Re: quoting in a reply
By: Digital Man to xbit on Sun May 28 2023 12:41 pm

It's always possible that a bug was introduced. Do you get full quoting when using fseditor.js?

Should have thought of testing that as well. Yes, I can quote the entire message in fseditor.js.

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Re: quoting in a reply
By: xbit to Digital Man on Thu Jun 01 2023 06:31 am

It's always possible that a bug was introduced. Do you get full
quoting when using fseditor.js?

Should have thought of testing that as well. Yes, I can quote the entire message in fseditor.js.

In the external editor configuration in SCFG, there is an option for each editor that says "Word-wrap quoted text", where you can have Synchronet wrap quote lines to a certain width (0 = terminal width). I have that enabled for SlyEdit.

Maybe I could see what fseditor is doing differently that allows it to quote the entire message.

Nightfox

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Re: quoting in a reply
By: xbit to Digital Man on Thu Jun 01 2023 06:31 am

Re: quoting in a reply
By: Digital Man to xbit on Sun May 28 2023 12:41 pm

It's always possible that a bug was introduced. Do you get full quoting when using fseditor.js?

Should have thought of testing that as well. Yes, I can quote the entire message in fseditor.js.

Can you examine the QUOTES.TXT file in your node directory? Does it contain the entire quoted-message text or any anomalies? What about the INPUT.MSG or MSGTMP file?
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Quick question.. when quoting in a reply i'm only offered a few of the first lines to quote from when using SlyEdit, IceEdit, etc full screen editors. I don't remember it always being like this so did I bork a setting somewhere?

I'm responding to (and quoted) your message here using IceEdit v2.35, successfully. It looks like the key setting is "World-wrap Quoted Text". Set that to Yes (either 80 columns or "for terminal width"). IceEdit and other messages editors may not automatically word-wrap text in the quoted message and just truncate lines of text longer than the current terminal width (or just 80 columns possibly).
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Quick question.. when quoting in a reply i'm only offered a few of the first this so did I bork a setting somewhere?

And this is what happens when you use a wide (wider than 80 column terminal) and quote using IceEdit with the "Word-wrap Quoted Text" setting set to "Yes, for terminal width" - so you should definitely set this setting to "Yes, for 80 columns" for IceEdit.
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Hello Sync Ops, Quick question.. when quoting in a reply i'm
only offered a few of the first lines to quote from when
using SlyEdit, IceEdit, etc full screen editors. I don't
remember it always being l this so did I bork a setting
somewhere? Thanks, x

Interestingly, DCTEdit seems to handle long lines fine in the quoted message text, but totally foobars the header when displayed in a wide terminal.

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On 01 Jun 2023, Digital Man said the following...

Interestingly, DCTEdit seems to handle long lines fine in the quoted message text, but totally foobars the header when displayed in a wide terminal.

i was thinking the other day it would be kind of neat to "re-parent" the bbs session.. kind of like how gameboy games looked like with a decorative border on the super gameboy, but with ansi art and perhaps some "out of bounds" data like the node list.. then hook the terminal resize messages to keep the bbs part centered but then show the extra when the window is large enough..

anyways that made me think of the little restricted virtual terminal you would need to handle the output .. which would also be useful for doors/ansi/etc
that don't handle the wide terminal well.

anyways .. just thinking out loud

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Re: quoting in a reply
By: Nightfox to xbit on Thu Jun 01 2023 09:30 am

In the external editor configuration in SCFG, there is an option for each editor that says "Word-wrap quoted text", where you can have Synchronet wrap quote lines to a certain width (0 = terminal width). I have that enabled for SlyEdit.

Nailed it! Thank you for help and awesome editor.

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Re: quoting in a reply
By: Digital Man to xbit on Thu Jun 01 2023 10:29 am

Can you examine the QUOTES.TXT file in your node directory? Does it contain the entire quoted-message text or any anomalies? What about the INPUT.MSG or MSGTMP file?

It was the following setting in SCFG:
Word-wrap Quoted Text Yes, for terminal width

It was set to "NO" but after changing that it now works like a charm.

Thanks all.

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Re: quoting in a reply
By: Digital Man to xbit on Thu Jun 01 2023 11:48 am

I'm responding to (and quoted) your message here using IceEdit v2.35, successfully. It looks like the key setting is "World-wrap Quoted Text". Set that to Yes (either 80 columns or "for terminal width"). IceEdit and

^^ That was it! Not sure how or when it was changed but I'm good to go now. EZ fix.

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Re: Re: quoting in a reply
By: fusion to Digital Man on Fri Jun 02 2023 01:50 am

On 01 Jun 2023, Digital Man said the following...

Interestingly, DCTEdit seems to handle long lines fine in the quoted message text, but totally foobars the header when displayed in a wide terminal.

i was thinking the other day it would be kind of neat to "re-parent" the bbs session.. kind of like how gameboy games looked like with a decorative border on the super gameboy, but with ansi art and perhaps some "out of bounds" data like the node list.. then hook the terminal resize messages to keep the bbs part centered but then show the extra when the window is large enough..

anyways that made me think of the little restricted virtual terminal you would need to handle the output .. which would also be useful for doors/ansi/etc
that don't handle the wide terminal well.

anyways .. just thinking out loud

Yeah, I've had the same thought (e.g. themed borders and backgrounds utilizing highcolor bitmaps) while keepnig the main content still in an 80x25 box in the middle. I think some of this can be achieved with RIP already, but I think we can do better.
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Re: quoting in a reply
By: xbit to Digital Man on Fri Jun 02 2023 06:21 am

Re: quoting in a reply
By: Digital Man to xbit on Thu Jun 01 2023 10:29 am

Can you examine the QUOTES.TXT file in your node directory? Does it contain the entire quoted-message text or any anomalies? What about the INPUT.MSG or MSGTMP file?

It was the following setting in SCFG:
Word-wrap Quoted Text Yes, for terminal width

It was set to "NO" but after changing that it now works like a charm.

You'll want to set that to "80". :-)
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Re: quoting in a reply
By: xbit to Digital Man on Fri Jun 02 2023 06:22 am

Re: quoting in a reply
By: Digital Man to xbit on Thu Jun 01 2023 11:48 am

I'm responding to (and quoted) your message here using IceEdit v2.35, successfully. It looks like the key setting is "World-wrap Quoted Text". Set that to Yes (either 80 columns or "for terminal width"). IceEdit and

^^ That was it! Not sure how or when it was changed but I'm good to go now. EZ fix.

The option was introduced (it wasn't always there, so you were just using the default). We used to always word-wrap or truncate quoted text.
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Re: quoting in a reply
By: xbit to Nightfox on Fri Jun 02 2023 06:18 am

In the external editor configuration in SCFG, there is an option for
each editor that says "Word-wrap quoted text", where you can have
Synchronet wrap quote lines to a certain width (0 = terminal width).
I have that enabled for SlyEdit.

Nailed it! Thank you for help and awesome editor.

You're welcome.
I'm also curious what version of Synchronet and SlyEdit you're using? I tried turning the word-wrap setting to "no" and replied to a few messages, and was able to see all the lines when quoting.

Nightfox

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Re: quoting in a reply
By: Nightfox to xbit on Sun Jun 04 2023 12:22 pm

Re: quoting in a reply
By: xbit to Nightfox on Fri Jun 02 2023 06:18 am

In the external editor configuration in SCFG, there is an option for
each editor that says "Word-wrap quoted text", where you can have
Synchronet wrap quote lines to a certain width (0 = terminal width).
I have that enabled for SlyEdit.

Nailed it! Thank you for help and awesome editor.

You're welcome.
I'm also curious what version of Synchronet and SlyEdit you're using? I tried turning the word-wrap setting to "no" and replied to a few messages, and was able to see all the lines when quoting.

Were you in a narrow (<=80 column) terminal mode? Were you quoting messages that had long (>80 character) lines?
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Re: quoting in a reply
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Jun 04 2023 01:43 pm

I'm also curious what version of Synchronet and SlyEdit you're using?
I tried turning the word-wrap setting to "no" and replied to a few
messages, and was able to see all the lines when quoting.

Were you in a narrow (<=80 column) terminal mode? Were you quoting messages that had long (>80 character) lines?

Yes, I was using an 80 column terminal. I'm actually not sure if the messages I was quoting had >80 character lines (I'm not sure if there's an easy way to tell that). The current version of SlyEdit does do some wrapping of quote lines to enable you to see all of them, which is why I was asking what version of SlyEdit he was using. A while ago, for some messages I'd only see the first line or two of quote lines in SlyEdit, and I had added some simple quote wrapping to help with that.

Nightfox

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Re: quoting in a reply
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Sun Jun 04 2023 06:06 pm

Yes, I was using an 80 column terminal. I'm actually not sure if the messages I was quoting had >80 character lines (I'm not sure if there's an easy way to tell that).

I enable raw I/O mode (using Ctrl-Z) which disables word/line-wrap when viewing messages, to check it.
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Re: quoting in a reply
By: Nightfox to xbit on Sun Jun 04 2023 12:22 pm

You're welcome. I'm also curious what version of Synchronet
and SlyEdit you're using? I tri turning the word-wrap setting
to "no" and replied to a few messages, and was able to see all the
lines when quoting.

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Re: quoting in a reply
By: xbit to Nightfox on Mon Jun 05 2023 04:32 am

3.19 and SlyEdit 1.75 (2021-12-11)

The latest SlyEdit is 1.85 (2023-05-15). I added simple quote line wrapping in 1.83.

Nightfox

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