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  • What is the charset kludge of this message ???

    From Gunter Sandner@2:310/31.2 to Alle on Mon Aug 24 15:58:00 2020
    Hello together!

    Is the charset kludge of this message as intedend like this:
    CHRS: CP437 2
    ???


    Ciao
    Gunter

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    Some umlauts „”Ž™š

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Gunter Sandner on Mon Aug 24 17:08:30 2020
    On 24.8.2020 15.58, Gunter Sandner wrote:

    Hello together!

    Is the charset kludge of this message as intedend like this:
    CHRS: CP437 2

    Yes. :)

    X-SMAPI-Control: @PID: OpenXP/5.0.45 (Win32)
    X-SMAPI-Control: @CHRS: CP437 2


    -- Some umlauts äöüÄÖÜ

    Looks fine. :)

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  • From Gunter Sandner@2:310/31.2 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Aug 24 16:21:00 2020
    Hello Tommi!

    Ok, thanks.

    Ciao
    Gunter

    On 24.8.2020 15.58, Gunter Sandner wrote:

    Hello together!

    Is the charset kludge of this message as intedend like this:
    CHRS: CP437 2

    Yes. :)


    --- OpenXP 5.0.45
    * Origin: Test-Origin (2:310/31.2)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Gunter Sandner on Mon Aug 24 16:23:13 2020
    Hello Gunter,

    On Monday August 24 2020 15:58, you wrote to Alle:

    @MSGID: 2:310/31.2@fidonet e7bcf7b0
    @PID: OpenXP/5.0.45 (Win32)
    @CHRS: CP437 2
    @TZUTC: 0200
    Hello together!

    Is the charset kludge of this message as intedend like this:
    CHRS: CP437 2
    ???

    Check.

    But why CP437? CP850, Latin-1 or UTF-8 are mostly used in Western Europe.

    Some umlauts äöüÄÖÜ

    Looks good.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Angel Ripoll@2:341/66 to Gunter Sandner on Mon Aug 24 20:07:14 2020
    Hola Gunter!

    24 Aug 20 15:58, Gunter Sandner escribi¢ a Alle:


    @MSGID: 2:310/31.2@fidonet e7bcf7b0
    @PID: OpenXP/5.0.45 (Win32)
    @CHRS: CP437 2
    @TZUTC: 0200
    Hello together!

    Is the charset kludge of this message as intedend like this:
    CHRS: CP437 2
    ???


    Ciao
    Gunter

    --
    Some umlauts

    --- OpenXP 5.0.45
    * Origin: Test-Origin (2:310/31.2)
    SEEN-BY: 15/0 19/36 102/127 103/705 106/201 116/18 120/302 331 123/140 153/0
    SEEN-BY: 153/105 135 141 757 802 6809 7715 154/10 203/0 218/700 221/0 6 360
    SEEN-BY: 222/2 229/101 230/150 152 240/1120 5832 250/1 261/38 100 1466 266/512
    SEEN-BY: 267/67 155 275/100 280/464 2000 5003 5555 5556 282/1031 1056
    1060
    SEEN-BY: 288/100 291/100 111 292/854 8125 310/31 313/41 320/119 219 335/364
    SEEN-BY: 340/400 341/66 342/17 396/45 423/120 460/58 640/1321 712/848 770/1
    SEEN-BY: 801/161 189 2320/105 2452/250 3634/12 4500/1 5020/1042 5075/35 @PATH: 310/31 280/464 5555 221/6 153/757 261/38

    Yes, It is

    Un saludo,
    Angel Ripoll
    aripoll @ zruspas.org

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Aug 25 21:17:19 2020
    On 24/08/2020 10:23 a.m., Michiel van der Vlist : Gunter Sandner wrote:


    Is the charset kludge of this message as intedend like this:
    CHRS: CP437 2
    ???

    Check.

    But why CP437? CP850, Latin-1 or UTF-8 are mostly used in Western Europe.

    Some umlauts ������

    Looks good.


    Cheers, Michiel

    Gunter's message arrived with CHRS: CP437 2, and the umlauts rendered perfectly
    here. But you quoted-reply with CHRS: CP1252 2, and that made the umlauts unreadable. :( Wouldn't it be best to reply with the same CHRS setting - especially if quoting the original 8-bit characters?

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to August Abolins on Tue Aug 25 21:58:32 2020
    Hi, August!

    25  ¢£ 20 21:17, August Abolins -> Michiel van der Vlist:

    @CHRS: UTF-8 4

    ------------^^^^^^^

    @TZUTC: 0300
    On 24/08/2020 10:23 a.m., Michiel van der Vlist : Gunter Sandner wrote:


    Is the charset kludge of this message as intedend like this:
    CHRS: CP437 2
    ???

    Check.

    But why CP437? CP850, Latin-1 or UTF-8 are mostly used in Western Europe.

    Some umlauts ������

    Looks good.

    Not at all. Michiel should have decoded correctly in 1252 if it answered by 1252.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to August Abolins on Tue Aug 25 21:48:28 2020
    Hello August,

    On Tuesday August 25 2020 21:17, you wrote to me:

    But why CP437? CP850, Latin-1 or UTF-8 are mostly used in Western
    Europe.

    Some umlauts #ÿý#ÿý#ÿý#ÿý#ÿý#ÿý

    And now it does not look so good any more...

    Looks good.


    Cheers, Michiel

    Gunter's message arrived with CHRS: CP437 2, and the umlauts rendered perfectly here. But you quoted-reply with CHRS: CP1252 2, and that
    made the umlauts unreadable. :(

    Not here. TTMBOK they were correctly translated to CP1252 by my Golded.

    Wouldn't it be best to reply with the same CHRS setting - especially
    if quoting the original 8-bit characters?

    Why? Keep in mind that this is the test area. :-)


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Stas Mishchenkov on Tue Aug 25 22:01:06 2020
    Hello Stas,

    On Tuesday August 25 2020 21:58, you wrote to August Abolins:

    Looks good.

    Not at all. Michiel should have decoded correctly in 1252 if it
    answered by 1252.

    What makes you say it was not correctly encoded?

    If you can not handle CP1252, try to treat it as Latin-1. CP1252 and Latin-1 are the same except for 0x80 - 0x9F.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Aug 26 12:58:56 2020
    Hi, Michiel!

    25  ¢£ 20 22:01, Michiel van der Vlist -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    Not at all. Michiel should have decoded correctly in 1252 if it
    answered by 1252.

    MvdV> What makes you say it was not correctly encoded?

    No proble. Everything was decoded correctly on my side.

    MvdV> If you can not handle CP1252, try to treat it as Latin-1. CP1252
    MvdV> and Latin-1 are the same except for 0x80 - 0x9F.

    I am not sure that it is worth making such approximations in the Cyrillic environment.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Stas Mishchenkov on Wed Aug 26 12:48:13 2020
    Hello Stas,

    On Wednesday August 26 2020 12:58, you wrote to me:

    No proble. Everything was decoded correctly on my side.

    Good ;-)

    MvdV>> If you can not handle CP1252, try to treat it as Latin-1.
    MvdV>> CP1252 and Latin-1 are the same except for 0x80 - 0x9F.

    I am not sure that it is worth making such approximations in the
    Cyrillic environment.

    Probably not...


    Cheers, Michiel

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