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    From Björn Wiberg@2:201/137 to g00r00 on Fri Aug 6 15:14:19 2021
    Hello g00r00!

    A quick question:

    Does Mystic create/maintain any Mystic-specific files alongside each JAM base?

    MYSTIC.jdt
    MYSTIC.jdx
    MYSTIC.jhr
    MYSTIC.jlr
    MYSTIC.lnk
    MYSTIC.scn
    MYSTIC.xlr

    Im thinking about those .lnk, .scn and .xlr files?

    Would it safe to let some other software operate on the JAM bases (e.g. GoldEd), or would that "destroy" something for Mystic?

    Thanks in advance!

    Best regards
    Bj”rn

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/08/05 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (2:201/137)
  • From g00r00@1:129/215 to Björn Wiberg on Fri Aug 6 11:59:05 2021
    Would it safe to let some other software operate on the JAM bases (e.g. GoldEd), or would that "destroy" something for Mystic?

    Mystic does store additional information about a message base outside of JAM and I would assume anything else that uses JAM would too. The data files alone only store the message data.

    Either way you can use GoldEd with Mystic. MUTIL can even export a GoldEd configuration for your message areas!

    ... Multitasking: Reading in the bathroom
    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/07/31 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 * Mystic WHQ (1:129/215)
  • From Björn Wiberg@2:201/137 to g00r00 on Fri Aug 6 21:05:09 2021
    Hello g00r00!

    Thank you for your reply!

    Mystic does store additional information about a message base outside of JAM and I would assume anything else that uses JAM would too. The data files alone only store the message data.

    Sounds reasonable, yes! :)

    So, just to confirm -- the .lnk, .scn and .xlr are Mystic's?

    Either way you can use GoldEd with Mystic.

    Sounds great!

    MUTIL can even export a GoldEd
    configuration for your message areas!

    Yep, enabled now. :)

    Haven't gotten around to installing GoldEd+ yet, but have been thinking of it for some time... :)

    Best regards
    Bj”rn
    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/08/05 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (2:201/137)
  • From g00r00@1:129/215 to Björn Wiberg on Fri Aug 6 15:25:38 2021
    Sounds reasonable, yes! :)

    So, just to confirm -- the .lnk, .scn and .xlr are Mystic's?

    Yes, those are Mystic specific. The JAM storage are the files that have an extension that ends with .jXX and anything else with the base filename would be Mystic specific.

    The Mystic-specific files store things like echomail export/areafix stuff, QWK and newscan settings, echomail export pointers, and so on.

    Sounds great!

    MUTIL can even export a GoldEd
    configuration for your message areas!

    Yep, enabled now. :)

    I think you can put an "include" line into the GoldEd configuration that will load the bases directly from the file that MUTIL exports so you can automatically have everything show up in GoldEd.

    ... Great minds think alike; small minds run together

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/07/31 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 * Mystic WHQ (1:129/215)
  • From Björn Wiberg@2:201/137 to g00r00 on Fri Aug 6 21:44:42 2021
    Hello g00r00!

    On 06 Aug 2021, g00r00 said the following...
    Yes, those are Mystic specific. The JAM storage are the files that have an extension that ends with .jXX and anything else with the base
    filename would be Mystic specific.

    Thanks!

    I think you can put an "include" line into the GoldEd configuration that will load the bases directly from the file that MUTIL exports so you can automatically have everything show up in GoldEd.

    Thanks, yes, it seems so -- I just had a look at some example configurations and they seemed to use that feature for "modularity"...

    Best regards
    Bj”rn
    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/08/05 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (2:201/137)
  • From Björn Wiberg@2:201/137 to g00r00 on Fri Aug 6 21:55:05 2021
    Hello again, g00r00!

    On 06 Aug 2021, g00r00 said the following...
    So, just to confirm -- the .lnk, .scn and .xlr are Mystic's?

    Yes, those are Mystic specific. The JAM storage are the files that have an extension that ends with .jXX and anything else with the base
    filename would be Mystic specific.

    Speaking of message bases and paths -- is there anything "special" with System Paths --> Message Base Path vs the Path set for each message base?

    I have the Path set for each message base, and am thinking of moving them all "up" one step, from /mnt/bbs/mystic/msgs to /mnt/bbs/msgs. For each message base this would also include adjusting its Path accordingly, e.g. from /mnt/bbs/mystic/msgs/fidonet/ to /mnt/bbs/msgs/fidonet/.

    Would it be "bad" to do such a move for some reason that you can think of?

    My reasoning for moving them is that the message bases aren't necessarily tied entirely to Mystic (apropos GoldEd), so should live outside the /mnt/bbs/mystic directory hierarchy. Similar to the echomail inbound/outbound, the actual directories for file areas (their contents), etc.

    Any thoughts on this are much appreciated. :)

    Thanks in advance!

    Best regards
    Bj”rn
    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/08/05 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (2:201/137)
  • From g00r00@1:129/215 to Björn Wiberg on Sat Aug 7 10:36:48 2021
    Would it be "bad" to do such a move for some reason that you can think
    of?

    No you can set the path to whatever you want.

    The only thing to consider is that eventually I do want to get rid of the message base path for each specific message base, and just have the single message base path for all of the data files.

    The reason for that is to simplify things if you want to move them as you're wanting to do now.

    ... A .GIF is worth a thousand .TXT.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/07/31 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 * Mystic WHQ (1:129/215)
  • From Björn Wiberg@2:201/137 to g00r00 on Sun Aug 8 12:35:28 2021
    Hello g00r00!

    On 07 Aug 2021, g00r00 said the following...
    No you can set the path to whatever you want.

    OK! Thanks!

    The only thing to consider is that eventually I do want to get rid of
    the message base path for each specific message base, and just have the single message base path for all of the data files.

    OK! I'll keep the "Mystic-local" ones in one directory tree for now, and be prepared to move them alongside all the others (echomail areas).

    Best regards
    Bj”rn
    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/08/05 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (2:201/137)