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    From Vince Coen@2:250/1 to All on Tue Jan 29 15:09:23 2019
    Hello All!

    I am considering getting one or more phones for voip and if successful kill off the land
    line.

    Currently and because of where the land line connect is I use a set of four mobile phones
    linked to the one base station.

    Can I do the same for voip phones and the next uestion is what do I need to connect the
    facility up as I do not recall my router having a setting for VOIP but there again have not
    gone looking that closely.

    This is for use in the UK and my ISP is Plusnet.


    Thanks for any help,

    Vince

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to VINCE COEN on Tue Jan 29 20:09:00 2019
    Currently and because of where the land line connect is I use a set of four mobile phones
    linked to the one base station.

    Can I do the same for voip phones and the next uestion is what do I need to connect the
    facility up as I do not recall my router having a setting for VOIP but there again have not
    gone looking that closely.

    Well, here in the US, most of the VOIP services I am aware of either give
    you a box or some sort of dongle. Either includes a network cable
    interface, which you run cable from to your router or hub, and a phone line interface.

    In my case, and also at my father's, we are able to then connect a phone
    line to that interface, and plug that line into a jack. You disconnect any phone connection to the outside world (here, we open the phone box on the outside of the house and disconnect the jack that leads to the outside
    lines or, on older boxes, disconnect the wires with a screw driver) so that
    you don't mess anything up.

    Once you disconnect the outside lines, and connect the jack from the VOIP box to the jack in the wall, you can use any phone jack in the house to plug in
    a phone and have it run over the VOIP.

    In Britain, there may be some regulation or access issues when it comes to disconnecting from the outside line, so you best check into that before
    trying anything.

    Otherwise, you can connect the base unit for a portable phone directly to the VOIP box/dongle.

    Mike

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Vince Coen on Tue Jan 29 23:05:53 2019
    Hallo Vince!

    I am considering getting one or more phones for voip and if
    successful kill off the land line.

    Check out https://www.linphone.org as they are not only opensource but have runtimes available for mobile, tablet and desktop. Also ports for OS/2, Windows and Linux, although the Linux port is probably native and not really a port. ;-)

    My best guess is that it is probably the best thing going in VoiP land. Your milage may vary.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

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  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Vince Coen on Wed Jan 30 16:06:00 2019
    Good ${greeting_time}, Vince!

    29 Jan 2019 15:09:22, you wrote to All:

    I am considering getting one or more phones for voip and if
    successful kill off the land line.

    Start with setting up the server with Asterisk (https://www.asterisk.org). Personally I prefer setting up the full-featured domestic server to be the gateway and storage, and use it for anything else as well.

    Currently and because of where the land line connect is I use a set
    of four mobile phones linked to the one base station.

    I guess these phones are not mobile (like GSM or CDMA), but just portable (connected to their own base station, most likely DECT).

    Can I do the same for voip phones

    Yes. The easiest way is to use Android (it is Android/Linux, of course!) smartphones with some SIP client like com.csipsimple or com.zoiper.android.app or org.sipdroid.sipua (look for them at google play or apkpure.com) or whatever you'd like most.

    Also, there are SIP adapters for land lines and mobile phone connections: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/GoIP-SIP-GSM-Gateway/368322989.html - 43.22 GBP (49.48 EUR) for a small device with SIM card slot and ethernet connector (good for setting up additional "lines" for incoming calls). Just connect it to your Asterisk server.

    and the next uestion is what do I need to connect the facility up as
    I do not recall my router having a setting for VOIP but there again
    have not gone looking that closely.

    In order for Asterisk server to work properly, there _must_ _not_ (as in RFC-2119 and FTA-1006) be any router except the server itself. Any other configuration (although possible) is not what you'd like to face when configuring the service for a first time.

    This is for use in the UK and my ISP is Plusnet.

    Do you have "real" (routeable) IPv4 address?


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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Vince Coen on Wed Jan 30 09:24:00 2019
    In a message on 01-29-19 Vince Coen said to All:

    Good morning Vince,

    I am considering getting one or more phones for voip and if
    successful kill off the land line.

    Just a word of warning. When my first HUB's sysop passed away. I had to
    find a new.

    I chose and was accepted by the HOST. He did however use VOIP for data
    calls and it gave me a transfer rate of only 9600 bps and that seemed
    a bit slow fo me with a 56 kbs modem.

    So I changed to another HUB and since then I get regularly 31200 bps
    transfers over the copper net.


    Have a nice day,

    Holger


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  • From Vince Coen@2:250/1 to Holger Granholm on Fri Feb 1 22:11:42 2019
    Hello Holger!

    Wednesday January 30 2019 09:24, you wrote to me:

    In a message on 01-29-19 Vince Coen said to All:

    Good morning Vince,

    I am considering getting one or more phones for voip and if
    successful kill off the land line.

    Just a word of warning. When my first HUB's sysop passed away. I had
    to find a new.

    I chose and was accepted by the HOST. He did however use VOIP for data
    calls and it gave me a transfer rate of only 9600 bps and that seemed
    a bit slow fo me with a 56 kbs modem.

    So I changed to another HUB and since then I get regularly 31200 bps transfers over the copper net.


    Thanks for that info and the same for every one else who has responded.


    After a (little) research it seems it is NOT a cheap option and in any event my ISP does not offer any
    support - well it will cost them revenue.

    So it is looking like a good idea but involves a lot of outlay without saving money unless you are a
    large business - and I am not just retired trying to same it (money that is).


    So no changes in more or less 20 years, when I was using ISDN/2.



    Vince

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