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  • By this link you can read the echo conference from Telegram

    From Brother Rabbit@2:460/58 to All on Sat Nov 14 12:36:10 2020
    By this link you can read the echo conference from Telegram. https://t.me/joinchat/H99gCElfwUN8_0uYqBJ_gQ

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  • From August Abolins@2:460/58 to Brother Rabbit on Sat Nov 14 18:10:11 2020
    By this link you can read the echo conference from Telegram. https://t.me/joinchat/H99gCElfwUN8_0uYqBJ_gQ

    Is that effectively turning the unsearchable group now public too? I am not sure we want totally random people having the ability to post on the first visit. They need to be familiar with the echo rules for one thing.


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  • From Charles Pierson@2:460/58 to August Abolins on Sat Nov 14 18:23:12 2020
    Is that effectively turning the unsearchable group now public too? I am
    not sure we want totally random people having the ability to post on the first visit. They need to be familiar with the echo rules for one thing.

    Here's the thing: Telegram to Fido is for all intents and purposes, a BBS platform.

    Anyone who wants to, basically, can join a BBS, and access any message group available. I didn't necessarily know the rules of the message groups when I first joined. I learned them as i went, or when the moderator posted them. Or other users and moderators would point out if something violated the rules.

    At some point, if you want it to be a functioning growing place for people to be able to access and learn about Fidonet and it's echos, you have to have the opportunity for them to find it.

    It's far easier to allow people in, and manage filtering out the occasional troublemaker, than it is to manage people contacting you individually for access.


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  • From Brother Rabbit@2:460/58 to August Abolins on Sat Nov 14 21:43:11 2020
    Is that effectively turning the unsearchable group now public too? I am
    not sure we want totally random people having the ability to post on the first visit. They need to be familiar with the echo rules for one thing.

    Since the link is published in the echo, only those who read this conference will be able to follow it. In addition, we can always change this link or even disable it.


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    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From Brother Rabbit@2:460/58 to Charles Pierson on Sat Nov 14 21:47:12 2020
    Here's the thing: Telegram to Fido is for all intents and purposes, a
    BBS platform.

    Anyone who wants to, basically, can join a BBS, and access any message
    group available. I didn't necessarily know the rules of the message groups when I first joined. I learned them as i went, or when the moderator posted them. Or other users and moderators would point out if something violated the rules.

    At some point, if you want it to be a functioning growing place for
    people to be able to access and learn about Fidonet and it's echos, you have to have the opportunity for them to find it.

    It's far easier to allow people in, and manage filtering out the
    occasional troublemaker, than it is to manage people contacting you individually for access.

    And it is impossible to argue with that. It is impossible to say more correctly. I would like to carve these words on the tablets in fiery letters!


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  • From August Abolins@2:460/58 to Brother Rabbit on Sat Nov 14 21:50:12 2020
    Since the link is published in the echo, only those who read this
    conference will be able to follow it. In addition, we can always change this link or even disable it.

    The publishing the invite link the way you devised seems fine. I was just trying to wrap my head around it being private, yet not - kind of. It still seems to be a fine idea to leave it private and not findable on Telegram. You have basically started a promo campaign using the bot. Reaching the landing page is cool - especially since it utilizes the icon and the description there.


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  • From August Abolins@2:460/58 to Brother Rabbit on Sat Nov 14 22:35:15 2020
    By this link you can read the echo conference from Telegram. https://t.me/joinchat/H99gCElfwUN8_0uYqBJ_gQ

    Does this link produce the same result?

    https://t.me/joinchat/SPBwvElfwUPvwAigYZO8oA


    --- tg BBS v0.6.2
    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From August Abolins@1:0/0 to Charles Pierson on Sat Nov 14 21:21:10 2020
    Hi Charles!

    14 Nov 20 18:23, you wrote to me:

    At some point, if you want it to be a functioning growing place for
    people to be able to access and learn about Fidonet and it's echos,
    you have to have the opportunity for them to find it.

    It's far easier to allow people in, and manage filtering out the occasional troublemaker, than it is to manage people contacting you individually for access.

    I think I've heard "Here's the thing" quite a bit. Biden, perhaps?

    I agree that a link that takes someone to the group (and start posting from Telegram) is much easier than the manual approval method.

    Rev your engines. Start promoting: blogs, forums.


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  • From August Abolins@1:0/0 to Brother Rabbit on Sat Nov 14 21:48:23 2020
    Hi Brother!

    14 Nov 20 21:43, you wrote to me:

    Since the link is published in the echo, only those who read this conference will be able to follow it. In addition, we can always
    change this link or even disable it.

    The last part is a cool feature to sort of "pull the plug" until someone takes the time to find the fresh link.


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  • From August Abolins@2:460/58 to Brother Rabbit on Sun Nov 15 00:34:11 2020
    And it is impossible to argue with that. It is impossible to say more
    correctly. I would like to carve these words on the tablets in fiery letters!

    Or.. we can always fight off the uncooperative in this manner. After all, they are expendable. :)
    .
    https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5fb04d52.jpg




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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to August Abolins on Sun Nov 15 01:16:22 2020
    Hi, August!

    14 ноя 20 22:35, August Abolins -> Brother Rabbit:

    By this link you can read the echo conference from Telegram.
    https://t.me/joinchat/H99gCElfwUN8_0uYqBJ_gQ

    Does this link produce the same result?

    https://t.me/joinchat/SPBwvElfwUPvwAigYZO8oA

    Yes. The same.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Мудрость - это когда ты всё понимаешь, но уже не огорчаешься.
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