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    From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.2989 to Tim Taylor on Sat Aug 20 18:22:05 2022
    Hey Tim!

    $ cat /proc/version
    Linux version 5.19.2 (root@motorshed) (gcc (GCC) 12.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.39) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Fri Aug 19 21:19:52 UTC 2022

    Need I say more?

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Fidonet 4K - Sweet Sixteen Penguins of the Apocalypse.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.16(1)-release (x86_64-znver2-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: One of us @ (1:153/7001.2989)
  • From Karel Kral@2:423/39 to Maurice Kinal on Sun Aug 21 12:55:03 2022
    Hello Maurice!

    20 Aug 22 18:22, you wrote to Tim Taylor:

    $ cat /proc/version
    Linux version 5.19.2 (root@motorshed) (gcc (GCC) 12.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.39) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Fri Aug 19 21:19:52 UTC 2022

    Linux version 3.14.4.1-bone-armhf.com (buildd@build7) (gcc version 4.8.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.8.2-19ubuntu1) ) #1 SMP Tue Jun 3 12:37:22 UTC 2014

    What I won?

    (I think this is the oldest kernel in my home, beaglebone operating some home devices... ;-)

    Karel

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Plast DATA (2:423/39)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.2989 to Karel Kral on Sun Aug 21 15:36:20 2022
    Hey Karel!

    Linux version 3.14.4.1-bone-armhf.com (buildd@build7)

    It has been awhile so I don't recall exactly why there are currently no kv3.x machines currently operating in this particular location. kv4.4 is where I set the minimum supported kernel version for glibc as shown by;

    $ /lib/libc.so.6 | grep Minimum
    Minimum supported kernel: 4.4.0

    (gcc version 4.8.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.8.2-19ubuntu1) )

    I think that might have been the first version of gcc that required g++. Either that or it's the last version that DIDN'T require g++. If so then those were the days. I'll have to check sometime but I more than likely have it recorded somewhere. Also I have a few 2.5" 44-pin drives that just might have a version of gcc only custum build. I have an original 44-pin 2.5" SSD (they didn't call them that back then) manufactured by M-Systems which sold out to SanDisk. It is a 1G drive that cost way too much. I bet it still works but I haven't tried it in around a decade or more.

    What I won?

    Pride and self respect.

    beaglebone operating some home devices

    I considered a beaglebone back then but I don't recall exactly why I never bothered. I've currently have two x86_64's acting as wireless hosts that could easily be done by a beaglebone. Are they still making them? It would require a mini-pci(e) interface for wireless card. Also only needs 2.4GHz as they get the distance required with the antennas I am deploying.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Fidonet 4K - Sweet Sixteen Penguins of the Apocalypse.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.16(1)-release (x86_64-znver2-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: One of us @ (1:153/7001.2989)
  • From Karel Kral@2:423/39 to Maurice Kinal on Sun Aug 21 19:55:47 2022
    Hello Maurice!

    21 Aug 22 15:36, you wrote to me:

    I considered a beaglebone back then but I don't recall exactly why I
    never bothered. I've currently have two x86_64's acting as wireless
    hosts that could easily be done by a beaglebone. Are they still
    making them? It would require a mini-pci(e) interface for wireless

    I think yes. I used to like them more than RaspB - a) no (useless) HDMI and b) you could switch off power on USB [I mean hard reset for some USB devices needed total power off and on].

    This Ubuntu LTS was unbeatable that time.

    Karel

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Plast DATA (2:423/39)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.2989 to Karel Kral on Sun Aug 21 18:10:27 2022
    Hey Karel!

    I think yes. I used to like them more than RaspB

    I don't care much for raspi's. They all lack a decent wireless connection and usb is too flakey to be counted on. I am not sure if manufacturers understand the universal part of USB.

    This Ubuntu LTS was unbeatable that time.

    Hm. Depending on what we're talking about, I believe I was and still can do better. However I haven't seen any arm based systems of interest to me which probably explains why I am using x86_64's. They have much better expansion possibilities albiet are more costly than a typical arm64 as well as a much greater power consumption for the x86_64s. For me - actually mostly for the neighbours - it is the wireless connectivity that determined the desirable hardware to make it work and that definetly costs both for hardware as well as power consumption.

    It is a case of you get what you pay for.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Fidonet 4K - Sweet Sixteen Penguins of the Apocalypse.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.16(1)-release (x86_64-znver2-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: One of us @ (1:153/7001.2989)