I've played with Linux many times. I can make it do most things, but it always seems to take more work then using Windows. What is a good reason to run a bbs on Linux? I am not in need of computers, I have around 10 setting in my office right now doing various things. One even has Linux on it. Windows10 32bit seems to be perfect for running my bbs, and setting up door games.

Tim

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Re: Linux?
By: Tim Whitson to All on Mon Mar 01 2021 22:09:45

run a bbs on Linux? I am not in need of computers, I have around 10 setting in my office right now doing various things. One even has Linux on it.

On linux you can run dos/win doors as well as Linux doors. Windows can only run the dos/win32 games...

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Re: Linux?
By: Tim Whitson to All on Mon Mar 01 2021 10:09 pm

I've played with Linux many times. I can make it do most things, but it always seems to take more work then using Windows. What is a good reason to run a bbs on Linux?

If you're a "Windows Guy" there's a steep learning curve running a BBS on Linux. Unless you just want to run a "stock" BBS. MarisaG could set you up with a standard synchronet BBS on Ubuntu. Let me know if you're interested in something like that or drop her a line yourself. She may also have a windows setup too. Good luck! Keep BBSin Alive!

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Re: Linux?
By: Tim Whitson to All on Mon Mar 01 2021 10:09 pm

I've played with Linux many times. I can make it do most things, but it always seems to take more work then using Windows. What is a good reason to run a bbs on Linux? I am not in need of computers, I have around 10 setting in my office right now doing various things. One even has Linux on it. Windows10 32bit seems to be perfect for running my bbs, and setting up door games.

One thing I like about Linux is that Linux is free, and you can always download a freely-available Linux distro and run it on a PC.

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Re: Linux?
By: Tim Whitson to All on Mon Mar 01 2021 10:09 pm

I've played with Linux many times. I can make it do most things, but it always seems to take more work then using Windows. What is a good reason to run a bbs on Linux?

Performance, reliability and remote manageability.

I am not in need of computers, I have around 10 setting
in my office right now doing various things. One even has Linux on it. Windows10 32bit seems to be perfect for running my bbs, and setting up door games.

For 16-bit DOS door games, I don't think anything is better than a 32-bit install of Windows currently. Linux w/DOSEMU might be "good enough" for a lot of BBSes, but it'll never be quite as good as the Win32 system for that one particular use case. For everything else, Linux is a better choice, IMHO.
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Re: Linux?
By: HusTler to Tim Whitson on Tue Mar 02 2021 08:04:13

Linux. Unless you just want to run a "stock" BBS. MarisaG could set you up with a standard synchronet BBS on Ubuntu. Let me know if you're interested in something like that or drop her a line yourself. She may also have a

Thanks for the mention. You can get more info on what I bundle at https://synchronetbbs.org/HostSplash the stats are in general much more than a BBS requires so there is lot of room to grow.

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Re: Linux?
By: Digital Man to Tim Whitson on Tue Mar 02 2021 01:18 pm

For 16-bit DOS door games, I don't think anything is better than a 32-bit install of Windows currently. Linux w/DOSEMU might be "good enough" for a lo of BBSes, but it'll never be quite as good as the Win32 system for that one particular use case. For everything else, Linux is a better choice, IMHO.

I pretty much run the BBS for the games. I am thinking about trying a Linux Gamesrv install to run the Linux only door games. Then RLogin into it from my Windows machine.

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Marisag wrote to Tim Whitson <=-

On linux you can run dos/win doors as well as Linux doors. Windows can only run the dos/win32 games...

32-bit Windows can run 16-bit binaries just fine. I haven't played with the 3rd party DOSVDM that's out there, but it's promising.


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Re: Linux?
By: Digital Man to Tim Whitson on Tue Mar 02 2021 01:18 pm

For 16-bit DOS door games, I don't think anything is better than a 32-bit install of Windows currently. Linux w/DOSEMU might be "good enough" for a lo of BBSes, but it'll never be quite as good as the Win32 system for that one particular use case. For everything else, Linux is a better choice, IMHO.

I pretty much run the BBS for the games. I am thinking about trying a Linux Gamesrv install to run the Linux only door games. Then RLogin into it from my Windows machine.

I started my game server as a Linux based Synchronet BBS, it soon became obvious that win32 is a more stable option, especially if you which to offer TradeWars 2002 ... it is very very tricky to get running under dosemu, if at all, and if your system is a Buster release, well, domenu is not supported and dosemu2 sucks ...

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On 3/1/2021 10:09 PM, Tim Whitson wrote:

I've played with Linux many times. I can make it do most things, but it always
seems to take more work then using Windows. What is a good reason to run a bbs
on Linux? I am not in need of computers, I have around 10 setting in my office
right now doing various things. One even has Linux on it. Windows10 32bit seems to be perfect for running my bbs, and setting up door games.

For me, the biggest reason is automation, scripting and updates. It
does take a bit more to work it all out. I use docker for similar
reasons, it makes the scripting work and makes it much easier to
distributes with all dependencies in the box.

The second biggest would be that Linux VPSes are much more widely
available and less expensive than Windows VPSes, not to mention that
32bit Windows is likely going the way of the dodo, and will eventually
be completely unsupported... not that DosEmu is all that much better.
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Re: Re: Linux?
By: Mortifis to Tim Whitson on Wed Mar 03 2021 12:17 pm

I started my game server as a Linux based Synchronet BBS, it soon became obvious that win32 is a more stable option, especially if you which to offer TradeWars 2002 ... it is very very tricky to get running under dosemu, if at all, and if your system is a Buster release, well, domenu is not supported a dosemu2 sucks ...

I was thinking of only running the Linux based door games off the Linux game server and the other ones off the Win32 machine. I'll play with it a bit and see what works. It's not like I don't have time on my hands.

Tim

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Re: Re: Linux?
By: Mortifis to Tim Whitson on Wed Mar 03 2021 12:17 pm

I was thinking of only running the Linux based door games off the Linux game server and the other ones off the Win32 machine. I'll play with it a bit and see what works. It's not like I don't have time on my hands.

Tim

That's pretty much how I do it, and Synchronet's sbbsexec.dll virtual com and svdmansi make running legacy 16bit DOS doors easy

gregg

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Re: Linux?
By: Nightfox to Tim Whitson on Tue Mar 02 2021 08:30 am

One thing I like about Linux is that Linux is free, and you can always download a freely-available Linux distro and run it on a PC.

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