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  • Re: A simpler backbone

    From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Matt Munson on Mon Aug 17 10:42:00 2020
    Matt Munson wrote to All <=-

    RE: A simpler backbone
    BY: All

    Maybe we need to revitalize the backbone list and cut 20-30% of the confrences. If people have an urge for some of the other echoes there
    can be an alternate backbone.

    I've thought the echo list is ripe for pruning. Trying to get
    moderators of empty echoes to give up is a lost cause, so maybe
    starting with a new backbone is the way to go?

    No backbone is needed, we don't have toll charges (for the most part).
    No one trusts anyone to power any more, so build a mesh design. No
    moderators, since there's no such thing as a feed cut any more.

    What other 20th century limitations can we ignore with this new network-within-a-network?

    Would it work?





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  • From Matt Munson@1:218/109 to Kurt Weiske on Wed Aug 19 22:02:49 2020
    RE: Re: A simpler backbone
    BY: Kurt Weiske(1:218/700)


    I've thought the echo list is ripe for pruning. Trying to get
    moderators of empty echoes to give up is a lost cause, so maybe
    starting with a new backbone is the way to go?
    I know we likely could do some unofficial echoes and if they have wide appeal, then they can be promoted to the full backbone. I know some good echoes got killed because no one bothered to elist them like MUSIC.


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Kurt Weiske on Thu Aug 20 14:35:00 2020
    On 08-17-20 10:42, Kurt Weiske wrote to Matt Munson <=-

    Maybe we need to revitalize the backbone list and cut 20-30% of the confrences. If people have an urge for some of the other echoes there
    can be an alternate backbone.

    There are a lot of dead echos on Fidonet.

    No backbone is needed, we don't have toll charges (for the most part).
    No one trusts anyone to power any more, so build a mesh design. No moderators, since there's no such thing as a feed cut any more.

    Hmm, sounds like Fidoweb. ;)

    Maybe the idea can be refined and made into a post by post distribution system like newsgroups with top notch dupe detection, so when one node says "I have message ID <ID>, with hash <hash>", their peers can say either "Send it" or "I already have that one", and save sending it in the first place, if it's not needed.


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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Matt Munson on Thu Aug 20 10:29:10 2020
    Hi, Matt!

    19 авг 20 22:02, Matt Munson -> Kurt Weiske:

    I know we likely could do some unofficial echoes and if they have wide appeal, then they can be promoted to the full backbone. I know some
    good
    echoes got killed because no one bothered to elist them like MUSIC.

    In the Russian-speaking part of Fido, the situation is quite the opposite. If there is a good echo, then sooner or later it will be lifted onto the backbone.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Matt Munson@1:218/109 to Stas Mishchenkov on Thu Aug 20 21:16:56 2020
    RE: Re: A simpler backbone
    BY: Stas Mishchenkov(2:460/5858)


    In the Russian-speaking part of Fido, the situation is quite the
    opposite. If there is a good echo, then sooner or later it will be
    lifted onto the backbone.
    Its good that we learn from each other so we can have good best practices.


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