In a message on 01-10-20 Holger Granholm said to Robin Hajek:

Hello again Robin,

I restored MultiLine Sio2K/2 and FrontDoor/2 and GEcho/2 and
PCBoard/2 and GoldED/2 after ten years and I had a lot of work with
the IP connection.

I don't understand why you are using all those external programs when
almost everything is built-in into PCBoard.

If I remember it correctly there is software in the SIO package that
I used to connect to internet but I don't remember if I used the
connection for anything else than just mail.

In addition to the above I have checked my registered SIO v1.35 program
and it contains the VMODEM program that I use with PCBoard to connect to
the Internet.

Nothing else was required for that.

Then again, I do use some PPE utilities that make it easier to use
PCBoard itself and for reading/replying to QWK messages the MR/2 program
for OS/2 but you can use MultiMail instead which is free and available
for many operating systems.

At the moment I'm investigating BinkP to connect to the Internet but I
have other things to do that are more important at the moment.


Have a nice day,

Holger


.. DOS is your PC. Windows is your PC on drugs. Any Question?
-- MR/2 2.30

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Hi, Holger!

I restored MultiLine Sio2K/2 and FrontDoor/2 and GEcho/2 and
PCBoard/2 and GoldED/2 after ten years and I had a lot of work
with the IP connection.

I don't understand why you are using all those external programs when almost everything is built-in into PCBoard.

The reason is simple. I only started with FidoNet and FrontDor and the necessary external programs. Only a year or two later I bought a PCBoard and used FrontDoor as a boot for PCBoard.

If I remember it correctly there is software in the SIO package
that I used to connect to internet but I don't remember if I used
the connection for anything else than just mail.

In addition to the above I have checked my registered SIO v1.35
program and it contains the VMODEM program that I use with PCBoard to connect to the Internet.

Yes, I also have a registered SIO program but I use v.1.6D and VMODEM to connect FrontDoor to the Internet.

More specifically, I should have. Today I use SIO2K v2.02 and eCS 2.2, not OS/2 Warp.

Nothing else was required for that.

Then again, I do use some PPE utilities that make it easier to use
PCBoard itself and for reading/replying to QWK messages the MR/2
program for OS/2 but you can use MultiMail instead which is free and available for many operating systems.

I understand, but I've never used PCBard alone and for FidoNet. It has always been just a bulletin board, so I have no experience connecting PCBoard to the Internet independently without FrontDoor :-(

At the moment I'm investigating BinkP to connect to the Internet but I have other things to do that are more important at the moment.

Yes, BinkD is the only option today because Telnet and port 23 are useless today :-(

I have time, but again I do not have programming skills and I cannot set many things myself. Previously, my colleague helped me with everything he could, but he doesn't deal with it anymore and I don't know English and I can't do anything without Google :-(

Bye
Robin

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Hi! Robin,

On 13 Jan 20 05:40, you wrote to Holger Granholm:

Yes, BinkD is the only option today because Telnet and port 23 are
useless today :-(

I have time, but again I do not have programming skills and I cannot
set many things myself. Previously, my colleague helped me with
everything he could, but he doesn't deal with it anymore and I don't
know English and I can't do anything without Google :-(

(I don't always read messages here, Robin.) I have to say that your written English is a lot better than some so-called 'native' English-speaking folks' efforts. Don't hold back.

Holger's posts get a 'wow!' from me every time, even if don't include them in my notes. :)

Cheers,
Paul.

... Docs? Why would I want to look at the Docs. Nurses are better!
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Hi, Paul!

(I don't always read messages here, Robin.) I have to say that your written English is a lot better than some so-called 'native' English-speaking folks' efforts. Don't hold back.

Thank you for the praise, but it belongs to Mr. GOOGLE :-) Microsoft translators and even produced in our country in the Czech Republic do not achieve so great results. Mr. GOODLE is very good. I try, but it is difficult especially when I need to answer :-(
Bye
Robin

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In a message on 01-13-20 Robin Hajek said to Holger Granholm:

Hi Robin,

I don't understand why you are using all those external programs when almost everything is built-in into PCBoard.

The reason is simple. I only started with FidoNet and FrontDor and
the necessary external programs. Only a year or two later I bought a PCBoard and used FrontDoor as a boot for PCBoard.

OK, I have only used FrontDoor APX (FDAPX) on my office and laptop
machines and that one doesn't require any external programs.

If I remember it correctly there is software in the SIO package

Yes, I also have a registered SIO program but I use v.1.6D and
VMODEM to connect FrontDoor to the Internet.

More specifically, I should have. Today I use SIO2K v2.02 and eCS
2.2, not OS/2 Warp.

Nothing else was required for that.

Interesting. I have also considered either eCS or the one called BlueLion

I understand, but I've never used PCBard alone and for FidoNet.
It has always been just a bulletin board, so I have no experience connecting PCBoard to the Internet independently without FrontDoor

Yes, BinkD is the only option today because Telnet and port 23 are
useless today :-(

You don't have to use port 23. You can use port 2023 instead.

I have time, but again I do not have programming skills and I cannot
set many things myself and I don't know English and I can't do
anything without Google :-(

Have a nice day.

Holger


.. Running without Microsoft or Intel.
-- MR/2 2.30



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Re: Re: 2020
By: Holger Granholm to Robin Hajek on Tue Jan 14 2020 21:31:00

I don't understand why you are using all those external programs
when almost everything is built-in into PCBoard.

The reason is simple. I only started with FidoNet and FrontDor and
the necessary external programs. Only a year or two later I bought
a PCBoard and used FrontDoor as a boot for PCBoard.

OK, I have only used FrontDoor APX (FDAPX) on my office and laptop machines and that one doesn't require any external programs.

it must be noted that there is a huge difference between Frontdoor and Frontdoor APX... the former is a general purpose FTN mailer whereas the latter is an all-in-one point user app... the former can be run stand-alone or in front of a BBS whereas the latter cannot be used to handle mail calls for a BBS at all...


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Hi, Mark!

Re: Re: 2020
By: Holger Granholm to Robin Hajek on Tue Jan 14 2020 21:31:00

I don't understand why you are using all those external
programs when almost everything is built-in into PCBoard.

The reason is simple. I only started with FidoNet and FrontDor
and the necessary external programs. Only a year or two later I
bought a PCBoard and used FrontDoor as a boot for PCBoard.

OK, I have only used FrontDoor APX (FDAPX) on my office and
laptop machines and that one doesn't require any external
programs.

it must be noted that there is a huge difference between Frontdoor and Frontdoor APX... the former is a general purpose FTN mailer whereas
the latter is an all-in-one point user app... the former can be run stand-alone or in front of a BBS whereas the latter cannot be used to handle mail calls for a BBS at all...

exactly. FrontDoor 2.32mL can be said for a professional and can do a lot, but requires external programs. For example, he worked for me 10 years ago as a multiline for 4x US Robotics Courier and I was NC for the Czech Republic. FDAPX is for end point and undemanding. In addition, I think that in Windows 64 bit does not even work :-(

Bye
Robin

--- GEcho 1.20/KLF Team
* Origin: POPPER Univerzal BBS (FidoNet), Praha, BOHEMIA & MORAVIA (2:420/33)

Hi, Holger!

I don't understand why you are using all those external programs
when almost everything is built-in into PCBoard.

The reason is simple. I only started with FidoNet and FrontDor and
the necessary external programs. Only a year or two later I bought
a PCBoard and used FrontDoor as a boot for PCBoard.

OK, I have only used FrontDoor APX (FDAPX) on my office and laptop machines and that one doesn't require any external programs.

FDAPX is a breeze, it can't run PCBoard, and if there's a coordinator in Fidonet, it can't use it and doesn't work in 64 bit.

Interesting. I have also considered either eCS or the one called
BlueLion

eCS and BlueLion are only slightly upgraded Warp. Kernel is still the same :-( But I love OS / 2 and so mmsm eCS even though it is not cheap :-(

I understand, but I've never used PCBard alone and for FidoNet.
It has always been just a bulletin board, so I have no experience
connecting PCBoard to the Internet independently without FrontDoor

Yes, BinkD is the only option today because Telnet and port 23 are
useless today :-(

You don't have to use port 23. You can use port 2023 instead.

I worked for a long time and I couldn't persuade SIO and VM. Finally, Tomi from Belgium advised me, and FrontDoor dials through port 2030, but we didn't solve it to accept calls as well.

Bye
Robin

--- GEcho 1.20/KLF Team
* Origin: POPPER Univerzal BBS (FidoNet), Praha, BOHEMIA & MORAVIA (2:420/33)

In a message on 01-15-20 Robin Karel Popper Alias said to Holger
Granholm:

Good evening Karel,

FDAPX is a breeze, it can't run PCBoard, and if there's a
coordinator in Fidonet, it can't use it and doesn't work in 64 bit.

Yes I know. I have only used FDAPX as a point when at my office or beeing
away on a trip. Since everything is built-in in PCBoard I have never had
a need for something to start it up.

eCS and BlueLion are only slightly upgraded Warp. Kernel is
still the same :-( But I love OS / 2 and so mmsm eCS even though it
is not cheap :-(

Yes I know about the prices and a little about what they do. The price
and the slowly dying Fidonet are the reasons why I have not upgraded to
either program.

I understand, but I've never used PCBard alone and for FidoNet.

I have always used PCBoard for both my BBS and Fidonet. Actually I joined Fidonet some years after starting the BBS.

Yes, BinkD is the only option today because Telnet and port 23 are
useless today :-(

It's not the only option and Telnet isn't dead yet.

I worked for a long time and I couldn't persuade SIO and VM.
Finally, Tomi from Belgium advised me, and FrontDoor dials through
port 2030, but we didn't solve it to accept calls as well.

Have a good night,

Holger


.. I'm not afraid to die but I don't want to be there when it happens
-- MR/2 2.30

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In a message on 01-15-20 mark lewis said to Holger Granholm:

Hi Mark,

OK, I have only used FrontDoor APX (FDAPX) on my office and laptop machines and that one doesn't require any external programs.

it must be noted that there is a huge difference between Frontdoor
and Frontdoor APX... the former is a general purpose FTN mailer

Yeah I know how the APX works and I have only used it to connect to my
BBS as a point when I have either been at my office or away.

I knew nothing about the "real" Frontdoor since I have never needed/used
it to start anything.

Thanks for the info.

Have a nice day,

Holger


.. Madness takes its toll... Please have exact change.
-- MR/2 2.30


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On 2020-01-11 10:39:00 +0000, Holger Granholm -> Robin Hajek said:

I don't understand why you are using all those external programs when
almost everything is built-in into PCBoard.

Sorry for such a late reply ~ the reason someone should use a different
tosser and mailer, are QFront has bugs, PCBoard/15.4 had bugs, and
well, the tosser does not handle any of the current special attributes
that are available now in the ^A kludge lines. This is one reason why I hadstarted rewriting the software ~ however, due to anxiety from other authors, my product changed names, and compatability.

PCB is still awesome in itself ~ I have a list of many PCB systems that
are still online ~ most not in Fidonet.

Best Regards,
Ozz

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Re: Re: 2020
By: Ozz Nixon to Holger Granholm on Fri Mar 13 2020 06:32 am

Hey Ozz,

I was wondering how progress was going with your PCB project? I've seen some of the screenshots. looking good! Any idea when there will be a public release yet?
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I was wondering how progress was going with your PCB project? I've seen some >of the screenshots. looking good! Any idea when there will be a public

release

I am working on the new release - probably a couple weeks away from
being ready to release ~ this will be a full PUBLIC release, as I have
included a setup program. Anyone wanting FTN networking, will require
one of the Alpha installers to help them configure everything. I am
still working on making that side of the suite easy to setup and
understand.

Thanks for the feedback - a lot of effort has gone into this release.
Ozz
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release

I am working on the new release - probably a couple weeks away from
being ready to release ~ this will be a full PUBLIC release, as I have included a setup program. Anyone wanting FTN networking, will require
one of the Alpha installers to help them configure everything. I am
still working on making that side of the suite easy to setup and
understand.

Thanks for the feedback - a lot of effort has gone into this release.
Ozz
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That’s very good news to hear. Hope the project turns out to be a huge success for you.

$ The Millionaire $

..."Will we ever fear the ecstasy of free thought?" - Thinkman...
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