Hello There,

Can Golded+/Lnx v1.1.5 be setup correctly to work with Synchronet 3.17/Lnx?

I have tried specifying a SBBS areafile msgs.cnf but Golded doesn't load.
If I use Areadef to specify each Jam message area then Golded+ loads ok and I can create messages in SBBS's message base. But SBBS (Sbbsecho) doesn't seem to
see the new message as a new post. But the message is added to the SBBS jam files for the area posted in.

Is SBBS's Jam file format proprietary enough for it not to see GE posted messages?


Jeff
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On 2019 Jun 24 23:01:08, you wrote to All:

Can Golded+/Lnx v1.1.5 be setup correctly to work with Synchronet

3.17/Lnx?

yes, it should be able to... nick boel used to use it quite a bit, IIRC... also matt bedynek and i think eric renfro as well... i see their posts over on the ozzmosis archive site...

this link will drop you into the golded echo back in 2015 Jul 21... i'm not sure how far forward (next link on each message) one might have to go to find all the desired answers... i read 30 or 40 messages for nostalgia and actually remember my participation :)

https://fidonet.ozzmosis.com/echomail.php/golded/ee69464a057536f4.html

or

https://tinyurl.com/y5vzsz5g

I have tried specifying a SBBS areafile msgs.cnf but Golded doesn't
load. If I use Areadef to specify each Jam message area then Golded+
loads ok and

sbbs doesn't use JAM... it uses SMB, its own format... they are not the same...

there was a problem with getting golded to use the group prefix but i recall that DM spent some time after 2015 or so and submitted some patches... i don't know if they were ever actually added to the base system or if one needs the SMB patches to add it to their self-built golded... DM will know more, i'm sure... he may even have a wiki page with details on synchronet with golded...

right now, i just have my sbbs send areas to this point system where i use hpt with golded and binkd...

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On 2019 Jun 25 00:03:22, I wrote to you:

there was a problem with getting golded to use the group prefix but i recall that DM spent some time after 2015 or so and submitted some patches... i don't know if they were ever actually added to the base

system

or if one needs the SMB patches to add it to their self-built golded...

DM

will know more, i'm sure... he may even have a wiki page with details on synchronet with golded...

and i just found one of rob's (aka DM) posts that i was thinking about :)

https://fidonet.ozzmosis.com/echomail.php/golded/4b1f95de542ddcb2.html

or

https://tinyurl.com/yycxkmld

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On 2019 Jun 25 00:27:30, I wrote to you:

On 2019 Jun 25 00:03:22, I wrote to you:

there was a problem with getting golded to use the group prefix but i
recall that DM spent some time after 2015 or so and submitted some
patches... i don't know if they were ever actually added to the base
system or if one needs the SMB patches to add it to their self-built
golded... DM will know more, i'm sure... he may even have a wiki page
with details on synchronet with golded...

and i just found one of rob's (aka DM) posts that i was thinking about :)

reading over the patch, it appears that it has been applied to the golded sources... i'm able to find all the changes in my local golded git repo which i last updated 2018 Dec 28...

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Can Golded+/Lnx v1.1.5 be setup correctly to work with Synchronet 3.17/Lnx?

Yes, I've done it in the past and it works.

I have tried specifying a SBBS areafile msgs.cnf but Golded doesn't load.
If I use Areadef to specify each Jam message area then Golded+ loads ok and
can create messages in SBBS's message base. But SBBS (Sbbsecho) doesn't seem
see the new message as a new post. But the message is added to the SBBS jam files for the area posted in.

SBBS uses the SMB message base format, not jam. If you've created jam msg bases
golded can read and write them, but not SBBS.

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Jeff Smith wrote to All <=-

Is SBBS's Jam file format proprietary enough for it not to see GE
posted messages?

I was the one that got SMB (Synchronet Message Base) format put into GoldEd+ around 2000-2001. GED has very rudimentary support because the then-author
of GED said that SMB was a bitch to work with and he wouldn't get any
farther than the basics for support. But I can personally verify that it
does work though I don't know if SBBS works as well with GED these days due
to updates with SBBS.

I do remember that SMB set up was 100% manual in GOLDED.CFG using the
"Areas" keyword.

Hope this helps clear up things a little.

Later,
Sean


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Hallo Sean!

25.06.2019 18:25, Sean Dennis schrieb an Jeff Smith:

Is SBBS's Jam file format proprietary enough for it not to see GE
posted messages?

I was the one that got SMB (Synchronet Message Base) format put into GoldEd+ around 2000-2001. GED has very rudimentary support because
the then-author of GED said that SMB was a bitch to work with and he wouldn't get any farther than the basics for support. But I can personally verify that it does work though I don't know if SBBS works
as well with GED these days due to updates with SBBS.

I do remember that SMB set up was 100% manual in GOLDED.CFG using the "Areas" keyword.

Just a note;
smb support needs to be disabled on the current sourcetree of golded+ to get it compiled on OS/2-ECS, ArcaOS.
Something is broken on the libs since the sourcetree of 07.2018. I didn't differ all sources curently, as I've done this, I'll fix it for OS/2 gcc3/6/8

Hope this helps clear up things a little.

Later,
Sean

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Hello, Jeff Smith.
On 6/24/19 11:01 PM you wrote:

Hello There, Can Golded+/Lnx v1.1.5 be setup correctly to work
with Synchronet 3.17/Lnx? I have tried specifying a SBBS areafile msgs.cnf but Golded doesn't load. If I use Areadef to specify each
Jam message area then Golded+ loads ok and I can create messages
in SBBS's message base. But SBBS (Sbbsecho) doesn't seem to see
the new message as a new post. But the message is added to the
SBBS jam files for the area posted in. Is SBBS's Jam file format proprietary enough for it not to see GE posted messages?

I'm a little late replying to this, but I do use golded with synchronet, and all I have to do is point to my sbbs directory. If I remember, when I get home (I'm on vacation right now) I'll post the config lines required to make it work.

It can be a little buggy, but it works for the most part.
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Hello Sean,

But I can personally verify that it
does work though I don't know if SBBS works as well with GED these days due to updates with SBBS.

I currently have a current version of SBBS with the exception of SBBSECHO. There
is a new v3.07 available that I haven't updated too yet.

I do remember that SMB set up was 100% manual in GOLDED.CFG using the
"Areas" keyword.

I did try several SBBS AREAFILE possibilities in GED but none worked. I did have to specify each message area via the AREADEF keyword. Once I changed all 210 JAM specifications to SMB then SBBS seen messages posted in GED.

Hope this helps clear up things a little.

That would be in the affirmative. :-)

Thanks.


Jeff

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Hello Mike,

On 6/24/19 11:01 PM you wrote:

Hello There, Can Golded+/Lnx v1.1.5 be setup correctly to work
with Synchronet 3.17/Lnx? I have tried specifying a SBBS areafile
msgs.cnf but Golded doesn't load. If I use Areadef to specify each
Jam message area then Golded+ loads ok and I can create messages
in SBBS's message base. But SBBS (Sbbsecho) doesn't seem to see
the new message as a new post. But the message is added to the
SBBS jam files for the area posted in. Is SBBS's Jam file format
proprietary enough for it not to see GE posted messages?

I'm a little late replying to this, but I do use golded with synchronet, and
all I have to do is point to my sbbs directory. If I remember, when I get home
(I'm on vacation right now) I'll post the config lines required to make it work. It can be a little buggy, but it works for the most part.

I tried various Areafile possibilities but either Golded or SBBS were not reading or expressing the needed data. Once I specified all the areas manually using the the Areadef keyword and specified SMB as the area type. Then Golded could see and use the configured message areas.

Jeff


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On 2019 Jul 10 18:50:54, you wrote to Mike Miller:

I'm a little late replying to this, but I do use golded with
synchronet, and all I have to do is point to my sbbs directory. If I
remember, when I get home (I'm on vacation right now) I'll post the
config lines required to make it work. It can be a little buggy, but it
works for the most part.

I tried various Areafile possibilities but either Golded or SBBS were
not reading or expressing the needed data.

it is golded not reading all the data properly... the patches provided to add SBBS to golded don't cover adding config file processing... they only provide proper access to the message bases themselves...

Once I specified all the areas manually using the the Areadef keyword
and specified SMB as the area type. Then Golded could see and use the configured message areas.

yes, this is currently the only way for golded to use SBBS message bases...

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Hello mark,

18 Jul 19 09:59 at you wrote to Jeff Smith:

it is golded not reading all the data properly... the patches provided
to add SBBS to golded don't cover adding config file processing...
they only provide proper access to the message bases themselves...

Alexander added SBBS access all those years ago. He said he "absolutely detested" working with SMB because he felt it was "overly complicated". Alexander added that he would "add the most basic of support" and if I wanted anything else, I'd have to do it myself. :D

I will say that it did work just fine for me for the short while I ran SBBS without issue. I discovered that SMB would lock itself up sometimes though and I started just reading mail offline if I wanted to deal with it.

Later,
Sean

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