Hello Tommi!

01 Aug 19 09:40, you wrote to me:

P.S I found how to quote with Sylpheed! WoW :P

Oh yes, no overquoting. ;)

:D

Ok, now a strange issue, with all the "good" readers (Sylpheed and PAN) when I answer to a post in this group I get the TO: field empty.

Now I posted in a R33 test area a message with golded and answered with pan, no problem and the TO: field is correctly filled.

I don't know why. :(

When you answer to a post here with Sylpheed do you put the TO: field in the first row of the message or all goes right simply answering?

Thank you.

Ciao!
Fabio

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From Fabio Bizzi To Tommi Koivula

Hello Tommi!
01 Aug 19 09:40, you wrote to me:

P.S I found how to quote with Sylpheed! WoW :P

Oh yes, no overquoting. ;)

:D
Ok, now a strange issue, with all the "good" readers (Sylpheed and PAN)
when I answer to a post in this group I get the TO: field empty.
Now I posted in a R33 test area a message with golded and answered with
pan, no problem and the TO: field is correctly filled.
I don't know why. :(
When you answer to a post here with Sylpheed do you put the TO: field in
the first row of the message or all goes right simply answering?

I was wondering that also.. Because I have no problems answering.

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Tommi

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Il Thu, 01 Aug 2019 15:32:18 +0300, Tommi Koivula -> Fabio Bizzi ha
scritto:

I was wondering that also.. Because I have no problems answering.

Ok this is an answer with PAN from another computer, let's see if the to
field is ok or not. :)

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Hello Tommi!

01 Aug 19 17:32, you wrote to me:

I was wondering that also.. Because I have no problems answering.

In fidotest there is an answered message from me to Dan Clough with PAN and there the to field is ok! :/

The problem is in THIS echo! :(

Ciao!
Fabio

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Hello, Fabio Bizzi : Tommi Koivula.
On 01/08/2019 17.58 you wrote:

Hello Tommi!
01 Aug 19 17:32, you wrote to me:

I was wondering that also.. Because I have no problems answering.

In fidotest there is an answered message from me to Dan Clough with PAN and there the to field is ok! :/
The problem is in THIS echo! :(

Hmm, strange indeed... how about your msgbase format? Any difference?

You could also visit https://news.fidonet.fi and test my servers with your clients.

Ciao!
Fabio

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Tommi

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Hello, Fabio Bizzi -> (none).
On 01/08/2019 14.55 you wrote:

From Fabio Bizzi To

Il Thu, 01 Aug 2019 15:32:18 +0300, Tommi Koivula -> Fabio Bizzi ha
scritto:

I was wondering that also.. Because I have no problems answering.

Ok this is an answer with PAN from another computer, let's see if the to field is ok or not. :)
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No luck. :(


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Tommi

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Hello Tommi!

01 Aug 19 19:56, you wrote to me:

In fidotest there is an answered message from me to Dan Clough
with PAN and there the to field is ok! :/ The problem is in THIS
echo! :(

Hmm, strange indeed... how about your msgbase format? Any difference?

This is the "Working" area:

EchoArea fidotest /home/husky/msgBase/fidotest -d "Fidonet TEST echo and malfunction Conference" -a 2:335/364 -g ECHO-INT -b Jam -tooOld 180 -dupeCheck del -dupehistory 180 2:240/1120 -def 2:333/808 2:335/206

This is this area:

EchoArea jamnntpd /home/husky/msgBase/jamnntpd -d "JAMNNTPD conference" -a 2:335/364 -g ECHO-INT -b Jam -tooOld 180 -dupeCheck del -dupeHistory 11 2:240/1120 -def 2:335/364.1 2:335/364.3

You could also visit https://news.fidonet.fi and test my servers with
your clients.

I'll try, many thanks, May I ask you to post a message in fidotest echo through your smapinntpd server in the same way you post in this echo? I'd like to replay in that echo to see if it's an echo problem or something else (as I suspect).

Many thanks! :)

Ciao!
Fabio

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From Fabio Bizzi To Tommi Koivula

Hello Tommi!
01 Aug 19 19:56, you wrote to me:

In fidotest there is an answered message from me to Dan Clough
with PAN and there the to field is ok! :/ The problem is in THIS
echo! :(

Hmm, strange indeed... how about your msgbase format? Any difference?

This is the "Working" area:
EchoArea fidotest /home/husky/msgBase/fidotest -d "Fidonet TEST echo and malfunction Conference" -a 2:335/364 -g ECHO-INT -b Jam -tooOld 180 -dupeCheck del -dupehistory 180 2:240/1120 -def 2:333/808 2:335/206
This is this area:
EchoArea jamnntpd /home/husky/msgBase/jamnntpd -d "JAMNNTPD conference"
-a 2:335/364 -g ECHO-INT -b Jam -tooOld 180 -dupeCheck del -dupeHistory
11 2:240/1120 -def 2:335/364.1 2:335/364.3

So nothing special here... how about your smapinntpd.groups?

Many thanks! :)
Ciao!
Fabio

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Tommi

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Hello Tommi!

02 Aug 19 10:17, you wrote to me:

So nothing special here... how about your smapinntpd.groups?

The working one:
fidotest N 2:335/364 /home/husky/msgBase/fidotest

The evil echo. :P
jamnntpd N 2:335/364 /home/husky/msgBase/jamnntpd

It should be something subtle. :(

Ciao!
Fabio

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Il Fri, 02 Aug 2019 08:17:22 +0300, Tommi Koivula -> Fabio Bizzi ha
scritto:

So nothing special here... how about your smapinntpd.groups?

Posted from the same "PAN" same PC, same all of the reply in the fidotest. Let's see if the TO field here works as in fidotest. :)

Ciao.
Fabio.

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Hello Tommi!

02 Aug 19 11:29, I wrote to :

Posted from the same "PAN" same PC, same all of the reply in the
fidotest. Let's see if the TO field here works as in fidotest. :)

Ok, I noticed that another difference is that smapinttpd in the replies in thie echo doesn't put the initials in the quoted rows.

So Is it possibile that someone in the middle between me and you is altering in some way the messages in JAMNNTPD ECHO so smapinntpd can't correctly reply these messages?

Ciao!
Fabio

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Hi Fabio.

02 Aug 19 11:29, you wrote to :

@MSGID: 2:335/364 5d44025c
@REPLYADDR mimac@bizzi.org
@PID: SmapiNNTPd/Linux 1.1
@CHRS: UTF-8 2
@TZUTC: 0200
@TID: hpt/lnx 1.9.0-cur 2019-01-08
Il Fri, 02 Aug 2019 08:17:22 +0300, Tommi Koivula -> Fabio Bizzi ha scritto:

So nothing special here... how about your smapinntpd.groups?

Posted from the same "PAN" same PC, same all of the reply in the

fidotest.

Let's see if the TO field here works as in fidotest. :)

No. :(

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SEEN-BY: 154/10 203/0 221/1 6 360 240/1120 280/464 5003 5006 5555 335/364 @PATH: 335/364 240/1120 280/5003 221/1 6

'Tommi

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Hi Fabio.

02 Aug 19 11:32, you wrote to me:

Ok, I noticed that another difference is that smapinttpd in the replies

in thie

echo doesn't put the initials in the quoted rows.

You could try to set noreplyaddr on and smartquote off, but it doesn't explain the different behaviour between echoes.

So Is it possibile that someone in the middle between me and you is altering in some way the messages in JAMNNTPD ECHO so smapinntpd can't correctly reply these messages?

I seriously doubt that.

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'Tommi

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Hello Tommi!

02 Aug 19 14:09, you wrote to me:

So Is it possibile that someone in the middle between me and you
is altering in some way the messages in JAMNNTPD ECHO so
smapinntpd can't correctly reply these messages?

I seriously doubt that.

These are the paths of two messages originated by you, one in FIDOTEST and another in JAMNNTPD:

Path in FIDOTEST:
SEEN+BY: 203/0 221/0 1 6 360 240/1120 1634 8002 261/38 280/464 5003 5555 SEEN+BY: 313/41 335/364 2452/250
@PATH: 221/6 1 240/1120

Path in JAMNNTPD:
SEEN+BY: 203/0 221/0 1 6 360 240/1120 280/464 5003 5006 5555 335/364
@PATH: 221/6 1 280/5003 240/1120

In JAMNNTPD Kees is in the meddle.

Now I should take a deep look at the messages in both areas. :)

Ciao!
Fabio

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Il Thu, 01 Aug 2019 19:56:54 +0300, Tommi Koivula : Fabio Bizzi ha
scritto:

You could also visit https://news.fidonet.fi and test my servers with
your clients.

Ok, this message is from my PAN connected to your server, let's see if
the answer is with the correct TO... :)

Thanks a lot! :)

Ciao.
Fabio.

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Hi! Fabio,

On 02 Aug 19 17:26, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

@MSGID: 2:221/360 5d44482a
@REPLY: 2:221/360 5d4319d2
@PID: JamNNTPd/OS2 1.3 20190208
@TID: GE/2 1.2
@CHRS: UTF-8 2
@TZUTC: 0300
Il Thu, 01 Aug 2019 19:56:54 +0300, Tommi Koivula : Fabio Bizzi ha scritto:

You could also visit https://news.fidonet.fi and test my servers
with your clients.

Ok, this message is from my PAN connected to your server, let's see if
the answer is with the correct TO... :)

Thanks a lot! :)

Ciao.
Fabio.

--- Pan/0.144 (Time is the enemy; 28ab3ba git.gnome.org/pan2)
* Origin: - nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland - (2:221/360) SEEN-BY: 19/10 203/0 221/0 1 6 360 280/464 5003 5555 320/219 640/305 SEEN-BY: 640/1321 1384 3634/12
@PATH: 221/360 1 640/1384

Nothing (exceptional) to see here. It just work-ed/s well, and as expected.

Cheers,
Paul.

... To the crew of the Aurora ... t'link, t'link!
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Hello, Fabio Bizzi : Tommi Koivula.
On 02/08/2019 17.26 you wrote:

Il Thu, 01 Aug 2019 19:56:54 +0300, Tommi Koivula : Fabio Bizzi ha scritto:

You could also visit https://news.fidonet.fi and test my servers with
your clients.

Ok, this message is from my PAN connected to your server, let's see if
the answer is with the correct TO... :)
Thanks a lot! :)
Ciao.
Fabio.
--- Pan/0.144 (Time is the enemy; 28ab3ba git.gnome.org/pan2)
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Seems ok at jamnntpd. You may test my smapinntpd at news.fidonet.fi again, but I expect the same result there.

There is something weird in your setup...



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Tommi

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Hello, Tommi Koivula.
On 04/08/19 19:38 you wrote:

Seems ok at jamnntpd. You may test my smapinntpd at
news.fidonet.fi again, but I expect the same result there. There
is something weird in your setup...

Tomorrow I'll send you my config for a 4 eyes check but I think it's ok.

I suspect something in the middle, all my international areas are fed by Uli, the only one that Uli gets from Kees is jamnntpd and it's a pass-through area for him and I have troubles only with jamnntpd echo.

I have to dig in. ;)

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Ciao! :)
Fabio.
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Hi Fabio.

04 Aug 19 19:36, you wrote to me:

Hello, Tommi Koivula.
On 04/08/19 19:38 you wrote:

Seems ok at jamnntpd. You may test my smapinntpd at
news.fidonet.fi again, but I expect the same result there. There
is something weird in your setup...

Tomorrow I'll send you my config for a 4 eyes check but I think it's
ok.

I checked your configs, only one thing: The msgbase type should be defined just before path, but maybe smapinntpd has jam default if type is not defined.

jamnntpd N 2:335/364 /home/husky/msgBase/jamnntpd

should be

jamnntpd N 2:335/364 !/home/husky/msgBase/jamnntpd

'Tommi

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I checked your configs, only one thing: The msgbase type should be
defined just before path, but maybe smapinntpd has jam default if type
is not defined.

Yes, that seems to be the case. I removed the "!" from one jam area and everything still works. :)

'Tommi

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Il Wed, 07 Aug 2019 16:58:22 +0300, Tommi Koivula -> Fabio Bizzi ha
scritto:

Yes, that seems to be the case. I removed the "!" from one jam area and everything still works. :)

Yes it's in the docs, if no type is specified the default type is JAM. :)

Ok, this answer is from my PAN, on my smapinntpd server on my JAM base
with my hpt on a message received directly from you, this is the path of
the received message:


"SEEN-BY: 221/0 6 360 280/5555 335/364"
"@PATH: 221/6"

So no-one in the middle. :)

Let's see if the problem is the one that i suspected.

Many thanks for the help and the patience. ;)

Ciao.
Fabio.

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Hello Tommi!

08 Aug 19 08:59, I wrote to :

Let's see if the problem is the one that i suspected.

NO LUCK! :(
Now I'm lost! :(

Ciao!
Fabio

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
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On 08.08.2019 9:59, Fabio Bizzi : (none)

:( :(

Yes, that seems to be the case. I removed the "!" from one jam
area and everything still works. :)

Yes it's in the docs, if no type is specified the default type is JAM. :)

It is nice to know that someone reads the docs. :)

'Tommi

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Hi! Fabio,

On 08/08/2019 05:00 PM, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

Let's see if the problem is the one that i suspected.

NO LUCK! :(
Now I'm lost! :(

Do you use the "areasbbs2jamnntpd.pl" tool to create the areas in your groups file? Or, do you create your own errors? :) Can HPT output an areas.bbs file that you could use the tool with?

Cheers,
Paul.

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Hello Paul!

08 Aug 19 17:42, you wrote to me:

NO LUCK! :(
Now I'm lost! :(

Do you use the "areasbbs2jamnntpd.pl" tool to create the areas in your groups file? Or, do you create your own errors? :) Can HPT output
an areas.bbs file that you could use the tool with?

I used fidoconfig2jamnntpd.pl provided by jamnntpd packages to build the smapinntpd.groups.

Yes HPT can create areas.bbs but the output of fidoconfig2jamnntpd.pl is fine and I have troubles only in this echo, in other echoes like fidotest all works fine. :(

Ciao!
Fabio

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Hi! Fabio,

On 08 Aug 19 10:22, you wrote to me:

Yes HPT can create areas.bbs but the output of fidoconfig2jamnntpd.pl
is fine and I have troubles only in this echo, in other echoes like fidotest all works fine. :(

If I was in the driver's seat I'd re-create the JAM area. You know you can do it with GoldEd and a temporary (copy to/from) area...

Cheers,
Paul.

... ///\oo/\\\ There are no more bugs. ///\oo/\\\ ///\oo/\\\
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130515
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Il Wed, 07 Aug 2019 16:58:22 +0300, Tommi Koivula -> Fabio Bizzi ha
scritto:

I checked your configs, only one thing: The msgbase type should be
defined just before path, but maybe smapinntpd has jam default if type
is not defined.

Yes, that seems to be the case. I removed the "!" from one jam area and everything still works. :)

'Tommi

--- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0
* Origin: smapinntpd/linux @ nntps://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/6.0)

TEST

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Il Thu, 08 Aug 2019 18:31:14 +1000, Paul Quinn -> Fabio Bizzi ha scritto:

Hi! Fabio,

If I was in the driver's seat I'd re-create the JAM area. You know you
can do it with GoldEd and a temporary (copy to/from) area...

You're the pilot! :)
Did it, let's see if something has changed...

Thanks!

--- Pan/0.144 (Time is the enemy; 28ab3ba git.gnome.org/pan2)
* Origin: ]\/[imac Rebirth smapinntpd access nntp://mimac.bizzi.org

Hello Paul!

08 Aug 19 14:10, I wrote to :

Il Thu, 08 Aug 2019 18:31:14 +1000, Paul Quinn -> Fabio Bizzi ha
scritto:

Hi! Fabio,

If I was in the driver's seat I'd re-create the JAM area. You know
you can do it with GoldEd and a temporary (copy to/from) area...

You're the pilot! :)
Did it, let's see if something has changed...

Do you have a kind of native Australian sorcerer or shaman handy? :D

Ciao!
Fabio

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: ]\/[imac Rebirth Boss Point (2:335/364.1)

On Thu, 08 Aug 2019 11:10:40 +0200, Fabio Bizzi -> (none) wrote:

From Fabio Bizzi To

Il Thu, 08 Aug 2019 18:31:14 +1000, Paul Quinn -> Fabio Bizzi ha
scritto:

> Hi! Fabio,

> If I was in the driver's seat I'd re-create the JAM area. You know
> you can do it with GoldEd and a temporary (copy to/from) area...

You're the pilot! :)
Did it, let's see if something has changed...

Thanks!

--- Pan/0.144 (Time is the enemy; 28ab3ba git.gnome.org/pan2)
* Origin: ]\/[imac Rebirth smapinntpd access nntp://mimac.bizzi.org (2:335/364)

Testing PAN.

--- Pan/0.144 (Time is the enemy; 28ab3ba git.gnome.org/pan2)
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Hi! Fabio,

On 08/08/2019 10:30 PM, you wrote:

Do you have a kind of native Australian sorcerer or shaman handy? :D

None that any civilized persons would want to know. No longer really used these days, the Kadaitcha Man was pure evil.

Cheers,
Paul.

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Il Fri, 09 Aug 2019 05:15:52 +1000, Paul Quinn -> Fabio Bizzi ha scritto:

Do you have a kind of native Australian sorcerer or shaman handy?

:D

None that any civilized persons would want to know. No longer really
used these days, the Kadaitcha Man was pure evil.

Let the evil help me! :)

Ok, I checked your message on my re-created base, these are the headers:

00002 [ 10]: "Paul Quinn"
00003 [ 11]: "Fabio Bizzi"
00006 [ 36]: "Empty to field with all nntp readers"
00004 [ 23]: "3:640/1384.125 5d4c9106"
00005 [ 20]: "2:335/364.1 5d4c1674"
00007 [ 16]: "JamNNTPd/Linux 1"
02000 [ 13]: "CHRS: UTF-8 2"
02004 [ 4]: "1000"
02000 [ 28]: "TID: CrashMail II/Linux 0.71"
02001 [ 66]: "203/0 221/0 1 6 242 360 240/1120 280/464 5003 5555 320/2193" 02001 [ 25]: "640/305 1321 1384 3634/12"
02002 [ 23]: "640/1384 221/1 240/1120"

So ad we can see no 00000 header.

Answering from PAN!

Crossing Fingers. :)

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Hello All!

09 Aug 19 08:34, I wrote to :

Let the evil help me! :)

The evil is evil! :(

The JAM base is new, I did as Paul suggested, the header is missing, now I don't know what to do.

Maybe a can of Kerosene and a lighter could help? >8^(

Ciao.
Fabio.
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: ]\/[imac Rebirth Boss Point (2:335/364.1)

Hi! Fabio,

On 08/09/2019 04:41 PM, Fabio Bizzi -> All wrote:

The evil is evil! :(

Bugger. (Aussie slang in place of lengthy expressions of disappointment.)

The JAM base is new, I did as Paul suggested, the header is missing, now
I don't know what to do.

A clean slate is a 'Good Thing'(tm).

Maybe a can of Kerosene and a lighter could help? >8^(

A zippo of course. I have two, three if I count an electronic type.

Try '-noreplyaddr' in your configuration file.

Cheers,
Paul.

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09 Aug 19 17:07, Paul Quinn wrote to Fabio Bizzi:

Try '-noreplyaddr' in your configuration file.

Also try "def_showto off"

These should affect all echoes and would not help, but you could try.

'Tommi

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Il Fri, 09 Aug 2019 15:07:42 +1000, Paul Quinn -> Fabio Bizzi ha scritto:

A clean slate is a 'Good Thing'(tm).

have I to delete the jamnntpd JAM base and let hpt to build a new one
with the first incoming msg? :/

Maybe a can of Kerosene and a lighter could help? >8^(

A zippo of course. I have two, three if I count an electronic type.

I LOVE ZIPPO!!! :) When I used to smoke my lighter was a Zippo with Elvis
in the front. :D

Try '-noreplyaddr' in your configuration file.

Ok, added in the smapinntpd.config and restarted the server, so let send
this message and we'll know.

Many thanks! :)

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Hi Fabio.

09 Aug 19 10:23:46, you wrote to :

@MSGID: 2:335/364 5d4d2d8c
@PID: SmapiNNTPd/Linux 1.1
@CHRS: UTF-8 2
@TZUTC: 0200
@TID: hpt/lnx 1.9.0-cur 2019-01-08
Il Fri, 09 Aug 2019 15:07:42 +1000, Paul Quinn -> Fabio Bizzi ha scritto:

Try '-noreplyaddr' in your configuration file.

Ok, added in the smapinntpd.config and restarted the server, so let send this message and we'll know.

Replyaddress got lost but no help. :( :(

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'Tommi

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Il Fri, 09 Aug 2019 09:39:46 +0300, Tommi Koivula -> Fabio Bizzi ha
scritto:

Replyaddress got lost but no help. :( :(

Ok, delete the jamnntpd area, deleted the "dupes" file for this area,
removed the previous uplink (Uli) and uplinked only to your system,
rescanned all the messages and now let's see if I really have to burn the
node in the hell... :D

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From Fabio Bizzi To

Il Fri, 09 Aug 2019 09:39:46 +0300, Tommi Koivula -> Fabio Bizzi ha
scritto:

Replyaddress got lost but no help. :( :(

Ok, delete the jamnntpd area, deleted the "dupes" file for this area, removed the previous uplink (Uli) and uplinked only to your system, rescanned all the messages and now let's see if I really have to burn the node in the hell... :D
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This is getting more and more interesting.

What next? Switch to squish base?

How about echos other than this and fidotest?


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'Tommi

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Il Fri, 09 Aug 2019 12:10:40 +0300, Tommi Koivula -> Fabio Bizzi ha
scritto:

This is getting more and more interesting.

This is getting me to the ASYLUM! :)

What next? Switch to squish base?

:D

How about echos other than this and fidotest?

All works fine on Z33 Test Echo Area, do you want to write me a message
in the enet.sysop to chek in? ;)

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Hello Tommi!

09 Aug 19 14:06, I wrote to :

How about echos other than this and fidotest?

All works fine on Z33 Test Echo Area, do you want to write me a
message in the enet.sysop to chek in? ;)

Region 33, I'm on the dark side of Zone 33 :D :D: D

Ciao!
Fabio

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Hi! Fabio,

On 08/09/2019 10:13 PM, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

How about echos other than this and fidotest?

All works fine on Z33 Test Echo Area, do you want to write me a
message in the enet.sysop to chek in? ;)

Region 33, I'm on the dark side of Zone 33 :D :D: D

If it's possible for selected outsiders to have access, could you netmail me such protocol voodoo and a loginID & password? I'd like to see if I can break the server too... while you're sleeping. 8-)

Cheers,
Paul.

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On 9/08/2019 07:15, Paul Quinn -> Fabio Bizzi wrote:

Do you have a kind of native Australian sorcerer or shaman handy? :D

None that any civilized persons would want to know. No longer really
used these days, the Kadaitcha Man was pure evil.

Did you just "know" that, or did you research it?

I'd heard of "bone pointing" but not much more.

--

Regards
David

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Hi! David,

On 11 Aug 19 09:49, you wrote to me:

the Kadaitcha Man was pure evil.

Did you just "know" that, or did you research it?

Absolutely not. It spontaneously instilled itself in my conciousness.

I'd heard of "bone pointing" but not much more.

I first heard tales of the use (usually in the form of a threat) in one of my early secondary school classes. The 'bone' bit & the shoes that leave no print of the spirit man in the dirt, as he stalks a victim. I never got a chance to ask about them of my aunty Flo' (a full-blood 'coloured person').

Cheers,
Paul.

... Hey Look! It's the Wit brothers: Half, Dim and Nit.
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Hi! David,

I forgot to ask: what does a city boy do for a fun time in Berry Springs, NT. Any post-trip happy snaps or... are you still running a website?

Cheers,
Paul.

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"Paul Quinn : (none)" wrote:
====

Congratulations! You can do it also!

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(2:335/364)

'Tommi

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Hi! Tommi,

On 08/12/2019 06:42 PM, wrote:

"Paul Quinn : (none)" wrote:you
====
Congratulations! You can do it also!

Yes. Even with the old T'Bird...

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Thunderbird/31.4.0

I'm not happy with it. It leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

All things considered I would hunt for a better solution. The newer JamNNTPd versions cannot be trusted. Nor can attempting 64bit compilations. Heck, even the original basic SMAPI version cannot be either, as warned by Johan in his documentation; it was a test version of itself.

I would still be content with 32bit compiles operating in a vBox VM. They haven't failed me yet.

Cheers,
Paul.

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On 12.08.2019 12:13, Paul Quinn : Tommi Koivula :

Hi! Tommi,

On 08/12/2019 06:42 PM,  wrote:

 TK> "Paul Quinn : (none)" wrote:you
 TK>                ====
 TK> Congratulations! You can do it also!

Yes.  Even with the old T'Bird...

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 TK> Thunderbird/31.4.0

I'm not happy with it.  It leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

Indeed. And why it is happening only in one certain Fabio's base?

All things considered I would hunt for a better solution.  The newer JamNNTPd versions cannot be trusted.  Nor can attempting 64bit compilations.  Heck, even the original basic SMAPI version cannot be
either, as warned by Johan in his documentation; it was a test version
of itself.

I would still be content with 32bit compiles operating in a vBox VM.
They haven't failed me yet.

I have three JamNNTPd's running in 32bit systems. They all work fine.

OS/2, compiled with the good old GCC 3.2.1
Windows server 2003, compiled with Cygwin GCC version 5.4.0
Raspberry PI2, compiled with gcc version 5.4.0

It would be nice to have a real programmer to get JamNNTPd work in 64bit
OS. :)

'Tommi

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Hello, Paul Quinn.
On 12/08/19 19:13 you wrote:

Hi! Tommi, On 08/12/2019 06:42 PM, wrote:

"Paul Quinn : (none)" wrote:you
====
Congratulations! You can do it also!

Yes. Even with the old T'Bird...

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Thunderbird/31.4.0

I'm not happy with it. It leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

But only on my system and in this echo!

Call the Kadaitcha man now ad give him the address of my server, did you ever seen... didn't you? :D
--
Ciao! :)
Fabio.
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Hi! Fabio,

On 12 Aug 19 12:04, you wrote to me:

I'm not happy with it. It leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

But only on my system and in this echo!

Mmm... yes.

Call the Kadaitcha man now ad give him the address of my server, did
you ever seen... didn't you? :D

I would not. You are too much of a gentleman.

P.S. I will keep the login credentials for your server till you tell me not to. Mucha gracias. (Have you seen the film 'The Tourist (2010)', starring Johnny Depp? You should. It does help to explain my ineptitude with Italian.)

Cheers,
Paul.

... I DID read the manual! That's why I'm confused!!
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Hello, Paul Quinn.
On 12/08/19 20:27 you wrote:

P.S. I will keep the login credentials for your server till you
tell me not to. Mucha gracias. (Have you seen the film 'The
Tourist (2010)', starring Johnny Depp? You should. It does help
to explain my ineptitude with Italian.)

No, I didn't, I'll do. :)

You are welcome on my server, whistle if you need something else. ;)

--
Ciao! :)
Fabio.
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Hi Paul.

12 Aug 19 20:27:22, you wrote to Fabio Bizzi:

(Have you seen the film 'The Tourist (2010)',
starring Johnny Depp? You should. It does help to explain my
ineptitude with Italian.)

Should I watch it also? I spent a lot of time in Italy some years ago.... About for a total of one year or so, between 2011-2014. :)

Cheers,
Paul.

Ciao,
'Tommi

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Have you seen the film 'The Tourist (2010)', starring Johnny Depp? You should.

I have, several times. I just love it.

But I don't think that you can judge anything Italian by it... ;)




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Hi! Tommi,

On 08/13/2019 03:34 AM, you wrote:

(Have you seen the film 'The Tourist (2010)',

Should I watch it also? I spent a lot of time in Italy some years
ago.... About for a total of one year or so, between 2011-2014. :)

Maybe you missed something when travelling in Italy? I enjoyed discovering Venice from the PoV of a tourist. I've seen a few scientific documentaries on Venice but I totally enjoyed Depp's experience, allowing me to accompany him in the film.

Netmail me if you need a link to the flick. Maybe I can help.

Cheers,
Paul.

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Hi! Björn,

On 08/13/2019 08:18 AM, you wrote:

Have you seen the film 'The Tourist (2010)', starring Johnny
Depp? You should.

I have, several times. I just love it.
But I don't think that you can judge anything Italian by it... ;)

A picture is worth a 1000 words, someone said. Depp proved what a fish looks like out of water. Damned awkward. A high point in the flick is the way the hotel concierge deals with Depp, deviously & nonchalantly. 8-)

IAC, Venice is beautiful.

Cheers,
Paul.

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A high point in the flick is the way the hotel concierge deals with
Depp, deviously & nonchalantly. 8-)

Not to mention the police officer that "helped" him.

IAC, Venice is beautiful.

I totally agree. Let's hope it stays above sea level for some more time.



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On 12/08/2019 17:54, Paul Quinn -> (none) wrote:

I forgot to ask: what does a city boy do for a fun time in Berry
Springs, NT.

I was camped there (in a van park) while I toured the area looking at stuff (and I failed to change my origin line for a while when I left. I ran out of internet on my phone somewhat before the month was up :(

Any post-trip happy snaps or... are you still running a
website?

No website any more - it was hosted on work servers and they took away my access when I left and shut it down.

I sometimes post on Facebook - but not many photos.

--

Regards
David

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I sometimes post on Facebook - but not many photos.

Many David Drummonds there. Maybe you could try to look me up? I'm much easier to find...



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On 13/08/2019 18:50, 2:203/2 wrote:

I sometimes post on Facebook - but not many photos.

Many David Drummonds there. Maybe you could try to look me up? I'm much easier to find...

A few with your name too.

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Regards
David

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A few with your name too.

Now look at that. There's three of us now...



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