haiku.

    Good on you - if you point it to the public make sure you let us know and I'll make an account. :P



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbs>>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150)
  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Apam on Thu Nov 23 16:46:56 2023
    if someone has a spare minute could you try connecting to:

    scove.talismanbbs.com:2023

    Awesome - made an account and like the 'smuggler' theme.

    Everything seemed perfect except I did notice some times when the system would slow/lag and then pop back in executing all the commands that hadn't registered - the bbs looks beautiful and I'm st0ked that yer playing on Haiku!

    cheers!!



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbs>>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150)
  • From Apam@21:1/182 to Paulie420 on Fri Nov 24 11:53:09 2023
    BY: paulie420 (21:2/150)

    |11p|09> |10Everything seemed perfect except I did notice some times when the system|07
    |11p|09> |10would slow/lag and then pop back in executing all the commands that|07
    |11p|09> |10hadn't registered - the bbs looks beautiful and I'm st0ked that yer|07
    |11p|09> |10playing on Haiku!|07

    That could be a few things, but I don't think would be haiku, more likely something network related, it's a long way to a garage in Australia from your place ;P

    My wife has been torrenting some things for my father in law to watch while he's in hospital, so could be that, or anything really. Could even be my crappy powerline ethernet connection between the garage and the room with the router.

    I've not had it happen on the lan though, so I'm not sure.

    Andrew


    --- WWIV 5.9.0.development[NetBSD]
    * Origin: Cabinet of Curiosities - WWIV on NetBSD! (21:1/182)
  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Apam on Fri Nov 24 17:33:00 2023
    Everything seemed perfect except I did notice some times when the syste would slow/lag

    That could be a few things, but I don't think would be haiku, more likely something network related, it's a long way to a garage in Australia from your place ;P

    No worries - it could be some of the things yer mentioning, but didn't FEEL like it. At any rate, I know yer just playing around - and I love coming by and doing the same... I always speak up about 'all the things' - kudos on yer Haiku joint!



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbs>>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150)