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    From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to All on Fri Aug 7 17:32:00 2020
    Howdy!,

    Earlier I wrote about trying to use a 4TB External USB HDD with the XP pc.

    I learned XP couldn't use it, so I used it with a computer with Vista on it.

    I have wondered if before I had saved files to it on the Vista pc if XP would had been able to use the Drive if I had used the Vista pc to Partitioned it into Two 2TB sections?

    Would XP be able to see both of the Two (logical?) Drives if I did that?

    TNX es 73 de Ed W9ODR . .

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  • From Kostie Muirhead@1:342/17 to Ed Vance on Fri Aug 7 17:27:57 2020
    Re: 4TB HDD w/ XP
    By: Ed Vance to All on Fri Aug 07 2020 05:32 pm

    Earlier I wrote about trying to use a 4TB External USB HDD with the XP
    pc.
    I learned XP couldn't use it, so I used it with a computer with Vista on it.
    I have wondered if before I had saved files to it on the Vista pc if XP would had been able to use the Drive if I had used the Vista pc to Partitioned it into Two 2TB sections?

    Probably not. The >2TB drive size limit was typically a controller issue, not a filesystem issue.
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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to Kostie Muirhead on Mon Aug 10 21:30:00 2020
    08-07-20 17:27 Kostie Muirhead wrote to Ed Vance about 4TB HDD w/ XP
    Howdy! Kostie,

    Thank You for educating "Ed".

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    Re: 4TB HDD w/ XP
    By: Ed Vance to All on Fri Aug 07 2020 05:32 pm

    Earlier I wrote about trying to use a 4TB External USB HDD with the XP
    pc.
    I learned XP couldn't use it, so I used it with a computer with Vista on it.
    I have wondered if before I had saved files to it on the Vista pc if XP would had been able to use the Drive if I had used the Vista pc to Partitioned it into Two 2TB sections?

    Probably not. The >2TB drive size limit was typically a controller
    issue, not a filesystem issue. ===
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    A long time ago I got a 3TB WD External HDD for this XP pc.
    I used it with a FireWire cable.

    I just now tried to see if XP could see it but failed.

    So I tried unplugging the FireWire connector and using a USB cable but that hasn't been recognized by this computer either.

    Oh Well, another learning experience I will have to put on the ROUNDTUIT
    List to figure out why iirc the HDD worked long ago but not now.

    HMMMM?

    Could XP see a 3TB HDD or is 2TB the limit as You wrote earlier.

    Thanks, 73 de Ed W9ODR


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  • From Kostie Muirhead@1:342/17 to Ed Vance on Mon Aug 10 22:41:23 2020
    Re: Re: 4TB HDD w/ XP
    By: Ed Vance to Kostie Muirhead on Mon Aug 10 2020 09:30 pm

    Thank You for educating "Ed".
    Probably not. The >2TB drive size limit was typically a controller
    issue, not a filesystem issue. ===
    A long time ago I got a 3TB WD External HDD for this XP pc.
    Could XP see a 3TB HDD or is 2TB the limit as You wrote earlier.
    Thanks, 73 de Ed W9ODR

    You'd likely be able to read one 2tb partition on the drive under XP if the sata controller itself supports drives over 2tb (if not it just won't show up at all), but to partition anything over 2tb on a drive you need to use GPT instead of MBR formatting, and the earliest OS that will read a GPT/GUID drive is Vista on the consumer side, and Server 2008 on the Enterprise side.

    Hope that helps!
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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to Kostie Muirhead on Wed Aug 12 08:24:00 2020
    08-10-20 22:41 Kostie Muirhead wrote to Ed Vance about Re: 4TB HDD w/ XP
    Howdy! Koastie,

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    Re: Re: 4TB HDD w/ XP
    By: Ed Vance to Kostie Muirhead on Mon Aug 10 2020 09:30 pm

    Thank You for educating "Ed".
    Probably not. The >2TB drive size limit was typically a controller
    issue, not a filesystem issue. ===
    A long time ago I got a 3TB WD External HDD for this XP pc.
    Could XP see a 3TB HDD or is 2TB the limit as You wrote earlier.
    Thanks, 73 de Ed W9ODR

    You'd likely be able to read one 2tb partition on the drive under XP if the sata controller itself supports drives over 2tb (if not it just
    won't show up at all), but to partition anything over 2tb on a drive
    you need to use GPT instead of MBR formatting, and the earliest OS that will read a GPT/GUID drive is Vista on the consumer side, and Server
    2008 on the Enterprise side.

    Hope that helps!

    From reading BBS messages about Computer stuff (and reading some other web sites) I learned some of the TechSpeak but haven't read about GPT.

    I guess it has something to do with the newer Motherboards which replaced
    the CMOS Chip with a more improved circuit.
    I can't remember what the newer Chip on the Motherboards is called.

    I've read about MBR (iirc Master Boot Record) being used on pc HDD using the FAT, FAT32 and NTSC systems on the computers that I have here, I'm a BIT UnEDucated on the later hardware.

    Got this XP in 2006, I waited some time to see if there were lots of
    complaints about XP before I wanted to buy one.
    The Scotchman part of Me says wait before spending any money, You know how
    that is, don't You?

    I like to learn by reading about other peoples experiences before jumping in with both feet into something new to Me.

    73 de Ed W9ODR . .


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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to Kostie Muirhead on Wed Aug 12 08:44:00 2020
    08-10-20 22:41 Kostie Muirhead wrote to Ed Vance about Re: 4TB HDD w/ XP

    Howdy! Again, Kostie,

    I had just saw Your message to MRO in the Internet echo and had to make
    a TAGLINE out of Your comment to Him.

    73 de Ed W9ODR . .



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  • From Kostie Muirhead@1:342/17 to Ed Vance on Wed Aug 12 16:38:57 2020
    Re: Re: 4TB HDD w/ XP
    By: Ed Vance to Kostie Muirhead on Wed Aug 12 2020 08:24 am

    From reading BBS messages about Computer stuff (and reading some other
    web
    sites) I learned some of the TechSpeak but haven't read about GPT.
    I guess it has something to do with the newer Motherboards which replaced the CMOS Chip with a more improved circuit.
    I can't remember what the newer Chip on the Motherboards is called.

    Yup, you're pretty much right on the money. GPT is used for EFI and UEFI boot management. MBR and BIOS are mostly just supported as legacy now, and I've seen a couple systems that just don't support the older standards for boot at all.
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  • From Kostie Muirhead@1:342/17 to Ed Vance on Wed Aug 12 16:39:18 2020
    Re: Re: 4TB HDD w/ XP
    By: Ed Vance to Kostie Muirhead on Wed Aug 12 2020 08:44 am

    I had just saw Your message to MRO in the Internet echo and had to make
    a TAGLINE out of Your comment to Him.
    ... The 3rd party program I prefer most is called Linux ;) - Underminer

    Haha, I love it.
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