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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.1 to Fidotest on Sun Aug 1 09:18:49 2021
    01 Aug 2021 00:00, you wrote to Everyone:

    @MSGID: 2:221/1 6105b9d3
    [...]

    Nice... but no TZUTC kludge.

    Carlos

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Carlos Navarro on Sun Aug 1 20:13:18 2021
    @MSGID: 2:221/1 6105b9d3
    [...]

    Nice... but no TZUTC kludge.

    As if that's really meaningful.

    \%/@rd

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Fidotest on Sun Aug 1 20:16:37 2021
    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    Pretty insignificant information ...

    \%/@rd

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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.1 to Ward Dossche on Sun Aug 1 21:52:49 2021
    01 Aug 2021 20:13, you wrote to me:

    Nice... but no TZUTC kludge.

    As if that's really meaningful.

    Perhaps not so much in a robot message like that, but IMO for normal discussion it is.

    Carlos

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Carlos Navarro on Mon Aug 2 00:15:46 2021

    Nice... but no TZUTC kludge.

    As if that's really meaningful.

    Perhaps not so much in a robot message like that, but IMO for normal discussion it is.

    I fail to see it, Carlos.

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Jul 07 2021
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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.1 to Ward Dossche on Mon Aug 2 10:29:36 2021
    02 Aug 2021 00:15, you wrote to me:

    Nice... but no TZUTC kludge.

    As if that's really meaningful.

    Perhaps not so much in a robot message like that, but IMO for
    normal discussion it is.

    I fail to see it, Carlos.

    Properly sorted messages when ordering by date in your editor/viewer, for example.

    Carlos

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Carlos Navarro on Mon Aug 2 10:44:03 2021
    I fail to see it, Carlos.

    Properly sorted messages when ordering by date in your editor/viewer, for example.

    30+ years into Fidonet and haven't felt the need once.

    \%/@rd
    --- DB4 - Jul 07 2021
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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.1 to Ward Dossche on Tue Aug 3 08:12:55 2021
    02 Aug 2021 10:44, you wrote to me:

    I fail to see it, Carlos.

    Properly sorted messages when ordering by date in your
    editor/viewer, for example.

    30+ years into Fidonet and haven't felt the need once.

    Perhaps you don't even need the date field at all. :-)

    I am also used to viewing messages in toss order. But especially with the NADS, replies may arrive to a system before the replied-to messages. I'd prefer to be able to view them properly sorted and I think that it would look better for (potential) users in applications that allow this.

    I suppose that you have discussed this before. Is there some reason why you don't want the TZUTC kludge?

    Carlos

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384.125 to Carlos Navarro on Tue Aug 3 16:58:43 2021
    Hola! Carlos,

    On 08/03/2021 04:12 PM, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

    I fail to see it, Carlos.
    [ ...snipped... ]
    I suppose that you have discussed this before. Is there some reason why you don't want the TZUTC kludge?

    This exchange may be a running joke on the part of Ward, based on the imprecision of the English language. Recall that all kludges have a common inherent attribute: they are -hidden- from normal view.

    So, when he says that he 'fails to see it' then possibly he cannot, or will not, or does not, view kludges. For me, not seeing kludges would be akin to being colour blind.

    Hasta,
    Paul.

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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.1 to Paul Quinn on Tue Aug 3 12:05:07 2021
    03 Aug 2021 16:58, you wrote to me:

    Hola! Carlos,

    G'day Paul!

    I fail to see it, Carlos.
    [ ...snipped... ]
    I suppose that you have discussed this before. Is there some
    reason why you don't want the TZUTC kludge?

    This exchange may be a running joke on the part of Ward, based on the imprecision of the English language. Recall that all kludges have a common inherent attribute: they are -hidden- from normal view.

    So, when he says that he 'fails to see it' then possibly he cannot, or will not, or does not, view kludges. For me, not seeing kludges would
    be akin to being colour blind.

    I know that Ward is a 'cachondo', :-) but I don't think he was making a joke with this.

    Anyway, in this message of yours, I see that Golded is showing me your local time. It looks to me like coming from the future.

    I thought that it was smart enough to use your TZUTC kludge and show me the 'real' time for my timezone. And I see that it happens the same with other editors/viewers... :-S

    I had assumed that this kludge was used by FTN software and not just something informative. :-/

    Hasta,
    ...luego. :-)
    Paul.

    Carlos

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Carlos Navarro on Tue Aug 3 12:47:11 2021
    Carlos,

    I suppose that you have discussed this before. Is there some reason why
    you don't want the TZUTC kludge?
    """""""""""""

    Have I ever stated that?

    \%/@rd
    --- DB4 - Jul 07 2021
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to Carlos Navarro on Tue Aug 3 20:41:05 2021
    Hi! Carlos,

    On 03 Aug 2021, Carlos Navarro said the following...

    @TZUTC: 0200

    Anyway, in this message of yours, I see that Golded is showing me your local time. It looks to me like coming from the future.

    Yes, they are. Eight hours ahead of your clocks. I'm Australian.

    CN> I had assumed that this kludge was used by FTN
    CN> software and not just CN> something informative. :-/

    It should be. But the Fidonet creator ghods didn't see the point when they were communicating only in the USA. In this era we should have message dates using UTC, and TZUTC values for ourselves, in order to calculate various time values for us (informational only).

    In the least, we need only use UTC times. At the moment we have no idea what time the times actually indicate. I liked telex in an old job; this message would be approximately dated as 031040ZAUG21. Add your TZUTC to that for
    your local time.

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Carlos Navarro on Tue Aug 3 12:27:00 2021
    Hello Carlos,

    On Tuesday August 03 2021 12:05, you wrote to Paul Quinn:

    Anyway, in this message of yours, I see that Golded is showing me your local time. It looks to me like coming from the future.

    I have been a HAM for 50+ years and from the very beginning I always used GMT (as it was called back then) for my logs (compulsory back then) and for exchanging written confirmations called QSL cards. HAM radio is a global thing, so using GMT or UTC is the logical thing to do. I even had a clock in my shack that showed GMT.

    With that background information, I think using local time in Fidonet was a design flaw. Fidonet, like HAM radio is a globe spanning activity. Even in its country of origin, the USA, it spanned more than one time zone from the beginning.

    Time information in Fidonet should have been in UTC, not local time. For additional information a TZLOC kludge could have been used.


    Cheers, Michiel
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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.1234 to Ward Dossche on Tue Aug 3 14:51:56 2021
    Hi Ward,

    I suppose that you have discussed this before. Is there some reason why
    you don't want the TZUTC kludge?
    """""""""""""

    Have I ever stated that?

    Ok, I should have written "use" or "have", not "want".

    Carlos
    --- AfterShock/Android 1.6.8
    * Origin: Costa Blanca, Spain (2:341/234.1234)
  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.1 to Paul Quinn on Wed Aug 4 16:38:17 2021
    03 Aug 2021 20:41, you wrote to me:

    @TZUTC: 0200

    Anyway, in this message of yours, I see that Golded is showing me
    your local time. It looks to me like coming from the future.

    Yes, they are. Eight hours ahead of your clocks. I'm Australian.

    I know... well, actually I only knew you were in Australia. :-) I had checked the nodelist to find out what your TZ should be when I saw some message you posted before with Golded that, BTW, didn't have the TZUTC kludge.

    I had assumed that this kludge was used by FTN
    software and not just CN> something informative. :-/

    It should be. But the Fidonet creator ghods didn't see the point when they were communicating only in the USA. In this era we should have message dates using UTC, and TZUTC values for ourselves, in order to calculate various time values for us (informational only).

    Anyway, the way it is, software can calculate the UTC date if the TZUTC kludge is present. In fact it seems that your T-Bird shows dates to you converted to your local time. In your previous reply you had this:

    "On 08/03/2021 04:12 PM, you wrote to Ward Dossche"
    ^^
    and the local time of my message was 8:12 AM.

    I've checked several Jamnttpd servers and my T-bird shows different times for the same message: one shows the original local timestamp, another one converted for my timezone... I suppose that it depends on how it's configured or something. I'll check again later.

    Carlos

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Carlos Navarro on Wed Aug 4 23:13:59 2021
    Carlos,

    Ok, I should have written "use" or "have", not "want".

    How are we doing so far? After all, you're my favourite Spaniard ... :-)

    \%/@rd
    --- DB4 - Jul 07 2021
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384.125 to Carlos Navarro on Thu Aug 5 09:23:32 2021
    Hi! Carlos,

    On 08/05/2021 12:38 AM, you wrote:

    I know... well, actually I only knew you were in Australia. :-) I had checked the nodelist to find out what your TZ should be when I saw some message you posted before with Golded that, BTW, didn't have the TZUTC kludge.

    That's probably Golded 1.1.4.7, and maybe why there's a version 1.1.5 now. ;)

    Anyway, the way it is, software can calculate the UTC date if the TZUTC kludge is present. In fact it seems that your T-Bird shows dates to you converted to your local time. In your previous reply you had this:

    Yes, I've seen that conversion (it is a very old version too, BTW).

    "On 08/03/2021 04:12 PM, you wrote to Ward Dossche"
    ^^
    and the local time of my message was 8:12 AM.

    I just waited till a civilized time for you to catch the note. :)

    I've checked several Jamnttpd servers and my T-bird shows different
    times for the same message: one shows the original local timestamp, another one converted for my timezone... I suppose that it depends on
    how it's configured or something. I'll check again later.

    Yes, it usually shows my local AEST. I used version JamNNTPd 1.0 for the longest time on both Windows (no longer running) and this Linux. Now I have a personal edit of version 1.3, using modifications suggested by Mark Lewis (1:3634/12, who is conspicuous by his absence in recent times).

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Brother Rabbit@2:460/256 to August Abolins on Thu Aug 5 14:17:11 2021
    Hi, August!

    Is your goal to strip out the 3rd(+) level of quoting on the path from Telegram to Fido? That's pretty good and reduces the clutter.

    Yes. You are right.

    Have a nice carrot!
    Brother Rabbit.

    ... A good companion not only listens attentively, but pours the drink on time --- Use "%UserProfile %Tearline text" to customize tearline.
    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS from Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/256)
  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Brother Rabbit on Thu Aug 5 09:12:00 2021
    Hello Brother Rabbit!

    ** On Thursday 05.08.21 - 14:17, Brother Rabbit wrote to August Abolins:

    Hi, August!

    Is your goal to strip out the 3rd(+) level of quoting on the path from
    Telegram to Fido? That's pretty good and reduces the clutter.

    Yes. You are right.

    The reply system is not looking right in the LITRPG echo.

    --
    ../|ug

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  • From Brother Rabbit@2:460/256 to August Abolins on Thu Aug 5 18:48:38 2021
    Hi, August!

    Hello Brother Rabbit!
    ** On Thursday 05.08.21 - 14:17, Brother Rabbit wrote to August Abolins: The reply system is not looking right in the LITRPG echo.
    --
    ../|ug

    Is it still bad now, or a little better?

    Have a nice carrot!
    Brother Rabbit.

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  • From August Abolins@2:460/256 to Brother Rabbit on Thu Aug 5 20:29:15 2021
    Hi Brother,
    ...Greets from my Telegram app!

    Is it still bad now, or a little better?

    I just replied to one in that echo. We shall see.

    Ciao!
    /|ug (https://t.me/aabolins)

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  • From Brother Rabbit@2:460/256 to August Abolins on Thu Aug 5 22:34:45 2021
    Hi, August!

    I just replied to one in that echo. We shall see.

    Good. Let's watch.

    Have a nice carrot!
    Brother Rabbit.

    ... A good companion not only listens attentively, but pours the drink on time --- Use "%UserProfile %Tearline text" to customize tearline.
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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.1 to Paul Quinn on Thu Aug 5 23:01:17 2021
    05 Aug 2021 09:23, you wrote to me:

    I saw some message you posted before with Golded that, BTW,
    didn't have the TZUTC kludge.

    That's probably Golded 1.1.4.7, and maybe why there's a version 1.1.5
    now. ;)

    I've seen in the github repo that the USETZUTC setting was disabled by default until 1.1.5, so it may work for you if you add 'USETZUTC Yes' to your cfg.

    I just waited till a civilized time for you to catch the note. :)

    Don't worry, I disabled the sound for my Fido-notifications. :-)

    Carlos

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  • From Brother Rabbit@2:460/256 to Carlos Navarro on Fri Aug 6 00:51:47 2021
    Hi, Carlos!

    05 Aug 2021 09:23, you wrote to me:
    I've seen in the github repo that the USETZUTC setting was disabled by default until 1.1.5, so it may work for you if you add 'USETZUTC Yes' to your cfg.
    Don't worry, I disabled the sound for my Fido-notifications. :-)
    Carlos

    Cool. ;)

    Have a nice carrot!
    Brother Rabbit.

    ... A good companion not only listens attentively, but pours the drink on time --- Use "%UserProfile %Tearline text" to customize tearline.
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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Aug 8 09:09:09 2021
    03 Aug 2021 12:27, you wrote to me:

    I have been a HAM for 50+ years and from the very beginning I always
    used GMT (as it was called back then) for my logs (compulsory back
    then) and for exchanging written confirmations called QSL cards. HAM
    radio is a global thing, so using GMT or UTC is the logical thing to
    do. I even had a clock in my shack that showed GMT.

    A different beginning...

    With that background information, I think using local time in Fidonet
    was a design flaw. Fidonet, like HAM radio is a globe spanning
    activity. Even in its country of origin, the USA, it spanned more than
    one time zone from the beginning.

    I suppose that they didn't think it would expand so much. Or they just didn't think too much about this. :-)

    Time information in Fidonet should have been in UTC, not local time.
    For additional information a TZLOC kludge could have been used.

    I think I've read some discussions about this in FTSC_PUBLIC time ago, but I know it's difficult, if not impossible, to make some changes like this in Fidonet.

    Anyway with TZUTC, though maybe a bit kludgy, you can get the same result (obtaining the UTC time) if the software supports this. But other than Jamnntpd, no idea what editors or packages do (I'm testing several ones, little by little)

    Carlos

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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.1 to Ward Dossche on Sun Aug 8 09:04:42 2021
    04 Aug 2021 23:13, you wrote to me:

    How are we doing so far? After all, you're my favourite Spaniard ...
    :-)

    A bit hot over here, though we've had worse summers.

    I'm honoured... I suppose.

    Carlos

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Carlos Navarro on Sun Aug 8 13:59:42 2021
    Hello Carlos,

    On Sunday August 08 2021 09:09, you wrote to me:

    I have been a HAM for 50+ years and from the very beginning I always
    used GMT (as it was called back then) for my logs (compulsory back
    then) and for exchanging written confirmations called QSL cards. HAM
    radio is a global thing, so using GMT or UTC is the logical thing to
    do. I even had a clock in my shack that showed GMT.

    A different beginning...

    I am not the only HAM in Fidonet. There has always been - and still is to a point - a large overlap between de HAM community and Fidonet. TJ is not a HAM, but there must have been HAMS in the first nodelist.

    With that background information, I think using local time in Fidonet
    was a design flaw. Fidonet, like HAM radio is a globe spanning
    activity. Even in its country of origin, the USA, it spanned more
    than one time zone from the beginning.

    I suppose that they didn't think it would expand so much. Or they just didn't think too much about this. :-)

    Maybe. Or maybe they considered GMT a "European thing". Like meters and kilograms. So they ignored it...

    Time information in Fidonet should have been in UTC, not local time.
    For additional information a TZLOC kludge could have been used.

    I think I've read some discussions about this in FTSC_PUBLIC time ago,
    but I know it's difficult, if not impossible, to make some changes
    like this in Fidonet.

    I have been the FTSC chairman for over a decade. I know how difficult it is to make such changes. We have no time machines. Ever so often one just has to live with the consequences of unfortunate choices made in the past and make the best of it.

    Anyway with TZUTC, though maybe a bit kludgy, you can get the same
    result (obtaining the UTC time) if the software supports this. But
    other than Jamnntpd, no idea what editors or packages do (I'm testing several ones, little by little)

    It is not to late to update Golded. It is open source...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Carlos Navarro on Sun Aug 8 15:56:03 2021
    Carlos,

    I suppose that they didn't think it would expand so much. Or they just didn't think too much about this. :-)

    The latter, but 35-40 years later everyone's an expert.

    They also messed the region-numbering for example.

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Jul 07 2021
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to MICHIEL VAN DER VLIST on Sun Aug 8 10:09:00 2021
    I suppose that they didn't think it would expand so much. Or they just didn't think too much about this. :-)

    Maybe. Or maybe they considered GMT a "European thing". Like meters and kilogra
    s. So they ignored it...

    Several of the offices involved in weather reporting have used it for years. However, the general US public has enough trouble figuring out the time
    zones in the mainland US these days. They taught us about why there are
    time zones, what GMT is, etc., in school. I guess they don't teach that
    any more. In my experience, many people cannot even understand a 24 hour clock.

    Mike


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  • From Marc Lewis@1:396/45 to Mike Powell on Sun Aug 8 09:45:03 2021
    Hello Mike.

    <On 08Aug2021 10:09 Mike Powell (1:2320/105) wrote a message to MICHIEL VAN DER VLIST regarding TZUTC >

    Maybe. Or maybe they considered GMT a "European thing". Like meters
    and kilograms. So they ignored it...

    Several of the offices involved in weather reporting have used it
    for years. However, the general US public has enough trouble
    figuring out the time zones in the mainland US these days. They
    taught us about why there are time zones, what GMT is, etc., in
    school. I guess they don't teach that any more. In my experience,
    many people cannot even understand a 24 hour clock.

    Mike, I'm afraid you're right. I don't believe they teach anything relative to time in school any longer... For that matter, I don't believe they teach much of anything worthwhile now-a-days. I grew up with the 24 hour clock in my family and still keep time like that - even on my wristwatch. Amazing ignorance.

    Best regards,
    Marc

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Mike Powell on Sun Aug 8 16:46:25 2021
    Hello Mike,

    On Sunday August 08 2021 10:09, you wrote to me:

    Maybe. Or maybe they considered GMT a "European thing". Like meters
    and kilogra s. So they ignored it...

    Several of the offices involved in weather reporting have used it for years. However, the general US public has enough trouble figuring out
    the time zones in the mainland US these days.

    A Fidonet sysop is not representative for the general US public would you not say?

    They taught us about why there are time zones, what GMT is, etc., in school. I guess they don't teach that any more. In my experience,
    many people cannot even understand a 24 hour clock.

    24 hour clocks are in general use here. Digital clocks are almost always configured for 24 hour format. Broadcast guides are in 24 hour format. Public transport uses 24 hour format for the time tables.


    Cheers, Michiel
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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.1 to Ward Dossche on Mon Aug 9 11:46:38 2021
    08 Aug 2021 15:56, you wrote to me:

    They also messed the region-numbering for example.

    Do you mean that net numbers are not related to region numbers, like in z2 (mostly) and z4?

    Carlos

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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Aug 9 11:51:42 2021
    08 Aug 2021 13:59, you wrote to me:

    Maybe. Or maybe they considered GMT a "European thing". Like meters
    and kilograms. So they ignored it...

    :-)

    Anyway with TZUTC, though maybe a bit kludgy, you can get the
    same result (obtaining the UTC time) if the software supports
    this. But other than Jamnntpd, no idea what editors or packages
    do (I'm testing several ones, little by little)

    It is not to late to update Golded. It is open source...

    True. That's great.

    Carlos

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Costa Blanca, Spain (2:341/234.1)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Carlos Navarro on Mon Aug 9 13:15:57 2021
    They also messed the region-numbering for example.

    Do you mean that net numbers are not related to region numbers, like in
    z2 (mostly) and z4?

    It would have made a lot of sense to use the CCITT-numbering scheme as region numbers ... but the founding fathers in all their wisdom had no clue ...

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Jul 07 2021
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to MICHIEL VAN DER VLIST on Mon Aug 9 11:08:00 2021
    Maybe. Or maybe they considered GMT a "European thing". Like meters
    and kilogra s. So they ignored it...

    Several of the offices involved in weather reporting have used it for years. However, the general US public has enough trouble figuring out the time zones in the mainland US these days.

    A Fidonet sysop is not representative for the general US public would you not s
    y?

    I would suspect not. :)

    24 hour clocks are in general use here. Digital clocks are almost always config
    red for 24 hour format. Broadcast guides are in 24 hour format. Public transpor
    uses 24 hour format for the time tables.

    Here, AM and PM are more popular. If a clock I have supports it, it
    reports in 24 hour format. Makes doing math using time much easier.

    Mike


    * SLMR 2.1a * What do you mean, QWK?? It took me over an hour to read!!
    --- SBBSecho 3.12-Linux
    * Origin: capitolcityonline.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/HTTP (1:2320/105)
  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.1 to Ward Dossche on Tue Aug 10 22:13:06 2021
    09 Aug 2021 13:15, you wrote to me:

    It would have made a lot of sense to use the CCITT-numbering scheme as region numbers ... but the founding fathers in all their wisdom had no clue ...

    Maybe if/when zones are merged... :-)

    Carlos

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Costa Blanca, Spain (2:341/234.1)
  • From Fidotest@2:221/1 to Everyone on Wed Sep 1 00:00:00 2021

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    221/1
    + 301/1
    | L 250/1
    + 280/464
    | + 292/854
    | + 770/1
    | | + 317/3
    | | | L 88/1
    | | + 770/100
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    | | L 229/426
    | | + 342/200
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    | | + 90/1
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    | | + 249/307
    | | + 14/0
    | | | L 298/25
    | | | L 154/154
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    | + 396/45
    | | L 19/33
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    | | + 460/256
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    | + 240/5832
    | | L 320/219
    | | L 142/103
    | L 103/705
    | L 218/700
    + 221/6
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    | + 5020/1042
    | | + 467/888
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    | | L 116/18
    | L 218/840
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    | L 3634/12
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    | L 2320/105
    + 240/1120
    | L 371/0
    | L 371/52
    + 280/5555
    L 203/0
    L 201/0
    L 201/137


    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/1.0)
  • From Fidotest@2:221/1 to Everyone on Fri Oct 1 00:00:02 2021

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    221/1
    + 221/6
    | + 153/757
    | | L 261/38
    | | + 116/18
    | | L 266/512
    | | L 266/420
    | + 218/840
    | | L 218/700
    | | L 218/860
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    | | L 229/426
    | | L 105/81
    | + 341/66
    | | L 341/234
    | + 154/10
    | | L 2320/105
    | | L 2320/33
    | L 280/5555
    | L 203/0
    | L 320/219
    | L 142/103
    + 280/464
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    | | L 801/188
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    | + 310/31
    | + 712/848
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    | L 460/256
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    | L 371/0
    | L 371/52
    + 640/1384
    | L 3634/12
    | L 14/5
    + 320/119
    + 221/360
    L 221/10


    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/1.0)
  • From Fidotest@2:221/1 to Everyone on Mon Nov 1 00:00:06 2021

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    221/1
    + 320/219
    | L 142/103
    + 203/0
    | L 280/5555
    + 221/6
    | + 153/757
    | | + 280/464
    | | | + 341/234
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    | | | + 770/100
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    | | | L 267/118
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    | L 2320/105
    | L 2320/33
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    + 240/1120
    | L 371/0
    | L 371/52
    + 221/360
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    L 221/6000


    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/1.0)
  • From Fidotest@2:221/1 to Everyone on Wed Dec 1 00:00:04 2021

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    221/1
    + 640/1384
    | + 3634/12
    | L 712/848
    | L 261/38
    | + 116/18
    | L 266/512
    | + 267/310
    | L 267/311
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    | + 396/45
    | | L 387/28
    | + 341/234
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    | L 103/705
    | L 218/700
    + 280/5555
    | L 301/1
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    | L 80/1
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    | L 221/6
    | + 153/757
    | + 218/840
    | | L 770/1
    | | + 317/3
    | | | L 229/426
    | | | L 229/664
    | | L 772/210
    | + 5020/1042
    | L 341/66
    + 240/1120
    | L 371/0
    | L 371/52
    + 320/219
    + 203/0
    | L 154/10
    | L 2320/105
    | L 2320/33
    L 280/5003


    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/1.0)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Fidotest on Tue Nov 30 23:18:05 2021
    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    Is it OK to doubt the accuracy of this information?

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Nov 27 2021
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Fidotest@2:221/1 to Everyone on Tue Feb 1 00:00:02 2022

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    221/1
    + 640/1384
    + 221/6
    | + 335/364
    | | L 333/808
    | + 460/58
    | | + 280/464
    | | | + 154/10
    | | | | + 2320/105
    | | | | + 226/18
    | | | | L 129/215
    | | | + 310/31
    | | | + 203/0
    | | | | L 201/0
    | | | | L 201/137
    | | | + 770/1
    | | | | + 770/100
    | | | | + 317/3
    | | | | | + 298/25
    | | | | | | + 298/26
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    | | | | | | + 298/30
    | | | | | | + 298/35
    | | | | | | + 298/34
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    | | | | | + 2320/33
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    | | | | | + 153/7715
    | | | | | + 129/330
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    | | | + 301/1
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    | | | + 103/705
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    | | | | L 214/23
    | | | + 396/45
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    | | | L 341/234
    | | + 460/256
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    | + 153/757
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    | | + 920/1
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    | | + 5000/111
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    | + 382/147
    | L 371/0
    | L 371/52
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    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/1.0)
  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Fidotest on Mon Jan 31 22:55:43 2022
    Hello Fidotest!

    Tuesday February 01 2022 00:00, you wrote to Everyone:

    @MSGID: 2:221/1 61f85be3
    @TID: txt2pkt/lnx 1.9 2022-01-23

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    Hmm, does seem to be missing some, me at least.

    221/1
    + 640/1384
    + 221/6
    | + 335/364
    | | L 333/808
    | + 460/58
    | | + 280/464
    | | | + 154/10
    | | | | + 2320/105
    | | | | + 226/18
    | | | | L 129/215
    | | | + 310/31
    | | | + 203/0
    | | | | L 201/0
    | | | | L 201/137
    | | | + 770/1
    | | | | + 770/100
    | | | | + 317/3
    | | | | | + 298/25
    | | | | | | + 298/26
    | | | | | | + 298/27
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    | | | | | | + 298/30
    | | | | | | + 298/35
    | | | | | | + 298/34
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    | | | | | L 229/426
    | | | | | + 2320/33
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    | | | | | + 153/7715
    | | | | | + 129/330
    | | | | | L 105/81
    | | | | | L 105/500
    | | | | L 633/280
    | | | + 301/1
    | | | | L 250/1
    | | | + 103/705
    | | | | L 218/700
    | | | | L 214/22
    | | | | L 214/23
    | | | + 396/45
    | | | | L 130/230
    | | | L 341/234
    | | + 460/256
    | | L 460/5858
    | + 153/757
    | | + 267/67
    | | + 920/1
    | | L 153/141
    | + 280/5555
    | + 5020/1042
    | | + 3634/12
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    | | | | L 116/110
    | | | | + 229/470
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    | | | L 275/1000
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    | | L 5020/4441
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    | L 4500/1
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    + 240/1120
    | + 382/147
    | L 371/0
    | L 371/52
    + 292/854
    + 134/101
    L 221/360



    SEEN-BY: 1/120 14/5 18/0 19/10 25/0 21 116/116 123/0 25 115 160 180
    190 200
    SEEN-BY: 123/755 134/101 135/300 153/7715 154/10 203/0 221/0 1 6 360
    222/2
    SEEN-BY: 240/1120 250/0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 21 261/1466 263/0 275/1000 280/464
    SEEN-BY: 280/5003 5555 292/854 299/6 301/1 320/119 219 423/81 640/1138
    1321
    SEEN-BY: 640/1384 712/848 3634/0 12 15 24 27 50 119 5020/1042
    @PATH: 221/1 640/1384 3634/12 250/1

    Vincent

    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.7.24/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)
  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Vincent Coen on Mon Jan 31 22:17:00 2022
    Hello Vincent Coen!

    ** On Monday 31.01.22 - 22:55, Vincent Coen wrote to Fidotest:

    Hmm, does seem to be missing some, me at least.

    221/1
    + 640/1384
    + 221/6
    | + 335/364
    | | L 333/808
    | + 460/58
    | | + 280/464
    | | | + 154/10
    | | | | + 2320/105
    | | | | + 226/18
    | | | | L 129/215
    | | | + 310/31
    | | | + 203/0
    | | | | L 201/0
    | | | | L 201/137
    | | | + 770/1
    | | | | + 770/100
    | | | | + 317/3
    | | | | | + 298/25
    | | | | | | + 298/26
    | | | | | | + 298/27
    | | | | | | + 298/28
    | | | | | | + 298/30
    | | | | | | + 298/35
    | | | | | | + 298/34
    | | | | | | L 298/33
    | | | | | L 229/426
    | | | | | + 2320/33
    | | | | | + 229/110
    | | | | | + 153/7715
    | | | | | + 129/330
    | | | | | L 105/81
    | | | | | L 105/500
    | | | | L 633/280
    | | | + 301/1
    | | | | L 250/1 <==== YOU ARE HERE. ;)


    + Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: The ONLY point that matters --> . <-- (1:153/757.21)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Fidotest on Tue Feb 1 09:09:03 2022
    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    221/1
    ...
    + 292/854

    PATH: 310/31 280/464 292/854

    Hmmmmmm ??

    --- DB4 - Jan 26 2022
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Vincent Coen on Tue Feb 1 09:13:38 2022
    Vince,

    Hmm, does seem to be missing some, me at least.

    Been drinking cheap Whisky again ? 8-)

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Jan 26 2022
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Ward Dossche on Tue Feb 1 15:39:48 2022
    Hi, Ward!

    01 䥢 22 09:13, Ward Dossche -> Vincent Coen:

    Hmm, does seem to be missing some, me at least.

    Been drinking cheap Whisky again ? 8-)

    And what will changes if been drinking twelve-year-old brandy? ;)

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    ---   ª èã ¢ £®«®¢¥ å®à®è® ¡¥£ãâ â à ª ­ë.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Ward Dossche on Tue Feb 1 12:52:44 2022
    Hello Ward!

    Tuesday February 01 2022 09:13, you wrote to me:

    Vince,

    Hmm, does seem to be missing some, me at least.

    Been drinking cheap Whisky again ? 8-)

    Only because the path shown is totally wrong compared to the actual msg path as
    received.

    There's testing and then again Testing!

    Vincent

    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.7.24/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Stas Mishchenkov on Tue Feb 1 13:56:01 2022
    Stas,

    Been drinking cheap Whisky again ? 8-)

    And what will changes if been drinking twelve-year-old brandy? ;)

    Your nuts will shrivel and shrink ...

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Jan 26 2022
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Ward Dossche on Tue Feb 1 18:37:14 2022
    Hi, Ward!

    01 䥢 22 13:56, Ward Dossche -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    Been drinking cheap Whisky again ? 8-)

    And what will changes if been drinking twelve-year-old brandy? ;)

    Your nuts will shrivel and shrink ...

    Steel can't do that, even in the cold. ;)

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- ‚áñ, çâ® âë å®ç¥èì, ­ å®¤¨âáï ­  ®¡à â­®© áâ®à®­¥ áâà å .
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Vincent Coen on Wed Feb 2 08:52:32 2022

    On 2022 Jan 31 22:55:42, you wrote to Fidotest:

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    Hmm, does seem to be missing some, me at least.

    unless i'm mistaken, these types of lists can only be taken from the PATH lines in messages received at the reporting system... if your system did not post any messages in here during the reporting time, then your system will not appear unless it is in the route to another system that did have traffic posted...

    )\/(ark

    "The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"
    ... Damn aliens!! Get yer ship off'n my wheat field!!!
    ---
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to mark lewis on Wed Feb 2 16:02:53 2022
    Hello mark!

    Wednesday February 02 2022 08:52, you wrote to me:


    On 2022 Jan 31 22:55:42, you wrote to Fidotest:

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    Hmm, does seem to be missing some, me at least.

    unless i'm mistaken, these types of lists can only be taken from the
    PATH lines in messages received at the reporting system... if your
    system did not post any messages in here during the reporting time,
    then your system will not appear unless it is in the route to another
    system that did have traffic posted...

    That makes sense but the seenby lines should show it.



    Vincent

    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.7.24/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Vincent Coen on Thu Feb 3 06:52:50 2022

    On 2022 Feb 02 16:02:52, you wrote to me:

    unless i'm mistaken, these types of lists can only be taken from the
    PATH lines in messages received at the reporting system... if your
    system did not post any messages in here during the reporting time,
    then your system will not appear unless it is in the route to another
    system that did have traffic posted...

    That makes sense but the seenby lines should show it.

    seenby lines are not considered... they really cannot be as they contain only addresses and no path flow information...

    )\/(ark

    "The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"
    ... You can't bring unregistered shareware into heaven.
    ---
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
  • From Fidotest@2:221/1 to Everyone on Tue Mar 1 00:00:02 2022

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    221/1
    + 640/1384
    | L 3634/12
    | + 275/1000
    | + 250/1
    | | + 250/8
    | | L 250/11
    | + 153/7715
    | | + 640/1321
    | | | + 116/110
    | | | | L 116/17
    | | | L 135/393
    | | L 229/426
    | | + 266/512
    | | | L 266/420
    | | + 342/200
    | | | L 342/201
    | | + 229/307
    | | + 229/110
    | | + 229/700
    | | L 90/1
    | | L 900/108
    | L 123/115
    + 280/464
    | + 292/854
    | + 770/1
    | | + 770/100
    | | + 317/3
    | | | L 298/25
    | | | + 14/0
    | | | L 298/26
    | | | + 298/31
    | | | L 14/25
    | | L 633/280
    | + 460/58
    | | + 460/5858
    | | L 460/256
    | + 203/0
    | | + 201/0
    | | | L 201/137
    | | L 320/219
    | | L 325/304
    | + 341/234
    | + 310/31
    | + 154/10
    | | L 2320/105
    | | + 2320/33
    | | L 2320/998
    | + 396/45
    | | + 130/230
    | | L 130/330
    | L 2452/250
    + 221/6
    | + 153/757
    | | L 920/1
    | + 218/840
    | + 341/66
    | L 280/5555
    + 240/1120
    | L 371/0
    | L 371/52
    + 301/1
    | + 5020/1042
    | | L 5020/4441
    | | L 5030/1081
    | + 301/123
    | + 103/705
    | | L 218/700
    | | + 214/22
    | | | L 214/23
    | | L 218/650
    | L 92/1
    | L 920/69
    + 134/101
    L 280/5003


    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/1.0)
  • From Fidotest@2:221/1 to Everyone on Fri Apr 1 00:00:02 2022

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    221/1
    + 221/6
    | + 5020/1042
    | | L 3634/12
    | | + 154/10
    | | | L 2320/105
    | | | L 2320/33
    | | L 250/1
    | | + 250/11
    | | L 250/8
    | L 460/58
    | + 460/256
    | L 460/5858
    + 280/464
    | + 301/1
    | | + 92/1
    | | | L 920/69
    | | L 30/0
    | + 292/854
    | + 770/1
    | | + 317/3
    | | | + 305/3
    | | | L 298/25
    | | | L 298/26
    | | | L 14/25
    | | L 633/280
    | + 396/45
    | | L 130/330
    | + 203/0
    | | L 201/0
    | | L 201/137
    | + 103/705
    | | L 218/700
    | + 341/234
    | + 310/31
    | L 2452/250
    | L 240/1120
    | L 371/0
    | L 371/52
    + 134/101
    + 640/1384
    + 221/360
    L 320/219
    L 322/0
    L 322/756
    L 275/91
    L 275/100
    L 153/7715
    + 229/426
    | + 90/1
    | | + 900/108
    | | L 900/106
    | + 229/307
    | + 342/200
    | + 266/512
    | | L 267/311
    | L 229/110
    L 640/1321
    Lost Node: 153/757
    Lost Node: 920/1


    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/1.0)
  • From Shaun Buzza@1:229/110 to Fidotest on Thu Mar 31 17:12:51 2022
    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    Um...1:229/426's SysOp would like a word with you...and I'm that SysOp.

    + 229/426
    | + 90/1
    | | + 900/108
    | | L 900/106
    | + 229/307
    | + 342/200
    | + 266/512
    | | L 267/311
    | L 229/110
    L 640/1321
    Lost Node: 153/757

    Wait, maybe I should say nothing instead...

    For the record, I'm not 'lost', just because you haven't found me!

    McDoob
    SysOp, PiBBS
    pibbs.sytes.net

    ... Do vegetarians eat animal crackers?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: PiBBS (1:229/110)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Shaun Buzza on Thu Mar 31 20:58:58 2022
    On 31 Mar 22 17:12:51, Shaun Buzza said the following to Fidotest:

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    Um...1:229/426's SysOp would like a word with you...and I'm that SysOp.

    Pay no attention to this stupid tree nonsense. Its always wrong yet gets trouted out here like gospel. Nobody cared when it was first posted and nobody cares now. Ranks up there with "echo stats" bullshit everyone skips over.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Shaun Buzza on Fri Apr 1 14:22:37 2022
    Hello Shaun!

    Thursday March 31 2022 17:12, you wrote to Fidotest:

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    Um...1:229/426's SysOp would like a word with you...and I'm that
    SysOp.

    + 229/426
    | + 90/1
    | | + 900/108
    | | L 900/106
    | + 229/307
    | + 342/200
    | + 266/512
    | | L 267/311
    | L 229/110
    L 640/1321
    Lost Node: 153/757

    Wait, maybe I should say nothing instead...

    For the record, I'm not 'lost', just because you haven't found me!

    This information cannot be accurate as the flow of echos is spread out over a very large
    star environment so that no one node can have an accurate list of SEENBY's.

    Therefore such a list is a waste of time and effort.

    Just ignore it.

    Vincent

    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.8/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)
  • From John Dovey@4:920/69.1 to Fidotest on Fri Apr 1 08:53:40 2022


    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days


    Lost Node: 153/757
    Lost Node: 920/1

    I'm guessing this just means there's been nothing from these nodes in tbe past 30 days?
    --- AfterShock/Android 1.6.8
    * Origin: Firecat Mobile (4:920/69.1)
  • From Flavio@2:460/256 to John Dovey on Fri Apr 1 20:54:36 2022

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    Lost Node: 153/757
    Lost Node: 920/1
    I'm guessing this just means there's been nothing from these nodes in tbe past 30 days?

    at this area, yes.
    --- tg BBS v0.7.1
    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS from Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/256)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1 to Nick Andre on Sat Apr 2 11:08:26 2022
    Hello, Nick Andre.
    On 31/03/2022 18.58 you wrote:

    On 31 Mar 22 17:12:51, Shaun Buzza said the following to Fidotest:
    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days
    Um...1:229/426's SysOp would like a word with you...and I'm that SysOp.
    Pay no attention to this stupid tree nonsense.

    Someone pays attention every month. You for example. :D

    --
    Tommi

    --- HotdogEd/2.13.5 (Android; Google Android; rv:1) Hotdoged/1646645405000 HotdogEd/2.13.5
    * Origin: rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/1.0)
  • From Shaun Buzza@1:229/110 to Tommi Koivula on Sat Apr 2 13:28:45 2022
    On 31 Mar 22 17:12:51, Shaun Buzza said the following to Fidotest:
    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days
    Um...1:229/426's SysOp would like a word with you...and I'm that Sys
    Pay no attention to this stupid tree nonsense.

    Someone pays attention every month. You for example. :D

    Or, maybe, just maybe, he's only paying attention to the SysOps that are part of his Zone? I'm not suggesting that he's stalking me, by any means. But...it's getting a little creepy, Nick... (o_-)

    McDoob
    SysOp, PiBBS
    pibbs.sytes.net

    ... Top secret! Burn before reading!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: PiBBS (1:229/110)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Shaun Buzza on Sat Apr 2 15:01:38 2022
    On 02 Apr 22 13:28:45, Shaun Buzza said the following to Tommi Koivula:

    Someone pays attention every month. You for example. :D

    Or, maybe, just maybe, he's only paying attention to the SysOps that are pa of his Zone? I'm not suggesting that he's stalking me, by any means. But...it's getting a little creepy, Nick... (o_-)

    Whatever you're smoking, I'll pass...

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Shaun Buzza@1:229/110 to Nick Andre on Sat Apr 2 15:55:11 2022
    Someone pays attention every month. You for example. :D

    Or, maybe, just maybe, he's only paying attention to the SysOps that a of his Zone? I'm not suggesting that he's stalking me, by any means. But...it's getting a little creepy, Nick... (o_-)

    Whatever you're smoking, I'll pass...

    Sure...blame the pot...(o_O)

    it's not 'paranoia' if someone actually *is* out to get you, and I've got more than one vindictive ex!

    McDoob
    SysOp, PiBBS
    pibbs.sytes.net

    ... Message encrypted: Press ALT-F4 to read encoded message

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: PiBBS (1:229/110)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Shaun Buzza on Sat Apr 2 16:13:08 2022
    On 02 Apr 22 15:55:11, Shaun Buzza said the following to Nick Andre:

    Whatever you're smoking, I'll pass...

    Sure...blame the pot...(o_O)

    it's not 'paranoia' if someone actually *is* out to get you, and I've got m than one vindictive ex!

    Ouch... one batshit-crazy vindictive ex was enough for me.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Shaun Buzza@1:229/110 to Nick Andre on Sat Apr 2 17:11:20 2022
    Whatever you're smoking, I'll pass...

    Sure...blame the pot...(o_O)

    it's not 'paranoia' if someone actually *is* out to get you, and I've than one vindictive ex!

    Ouch... one batshit-crazy vindictive ex was enough for me.

    I was exclusive to red-heads at one point in my life... ~\(-_-)/~

    McDoob
    SysOp, PiBBS
    pibbs.sytes.net

    ... Origin of Life? Just check my refrigerator...

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: PiBBS (1:229/110)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Shaun Buzza on Sat Apr 2 19:03:19 2022
    On 02 Apr 22 17:11:20, Shaun Buzza said the following to Nick Andre:

    it's not 'paranoia' if someone actually *is* out to get you, and I than one vindictive ex!

    Ouch... one batshit-crazy vindictive ex was enough for me.

    I was exclusive to red-heads at one point in my life... ~\(-_-)/~

    Fuuuuuuuuuuuuckkkkkk...don't get me started on gingers.

    Lets move this to the super-duper-secret-conspiracy Z1C echo.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Shaun Buzza@1:229/110 to Nick Andre on Sat Apr 2 19:19:53 2022
    Lets move this to the super-duper-secret-conspiracy Z1C echo.

    Yeah, probably a good idea. We're very quickly going off-topic... (o_-)

    Sorry, FIDOTEST. As you were. (^_^)/

    McDoob
    SysOp, PiBBS
    pibbs.sytes.net

    ... The dog ate my .REP packet

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: PiBBS (1:229/110)
  • From Fidotest@2:221/1 to Everyone on Sun May 1 00:00:02 2022

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    221/1
    + 221/6
    | + 5020/1042
    | | L 3634/12
    | | + 640/1321
    | | | L 116/110
    | | L 123/115
    | + 460/58
    | | L 460/256
    | + 218/840
    | + 153/757
    | L 341/66
    | L 770/1
    | + 317/3
    | + 80/1
    | | L 801/195
    | L 772/210
    + 280/464
    | + 221/1
    | + 712/848
    | + 341/234
    | + 203/0
    | | L 201/0
    | | L 201/137
    | + 292/854
    | + 103/705
    | L 310/31
    + 320/219
    | + 322/0
    | | L 322/756
    | | L 275/91
    | | L 275/100
    | L 19/40
    + 301/1
    | + 154/10
    | | L 2320/105
    | | + 2320/33
    | | L 116/17
    | + 250/1
    | | L 250/12
    | + 92/1
    | | + 920/69
    | | L 920/1
    | L 240/1120
    | L 371/0
    | L 371/52
    + 134/101
    | L 153/7715
    | L 229/426
    | + 229/110
    | + 90/1
    | | + 900/108
    | | L 900/106
    | + 15/0
    | | L 104/116
    | + 229/700
    | L 342/200
    + 280/5555
    + 221/360
    L 320/119


    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/1.0)
  • From Fidotest@2:221/1 to Everyone on Wed Jun 1 00:00:00 2022

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    221/1
    + 320/219
    | L 19/40
    + 280/464
    | + 770/1
    | | L 317/3
    | + 292/854
    | + 460/58
    | | L 460/256
    | + 203/0
    | | L 201/0
    | | L 201/137
    | + 396/45
    | | + 229/426
    | | | + 15/0
    | | | | + 340/400
    | | | | | L 340/1101
    | | | | L 104/116
    | | | + 229/452
    | | | L 229/664
    | | L 130/330
    | L 103/705
    | L 218/700
    | L 214/22
    | L 214/23
    + 301/1
    | + 154/10
    | | + 2320/105
    | | | L 116/17
    | | + 221/6
    | | | + 341/66
    | | | L 153/757
    | | + 3634/12
    | | | L 153/7715
    | | | L 275/100
    | | | + 275/201
    | | | L 275/93
    | | L 129/215
    | + 5020/1042
    | + 92/1
    | | L 920/1
    | L 301/123
    + 240/1120
    | L 371/0
    | L 371/52
    + 134/101
    + 280/5555
    L 221/360


    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/1.0)
  • From Fidotest@2:221/1 to Everyone on Fri Jul 1 00:00:02 2022

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    221/1
    + 221/6
    | + 218/840
    | + 153/757
    | + 280/5555
    | + 341/234
    | | L 280/464
    | | + 203/0
    | | | L 201/0
    | | | L 201/137
    | | + 396/45
    | | | L 130/330
    | | L 292/854
    | L 341/66
    | L 770/1
    | + 317/3
    | | L 229/426
    | | L 229/664
    | + 633/280
    | L 267/800
    | L 267/331
    + 301/1
    | + 92/1
    | | L 920/1
    | L 460/58
    | + 460/256
    | L 460/5858
    + 240/1120
    | L 371/0
    | L 371/52
    + 320/219
    | L 342/19
    + 221/360
    L 134/101
    L 153/7715
    L 275/1000
    L 250/1
    L 250/6


    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/1.0)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Fidotest on Fri Jul 1 05:43:37 2022
    221/1
    + 221/6
    | + 218/840
    | + 153/757
    | + 280/5555
    | + 341/234
    | | L 280/464
    | | + 203/0
    | | | L 201/0
    | | | L 201/137
    | | + 396/45
    | | | L 130/330
    | | L 292/854
    ..
    P@TH: 221/1 292/854

    Hmmmmm ...

    --- DB4 - 20220519
    * Origin: Many Glacier - Preserve / Protect / Conserve (2:292/854)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/1 to Everyone on Mon Aug 1 00:00:20 2022
    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    221/1
    + 221/6
    | + 153/757
    | + 218/840
    | | + 770/1
    | | | + 317/3
    | | | | L 229/426
    | | | | + 15/0
    | | | | | L 340/400
    | | | | | L 340/1101
    | | | | L 229/664
    | | | L 772/210
    | | L 218/700
    | | L 214/22
    | | L 214/23
    | + 5020/1042
    | | + 3634/12
    | | | + 240/1120
    | | | | + 371/0
    | | | | | L 371/52
    | | | | L 530/204
    | | | + 222/2
    | | | | L 263/1
    | | | L 154/10
    | | | L 2320/105
    | | | L 116/17
    | | | L 116/18
    | | + 463/68
    | | | L 467/4
    | | L 467/888
    | + 460/58
    | | L 460/256
    | L 341/234
    | L 280/464
    | + 396/45
    | | L 130/230
    | + 633/280
    | | L 633/418
    | + 423/120
    | L 292/854
    + 301/1
    | + 341/66
    | L 92/1
    | L 920/1
    L 280/5555
    L 203/0
    L 201/0
    L 201/137


    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/1.0)
  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Fidotest Tree on Sun Jul 31 23:56:12 2022
    Hello Fidotest!

    Monday August 01 2022 00:00, you wrote to Everyone:

    @MSGID: 2:221/1 62e6ed66
    @PID: FIDOTREE
    @CHRS: ASCII 1
    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    221/1
    + 221/6
    | + 153/757
    | + 218/840
    | | + 770/1
    | | | + 317/3
    | | | | L 229/426
    | | | | + 15/0
    | | | | | L 340/400
    | | | | | L 340/1101
    | | | | L 229/664
    | | | L 772/210
    | | L 218/700
    | | L 214/22
    | | L 214/23
    | + 5020/1042
    | | + 3634/12
    | | | + 240/1120
    | | | | + 371/0
    | | | | | L 371/52
    | | | | L 530/204
    | | | + 222/2
    | | | | L 263/1
    | | | L 154/10
    | | | L 2320/105
    | | | L 116/17
    | | | L 116/18
    | | + 463/68
    | | | L 467/4
    | | L 467/888
    | + 460/58
    | | L 460/256
    | L 341/234
    | L 280/464
    | + 396/45
    | | L 130/230
    | + 633/280
    | | L 633/418
    | + 423/120
    | L 292/854
    + 301/1
    | + 341/66
    | L 92/1
    | L 920/1
    L 280/5555
    L 203/0
    L 201/0
    L 201/137



    SEEN-BY: 25/0 250/0 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 11 12 261/38 263/0 292/854 3634/12
    @PATH: 250/1

    Tree does look somewhat broken !


    Vincent

    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.8/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/1 to Everyone on Thu Sep 1 00:00:04 2022

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    221/1
    + 221/6
    | + 5020/1042
    | | + 3634/12
    | | | + 250/1
    | | | L 154/10
    | | | L 2320/105
    | | | L 116/17
    | | | L 116/18
    | | + 463/68
    | | L 467/888
    | | L 467/4
    | + 301/1
    | + 341/234
    | + 218/840
    | | + 770/1
    | | | L 317/3
    | | | L 229/426
    | | | + 105/81
    | | | | + 105/85
    | | | | L 105/500
    | | | L 342/200
    | | L 218/700
    | L 341/66
    + 280/464
    | + 203/0
    | | + 201/0
    | | | L 201/137
    | | L 320/219
    | | L 19/37
    | + 310/31
    | + 396/45
    | | L 130/230
    | + 153/757
    | L 103/705
    + 240/1120
    | L 371/0
    | L 371/52
    + 134/101
    | L 153/7715
    L 280/5555


    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/1.0)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Fidotest Tree on Fri Sep 2 11:10:08 2022
    Hi, Fidotest!

    01 ᥭ 22 00:00, Fidotest Tree -> Everyone:

    221/1
    + 221/6
    | + 5020/1042
    | | + 3634/12
    | | | + 250/1
    | | | L 154/10
    | | | L 2320/105
    | | | L 116/17
    | | | L 116/18
    | | + 463/68
    | | L 467/888
    | | L 467/4
    | + 301/1
    | + 341/234
    | + 218/840
    | | + 770/1
    | | | L 317/3
    | | | L 229/426
    | | | + 105/81
    | | | | + 105/85
    | | | | L 105/500
    | | | L 342/200
    | | L 218/700
    | L 341/66

    Where is 2:460/58?

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- ‚ᥠ«î¤¨ ïîâáï ­®á¨â¥«ï¬¨ ¨­â¥««¥ªâ . ® ¬­®£¨¥ ¡¥áᨬ¯â®¬­®.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1.1 to Stas Mishchenkov on Fri Sep 2 15:34:18 2022
    Hi Stas.

    02 Sep 22 11:10:08, you wrote to Fidotest Tree:

    221/1
    + 221/6
    | + 5020/1042
    | | + 3634/12
    | | | + 250/1
    | | | L 154/10
    | | | L 2320/105
    | | | L 116/17
    | | | L 116/18
    | | + 463/68
    | | L 467/888
    | | L 467/4
    | + 301/1
    | + 341/234
    | + 218/840
    | | + 770/1
    | | | L 317/3
    | | | L 229/426
    | | | + 105/81
    | | | | + 105/85
    | | | | L 105/500
    | | | L 342/200
    | | L 218/700
    | L 341/66

    Where is 2:460/58?

    No messages from 2:460/58 in 31 days. Before this. :)

    === Cut ===

    hpttree/w32-mvc 1.9 2022-08-07

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 3 days

    221/1
    + 221/6
    + 460/58
    + 460/5858

    === Cut ===

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: Point One (2:221/1.1)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/1 to Everyone on Sat Oct 1 00:00:02 2022
    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    221/1
    + 221/6
    | + 218/840
    | + 341/234
    | + 460/58
    | | + 460/5858
    | | L 460/256
    | + 280/5555
    | L 5020/1042
    | L 3634/12
    + 280/464
    | + 770/1
    | | + 317/3
    | | | L 229/426
    | | | + 342/200
    | | | + 15/0
    | | | | L 340/400
    | | | | L 340/1101
    | | | + 229/664
    | | | L 105/81
    | | L 770/100
    | + 103/705
    | | L 218/700
    | + 341/66
    | + 153/757
    | | + 153/149
    | | L 920/1
    | | L 301/1
    | + 154/10
    | | L 2320/105
    | | L 116/17
    | | L 116/18
    | + 396/45
    | | + 19/36
    | | L 19/40
    | + 310/31
    | + 203/0
    | | L 201/0
    | | L 201/137
    | L 2452/250
    + 221/360
    + 240/1120
    | L 371/0
    | L 371/52
    + 134/101
    | L 153/7715
    L 320/219


    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/1.0)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/1 to Everyone on Tue Nov 1 00:00:02 2022

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    nothing to build (0 messages)

    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/1.0)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Fidotest Tree on Tue Nov 1 12:18:26 2022
    Hi, Fidotest!

    01 ­®ï 22 00:00, Fidotest Tree -> Everyone:

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    nothing to build (0 messages)

    Wow! ;)

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- ‘ ¬ë© ¬®© ¯à®¢¥à¥­­ë© à¥æ¥¯â - ᪠§ âì ¦¥­¥, çâ® å®ç¥èì ¡®àé .
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From John Dovey@4:920/1.1 to Fidotest Tree on Tue Nov 1 04:45:19 2022


    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    nothing to build (0 messages)

    That's bizarre. I've definitely seen messages on here in the past 30 days. Last one was on the 19 Oct from Carlos and more before that.

    JD
    --- AfterShock/Android 1.6.8
    * Origin: Firecat Mobile (4:920/1.1)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/1 to Everyone on Thu Dec 1 00:00:04 2022

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 31 days

    221/1
    + 280/464
    | + 460/58
    | | + 460/5858
    | | L 460/256
    | + 301/1
    | | L 92/1
    | | + 920/1
    | | L 90/1
    | + 240/1120
    | | L 371/0
    | | L 371/52
    | + 341/234
    | + 341/66
    | + 203/0
    | | L 201/0
    | | L 201/137
    | + 240/5832
    | + 770/1
    | | L 317/3
    | | L 229/426
    | | + 342/200
    | | + 322/757
    | | L 105/81
    | + 103/705
    | + 280/5555
    | + 154/10
    | | L 3634/12
    | | L 123/115
    | L 396/45
    + 221/6
    | + 153/757
    | + 218/840
    | | L 218/700
    | L 221/100
    + 320/219
    + 292/854
    L 221/360


    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/1.0)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/1 to Everyone on Sun Jan 1 00:00:02 2023

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    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/1.0)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/1 to Everyone on Wed Feb 1 00:00:02 2023

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    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/1.0)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/1 to Everyone on Wed Mar 1 00:00:00 2023

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days

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    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/1.0)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/6 to Everyone on Sat Apr 1 00:00:02 2023

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days

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    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/6.0)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/6 to Everyone on Mon May 1 00:00:02 2023

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days

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    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/6.0)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/6 to Everyone on Thu Jun 1 00:00:00 2023

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days

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    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/6.0)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/6 to Everyone on Sat Jul 1 00:00:00 2023

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days

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    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/6.0)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/6 to Everyone on Tue Aug 1 00:00:02 2023

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days

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    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/6.0)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/6 to Everyone on Fri Sep 1 00:00:00 2023

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days

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    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/6.0)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/6 to Everyone on Sun Oct 1 00:00:00 2023

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days

    221/6
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    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/6.0)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/6 to Everyone on Wed Nov 1 00:00:00 2023

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days

    221/6
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    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/6.0)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/6 to Everyone on Fri Dec 1 00:00:00 2023

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days

    221/6
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    | L 240/5853
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    | L 5020/715
    | L 5023/24
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    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/6.0)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/6 to Everyone on Mon Jan 1 00:00:00 2024

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days

    221/6
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    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/6.0)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/6 to Everyone on Thu Feb 1 00:00:02 2024

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days

    221/6
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    | L 201/137
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    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/6.0)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/6 to Everyone on Fri Mar 1 00:00:00 2024

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days

    221/6
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    | L 371/52
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    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/6.0)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/6 to Everyone on Mon Apr 1 00:00:00 2024

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days

    221/6
    + 460/58
    | + 280/464
    | | + 396/45
    | | | + 130/230
    | | | L 19/40
    | | + 240/1120
    | | | L 371/0
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    | L 460/5858
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    | | L 201/137
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    | L 134/101
    | L 153/7715
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    | | + 229/307
    | | | L 229/308
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    | | L 105/81
    | L 3634/12
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    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/6.0)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/6 to Everyone on Wed May 1 00:00:00 2024

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days

    221/6
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    | + 221/360
    | L 134/101
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    | L 2320/105
    | L 2320/107
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    | | + 240/1120
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    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/6.0)
  • From Nil A@2:5015/46 to Fidotest Tree on Wed May 1 18:29:00 2024
    Hello, Fidotest!

    Wednesday May 01 2024 00:00, from Fidotest Tree -> Everyone:

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days

    221/6
    + 221/1
    | + 221/360
    | L 134/101
    + 154/10
    | L 2320/105
    | L 2320/107
    + 5020/1042
    | + 5020/715
    | | L 5023/24
    | + 3634/12
    | | L 153/7715
    | | L 229/426
    | | + 342/200
    | | | L 342/201
    | | + 229/664
    | | + 15/0
    | | | L 340/400
    | | | L 340/1101
    | | L 229/307
    | L 5075/128
    + 218/840
    | + 770/1
    | | + 80/1
    | | | L 801/188
    | | L 633/280
    | L 218/700
    + 341/234
    + 460/58
    | L 460/256
    + 301/1
    + 341/66
    | + 280/464
    | | + 240/1120
    | | | L 371/0
    | | | L 371/52
    | | + 396/45
    | | + 203/0
    | | | L 201/0
    | | | L 201/137
    | | + 712/848
    | | L 240/5832
    | | L 320/219
    | L 902/26
    | L 90/1
    | L 900/106
    L 153/757

    This is how it looks from my node.

    $ hpttree -d 30 fidotest
    hpttree/lnx 1.9

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days

    2:5020/1042
    + 2:221/6
    | + 2:218/840
    | | + 2:770/1
    | | | + 2:80/1
    | | | | L 2:801/188
    | | | L 2:633/280
    | | L 2:218/700
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    | | L 2:460/256
    | + 2:221/1
    | + 2:153/757
    | L 2:341/66
    | + 2:280/464
    | | + 2:154/10
    | | | L 2:2320/105
    | | | L 2:2320/107
    | | + 2:396/45
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    | | | L 2:201/0
    | | | L 2:201/137
    | | L 2:240/5832
    | | L 2:320/219
    | L 2:902/26
    | L 2:90/1
    | L 2:900/106
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    | + 2:240/1120
    | | L 2:371/0
    | | L 2:371/52
    | L 2:153/7715
    | L 2:229/426
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    | | L 2:342/201
    | + 2:229/664
    | + 2:15/0
    | | L 2:340/400
    | | L 2:340/1101
    | L 2:229/307
    + 2:5075/128
    L 2:467/888

    Generated by hpttree/lnx 1.9


    Best Regards, Nil
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240306
    * Origin: FidoNet member since 1995 (2:5015/46)
  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Nil A on Wed May 1 18:31:18 2024
    Hello Nil,

    On Wed, 01 May 2024 18:29:00 +0300, you wrote to Fidotest Tree:

    This is how it looks from my node.

    $ hpttree -d 30 fidotest
    hpttree/lnx 1.9

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days

    | | + 2:154/10
    + 2:3634/12
    | L 2:229/426
    | + 2:342/200
    | | L 2:342/201
    | + 2:229/664
    | + 2:15/0
    | | L 2:340/400
    | | L 2:340/1101
    | L 2:229/307

    Except, a lot of the above should be zone 1. I also think there was one or more zone 3 addresses in your tree too, that were shown as Z2.

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240309
    * Origin: _thePharcyde distribution system (Wisconsin) (1:154/10)
  • From Gleb Hlebov@2:5023/24.4222 to Nicholas Boel on Thu May 2 08:57:09 2024
    Hi Nicholas,

    Wed 01 May 2024 at 18:31, you wrote to Nil A:

    | + 2:15/0
    | | L 2:340/400
    | | L 2:340/1101
    | L 2:229/307
    Except, a lot of the above should be zone 1. I also think there was
    one or more zone 3 addresses in your tree too, that were shown as Z2.

    It's a funny historical "bug", because looking at many SEEN-BYs you have to guess which zone (of the four) it is now. HptTree seems to default everything to z2.


    ... I got a job at a bakery because I kneaded dough
    --- A Damned Hobbyist 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Microstuff, Inc. (2:5023/24.4222)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Nicholas Boel on Thu May 2 18:32:56 2024
    On 01/05/2024 23.31, Nicholas Boel wrote:

    Hello Nil,

    On Wed, 01 May 2024 18:29:00 +0300, you wrote to Fidotest Tree:

    This is how it looks from my node.

    $ hpttree -d 30 fidotest
    hpttree/lnx 1.9

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days

    | | + 2:154/10
    + 2:3634/12
    | L 2:229/426
    | + 2:342/200
    | | L 2:342/201
    | + 2:229/664
    | + 2:15/0
    | | L 2:340/400
    | | L 2:340/1101
    | L 2:229/307

    Except, a lot of the above should be zone 1. I also think there was one
    or more zone 3 addresses in your tree too, that were shown as Z2.

    My fidotest robot strips the zone because of this. Someone should make hpttree to search the nodelist for the correct zone. ;)

    'Tommi

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.3.2.3-B20240427
    * Origin: nntp://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/6.0)
  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10.213 to Tommi Koivula on Thu May 2 12:14:19 2024
    Hello Tommi,

    On Thursday, 02.05.24 15:32:56, you wrote:

    Except, a lot of the above should be zone 1. I also think there was one or
    more zone 3 addresses in your tree too, that were shown as Z2.

    My fidotest robot strips the zone because of this. Someone should make hpttree to search the nodelist for the correct zone. ;)

    I think you just volunteered yourself. ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.
    --- WinPoint 415.0
    * Origin: _thePharcyde WinPoint test station (1:154/10.213)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1 to Nicholas Boel on Thu May 2 22:27:44 2024
    On Thu, 2 May 2024 12:14:18 -0500 Nicholas Boel wrote:



    >> Except, a lot of the above should be zone 1. I also think
    >> there was one or more zone 3 addresses in your tree too, that
    >> were shown as Z2.

    TK> My fidotest robot strips the zone because of this. Someone
    TK> should make hpttree to search the nodelist for the correct
    TK> zone. ;)

    I think you just volunteered yourself. ;)

    Not very high priority in my todo list. ;)

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: jamnntpd/lnx (2:221/1.0)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/6 to Everyone on Sat Jun 1 00:00:00 2024

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days

    221/6
    + 5020/1042
    | + 5020/715
    | | L 5023/24
    | + 5015/46
    | L 3634/12
    | L 153/7715
    + 154/10
    + 221/1
    | + 292/854
    | L 423/81
    + 218/840
    | + 218/700
    | L 770/1
    | L 267/800
    | L 267/331
    + 460/58
    | L 460/256
    + 335/364
    | L 333/808
    | L 333/801
    + 341/66
    + 301/1
    L 341/234
    L 280/464
    + 203/0
    | L 201/0
    | L 201/137
    + 153/757
    | L 153/151
    + 240/1120
    | L 371/0
    | L 371/52
    + 280/5003
    | L 280/2050
    + 633/280
    L 712/848
    L 229/426
    + 229/317
    + 229/300
    + 342/200
    | L 342/201
    L 229/307


    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/6.0)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/6 to Everyone on Mon Jul 1 00:00:00 2024

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days

    221/6
    + 460/58
    | L 280/464
    | + 396/45
    | | L 19/40
    | + 280/5003
    | | L 280/2050
    | + 712/848
    | L 153/757
    | L 3634/12
    | L 153/7715
    + 301/1
    + 221/1
    | + 320/219
    | | L 322/762
    | L 203/0
    | L 201/0
    | L 201/137
    + 341/66
    + 218/840
    | L 218/700
    | L 229/426
    | + 229/300
    | + 229/307
    | + 229/275
    | + 229/664
    | L 342/200
    | L 342/201
    L 154/10


    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/6.0)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/6 to Everyone on Thu Aug 1 00:00:00 2024

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days

    221/6
    + 5020/1042
    + 460/58
    | L 280/464
    | + 712/848
    | | L 712/620
    | + 103/705
    | L 240/1120
    | L 371/0
    | L 371/52
    + 154/10
    | + 3634/12
    | | + 135/115
    | | | L 135/366
    | | L 153/7715
    | | L 229/426
    | | + 229/307
    | | L 229/664
    | L 2320/105
    | L 2320/107
    + 341/66
    L 221/1


    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/6.0)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/6 to Everyone on Sun Sep 1 00:00:00 2024

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days

    221/6
    + 218/840
    | L 218/700
    + 341/66
    + 221/1
    | + 320/219
    | + 280/464
    | | + 203/0
    | | | L 201/0
    | | | L 201/137
    | | + 240/1120
    | | | L 371/0
    | | | L 371/52
    | | + 396/45
    | | | L 387/18
    | | + 103/705
    | | L 712/848
    | | L 229/426
    | | + 229/114
    | | + 229/664
    | | L 229/307
    | | L 229/308
    | + 292/854
    | L 134/101
    | L 153/7715
    + 460/58
    + 154/10
    | + 226/44
    | L 2320/105
    | L 2320/107
    + 5020/1042
    | + 5020/715
    | + 5020/4441
    | | L 5030/1081
    | + 5015/46
    | + 104/117
    | L 3634/12
    + 301/1
    + 153/757
    L 221/10


    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/6.0)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/6 to Everyone on Tue Oct 1 00:00:00 2024

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days

    221/6
    + 154/10
    | + 226/18
    | L 3634/12
    | L 135/115
    + 341/66
    + 221/1
    | + 203/0
    | | L 201/0
    | | L 201/137
    | + 320/219
    | + 280/464
    | | + 396/45
    | | | L 387/18
    | | + 240/1120
    | | | + 291/111
    | | | L 371/0
    | | | L 371/52
    | | + 310/31
    | | L 633/280
    | L 221/360
    + 301/1
    | L 103/705
    + 341/234
    L 218/840
    L 218/700
    L 229/426
    + 229/307
    | L 229/308
    L 229/664


    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/6.0)
  • From Nil Alexandrov@2:5015/46 to Fidotest Tree on Tue Oct 1 04:11:52 2024
    Hello, Fidotest!

    01 Oct 24 00:00, from Fidotest Tree -> Everyone:

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days
    221/6
    + 154/10
    | + 226/18
    | L 3634/12
    | L 135/115
    + 341/66
    + 221/1
    | + 203/0
    | | L 201/0
    | | L 201/137
    | + 320/219
    | + 280/464
    | | + 396/45
    | | | L 387/18
    | | + 240/1120
    | | | + 291/111
    | | | L 371/0
    | | | L 371/52
    | | + 310/31
    | | L 633/280
    | L 221/360
    + 301/1
    | L 103/705
    + 341/234
    L 218/840
    L 218/700
    L 229/426
    + 229/307
    | L 229/308
    L 229/664

    Your robot can see the world through the small hole somewhere in the middle of a small Europe, whereas my robot have visibility into a huge country which covers both Europe and Asia, and as a result the output is a bit longer.

    Distribution tree of area fidotest
    2:5020/1042
    + 2:221/6
    | + 2:341/234
    | + 2:154/10
    | | + 2:3634/12
    | | | + 2:135/115
    | | | | + 2:135/205
    | | | | L 2:135/366
    | | | L 2:123/160
    | | + 2:2320/105
    | | | L 2:2320/107
    | | + 2:226/44
    | | L 2:226/18
    | + 2:221/1
    | | + 2:203/0
    | | | L 2:201/0
    | | | L 2:201/137
    | | + 2:280/464
    | | | + 2:633/280
    | | | + 2:240/1120
    | | | | + 2:371/0
    | | | | | L 2:371/52
    | | | | L 2:291/111
    | | | + 2:396/45
    | | | | + 2:130/230
    | | | | + 2:19/40
    | | | | L 2:387/18
    | | | + 2:310/31
    | | | + 2:712/848
    | | | | L 2:712/620
    | | | + 2:240/5832
    | | | L 2:280/5003
    | | | L 2:280/2050
    | | + 2:292/854
    | | + 2:320/219
    | | | L 2:322/762
    | | + 2:221/360
    | | + 2:423/81
    | | L 2:134/101
    | | L 2:153/7715
    | + 2:218/840
    | | + 2:218/700
    | | | L 2:229/426
    | | | + 2:105/81
    | | | | L 2:105/10
    | | | + 2:229/275
    | | | + 2:229/664
    | | | + 2:342/200
    | | | | L 2:342/201
    | | | + 2:15/0
    | | | | L 2:340/400
    | | | | L 2:340/1101
    | | | + 2:229/307
    | | | | L 2:229/308
    | | | + 2:229/317
    | | | + 2:229/300
    | | | L 2:229/114
    | | L 2:770/1
    | | + 2:80/1
    | | | L 2:801/188
    | | L 2:267/800
    | | L 2:267/331
    | + 2:460/58
    | | + 2:460/256
    | | L 2:460/5858
    | + 2:341/66
    | | + 2:341/200
    | | L 2:902/26
    | | L 2:90/1
    | | L 2:900/106
    | + 2:335/364
    | | L 2:333/808
    | | L 2:333/801
    | + 2:221/10
    | L 2:153/757
    | L 2:153/151
    + 2:5020/715
    | L 2:5023/24
    + 2:301/1
    | + 2:280/5555
    | L 2:103/705
    + 2:467/888
    + 2:5075/128
    + 2:5020/4441
    | L 2:5030/1081
    L 2:104/117

    Best Regards, Nil
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240306
    * Origin: FidoNet member since 1995 (2:5015/46)
  • From Stephen Walsh@3:633/280 to Nil Alexandrov on Tue Oct 1 11:45:18 2024

    Hello Nil!

    01 Oct 24 04:11, you wrote to Fidotest Tree:

    Your robot can see the world through the small hole somewhere in the middle of a small Europe, whereas my robot have visibility into a huge country which covers both Europe and Asia, and as a result the output
    is a bit longer.

    Distribution tree of area fidotest
    2:5020/1042
    + 2:221/6
    | + 2:341/234
    | + 2:154/10
    | | + 2:3634/12
    | | | + 2:135/115
    | | | | + 2:135/205
    | | | | L 2:135/366
    | | | L 2:123/160
    | | + 2:2320/105
    | | | L 2:2320/107
    | | + 2:226/44
    | | L 2:226/18
    | + 2:221/1
    | | + 2:203/0
    | | | L 2:201/0
    | | | L 2:201/137
    | | + 2:280/464
    | | | + 2:633/280
    [...]

    Except yours thinks everyone is in zone 2....


    Stephen


    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240302
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair ---:- dragon.vk3heg.net -:--- Prt: 6800 (3:633/280)
  • From Nil Alexandrov@2:5015/46 to Stephen Walsh on Tue Oct 1 05:37:20 2024
    Hello, Stephen!

    01 Oct 24 11:45, from Stephen Walsh -> Nil Alexandrov:

    Your robot can see the world through the small hole somewhere in
    a middle of a small Europe, whereas my robot have visibility
    into the huge country which covers both Europe and Asia, and as a
    result the output is a bit longer.

    Distribution tree of area fidotest
    2:5020/1042
    + 2:221/6
    | + 2:341/234
    | + 2:154/10
    | | + 2:3634/12
    | | | + 2:135/115
    | | | | + 2:135/205
    | | | | L 2:135/366
    | | | L 2:123/160
    | | + 2:2320/105
    | | | L 2:2320/107
    | | + 2:226/44
    | | L 2:226/18
    | + 2:221/1
    | | + 2:203/0
    | | | L 2:201/0
    | | | L 2:201/137
    | | + 2:280/464
    | | | + 2:633/280
    [...]

    Except yours thinks everyone is in zone 2....

    Very true. I have zero FNT peering with Z3, so my view of world is limited but still a bit wider than the original post.

    BTW, we can fix it by establishing a binkp link. if you are interested, netmail me the session/pkt/areafix pwd.


    Best Regards, Nil
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240306
    * Origin: FidoNet member since 1995 (2:5015/46)
  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Nil Alexandrov on Tue Oct 1 16:47:52 2024
    Hello Nil,

    On Tue, Oct 01 2024 02:37:20 -0500, you wrote:

    | + 2:154/10
    | | + 2:3634/12
    | | | + 2:135/115
    | | | | + 2:135/205
    | | | | L 2:135/366
    | | | L 2:123/160
    | | + 2:2320/105
    | | | L 2:2320/107
    | | + 2:226/44
    | | L 2:226/18

    Except yours thinks everyone is in zone 2....

    Very true. I have zero FNT peering with Z3, so my view of world is
    limited but still a bit wider than the original post.

    Or Z1, apparently, since all of the above quoted links are Z1.. starting with my own. :(

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... He who laughs last, thinks slowest.
    --- slrn/pre1.0.4-9 (Linux)
    * Origin: The Pharcyde ~ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (1:154/10)
  • From Nil Alexandrov@2:5015/46 to Nicholas Boel on Wed Oct 2 02:39:56 2024
    * Originally in fidotest
    * Crossposted in fidosoft.husky
    Hello, Nicholas!

    01 Oct 24 16:47, from Nicholas Boel -> Nil Alexandrov:

    | + 2:154/10
    | | + 2:3634/12
    | | | + 2:135/115
    | | | | + 2:135/205
    | | | | L 2:135/366
    | | | L 2:123/160
    | | + 2:2320/105
    | | | L 2:2320/107
    | | + 2:226/44
    | | L 2:226/18

    Except yours thinks everyone is in zone 2....

    Very true. I have zero FTN peering with Z3, so my view of world
    is limited but still a bit wider than the original post.

    Or Z1, apparently, since all of the above quoted links are Z1..
    starting with my own. :(

    Actually, you are right again. There is a bug in husky hpttree utility. It treats 2D PATH addresses as if they were belonging to your default/home zone number. The improvement could be that hpttree would parse out the real zone number from the origin line.

    Best Regards, Nil
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240306
    * Origin: FidoNet member since 1995 (2:5015/46)
  • From Stephen Walsh@3:633/280 to Nil Alexandrov on Thu Oct 3 10:32:34 2024

    Hello Nil!

    01 Oct 24 05:37, you wrote to me:

    | | + 2:280/464
    | | | + 2:633/280
    [...]

    Except yours thinks everyone is in zone 2....

    Very true. I have zero FNT peering with Z3, so my view of world is
    limited but still a bit wider than the original post.

    Even so, 633/280 is a zone 3 system. %-)

    BTW, we can fix it by establishing a binkp link. if you are interested, netmail me the session/pkt/areafix pwd.

    I doubt that would fix the issue, if the software is lacking in knowing other zones.


    Stephen


    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240302
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair ---:- dragon.vk3heg.net -:--- Prt: 6800 (3:633/280)
  • From Vitaliy Aksyonov@1:104/117 to Stephen Walsh on Thu Oct 3 07:07:58 2024
    Hello Stephen.

    03 Oct 24 10:32, you wrote to Nil Alexandrov:

    | | + 2:280/464
    | | | + 2:633/280
    [...]

    Except yours thinks everyone is in zone 2....

    Very true. I have zero FNT peering with Z3, so my view of world
    is limited but still a bit wider than the original post.

    Even so, 633/280 is a zone 3 system. %-)

    BTW, we can fix it by establishing a binkp link. if you are
    interested, netmail me the session/pkt/areafix pwd.

    I doubt that would fix the issue, if the software is lacking in
    knowing other zones.

    Easiest fix would be to print a tree without zone numbers.

    Vitaliy

    ... Hakuna matata
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240309
    * Origin: Aurora, Colorado (1:104/117)
  • From Fidotest Tree@2:221/6 to Everyone on Fri Nov 1 00:00:02 2024

    Distribution tree of area fidotest for last 30 days

    221/6
    + 5020/1042
    | + 5015/46
    | L 104/117
    + 218/840
    | + 770/1
    | | + 633/280
    | | | L 633/2744
    | | L 267/800
    | | L 267/331
    | L 218/700
    | L 229/426
    | + 229/664
    | + 229/452
    | + 342/200
    | | L 342/201
    | + 229/307
    | L 128/187
    | L 340/400
    | L 340/1101
    + 154/10
    | + 3634/12
    | | + 3634/56
    | | L 3634/59
    | L 2320/105
    + 153/757
    | L 153/143
    + 221/1
    | + 203/0
    | | L 201/0
    | | L 201/137
    | + 134/101
    | | L 153/7715
    | L 320/219
    + 341/66
    | L 280/464
    | + 280/5003
    | | L 280/2060
    | + 240/1120
    | | + 550/278
    | | L 371/0
    | | L 371/52
    | + 396/45
    | L 240/5832
    + 460/58
    + 301/1
    | L 301/123
    L 341/234


    --- - ---
    * Origin: Fidotest Tree (2:221/6.0)