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  • slackware is behind gentoo now on kernels :)

    From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to All on Sun Feb 16 01:56:08 2020
    Hello All!

    just funny


    Regards Benny

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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Benny Pedersen on Sun Feb 16 09:45:00 2020
    Benny Pedersen wrote to All <=-

    Hello All!

    just funny

    What does that even mean? "Behind now on kernels"?



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  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Dan Clough on Sun Feb 16 19:30:00 2020
    Good ${greeting_time}, Dan!

    16 Feb 2020 09:45:00, you wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    just funny
    What does that even mean? "Behind now on kernels"?

    Most likely that means just "Gentoo already does have the actual 5.5.4 kernel, while Slackware does not (yet)".

    I don't really care: once `git fetch` would get a new stable tag, I'd have the fresh x86_64 kernel in 15 minutes, and arm64 in a hour. The check is performed twice in a hour.


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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Alexey Vissarionov on Sun Feb 16 14:07:00 2020
    Alexey Vissarionov wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    just funny

    What does that even mean? "Behind now on kernels"?

    Most likely that means just "Gentoo already does have the actual
    5.5.4 kernel, while Slackware does not (yet)".

    Ahhh, OK. Didn't realize it was a race.

    I don't really care: once `git fetch` would get a new stable tag,
    I'd have the fresh x86_64 kernel in 15 minutes, and arm64 in a
    hour. The check is performed twice in a hour.

    I used to worry about always having the latest kernel, but I
    certainly don't anymore. Running Slackware64 14.2, fully updated
    except for the kernel. Constantly updating that breaks too many
    things that I don't want to bother fixing.



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  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Dan Clough on Mon Feb 17 01:19:04 2020
    Hello Dan!

    16 Feb 2020 09:45, Dan Clough wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    What does that even mean?

    even is equal

    "Behind now on kernels"?

    stay away from opensource, fun asside, i like to know if 5.5.x is unstable since slackware does currently only have 5.4.20 last time i updated it


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/5.5.4-gentoo-x86_64 (x86_64))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Benny Pedersen on Mon Feb 17 06:07:59 2020
    Hallo Benny!

    stay away from opensource

    Yeah right. Tell that to Bill. ;-)

    i like to know if 5.5.x is unstable since slackware does currently
    only have 5.4.20 last time i updated it

    I just checked the current source and it is 5.4.20 as we speak. Also glibc-2.30 and gcc-9.2.0 while we're at it. As for stability 5.5.4 seems to be fine ... so far but I've only got it running on one system thus far. I was going to wait for 5.5.5 before upgrading the other two systems, one of which I am typing this message on via a ssh login. I know how to have fun.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

    ... Huil niet om mij, ik heb vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.11(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Maurice Kinal on Fri Feb 28 02:19:46 2020
    Hello Maurice!

    17 Feb 2020 06:07, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    stay away from opensource
    Yeah right. Tell that to Bill. ;-)

    i would love to see opensource of basic 7.0 in commodore 128, commodore imho killed developments by choising microsoft as software to this computer, there was never ever build updates to this rommed software

    crime ?

    i like to know if 5.5.x is unstable since slackware does currently
    only have 5.4.20 last time i updated it

    I just checked the current source and it is 5.4.20 as we speak. Also glibc-2.30 and gcc-9.2.0 while we're at it.

    gentoo have now gcc 10.x masked on its way so

    As for stability 5.5.4
    seems to be fine ... so far but I've only got it running on one system thus far. I was going to wait for 5.5.5 before upgrading the other
    two systems, one of which I am typing this message on via a ssh login.
    I know how to have fun.

    you need to update now :)


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/5.5.6-gentoo-x86_64 (x86_64))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Benny Pedersen on Fri Feb 28 03:06:38 2020
    Hallo Benny!

    i would love to see opensource of basic 7.0 in commodore 128

    Is there much demand for it?

    gentoo have now gcc 10.x masked on its way so

    I was figuring around the end of March or so. I see the gcc-8 branch is frozen for a release.

    you need to update now :)

    Not yet. Turns out that at least one of my machines has a major issue with 5.5.5. Too bad as I thought that version would look good in a default setup here. I am not unhappy where this sits today.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

    ... Huil niet om mij, ik heb vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.11(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Maurice Kinal on Sun Mar 1 09:52:58 2020
    Hello Maurice!

    28 Feb 2020 03:06, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    i would love to see opensource of basic 7.0 in commodore 128
    Is there much demand for it?

    ignorant

    gentoo have now gcc 10.x masked on its way so
    I was figuring around the end of March or so. I see the gcc-8 branch
    is frozen for a release.

    and gcc 9 is stable on gentoo

    you need to update now :)
    Not yet. Turns out that at least one of my machines has a major issue with 5.5.5. Too bad as I thought that version would look good in a default setup here. I am not unhappy where this sits today.

    if there is new kernel you will have to upgrade to it to see if problem is solved, else you will have to wait with bugreports :)


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/5.5.6-gentoo-x86_64 (x86_64))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Benny Pedersen on Sun Mar 1 16:58:31 2020
    Hallo Benny!

    and gcc 9 is stable on gentoo

    Should be 9.3.0 in a couple of weeks. I just saw the announcement the other day.

    if there is new kernel you will have to upgrade to it to see if
    problem is solved

    That can and does happen. So far the winner is 5.4.22 although the EuroPoint is currently booting;

    -={ "<Esc>:read !cat /proc/version" starts }=-
    Linux version 5.5.5 (root@heatsink) (gcc version 9.2.0 (GCC)) #1 SMP Thu Feb 20 22:45:15 UTC 2020
    -={ "<Esc>:read !cat /proc/version" ends }=-

    I plan to bring that back into sync with the others sometime later today.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

    ... Huil niet om mij, ik heb vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.11(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Maurice Kinal on Sat Mar 14 15:05:10 2020
    Hello Maurice!

    01 Mar 2020 16:58, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    Linux version 5.5.5 (root@heatsink) (gcc version 9.2.0 (GCC)) #1 SMP
    Thu Feb 20 22:45:15 UTC 2020

    +1

    I plan to bring that back into sync with the others sometime later
    today.

    upgraded :)


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/5.5.9-gentoo-x86_64 (x86_64))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Benny Pedersen on Sat Mar 14 17:14:41 2020
    Hallo Benny!

    upgraded :)

    Same here except only one machine at this moment. The other two I plan to bring up to date sometime within the next week. Still no penguins on two of the machines although the framebuffer consoles are as good as ever.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

    ... Huil niet om mij, ik heb vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.16(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Maurice Kinal on Sat Mar 14 18:41:28 2020
    Hello Maurice!

    14 Mar 2020 17:14, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    Same here except only one machine at this moment. The other two I
    plan to bring up to date sometime within the next week. Still no penguins on two of the machines although the framebuffer consoles are
    as good as ever.

    had a very funny problem today, postfixadmin would not work with latest chrome browser, thinked it could be my php version of php that failed, but when i have downgraded to oldest php and it still was there as a problem with logins, i begin to see if microsoft edge have same problem, and it have not, hmm :)

    question is then is it a bug now in chromebrowser with csrc login fails or not, what if its a security problem on microsft edge that allows me to login only there, yes i have now report it to gentoo devs and postfixadmin maintiner both on irc and github trackers

    all well else for now, but will upgrade php to latest stable tomorrow again


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/5.5.9-gentoo-x86_64 (x86_64))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Benny Pedersen on Sat Mar 14 21:09:37 2020
    Hallo Benny!

    had a very funny problem today, postfixadmin would not work with
    latest chrome browser

    I've noticed issues with firefox and streaming but it seems to have resolved itself after upgrading to firefox-68.6.0. I think it was a drm issue since it had no issues with the standard streaming services, only the ones that expect the user to respect their crappy exploitatiom of gullible users. Anyhow I'd be more suspicious about the drm crap especially anything to do with google, such as the chrome browser. Myself I think drm should die a horrible, miserable death.

    what if its a security problem on microsft edge that allows me to
    login only there

    It wouldn't surprise me. I trust microsoft exactly as much as anything to do with google such as chrome. I say ditch them both.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

    ... Huil niet om mij, ik heb vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.16(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113)