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  • Pioneer spirit

    From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Alan Ianson on Tue Oct 5 10:53:31 2021
    Hello Alan,

    On Monday October 04 2021 23:30, you wrote to me:

    [IPv6]

    It is the future but IPv6 only is still a ways off for a lot of
    nodes.

    "Way off" is too pessimistic.

    I wouldn't say way off but I think it is a ways off yet.

    ISP's for whatever there reasons are won't budge at this time.

    That depends. Many ISPs offer IPv6, but there are a couple of incumbents that are dragging their feet. :(

    I wonder what happened to that pioneer spirit that once made
    Fidonet florish...

    Nodes are doing what they can with what they have. That has always
    been the case.

    There was a time when Fidonet sysops created ways to make things work that they did not have yet. They didn't wait for others, but took he initiative themsleves. That is how Fidonet was born in the first place. Someone wrote a Fidonet mailer...

    You do not have to wait for Teksavvy to give you IPv6. He.net is still offering 6to4 tunnels for free. You could set up a tunnel and have IPv6. Today...

    Teksavvy... IIRC the late Joe Delahaye had an account with Teksavvy. He had native IPv6. Have you asked Teksavvy about IPv6?


    Cheers, Michiel
    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Alan Ianson on Tue Oct 5 23:17:10 2021
    Hello Alan,

    On Tuesday October 05 2021 04:34, you wrote to me:

    Teksavvy... IIRC the late Joe Delahaye had an account with
    Teksavvy. He had native IPv6. Have you asked Teksavvy about IPv6?

    Yes, Teksavvy does support IPv6 and so does the gear they have
    provided me with although I have never had a chance to see it. My connection to the internet is provided by Shaw Cable and they don't
    put IPv6 on the wire, not here in my town anyway.

    I see. Whois says your IP is issued by Teksavvy. I did not realise it went via Shaw Cable.


    Cheers, Michiel
    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: http://www.vlist.org (2:280/5555)
  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Oct 5 18:15:25 2021
    On 05 Oct 2021, Michiel van der Vlist said the following...

    I see. Whois says your IP is issued by Teksavvy. I did not realise it
    went via Shaw Cable.

    Teksavvy resells internet services from the established telecoms here in Canada. I had Teksavvy for awhile via Rogers cables, but then switched to Rogers proper when their service starting suffering at the beginning of the pandemic. They offer cable service through Rogers, Cogeco & Shaw as well as DSL service through Bell & Telus.

    I believe Teksavvy does offer IPv6 through their DSL service, but the speeds are usually much slower than cable can offer.


    Jay

    ... An unbiased opinion is always absolutely valueless.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/09/29 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Northern Realms (1:229/664)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Alan Ianson on Wed Oct 6 10:10:12 2021
    Hello Alan,

    On Tuesday October 05 2021 17:45, you wrote to me:

    I see. Whois says your IP is issued by Teksavvy. I did not
    realise it went via Shaw Cable.

    Yes. Teksavvy is my ISP. I have a choice of cable or DSL service. I
    might get an IPv6 address with DSL service that would come from Telus
    but I don't have the service or hardware to look closer at that.

    How about getting the service directly from Shaw? I see in the list op IPv6 nodes that Dallas Hinton, 1:153/7715 has native IPv6 from SHAW communications.


    Cheers, Michiel
    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: http://www.vlist.org (2:280/5555)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Alan Ianson on Wed Oct 6 12:25:44 2021
    Alan,

    I can't justify the added $480/year price tag.

    Odd, it's standard included here. In the beginnig I didn't even know I had it.

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Sep 03 2021
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Ward Dossche on Wed Oct 6 13:39:24 2021
    Hello Ward,

    On Wednesday October 06 2021 12:25, you wrote to Alan Ianson:

    I can't justify the added $480/year price tag.

    Odd, it's standard included here.

    I think Alan is referring to the price difference between Teksavvy and Shaw cable. Not an extra for IPv6.

    In the beginnig I didn't even know I had it.

    ISPs that are introducing IPv6 often claim the transfer will be "invisible" for the ordinary user.

    Hence my assumption that there are Fidonet systems that can make outgoing IPv6 calls without the sysop being aware of it.


    Cheers, Michiel
    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: http://www.vlist.org (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Alan Ianson on Wed Oct 6 14:32:18 2021
    Hello Alan,

    On Wednesday October 06 2021 02:55, you wrote to me:

    The services they offer now are quite a bit faster, they are all in
    the gigabit range and start at a little over $100/month.

    Expensive...

    While it is much faster than what I have I am not sure if I need those speeds or if I would get IPv6.

    I can't justify the added $480/year price tag.

    Understandable. I would not pay that either for a speed upgrade. Here Delta Fiber is coming with a Fiber connection of 1.5 GB down AND up for EUR 60/month. But I do not need that speed. Yet...



    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: http://www.vlist.org (2:280/5555)