• Real vs movie violence (was: Re: Game shows)

    From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to MIKE POWELL on Mon Dec 14 06:16:50 2020
    Mike wrote --

    Many of the cartoons contain "cartoon violence"

    Too many people don't seem to understand what that is.

    Of course, they don't die & there is (rarely) even any blood.

    The same was in movies of the era.
    The production code didn't allow for any blood when someone was shot.
    You could have someone in a white tuxedo be riddled with bullets in a gang war and no blood was to be seen.
    In the '60s when the code was relaxed or completely done away with,
    someone is shot with a .22 and blood is all over the place.
    From one extreme to the other.
    The code continued on in tv shows where someone is blown away and there's nothing. Maybe a little red dot, if that.
    While some complain about cartoon violence nothing, or very little, is
    said about the real aftermath of a violence act.

    Also, keeping in mind that the heyday of some of these old cartoons was overlapped by WWII, any stereotypes about the Axis countries (especially
    Japan) have to be removed so that no one gets their feelings hurt.

    The Germans are ragged on all the time (Nazi this, Nazi that) but Japan
    is given pretty much a free ride. They were as bad or worse than the Nazi's
    is many ways.
    In German schools kids are taught about that time. Japan? Its skimmed
    over.
    And the emperor never admitted Japan had lost, but merely "the war didn't
    go as we planned", or words to that effect.
    Joe
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JOE MACKEY on Mon Dec 14 16:21:00 2020
    The Germans are ragged on all the time (Nazi this, Nazi that) but Japan
    is given pretty much a free ride. They were as bad or worse than the Nazi's is many ways.

    Some of the Looney Tunes and Popeye cartoons from the time, in their
    original form, would sometimes make fun of them... at least, the way they looked by exaggerating their eyes and teeth. Germany got made fun of much more, granted, for being supposedly stupid.

    In German schools kids are taught about that time. Japan? Its skimmed over.
    And the emperor never admitted Japan had lost, but merely "the war didn't go as we planned", or words to that effect.

    Yep.

    Mike


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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to Mike Powell on Mon Dec 14 19:04:00 2020
    12-14-20 16:21 Mike Powell wrote to JOE MACKEY about Real vs movie violence (w Howdy! Mike,

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    The Germans are ragged on all the time (Nazi this, Nazi that) but Japan
    is given pretty much a free ride. They were as bad or worse than the
    Nazi's
    is many ways.

    Some of the Looney Tunes and Popeye cartoons from the time, in their original form, would sometimes make fun of them... at least, the way
    they looked by exaggerating their eyes and teeth. Germany got made fun
    of much more, granted, for being supposedly stupid.

    There were a bunch of "Stupid Polock" jokes during the 1970-80's.

    Ten or so years ago I learned that Polish people are not stupid.

    In WWII it was a few Polish fellows who cracked the CODE that the Germans
    used to send their Secret Messages.

    What they did sure helped the British and the USA to shorten the war.

    None of my distant relatives were Polish, so I'm not defending myself.

    I'm a mix of Scottish and Irish. (NOT whiskey)

    73 de Ed W9ODR . .


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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to ED VANCE on Tue Dec 15 05:57:36 2020
    Ed wrote --

    There were a bunch of "Stupid Polock" jokes during the 1970-80's.

    Ten or so years ago I learned that Polish people are not stupid.

    I think its human nature to talk about certain groups like that. Some
    folks use Polish, Poles maybe use Italians, Italians maybe the Greeks.
    The same in this country with one state talking about people in another state. Here its WV vs Ohio.
    I use old Polock jokes about folks in a nearby county.
    Two guys in Lincoln County were walking along the road and one says, "Oh look, a dead bird". The other guy looks up toward the sky asking "Where?"
    Two guys from Lincoln County were on a escalator at the mall when the
    power went out. They were stuck for two hours before they were rescued.
    You get it idea.
    Joe
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ED VANCE on Tue Dec 15 11:21:00 2020
    Some of the Looney Tunes and Popeye cartoons from the time, in their original form, would sometimes make fun of them... at least, the way they looked by exaggerating their eyes and teeth. Germany got made fun of much more, granted, for being supposedly stupid.

    There were a bunch of "Stupid Polock" jokes during the 1970-80's.

    By then, I think the Looney Tunes and Popeye were (mostly) no longer being produced. That said...

    Ten or so years ago I learned that Polish people are not stupid.

    ... I have some relatives-by-marriage that are of Polish dessent. I agree they are not stupid. Polock is actually not the correct word for someone Polish, either. They are usually called Poles. "Polock" is some made-up
    word that may or may not have been meant originally to mean a Pole.

    In WWII it was a few Polish fellows who cracked the CODE that the Germans used to send their Secret Messages.

    What they did sure helped the British and the USA to shorten the war.

    There were also some which were pilots in the war.

    None of my distant relatives were Polish, so I'm not defending myself.

    I'm a mix of Scottish and Irish. (NOT whiskey)

    I apparently have no East European blood, either. All mostly British
    Isles, German, and Scandi.

    Mike

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to JOE MACKEY on Wed Dec 16 17:23:00 2020
    12-15-20 05:57 JOE MACKEY wrote to ED VANCE about Real vs movie violence (w Howdy! Again Joe,

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    Ed wrote --

    There were a bunch of "Stupid Polock" jokes during the 1970-80's.

    Ten or so years ago I learned that Polish people are not stupid.

    I think its human nature to talk about certain groups like that.
    Some folks use Polish, Poles maybe use Italians, Italians maybe the Greeks.
    The same in this country with one state talking about people in
    another state. Here its WV vs Ohio.

    Around these parts its Kentucky vs Indiana.

    I use old Polock jokes about folks in a nearby county.
    Two guys in Lincoln County were walking along the road and one says,
    "Oh look, a dead bird". The other guy looks up toward the sky asking "Where?"
    Two guys from Lincoln County were on a escalator at the mall when the power went out. They were stuck for two hours before they were
    rescued.
    You get it idea.

    Cute.

    73 de Ed W9ODR . .


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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to Mike Powell on Wed Dec 16 17:32:00 2020
    12-15-20 11:21 Mike Powell wrote to ED VANCE about Real vs movie violence (w Howdy! Mike,
    ... I have some relatives-by-marriage that are of Polish dessent. I agree they are not stupid. Polock is actually not the correct word for someone Polish, either. They are usually called Poles. "Polock" is
    some made-up word that may or may not have been meant originally to
    mean a Pole.

    Thanks for Educating Ed.

    There were also some which were pilots in the war.

    Good.

    73 de Ed W9ODR . .


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Wed Dec 16 12:27:00 2020
    Joe,


    I think its human nature to talk about certain groups like that.
    Some folks use Polish, Poles maybe use Italians, Italians maybe the Greeks.

    In Arkansas, they would use the Aggie jokes, as a reference to Texas
    A&M in College Station. Truth be told, they do have an excellent school
    of meteorology, as does Florida State University in Tallahassee.

    Two guys in Lincoln County were walking along the road and one says,
    "Oh look, a dead bird". The other guy looks up toward the sky asking "Where?"

    He's about to fall on your head. :P

    Two guys from Lincoln County were on a escalator at the mall when the power went out. They were stuck for two hours before they were
    rescued.

    Now, they've turned these into blonde jokes. :P

    Daryl

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Fri Dec 18 07:15:54 2020
    Daryl wrote --

    Now, they've turned these into blonde jokes. :P

    Pollock jokes turned into blonde jokes. I turned blond jokes into
    Lincoln County jokes.
    Joe


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Sat Dec 19 12:05:00 2020
    Joe,

    Pollock jokes turned into blonde jokes. I turned blond jokes into Lincoln County jokes.

    Honest Abe would've been disappointed. :P

    Daryl

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to Daryl Stout on Wed Dec 23 12:46:00 2020
    12-19-20 12:05 Daryl Stout wrote to JOE MACKEY about Real vs movie violence (w Howdy! Daryl, Joe and All,

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    Joe,

    Pollock jokes turned into blonde jokes. I turned blond jokes into Lincoln County jokes.

    Honest Abe would've been disappointed. :P

    Abe Lincoln wasn't from Lincoln County, He was raised in Hodgenville, KY,
    I think that is in Hardin County, KY.

    Where is this Lincoln County that Joe speaks of?

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    arm pulling the plug out of the A.C. Socket at the end of the Show.

    73 de Ed W9ODR . .


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Ed Vance on Wed Dec 23 23:22:00 2020
    Ed,

    Abe Lincoln wasn't from Lincoln County, He was raised in Hodgenville,
    KY, I think that is in Hardin County, KY.

    Figure this one out...in Arkansas, Hot Springs is in Garland County, but
    Hot Spring County has the city of Malvern.

    We have cities in Arkansas that are elsewhere...such as El Paso, Houston,
    and Nashville.

    I have a deal on the BBS with 100 punny questions of Arkansas cities. You
    are given clues, and have to guess the city. Here are a few examples:

    1) A small stone - Little Rock
    2) An evergreen tree on a steep hillside - Pine Bluff
    3) A title of respect and the Mediterranean - Searcy
    4) A bunch of a trees and bigger than a town - Forrest City
    5) The Beatles took the last train to this place - Clarksville
    6) The path of a crook - Conway
    7) It's not cold and it jumps - Hot Springs
    8) What a boy shoots in his gun - Beebe
    9) A boy's name and 2000 pounds - Benton
    10) Kiss Again - Smackover (my favorite) <G>

    That Tagline made me think if it was the TV Show "Computer Chronicles"
    or another TV Show I saw long ago that ended with a computer controlled arm pulling the plug out of the A.C. Socket at the end of the Show.

    That'll do it.

    Daryl

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ED VANCE on Sat Dec 26 16:33:00 2020
    Abe Lincoln wasn't from Lincoln County, He was raised in Hodgenville, KY,
    I think that is in Hardin County, KY.

    It is in LaRue County, KY.

    The original first three counties of Kentucky were Fayette (most of Eastern
    KY -- named after the Marquis de LaFayette), Jefferson (most of North Central KY -- named after Thomas Jefferson) and Lincoln (the rest of the state --
    named after one of Lincoln's ancestors). All current Kentucky counties,
    except those in the Purchase Area West of Land Between the Lakes, were originally part of one of those three counties. At that time, the Purchase Area was not yet part of the Kentucky Territory.

    I am not 100% certain which counties were carved out of which, but I do
    know where those original three shared a boundary. If you look at a map of Franklin County, and find the place where Benson Creek empties into the Kentucky River, that is the point where the three counties came together.

    Everything East (and North) of the Kentucky River was Fayette County. Everything West of the Kentucky River, and North of Benson Creek, was Jefferson.
    Everything West of the Kentucky River, and South of Benson Creek, was
    Lincoln.

    Once you follow Benson Creek West, and get beyond its headwaters, I am not
    sure where the boundary between Jefferson and Lincoln counties was. Also, further East, I am not certain which Kentucky River tributary was used as
    the Fayette/Lincoln counties line.

    So, today's LaRue County may have once been a part of Lincoln County, or it
    may have once been a part of Jefferson, or it may have been carved between both. :)

    Mike

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