I recall sysops talking about configuring lynx (text-based "web" browser) to run as a door on their *nix Synchronet system. Anyone have that up and going for a demo?
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On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 20:57:46 -0800
"Digital Man" (VERT) <VERT!Digital.Man@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:

I recall sysops talking about configuring lynx (text-based "web"
browser) to run as a door on their *nix Synchronet system. Anyone
have that up and going for a demo?

Add a native program called runlynx
mkdir /sbbs/xtrn/lynx
create runlynx with something like

#!/bin/bash
/usr/bin/lynx -restrictions=bookmark,bookmark_exec,change_exec_perms,chdir,compileopts_info,default,dired_support,disk_save,dotfiles,download,editor,exec,exec_frozen,externals,file_url,inside_ftp,inside_news,inside_rlogin,inside_telnet,jump,lynxcfg_info,lynxcfg_xinfo,lynxcgi,mail,multibook,news_post,option_save,outside_ftp,outside_news,outside_rlogin,outside_telnet,print,shell,suspend,telnet_port,useragent
https://www.endofthelinebbs.com

add/remove restrictions as you wish. These are all of them except Gogo otherwise you couldn't navigate anywhere, unless you want people to
only use links available to them.

Save and make runlynx chmod 755 or 750 or whatever you like.

Add a menu option

[Lynx]
1: Name Lynx
2: Internal Code LYNX
3: Start-up Directory ../xtrn/lynx
4: Command Line runlynx
5: Clean-up Command Line
6: Execution Cost None
7: Access Requirements
8: Execution Requirements SYSOP
9: Multiple Concurrent Users Yes
10: I/O Method Standard
11: Native Executable/Script No
12: Use Shell or New Context No
13: Modify User Data No
14: Execute on Event No
15: Pause After Execution No
16: Disable Local Display No
17: BBS Drop File Type None
18: Place Drop File In Node Directory
19: Time Options...


Recycle and you're good to go.
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Re: Re: Lynx?
By: nelgin to Digital Man on Sun Feb 11 2024 11:48 pm

Add a native program called runlynx

Yeah, I was asking if there's a BBS running it already, available as a demo (for someone else), not (yet) instructions on how to do it. :-)
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On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 21:50:39 -0800
"Digital Man" (VERT) <VERT!Digital.Man@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:

Re: Re: Lynx?
By: nelgin to Digital Man on Sun Feb 11 2024 11:48 pm

Add a native program called runlynx

Yeah, I was asking if there's a BBS running it already, available as
a demo (for someone else), not (yet) instructions on how to do it. :-)

Then, obviously, yes :) but not open to users but I can grant access to
it on a per user basis.
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Re: Lynx?
By: Digital Man to All on Sun Feb 11 2024 08:57 pm

I recall sysops talking about configuring lynx (text-based "web" browser) to run as a door on their *nix Synchronet system. Anyone have that up and going for a demo?

I've always wanted to try that but have been scared to.. I have a tendency to skim documents and my luck, I would have it setup incorrectly and someone will be playing around on my shell while I'm asleep and I wake up to a wiped out hdd.. lol
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 01:33:30 -0500
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Re: Lynx?
By: Digital Man to All on Sun Feb 11 2024 08:57 pm

I recall sysops talking about configuring lynx (text-based "web" browser) to run as a door on their *nix Synchronet system.
Anyone have that up and going for a demo?

I've always wanted to try that but have been scared to.. I have a
tendency to skim documents and my luck, I would have it setup
incorrectly and someone will be playing around on my shell while I'm
asleep and I wake up to a wiped out hdd.. lol Tim Smith (kk4qbn)

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Don't worry, you can always restore from backup.
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Re: Re: Lynx?
By: Digital Man to nelgin on Sun Feb 11 2024 09:50 pm

Yeah, I was asking if there's a BBS running it already, available as a demo (for someone else), not (yet) instructions on how to do it. :-)

I used links, but TacoPronto(.bbs.io) has it!

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Re: Re: Lynx?
By: nelgin to All on Mon Feb 12 2024 04:10 am

to skim documents and my luck, I would have it setup incorrectly and
someone will be playing around on my shell while I'm asleep and I wake up
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been there and done that.. much easier than starting from scratch, but would still rather not have to :)
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Re: Re: Lynx?
By: Digital Man to nelgin on Sun Feb 11 2024 09:50 pm

Yeah, I was asking if there's a BBS running it already, available as a demo

By the way, do you have any suggestions of how to get the program to use CP437 rather than UTF-8? I'm running it in Linux. Under WWIV, I _believe_ all I did was add a TERM=ansi-bbs setting in my run script, but that doesn't seem to be doing it with Synchronet. I do have the correct terminfo stuff, of course. I've tried also using the options of the program itself to assume CP437 of all web pages, but when you go to the 'setup' dropdown, it still uses UTF-8 for default.

It's not a big deal, but every once in a while you get an odd character.

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On 11 Feb 2024, Digital Man said the following...

I recall sysops talking about configuring lynx (text-based "web"
browser) to run as a door on their *nix Synchronet system. Anyone have that up and going for a demo?

some university used to run a telnet direct to lynx service back in the day
so that's what we did for a lynx door. not sure if the config.h did/still does have a no-priviledges mode or if they did something custom.

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Re: Re: Lynx?
By: Phigan to Digital Man on Mon Feb 12 2024 08:16 am

Re: Re: Lynx?
By: Digital Man to nelgin on Sun Feb 11 2024 09:50 pm

Yeah, I was asking if there's a BBS running it already, available as a demo

By the way, do you have any suggestions of how to get the program to use CP437 rather than UTF-8? I'm running it in Linux. Under WWIV, I _believe_ all I did was add a TERM=ansi-bbs setting in my run script, but that doesn't seem to be doing it with Synchronet. I do have the correct terminfo stuff, of course. I've tried also using the options of the program itself to assume CP437 of all web pages, but when you go to the 'setup' dropdown, it still uses UTF-8 for default.

It's not a big deal, but every once in a while you get an odd character.

The ExternalTermANSI setting in ctrl/sbbs.ini controls the TERM env var when exectuing external programs (defaults to "pc3" for Linux, but Deuce is suggesting "pcansi" instead). Try changing that setting.
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Re: Re: Lynx?
By: Digital Man to Phigan on Mon Feb 12 2024 12:18 pm

The ExternalTermANSI setting in ctrl/sbbs.ini controls the TERM env var when exectuing external programs (defaults to "pc3" for Linux, but Deuce is suggesting "pcansi" instead). Try changing that setting.

Mine actually was already set to "ansi-bbs", assuming it's what you would want the TERM setting to be, right? I don't think there's a "pc3" or "pcansi" TERM setting, is there?

I'll try it anyway, though :)

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Re: Re: Lynx?
By: Digital Man to Phigan on Mon Feb 12 2024 12:18 pm

The ExternalTermANSI setting in ctrl/sbbs.ini controls the TERM env var when

I found that the TERM setting was already ansi-bbs when running links. So, it must've been something else that sets the default character set.

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Re: Re: Lynx?
By: Phigan to Digital Man on Mon Feb 12 2024 02:28 pm

Re: Re: Lynx?
By: Digital Man to Phigan on Mon Feb 12 2024 12:18 pm

The ExternalTermANSI setting in ctrl/sbbs.ini controls the TERM env var when exectuing external programs (defaults to "pc3" for Linux, but Deuce is suggesting "pcansi" instead). Try changing that setting.

Mine actually was already set to "ansi-bbs", assuming it's what you would want the TERM setting to be, right? I don't think there's a "pc3" or "pcansi" TERM setting, is there?

I'll try it anyway, though :)

pc3 is a default terminfo installed on most/all Linux's: /usr/share/terminfo/p/pc3

ansi-bbs probably is preferred if you have that terminfo setup on your system. --
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Re: Re: Lynx?
By: Phigan to Digital Man on Mon Feb 12 2024 02:38 pm

Re: Re: Lynx?
By: Digital Man to Phigan on Mon Feb 12 2024 12:18 pm

The ExternalTermANSI setting in ctrl/sbbs.ini controls the TERM env var when

I found that the TERM setting was already ansi-bbs when running links. So, it must've been something else that sets the default character set.

Probably 'LANG'.
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Re: Re: Lynx?
By: Digital Man to Phigan on Mon Feb 12 2024 02:20 pm

Probably 'LANG'.

I checked that, and LANG is UTF-8 under WWIV. Doesn't seem to affect it.
There wasn't anything that seemed significant in the differences of environment variables when running via WWIV and Synchronet, which I checked by putting a 'set' in the execution script.

One thing that I did notice, I could send keystrokes to 'more' through WWIV but not through Synchronet. In SN I had to kill 'more' from command line.

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Re: Re: Lynx?
By: Phigan to Digital Man on Mon Feb 12 2024 10:08 pm

Re: Re: Lynx?
By: Digital Man to Phigan on Mon Feb 12 2024 02:20 pm

Probably 'LANG'.

I checked that, and LANG is UTF-8 under WWIV. Doesn't seem to affect it. There wasn't anything that seemed significant in the differences of environment variables when running via WWIV and Synchronet, which I checked by putting a 'set' in the execution script.

You might have to 'export' it too (?).

One thing that I did notice, I could send keystrokes to 'more' through WWIV but not through Synchronet. In SN I had to kill 'more' from command line.

Was the keystroke ^C by chance?

There was a bug recently introduced (in Linux builds) and recently fixed (in sbbs) where ^C didn't interrupt external programs executed by sbbs.
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Re: Re: Lynx?
By: Digital Man to Phigan on Mon Feb 12 2024 10:32 pm

You might have to 'export' it too (?).

Yeah, I always 'export'.

Was the keystroke ^C by chance?

There was a bug recently introduced (in Linux builds) and recently fixed (in sbbs) where ^C didn't interrupt external programs executed by sbbs.

No, any key. What I mean is that on the WWIV board, I put "set|more" in the exec script and I was able to press space and q and such. When I did the same on the SN board, I couldn't send any input to more and had to kill it. Links still takes the input, oddly enough. Not sure if it makes a difference, but I have to have "native script" set to yes, otherwise it says this node doesn't support dosemu or somesuch message.

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Re: Re: Lynx?
By: Phigan to Digital Man on Tue Feb 13 2024 02:46 am

Re: Re: Lynx?
By: Digital Man to Phigan on Mon Feb 12 2024 10:32 pm

You might have to 'export' it too (?).

Yeah, I always 'export'.

Was the keystroke ^C by chance?

There was a bug recently introduced (in Linux builds) and recently fixed (in sbbs) where ^C didn't interrupt external programs executed by sbbs.

No, any key. What I mean is that on the WWIV board, I put "set|more" in the exec script and I was able to press space and q and such. When I did the same on the SN board, I couldn't send any input to more and had to kill it. Links still takes the input, oddly enough. Not sure if it makes a difference, but I have to have "native script" set to yes, otherwise it says this node doesn't support dosemu or somesuch message.

Yeah, your *nix shell and its commands (e.g. set, more) are native (non-DOS) programs, so that makes sense (would have to be set to "Yes").

Not sure about not being able to send keystrokes to it. Many 32-bit *nix doors depend on standard I/O interception and work fine, so maybe it's something to do with the use of pipe (|).
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Re: Re: Lynx?
By: Digital Man to Phigan on Mon Feb 12 2024 10:32 pm

Was the keystroke ^C by chance?

What were you going to say if it had been ^C? Is there something blocking that control code? I noticed I can't cancel out of "windows" in Links and have to just accept and get an error sometimes.

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Re: Re: Lynx?
By: Phigan to Digital Man on Wed Feb 14 2024 09:31 am

Re: Re: Lynx?
By: Digital Man to Phigan on Mon Feb 12 2024 10:32 pm

Was the keystroke ^C by chance?

What were you going to say if it had been ^C? Is there something blocking that control code? I noticed I can't cancel out of "windows" in Links and have to just accept and get an error sometimes.

There was a bug that was recently fixed that prevented ^C from interrupting external programs in Linux versions of SBBS.
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On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 11:31:20 -0800
"Digital Man" (VERT) <VERT!Digital.Man@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:

Re: Re: Lynx?
By: Phigan to Digital Man on Wed Feb 14 2024 09:31 am

Re: Re: Lynx?
By: Digital Man to Phigan on Mon Feb 12 2024 10:32 pm

Was the keystroke ^C by chance?

What were you going to say if it had been ^C? Is there something
blocking that control code? I noticed I can't cancel out of
"windows" in Links and have to just accept and get an error
sometimes.

There was a bug that was recently fixed that prevented ^C from
interrupting external programs in Linux versions of SBBS.

Posting this as a test to try and address something DM bright up.
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