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    From Nigel Reed@1:103/705 to GitLab issue in main/sbbs on Sun Aug 4 19:35:32 2024
    open https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/767

    A user has noted that when they try to transfer a QWK packet, it displays the menu for selecting a protocol but always automatically fills in the default and doesn't allow them to change it. This is a bit confusing for the user so they reported it as a bug.

    I tend to agree there is no point in displaying the menu to pick a protocol if they're not going to be able to pick a protocol.

    Not sure if this is by design or not so thought I'd seek some clarity as to what's supposed to happen

    ```
    Packed 109802 messages (238.3M bytes) in 23 seconds (4774 messages/second).

    Filename : EOTLBBS.qwk
    File size : 53,516,311 (51.0M) bytes
    Time to download : 83:30:53

    [X] XMODEM [1] XMODEM-1K/CRC
    [8] ZMODEM-8K [S] ZMODEM-Synchronous
    [Y] YMODEM [G] YMODEM-G
    [Z] ZMODEM [K] KERMIT (G-Kermit)
    [E] E-mail Attachment [L] Local

    Protocol or Quit: Z <---- This is auto filled and bypassed.

    [√] Hang up after transfer? No
    ```
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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to GitLab note in main/sbbs on Sun Aug 4 19:44:42 2024
    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/767#note_5438

    It's by design. The user has chosen their default file transfer protocol ('Z' apparently in this case). Have them disable their default file transfer protocol if they don't want it to be automatically selected like this.
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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to GitLab issue in main/sbbs on Sun Aug 4 19:44:42 2024
    close https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/767
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  • From Mike Powell@1:103/705 to ROB SWINDELL on Mon Aug 5 09:58:00 2024
    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/767#note_5438

    It's by design. The user has chosen their default file transfer protocol ('Z' apparently in this case). Have them disable their default file transfer protocol if they don't want it to be automatically selected like this.

    Sounds like he is saying that they are not able to change it to a different protocol here. I know I am able to change it as I sometimes accidentally
    hit "X" instead of "Z" or just ENTER here to select my default (Zmodem).


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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Mike Powell on Mon Aug 5 13:22:47 2024
    Re: qwk transfer issue
    By: Mike Powell to ROB SWINDELL on Mon Aug 05 2024 09:58 am

    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/767#note_5438

    It's by design. The user has chosen their default file transfer protocol ('Z' apparently in this case). Have them disable their default file transfer protocol if they don't want it to be automatically selected like this.

    Sounds like he is saying that they are not able to change it to a different protocol here. I know I am able to change it as I sometimes accidentally hit "X" instead of "Z" or just ENTER here to select my default (Zmodem).

    Yup, and each user has the option (in their user settings on the BBS) of having a default protocol or not. This user, it sounds like, does have a default download protocol set.
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  • From nelgin@1:103/705 to All on Mon Aug 5 21:17:38 2024
    On Mon, 5 Aug 2024 13:22:47 -0700
    "Digital Man" (VERT) <VERT!Digital.Man@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:

    Re: qwk transfer issue
    By: Mike Powell to ROB SWINDELL on Mon Aug 05 2024 09:58 am

    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/767#note_5438

    It's by design. The user has chosen their default file transfer
    protocol ('Z' apparently in this case). Have them disable their
    default file transfer protocol if they don't want it to be
    automatically selected like this.

    Sounds like he is saying that they are not able to change it to a different protocol here. I know I am able to change it as I
    sometimes accidentally hit "X" instead of "Z" or just ENTER here
    to select my default (Zmodem).

    Yup, and each user has the option (in their user settings on the BBS)
    of having a default protocol or not. This user, it sounds like, does
    have a default download protocol set.

    Right, it just doesn't make sense to show them a list of protocols and automatically select theirs...just go to the download?
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to nelgin on Mon Aug 5 19:45:17 2024
    Re: Re: qwk transfer issue
    By: nelgin to All on Mon Aug 05 2024 09:17 pm

    Yup, and each user has the option (in their user settings on the BBS)
    of having a default protocol or not. This user, it sounds like, does
    have a default download protocol set.

    Right, it just doesn't make sense to show them a list of protocols and automatically select theirs...just go to the download?

    One could argue, now the user knows which protocol was (auto) selected. If it's a manually-started transfer protocols (as many/most of them are), then the user is reminded which protocol driver to start on their end.

    I suppose alternatively, the BBS could just display "Starting <protocol name> file transfer...". For a long time, there was no "protocol name" (just command a key and set of command-lines), but since there is now, that's a viable alternative design. If you want to submit a feature request, I'll consider it.
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  • From Nigel Reed@1:124/5016 to Digital Man on Wed Aug 7 02:02:49 2024
    Re: Re: qwk transfer issue
    By: Digital Man to nelgin on Mon Aug 05 2024 19:45:17

    I suppose alternatively, the BBS could just display "Starting <protocol name> file transfer...". For a long time, there was no "protocol name" (just command a key and set of command-lines), but since there is now, that's a viable alternative design. If you want to submit a feature request, I'll consider it.

    I think that would be preferred. I can see why a user would wonder why it's showing a list of protocols they can select from but it already selects one for them. I'm sure it doesn't come to mind they have a default set already.
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