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    From Jeff Smith@2:250/1 to All on Mon Apr 1 03:33:22 2019
    Hello There,

    I am having a weird occurrence with a fresh install of the Linux flavor of Golded.

    // Area definitions using the areadef keyword.
    ;Syntax: Echoid "Description" Groupid Type Format Path or board Aka (Attributes) "Origin"

    areadef NETMAIL "Netmails" 0 Net Opus /home/mystic/msgs/netmail . (Loc Pvt)

    areadef FSX_GEN "FSX_GEN" X Echo Jam /home/mystic/msgs 21:1/128 . (loc) "Fsxnet: The Twisted Balloon"

    areadef FSX_MYS "FSX_MYS" X Echo Jam /home/mystic/msgs 21:1/128 . (loc) "Fsxnet: The Twisted Balloon"

    Note: The above is not word wrapped in the Golded config

    But with Golded loaded and looking at the Golded arealist I see:

    Area Description Msgs New EchoID G
    1 Netmails 0 0 NETMAIL
    2 FSX_MYS 0 0 FSX_GEN X


    Now if I enable another message area I get:

    Echoid "Description" Groupid Type Format Path or board Aka (Attributes) "Origin"
    areadef NETMAIL "Netmails" 0 Net Opus /home/mystic/msgs/netmail . (Loc Pvt)

    areadef FSX_GEN "FSX_GEN" X Echo Jam /home/mystic/msgs 21:1/128 . (loc) "Fsxnet: The Twisted Balloon"

    areadef FSX_MYS "FSX_MYS" X Echo Jam /home/mystic/msgs 21:1/128 . (loc) "Fsxnet: The Twisted Balloon"

    areadef FSX_MAG "FSX_MAG" X Echo Jam /home/mystic/msgs 21:1/128 . (loc) "Fsxnet: The Twisted Balloon"


    Area Description Msgs New EchoID G
    1 Netmails 0 0 NETMAIL
    2 FSX_MAG 0 0 FSX_GEN X

    I actually have some 200 message areas setup in Golded.cfg but all
    but these are commented out at the moment.

    I have tried a number of syntax changes to no avail. And regardless
    of how many message areas are enabled. Golded only shows the netmail
    area and one confused message area with Golded loaded.

    What the heck am I missing?

    Jeff

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  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/219 to Jeff Smith on Mon Apr 1 06:43:04 2019
    Hello Jeff!

    01 Apr 19 03:33, you wrote to all:

    I am having a weird occurrence with a fresh install of the Linux
    flavor of Golded.

    // Area definitions using the areadef keyword.
    ;Syntax: Echoid "Description" Groupid Type Format Path or board
    Aka (Attributes) "Origin"

    areadef NETMAIL "Netmails" 0 Net Opus /home/mystic/msgs/netmail .
    (Loc Pvt)

    areadef FSX_GEN "FSX_GEN" X Echo Jam /home/mystic/msgs 21:1/128 .
    (loc) "Fsxnet: The Twisted Balloon"

    areadef FSX_MYS "FSX_MYS" X Echo Jam /home/mystic/msgs 21:1/128 .
    (loc) "Fsxnet: The Twisted Balloon"

    What the heck am I missing?

    You appear to have both of these message areas defined with the same path. Try changing the first one to /home/mystic/msgs/fsx_gen and the second one to /home/mystic/msgs/fsx_mys. Jam areas are defined with the path and base filename, similar to Squish areas.

    Andrew

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to Jeff Smith on Mon Apr 1 20:50:12 2019
    Hi! Jeff,

    On 01 Apr 19 03:33, you wrote to All:

    What the heck am I missing?

    Drop the dot after the zone 21 aka. They mean the same kind of thing: only one aka allowed, default main or another specified aka. Not both. Norty. ;)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

    ... Nobody is deafer than one who does not want to hear.
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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Jeff Smith on Mon Apr 1 16:36:56 2019
    Hi Jeff!

    01 Apr 2019 03:33, from Jeff Smith -> All:

    areadef FSX_GEN "FSX_GEN" X Echo Jam /home/mystic/msgs 21:1/128 . areadef FSX_MYS "FSX_MYS" X Echo Jam /home/mystic/msgs 21:1/128 .

    Both areas are stored in the SAME JAM Base???
    Or maybe /home/mystic/msgs is a directory??
    Then you need to add the JAM basename eg:
    /home/mystic/msgs/FSX_GEN

    CU, Ricsi

    ... Conscience is what hurts when everything else feels so good.
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  • From Jeff Smith@2:250/1 to Paul Quinn on Mon Apr 1 06:18:00 2019
    Hello Paul,

    On 01 Apr 19 03:33, you wrote to All:

    What the heck am I missing?

    Drop the dot after the zone 21 aka. They mean the same kind of thing: only on
    aka allowed, default main or another specified aka. Not both. Norty. ;)

    Yeah. I tried it with/without the dot. I tried it with/without the (loc). I tried it with/without a trailing path slash "/".

    The syntax in use (With necessary case and path differences) works fine on my Windows PC.

    Evidently there are other differences between the Windows and Linux syntax.

    Jeff

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  • From Jeff Smith@2:250/1 to Andrew Leary on Mon Apr 1 06:33:26 2019
    Hello Andrew,

    What the heck am I missing?

    You appear to have both of these message areas defined with the same path. Try changing the first one to /home/mystic/msgs/fsx_gen and the second one
    to
    /home/mystic/msgs/fsx_mys. Jam areas are defined with the path and base filename, similar to Squish areas.

    I can see clearly that I need to think more first. <sigh> It was one of those mental block type things I guess. I would like to think I was just on the VERGE of thinking of that myself. :-)

    Thanks Andrew.

    Jeff


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Jeff Smith on Mon Apr 1 11:33:00 2019

    On 2019 Apr 01 03:33:22, you wrote to All:

    I have tried a number of syntax changes to no avail. And regardless
    of how many message areas are enabled. Golded only shows the netmail
    area and one confused message area with Golded loaded.

    What the heck am I missing?

    is your golded reading the tosser config?

    areadef FSX_MAG "FSX_MAG" X Echo Jam /home/mystic/msgs 21:1/128 . (loc) "Fsxnet: The Twisted Balloon"

    FWIW: my area definitions are expressed in this manner and look a lot different...

    ==== Begin "1-3634-12.areas" ====
    # areas file used with husky software for 1:3634/12

    # Fidonet Backbone Areas
    EchoArea 10th_amd /home/myuser/fido/msgBase/fido/backbone/1/10th_amd -d "10th Amendment Echo" -b jam -a 1:3634/12.73 -g B -p 1100 -dupeCheck move -dupeHistory 1100 -sbkeepall 1:3634/12

    ==== End "1-3634-12.areas" ====


    my GoldEd is also configured to read the fidoconfig format for my HPT installation... in there i have only three areas defined right before the above include file... those areas are defined like this...


    ==== Begin "config" ====
    # FidoConfig generated by fidoInst for bash by Zano
    Version 0.14

    [...]

    ## mail areas
    NetMailArea NetMailArea /home/myuser/fido/msgBase/netmail
    -b jam
    BadArea Badarea /home/myuser/fido/msgBase/bad
    -b jam
    DupeArea DupeArea /home/myuser/fido/msgBase/dupe
    -b jam -p 1

    Include /home/myuser/fido/etc/1-3634-12.areas
    ==== End "config" ====


    i've never used the "areadef" format... only this one as depicted above which has ~250 areas defined...


    )\/(ark

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  • From Jeff Smith@2:250/1 to Mark Lewis on Tue Apr 2 01:12:48 2019
    Hello Mark,
    On 2019 Apr 01 03:33:22, you wrote to All:

    What the heck am I missing?
    is your golded reading the tosser config?

    It did when I had Golded working with HPT and BinkD on an older Win32 PC.

    areadef FSX_MAG "FSX_MAG" X Echo Jam /home/mystic/msgs 21:1/128 .
    (loc) "Fsxnet: The Twisted Balloon"

    FWIW: my area definitions are expressed in this manner and look a lot different...

    Currently Golded will be reading a Mystic JAM messagebase. My problem was my silly oversight that I needed to specify a JAM filename for each message area. As a result I had to create a Golded config file for the 200+ message areas. Thank goodness for an editor with a column mode. :-)

    Jeff

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Jeff Smith on Fri Apr 5 12:32:34 2019

    On 2019 Apr 02 01:12:48, you wrote to me:

    What the heck am I missing?
    is your golded reading the tosser config?

    It did when I had Golded working with HPT and BinkD on an older Win32 PC.

    that's the combo i'm using here on this point system except it is on linux...

    FWIW: my area definitions are expressed in this manner and look a lot
    different...

    Currently Golded will be reading a Mystic JAM messagebase. My problem
    was my silly oversight that I needed to specify a JAM filename for
    each message area. As a result I had to create a Golded config file
    for the 200+ message areas. Thank goodness for an editor with a column mode. :-)

    yeah, i saw that later on... it can be painful... i thought mystic had a method to export an areas.bbs file that other software could read? hummm... it has been a while since i really looked deeply at mystic, though... i was considering it for my recent change but had to back off for several reasons...

    )\/(ark

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