Hello All!

AS many of you might know Janis Kracht has shut down here servers so five of
us have taken over as Star systems with three in North America, me in Europe and one is Australiasia namely :

2:250/1 Europe - (Me) - Vincent Coen
3:640/66 Australia - Terry Roati
1:275/100 N.A (Nth America) - Carol Shenkenberger [ Still being set up ] 1:153/7715 N.A. - Dallas Hinton North America
1:3634/12 N.A. - Mark Lewis

2:250/1 is acting as master hub / Star for receipt of new files and new areas as well as looking after the file FILEGATE.ZXX and if needed FILEGATE.HDR.

This location should also be used for notifications of new file groups and areas and any other matters arising for the needs to be able to upload new archived files etc. Including the group or areas being discontinued or being passed over to another or if your node address should be replaced with another.


Some areas was under the control of Janis for distributing files so we will be looking for volunteers to take these over (See last version of FILEGATE.ZXX, but if you do not have one, drop me a netmail and I will send the current one.


(The file FDNINFO.ZIP is extremely out of date and may not be updated).

2:250/1 is linked to the other Star system in that all new files will be passed
on to them in a matter of seconds that to high speed internet connections between us all.

File that have the FILE_ID.DIZ or file_id.diz must contain the file details but
without non character out side the range A - Z, a - z, 0 - 9 period, comma and uplinks contact details etc. The reason for NOT having special symbols is that
many BBS system do not handle such charcters in a even manner making the description in ALLFILES and similar and within a BBS files areas look a mess and some do not like it at all, so please do not do it. Also describing a file as "abcde.ZIP is a what ever etc" it not correct for some systems as they change the archive for one they prefer to use in-house after testing for Viruses etc.

Mention if this version replaces a previous one and remember if you are supplying a .tic file to include the keyword REPLACE to remove older versions where ever possible as this help to keep BBS systems as clean as practical.

If the version is a test release then only replace previous test release.

Yes I know some of this will not apply to all of you but just trying to cover every thing in one netmail

When contacting me to yourself up etc, please also supply your email address along with your best contact Fido network address if still operational.

I appreciate that not every one wishes to do the hatching of files so contact me with the details and I will take this on for you if needed.

Vincent (Coen)

UK Star (Filegate) 2:250/1

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AS many of you might know Janis Kracht has shut down here servers so
five of
us have taken over as Star systems with three in North America, me in Europe
and one is Australiasia namely :

Don't you have a dedicated echo for your five person network?



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On 2022 Jan 05 07:42:46, you wrote to Vincent Coen:

AS many of you might know Janis Kracht has shut down here servers
so five of us have taken over as Star systems with three in North
America, me in Europe and one is Australiasia namely :

Don't you have a dedicated echo for your five person network?

do you have a problem with him publishing what is going on since the loss of one of the star systems?

)\/(ark

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Don't you have a dedicated echo for your five person network?

do you have a problem with him publishing what is going on since the
loss of one of the star systems?

When it's a matter of very limited interest, and it's cross posted in almost a dozen major echoes plus netmail to all RCs, well, I think a *question* is relevant.



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Bj”rn Felten wrote to mark lewis <=-

Don't you have a dedicated echo for your five person network?

do you have a problem with him publishing what is going on since the
loss of one of the star systems?

When it's a matter of very limited interest, and it's cross
posted in almost a dozen major echoes plus netmail to all RCs,
well, I think a *question* is relevant.

It's *NOT* a matter of limited interest. Your question was meant to be inflammatory, and we all know it.

Don't be a buffoon just because you can.



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On 2022 Jan 05 14:05:50, you wrote to me:

Don't you have a dedicated echo for your five person network?

do you have a problem with him publishing what is going on since the
loss of one of the star systems?

When it's a matter of very limited interest,

apparently that's your problem... there seem to be quite a few people interested in what is going on... it is ok if you don't care, though... you are allowed that ;)

)\/(ark

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It's *NOT* a matter of limited interest.

Of course it is. It's an outdated topology that matters none.



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apparently that's your problem... there seem to be quite a few people interested in what is going on... it is ok if you don't care, though... you are allowed that ;)

So, here's two more questions then:

What sysops, that do not read your FILEGATE echo, is this information supposed to reach?

If it's a star topology, wouldn't it be enough that the four of you, connected to a fifth, are informed?



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On 05 Jan 22 04:38:34, Mark Lewis said the following to Bj*Rn Felten:

do you have a problem with him publishing what is going on since the loss o one of the star systems?

Mark, its 2022. Nobody cares about star systems other than the person running them. Its this psychological need to feel "important" with that "star" title.

The five of you lost the battle some time ago... Peering/meshing Fidoweb systems outnumber the five and is here to stay. Anyone can peer, from a system with a couple links to one with several dozen. Fidoweb systems don't carry their titles in their signatures or announce their status everywhere.

One of your stars felt compelled enough to link to everything here, a non-star system. You "stars" are tripping over yourselves to do what Fidoweb peers have done for years now.

Nick
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One of your stars felt compelled enough to link to everything here, a non-star system. You "stars" are tripping over yourselves to do what Fidoweb peers have done for years now.

I just have to look at how messages from Mark reaches my system.

X-JAM-PATH2D: 3634/12 154/10 203/0 2

How long would that path have been ten years ago? :)


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Hello Bj”rn!

Wednesday January 05 2022 07:42, you wrote to me:

AS many of you might know Janis Kracht has shut down here servers
so five of us have taken over as Star systems with three in North
America, me in Europe and one is Australiasia namely :

Don't you have a dedicated echo for your five person network?

This posting is for ANY one who might be a file contributor and as I do not know what areas they read I have posted it on a few areas that they 'might' be reading.


Vincent

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Hello Bj”rn!

Wednesday January 05 2022 14:05, you wrote to mark lewis:

Don't you have a dedicated echo for your five person network?

do you have a problem with him publishing what is going on since
the loss of one of the star systems?

When it's a matter of very limited interest, and it's cross posted
in almost a dozen major echoes plus netmail to all RCs, well, I think
a *question* is relevant.

It was not sent out to RC's directly only nodes that are listed in file FILEGATE.ZXX as contributors. The fact that they are a RC or any thing else is not relevant in this case !




Vincent

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Hi Bj”rn,

On 2022-01-05 07:42:46, you wrote to Vincent Coen:

AS many of you might know Janis Kracht has shut down here servers so
five of us have taken over as Star systems with three in North
America, me in Europe and one is Australiasia namely :

Don't you have a dedicated echo for your five person network?

There is Z1_BACKBONE, but strange enough that seems to be left out of the crosspost...

Bye, Wilfred.

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Bj”rn Felten wrote to Dan Clough <=-

It's *NOT* a matter of limited interest.

Of course it is. It's an outdated topology that matters none.

Okay, Karen. What matters none is: your opinion of it.



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It was not sent out to RC's directly only nodes that are listed in file FILEGATE.ZXX as contributors.

So why did I get a copy? Are you saying that someone added *me* to that list without my consent?



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Hello Björn!

Wednesday January 05 2022 21:28, you wrote to me:

It was not sent out to RC's directly only nodes that are listed
in file FILEGATE.ZXX as contributors.

So why did I get a copy? Are you saying that someone added *me* to
that list without my consent?

No looks like I mad a mistake somewhere as your details is NOT shown in the list I used but I did do escape for one node that did not exist in the nodelist.

So thats down to the way Golded does or doesn't do things.

Most odd, sorry about that - you can ignore.



Vincent

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do you have a problem with him publishing what is going on since the loss of one of the star systems?

Nobody gives a shit about te Star-system ... As far as I'm concerned these 5 people can call themselves whatever they want ...

\%/@rd

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Ward Dossche wrote to mark lewis <=-

do you have a problem with him publishing what is going on since the loss of one of the star systems?

Nobody gives a shit about te Star-system ...

Absolutely untrue.

As far as I'm concerned these 5 people can call themselves whatever
they want ...

I'm pretty sure nobody is concerned about what concerns you, and they
will be doing just that.

Have some coffee and chill out.


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Nobody gives a shit about the Star-system ...

Absolutely untrue.

Not just untrue, but even *absolutely* untrue? And you know this how? I mean, absolutely...



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Bj”rn Felten wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Nobody gives a shit about the Star-system ...

Absolutely untrue.

Not just untrue, but even *absolutely* untrue?

Yes.

And you know this how? I mean, absolutely...

Well, it would seem fairly obvious... I for one, give a shit, and I personally know others who do. See?

Here's a question for you: The moron known as "Lee Lofaso" recently
quoted me in the FidoNews echo, from a post I made in the FidoNet Sysop
echo. The question is - why are you allowing him access to that
sysop-only echo? Oh, and I know this because his posts come from your
system.

Please configure your system properly. If you need help doing that,
feel free to ask.



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The moron known as "Lee Lofaso"

Isn't that defamatory? Is that the type of Fidonet you want?

I don't give Lee "access" to this echo, I let him, and anyone else interested, read here. We have a saying over here in the *really* free world: Information wants to be free. A totally alien concept in certain corrupt societies, I know...


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Bj”rn Felten wrote to Dan Clough <=-

I don't give Lee "access" to this echo, I let him, and anyone
else interested, read here.

The name of the echo is FidoNet Sysops. Is Lee a FidoNet sysop? No.

I don't have time to look for a Rules file for the echo, but simple
common sense would indicate that that means *ONLY* FidoNet sysops should
have access to even *read* it, much lest post to it.

Again I ask you to please learn how to properly configure your system.

We have a saying over here in the
*really* free world: Information wants to be free. A totally
alien concept in certain corrupt societies, I know...

Your belief is that ALL information should be available to all persons? Honestly, is that what you think? Oh, and you're not really as free as
you think you are, you've just been conditioned to think that by your all-controlling government. I know, it's hard for you to imagine that.



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On 06 Jan 22 15:09:00, Dan Clough said the following to Bj*Rn Felten:

The name of the echo is FidoNet Sysops. Is Lee a FidoNet sysop? No.

Masturbatory sock puppets usually never are...

We have a saying over here in the
*really* free world: Information wants to be free. A totally
alien concept in certain corrupt societies, I know...

Your belief is that ALL information should be available to all persons?

Ask him for his banking credentials, Pin numbers, computer passwords since
that information wants to be free...

Nick

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On 7/01/2022 07:09, Dan Clough : Björn Felten wrote:

I don't have time to look for a Rules file for the echo, but simple
common sense would indicate that that means *ONLY* FidoNet sysops should have access to even *read* it, much lest post to it.

Anyone operating a "system" in the Fido network is obviously a "sysop". Why shouldn't they have at least read access here?

Nothing "secret" is ever discussed - it's just another chat echo.

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Regards
David

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Nick Andre wrote to Dan Clough <=-

On 06 Jan 22 15:09:00, Dan Clough said the following to Bj*Rn
Felten:

The name of the echo is FidoNet Sysops. Is Lee a FidoNet sysop? No.

Masturbatory sock puppets usually never are...

Heh, yep. I'm thinking maybe Beorn slipped up here and provided another instance of getting caught with his hand up "Lee"'s rectum.

We have a saying over here in the
*really* free world: Information wants to be free. A totally
alien concept in certain corrupt societies, I know...

Your belief is that ALL information should be available to all persons?

Ask him for his banking credentials, Pin numbers, computer
passwords since that information wants to be free...

Whaddya think, Beorn? I'd also like your iPad lock code and your BBS
sysop password. That way I can lock out the "Lee" user. You should
have no objections to providing all this, since you live in a "free"
country.



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David Drummond wrote to Dan Clough <=-

I don't have time to look for a Rules file for the echo, but simple
common sense would indicate that that means *ONLY* FidoNet sysops should have access to even *read* it, much lest post to it.

Anyone operating a "system" in the Fido network is obviously a
"sysop". Why shouldn't they have at least read access here?

Is "Lofaso" operating a system as a sysop? No. He's calling in to a
system as a USER and reading/posting. That's why he shouldn't have
access. He's NOT a Sysop.

Unless, of course, that "Lee" is actually "Bjorn", posting from his
own system. I think this latest slip-up by Bjorn makes that even more
obvious than it may have already been. So, as soon as Bjorn admits
that Lee is his sockpuppet troll toy, nobody will complain about Lee
posting here. We can then just all laugh at the pathetic-ness of it.


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On 06 Jan 22 18:53:00, Dan Clough said the following to David Drummond:

Unless, of course, that "Lee" is actually "Bjorn", posting from his
own system. I think this latest slip-up by Bjorn makes that even more obvious than it may have already been. So, as soon as Bjorn admits

Theres also Lee's long-time weird obsession with Janis, the ZC1 hat and Policy 4 for years... BBS user trolls normally don't do this and I've ran a BBS
since '93. I've seen every stinkin' troll there was. But not someone like
this. BBS trolls normally stick to trolling other users or cheat in doorgames.

A long time ago it was speculated that the initial tone and style of messaging was simular in the Politics echo between those two. Suddenly, that stopped. Then theres the situation that when Bjorn's system goes offline, so does
Lee... you don't see him pop up on anyone else's system or BBS. And if he does, its all newsreader crap that only a tech person cares to get into.

Nick

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Nick Andre wrote to Dan Clough <=-

On 06 Jan 22 18:53:00, Dan Clough said the following to David
Drummond:

Unless, of course, that "Lee" is actually "Bjorn", posting from his
own system. I think this latest slip-up by Bjorn makes that even more obvious than it may have already been. So, as soon as Bjorn admits

Theres also Lee's long-time weird obsession with Janis, the ZC1
hat and Policy 4 for years... BBS user trolls normally don't do
this and I've ran a BBS since '93. I've seen every stinkin' troll
there was. But not someone like this. BBS trolls normally stick
to trolling other users or cheat in doorgames.

A long time ago it was speculated that the initial tone and style
of messaging was simular in the Politics echo between those two.
Suddenly, that stopped. Then theres the situation that when
Bjorn's system goes offline, so does Lee... you don't see him pop
up on anyone else's system or BBS. And if he does, its all
newsreader crap that only a tech person cares to get into.

Yeah. Thanks for the filling-the-gaps info. It's even more obvious
than I thought. Pathetic is the best word that comes to mind.



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Nick Andre wrote to Dan Clough <=-

On 06 Jan 22 18:53:00, Dan Clough said the following to David
Drummond:

Is "Lofaso" operating a system as a sysop? No. He's calling in to a system as a USER and reading/posting. That's why he shouldn't have access. He's NOT a Sysop.

To further add to my other message... I've politely offered Lee a
node number almost to the point of hand-holding. Several times I
think... and every single time theres always some lame excuse
from the puppet. He doesn't want to follow Policy 4, he's
currently on "probation status", or some other weird reason that
drifts from the usual style of Sysop-oriented trolling.

So let see, he's smart enough to debate Policy 4 like a lawyer
(the only troll that reads it) and troll Janis, but when backed
into a corner on the tech, he's suddenly a moron. But again,
morons do not know about newsreaders or use them into 2022 or
that you can do Fido stuff from them and even if Bjorn was
holding his hand, the Sysop-oriented trolling just gives him
away. Every. Single. Time.

Now watch - Soon, one of two things will happen. He will try to
troll me in Fidonews based on the contents of this Sysop-only
echo, with messages to "All" (just like Bjorn used to do all the
time in the 2010's) or he won't say anything because Bjorn will
instruct him or his right hand not to do so.

I'll predict the second scenario. Bjorn will put him to bed for a bit.

Even if none of this was true, even if Bjorn runs a secure
system, some way, somehow, Lee ends up knowing what happens here.
Even if he were to Google the contents of here, that still takes
some techie know-how to really dig up what you're after.

I would have a LOT more respect for Bjorn if he would just admit
the charade.

Same. Somehow I doubt that will happen.

On the other hand I actually respect David Drummond because at
least with him, you know what you're going to get... (a swollen
sheep's anus)

Hehe. Jesus, there's a visual just before bedtime. Thanks.

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Your belief is that ALL information should be available to all persons?

Yes.

If you don't understand the difference between information already made publicly available and ditto that is not, you've just been conditioned not to know that, by your all-controlling government.


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On 06 Jan 22 21:42:00, Dan Clough said the following to Nick Andre:

I would have a LOT more respect for Bjorn if he would just admit
the charade.

Same. Somehow I doubt that will happen.

Anyhow... fun stuff. Hope the new years are going good for you?

Nick
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On 06 Jan 22 18:53:00, Dan Clough said the following to David Drummond:

Is "Lofaso" operating a system as a sysop? No. He's calling in to a system as a USER and reading/posting. That's why he shouldn't have
access. He's NOT a Sysop.

To further add to my other message... I've politely offered Lee a node number almost to the point of hand-holding. Several times I think... and every single time theres always some lame excuse from the puppet. He doesn't want to follow Policy 4, he's currently on "probation status", or some other weird reason that drifts from the usual style of Sysop-oriented trolling.

So let see, he's smart enough to debate Policy 4 like a lawyer (the only troll that reads it) and troll Janis, but when backed into a corner on the tech,
he's suddenly a moron. But again, morons do not know about newsreaders or
use them into 2022 or that you can do Fido stuff from them and even if
Bjorn was holding his hand, the Sysop-oriented trolling just gives him away. Every. Single. Time.

Now watch - Soon, one of two things will happen. He will try to troll me in Fidonews based on the contents of this Sysop-only echo, with messages to "All" (just like Bjorn used to do all the time in the 2010's) or he won't say anything because Bjorn will instruct him or his right hand not to do so.

Even if none of this was true, even if Bjorn runs a secure system, some way, somehow, Lee ends up knowing what happens here. Even if he were to Google the contents of here, that still takes some techie know-how to really dig up what you're after.

I would have a LOT more respect for Bjorn if he would just admit the charade.

On the other hand I actually respect David Drummond because at least with him, you know what you're going to get... (a swollen sheep's anus)

Nick

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Hello Bj”rn,

The moron known as "Lee Lofaso"

Isn't that defamatory? Is that the type of Fidonet you want?

Such name-calling only goes to show he is out of arguments.

I don't give Lee "access" to this echo, I let him, and anyone else interested, read here.

And that is the way it should be. As noted in the official rules
of this echo, there is no prohibition against non-sysops from having
full participation in this echo. That includes having both read and
write access.

I have always played by the rules of this echo. Even though not
everybody in this echo might believe me. But whose fault is that?

We have a saying over here in the *really* free world: Information wants to be free. A totally alien concept in certain corrupt societies, I know...

Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.

--Lee

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Hello Nick,

We have a saying over here in the
*really* free world: Information wants to be free. A totally
alien concept in certain corrupt societies, I know...

Your belief is that ALL information should be available to all persons?

Ask him for his banking credentials, Pin numbers, computer passwords since that information wants to be free...

Everything ought to be free.

--Lee

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Hello David,

I don't have time to look for a Rules file for the echo, but simple
common sense would indicate that that means *ONLY* FidoNet sysops
should have access to even *read* it, much lest post to it.

Anyone operating a "system" in the Fido network is obviously a "sysop". Why shouldn't they have at least read access here?

The rules of this echo do not prohibit read and write access
for anyone (sysop or non-sysop).

Nothing "secret" is ever discussed - it's just another chat echo.

Have you ever used a public urinal when a bunch of other guys
are taking a leak at the same time? Notice how careful all of them
are not to look at another man's weiner. There a reason why ...

--Lee

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Nick Andre wrote to Dan Clough <=-

I would have a LOT more respect for Bjorn if he would just admit
the charade.

Same. Somehow I doubt that will happen.

Anyhow... fun stuff. Hope the new years are going good for you?

Yep, fun but aggravating at the same time. :-)
I guess I'll go back to (mostly) ignoring his gibberish.

All is well here, hope the same for you, and keep up the good work.



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To further add to my other message... I've politely offered Lee a node number almost to the point of hand-holding. Several times I think... and every single
time theres always some lame excuse from the puppet. He doesn't want to follow
Policy 4, he's currently on "probation status", or some other weird reason that drifts from the usual style of Sysop-oriented trolling.

"Janis is out to get him" was another one, I think, and it would no longer apply.

So let see, he's smart enough to debate Policy 4 like a lawyer (the only troll
that reads it)

"Lee" once netmailed me about the FIDO rules to solve disagreements between
two network sysops. I pointed out to him that he was not a network sysop
so they did not apply. I never heard anything back. I suspect that might
have been an "oopsie."


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-= the the entity known as Mike Powell wrote to another entity
known as Nick Andre about something neither of them can understand =-

To further add to my other message... I've politely offered Lee NA>a node

number almost to the point of hand-holding. Several times NA>I think... and
every single time theres always some lame excuse NA>from the puppet. He doesn't want to follow Policy 4, he's currently NA>on "probation status", or some other weird reason that drifts from NA>the usual style of Sysop-oriented trolling.

"Janis is out to get him" was another one, I think, and it would
no longer apply.

Fidonet is not, and has never been, limited to sysops only. As such,
all are welcome to play. Both sysops and probationary sysops alike.

The only criteria for anybody to qualify for obtaining a node number
is to show an ability to send and receive netmail. No other criteria
at all is needed.

Policy 4 is nothing but a piece of cyberjunk that was written by an
unknown number of individuals who were too chickenshit to even sign
their own names, or even to use handles/aliases as names.

Nobody needs P4 in order to send/receive netmail.

The only vote taken by sysops to "ratify" this piece of garbage
was unanimously rejected in Zone 2. Imagine that. Not a single sysop
in Zone 2 voted in favor of ratification.

No other vote was taken in any other Zone.

So why the fuck should any individual (sysop or probationary sysop)
be compelled to regard P4 as Fidonet's "Constitution"?

So let see, he's smart enough to debate Policy 4 like a lawyer (the
only troll that reads it)

"Lee" once netmailed me about the FIDO rules to solve disagreements MP>between two network sysops. I pointed out to him that he was not a MP>network sysop so they did not apply. I never heard anything back.
I suspect that might have been an "oopsie."

The entity known as Mike Powell is welcome to file a policy complaint.
But since the rules do not apply to me, I seriously doubt anybody would
listen. But hey. Maybe he likes the sound of his own voice.

Here is the netmail I sent to Mike Powell, which he never bothered
to respond to -

Hello Mike,

No private echolist has any official status in Fidonet.

The rules are also posted here once a month.

Rules? For a private echolist that has no official status
in Fidonet? You have got to be kidding me.

But hey. You want to talk about rules.
So here they are.
In plain and simple English.
Made official by Fidonet Central -

The FidoNet judicial philosophy can be summed up in two rules:

1) Thou shalt not excessively annoy others.

2) Thou shalt not be too easily annoyed.

In other words, there are no hard and fast rules of conduct, but
reasonably polite behavior is expected. Also, in any dispute both
sides are examined, and action could be taken against either or
both parties. ("Judge not, lest ye be judged!")

[..]

The first step in any dispute between sysops is for the sysops
to attempt to communicate directly, at least by netmail, preferably
by voice. Any complaint made that has skipped this most basic
communication step will be rejected.

-=end of quote=-

Feel free to post any message you want, in the language(s) of
your own choice. Pig Latin seems to be about your level.

--Lee

There you go. The "official" rules of Fidonet. According to P4,
which is *not* recognized by me or anybody else who has a lick of
sense. But hey. The entity known as Mike Powell is free to file
a policy complaint anytime he wants. Not that anybody will listen.

Have a day,
--Lee

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On 07 Jan 22 17:48:00, Mike Powell said the following to Nick Andre:

"Lee" once netmailed me about the FIDO rules to solve disagreements between two network sysops. I pointed out to him that he was not a network sysop so they did not apply. I never heard anything back. I suspect that might have been an "oopsie."

And see his reply to you now. Definately another "oopsie"...

Nick
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Nick Andre wrote to Mike Powell <=-

On 07 Jan 22 17:48:00, Mike Powell said the following to Nick
Andre:

"Lee" once netmailed me about the FIDO rules to solve disagreements

between

two network sysops. I pointed out to him that he was not a network sysop so they did not apply. I never heard anything back. I suspect that might have been an "oopsie."

And see his reply to you now. Definately another "oopsie"...

Yep, Bjorn is on a roll. Perhaps he's been in the sauce?

Perhaps he's being excessively annoying?



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Lee Lofaso wrote to ALL <=-

-= the the entity known as Mike Powell wrote to another entity
known as Nick Andre about something neither of them can
understand =-

To further add to my other message... I've politely offered Lee NA>a node

number almost to the point of hand-holding. Several times NA>I think...

and

every single time theres always some lame excuse NA>from the puppet. He doesn't want to follow Policy 4, he's currently NA>on "probation status", or some other weird reason that drifts from NA>the usual style of Sysop-oriented trolling.

"Janis is out to get him" was another one, I think, and it would
no longer apply.

Fidonet is not, and has never been, limited to sysops only. As
such, all are welcome to play. Both sysops and probationary
sysops alike.

Wrong. Not in sysop-only echos. You are neither a sysop or a
"probationary sysop" (whatever that is), anyway.

You're really slipping up, Bjorn.

<SNIP remaining irrelevant bullshit>



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Wrong. Not in sysop-only echos. You are neither a sysop or a "probationary sysop" (whatever that is), anyway.

May I suggest that you take it up with the moderator? Leave the moderating to the moderator, remember?



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Re: Filegate File Contributors
By: Vincent Coen to Bj”rn Felten on Wed Jan 05 2022 04:01 pm

Hello Bj”rn!

Wednesday January 05 2022 07:42, you wrote to me:

AS many of you might know Janis Kracht has shut down here servers
so five of us have taken over as Star systems with three in North
America, me in Europe and one is Australiasia namely :

Don't you have a dedicated echo for your five person network?

This posting is for ANY one who might be a file contributor and as I do not know what areas they read I have posted it on a few areas that they 'might' reading.

Vincent

Thank you Vince. The folks who hatch files, needed to know this. I caught Rob Swindell (SBBS). He's got a new version just out.

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Mark,

When it's a matter of very limited interest,

apparently that's your problem... there seem to be quite a few people interested in what is going on... it is ok if you don't care, though...
you are allowed that ;)

In Fidonet there have always been collectors of 'stuff', people wanting to have it all just because they could get it without it having any impact on Fidonet operations other than generating flow.

\%/@rd

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Here's a question for you: The moron known as "Lee Lofaso" recently
quoted me in the FidoNews echo, from a post I made in the FidoNet Sysop echo. The question is - why are you allowing him access to that
sysop-only echo? Oh, and I know this because his posts come from your system.

Well, Bjorn is that echo's moderator ...

Do we agree it's a moderators choice wether to allow that or not ... ?

\%/@rd

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"Lee" once netmailed me about the FIDO rules to solve disagreements betwee
two network sysops. I pointed out to him that he was not a network sysop so they did not apply. I never heard anything back. I suspect that might
have been an "oopsie."

And see his reply to you now. Definately another "oopsie"...

Indeed. :)


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Ward Dossche wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Here's a question for you: The moron known as "Lee Lofaso" recently quoted me in the FidoNews echo, from a post I made in the FidoNet Sysop echo. The question is - why are you allowing him access to that sysop-only echo? Oh, and I know this because his posts come from your system.

Well, Bjorn is that echo's moderator ...

Isn't that convenient.

Do we agree it's a moderators choice wether to allow that or not
... ?

Well, yeah. It's just such a childish thing, a game that he plays.
What's the point of it being called a "Sysop" echo if that's not what it
is?

At least it's all out here for the public to see, and know what a twit
Bjorn really is. What a buffoon.



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Dan,

Well, Bjorn is that echo's moderator ...

Isn't that convenient.

His moderator status is a fact, if he allows something, just live with it. There's also the right-arrow key ... I use it often now. Saves a lot on stommach acid.

At least it's all out here for the public to see, and know what a twit Bjorn really is. What a buffoon.

He's been called a lot of things, I've been called a lot of things but he's very big on ABBA and I've seen Queen play Bogemian Rhapsody live.

\%/@rd

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On 7/01/2022 19:57, Lee Lofaso : David Drummond wrote:

 DD>> Nothing "secret" is ever discussed - it's just another chat echo.

Have you ever used a public urinal when a bunch of other guys
are taking a leak at the same time? Notice how careful all of them
are not to look at another man's weiner. There a reason why ...

A FN_SYSOP related reason? If not you cannot mention it here apparently.

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Regards
David

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On 8/01/2022 14:03, Dan Clough : Lee Lofaso wrote:

Wrong.  Not in sysop-only echos.

Luckily this is not one of those exclusive echoes.

--
Regards
David

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Hello David,

Nothing "secret" is ever discussed - it's just another chat echo.

Have you ever used a public urinal when a bunch of other guys
are taking a leak at the same time? Notice how careful all of them
are not to look at another man's weiner. There a reason why ...

A FN_SYSOP related reason? If not you cannot mention it here apparently.

Oh, come now. Stalls are for women.

--Lee

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Lee Lofaso wrote to David Drummond <=-

Have you ever used a public urinal when a bunch of other guys
are taking a leak at the same time? Notice how careful all of them
are not to look at another man's weiner. There a reason why ...

A FN_SYSOP related reason? If not you cannot mention it here apparently.

Oh, come now. Stalls are for women.

Do you sit down when you pee, Bjorn?


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