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  • What untruths is Russia spreading about Nazis in Ukraine?

    From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Alexander Koryagin on Sun Mar 27 02:27:38 2022
    Here's a story about Nazi's in Ukraine.

    https://youtu.be/2gNp0PfK0CI


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Alexander Koryagin on Sun Mar 27 03:00:36 2022
    Here's a story about Nazi's in Ukraine.
    https://youtu.be/2gNp0PfK0CI

    And here is another from 2016.

    https://youtu.be/-Gy7poRbUHY?list=PL7dQWce1VEofzYCnBbZvYq4O1FlyWvqCO

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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5075/128.130 to Alan Ianson on Sun Mar 27 16:36:01 2022
    Hi, Alan Ianson!
    I read your message from 27.03.2022 12:27

    AI> Here's a story about Nazi's in Ukraine.
    AI> https://youtu.be/2gNp0PfK0CI

    Yes, the percentage of ultra-nationalists in Ukraine is not big -- it is correct. But exactly they were the main force in the state coup in 2014
    in Kiev. As I said you once, most of the people in a every country are a
    herd and a small group of rascals can catch the country's power and
    after that no "fair" elections could help to dislodge them from actual
    power. So, Zelensky cannot do any decisions without ultra-natinalists approval. It is correct, and this has been the main reason why peace in Donbass was impossible for latest 8 years.

    Bye, Alan!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From Dmitry Protasoff@2:5001/100.1 to alexander koryagin on Sun Mar 27 16:58:48 2022
    Hello, alexander!

    Sunday March 27 2022 16:36, you wrote to Alan Ianson:

    Yes, the percentage of ultra-nationalists in Ukraine is not big -- it
    is correct. But exactly they were the main force in the state coup in
    2014 in Kiev. As I said you once, most of the people in a every

    Not really. It wasn't a coup, it was mass uprising, like in late 80s in Eastern Europe.
    It was widely supported by people from different political and social groups.

    dislodge them from actual power. So, Zelensky cannot do any decisions without ultra-natinalists approval. It is correct, and this has been

    Any decisions?! Are you for real?

    the main reason why peace in Donbass was impossible for latest 8
    years.

    No, main reason was Putin's idea that Ukraine should not exsist in current borders.
    That's why the whole "DNR/LNR" project was started in 2014.

    Best regards,
    dp.

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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5075/128.130 to Dmitry Protasoff on Mon Mar 28 09:40:43 2022
    Hi, Dmitry Protasoff!
    I read your message from 27.03.2022 16:58

    ak>> Yes, the percentage of ultra-nationalists in Ukraine is not
    ak>> big -- it is correct. But exactly they were the main force
    ak>> in the state coup in 2014 in Kiev. As I said you once, most
    ak>> of the people in a every
    DP> Not really. It wasn't a coup, it was mass uprising, like in
    DP> late 80s in Eastern Europe. It was widely supported by people
    DP> from different political and social groups.

    It was not mass uprising -- everything was made on the Maidan square by
    a few thousand armed people. It happened because Yanukovich didn't want
    to disperse them with force. He believed in democracy. ;-)

    Bye, Dmitry!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From Dmitry Protasoff@2:5001/100.1 to alexander koryagin on Mon Mar 28 11:20:02 2022
    *** Answering a msg posted in area carbonArea (Carbon Area).

    Hello, alexander!

    Monday March 28 2022 09:40, you wrote to me:

    Not really. It wasn't a coup, it was mass uprising, like in
    late 80s in Eastern Europe. It was widely supported by people
    from different political and social groups.

    It was not mass uprising -- everything was made on the Maidan square
    by a few thousand armed people. It happened because Yanukovich didn't

    No, looks like you never spoke to Ukranians who where supplying Maidan protesters 24/7?
    Tens of thousands people where involved. And 90% of protesters were unarmed.

    But it wasn't on Fake News Russian TV, for sure. And level of coopertion in Kiev was fantastic, I've never seen anything like this in Russia where most of the things are State controlled.

    want to disperse them with force. He believed in democracy. ;-)

    He started to use force since the begining, when he decided to remove people who where peacefully protesting because of "christmas tree" and brought armed riot police into center of Kiev.



    Best regards,
    dp.

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