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  • Herd Immunity

    From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to All on Thu Apr 23 19:43:52 2020
    Hello Everybody,

    Maybe Swedes aren't so mad after all.
    Could be they actually do have a plan.

    Herd Immunity Thresshold.
    The Golden Chalice every country on Earth is chasing after.
    British Prime Minister Boris Johnson thought he had it.
    But found out he had COVID-19 instead.
    Now it appears likely Stockholm will soon have it.
    The real thing, without the death that comes with it.

    What is this mad plan?
    Swedes are not shy about telling the world.
    The solution is to have no plan.
    That is the plan.

    Source: CNBC

    Unlike its neighbors, Sweden did not impose a lockdown amid the
    coronavirus outbreak.

    The strategy — aimed at building a broad-base of immunity while
    protecting at-risk groups like the elderly — has proved controversial.

    But Sweden’s chief epidemiologist has said “herd immunity” could be reached in Stockholm within weeks.

    Read more:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/no-lockdown-in-sweden-but-stockholm -could-see-herd-immunity-in-weeks.html


    Still stuck in lockdown,
    --Lee

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  • From Bjrn Felten@2:203/2 to Lee Lofaso on Thu Apr 23 20:17:15 2020
    Unlike its neighbors, Sweden did not impose a lockdown amid the coronavirus outbreak.

    Actually we did, but it's entirely voluntary. We are not dumb, we understand that we have to isolate ourselves to keep the virus at bay.

    If the government had issued a lockdown, with legal punishment if we didn't obey, we would probably have revolted, now we haven't.

    I myself has had only indirect contact with other people, such as the postman and the food delivery man.

    I'm 72, I'm at risk. Would I be as stupid as e.g. the Trumpsters that are gathering unprotected in huge groups to object to the lockdown? Of course not, I understand the reason for it.



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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Bj÷rn Felten on Thu Apr 23 21:13:28 2020
    Bjorn,

    If the government had issued a lockdown, with legal punishment if we
    didn't obey, we would probably have revolted, now we haven't.

    I put my money on total falsification of the data ... such as in the UK and the USA to name just those.

    There is no other logical explanation.

    I'm 72, I'm at risk. Would I be as stupid as e.g. the Trumpsters that
    are gathering unprotected in huge groups to object to the lockdown? Of course not, I understand the reason for it.

    The Trumpsters are maybe providing the key to the solution ... if they all get infected soon enough, spread the thing fast enough and then die, the voter-base of Trump will effectively have died under his policies.

    \%/@rd

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  • From Richard Miles@1:3634/24 to Ward Dossche on Thu Apr 23 15:30:42 2020
    On 23 Apr 2020, Ward Dossche said the following...

    The Trumpsters are maybe providing the key to the solution ... if they
    all get infected soon enough, spread the thing fast enough and then die, the voter-base of Trump will effectively have died under his policies.

    Heh. Sad but true.

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Ward Dossche on Thu Apr 23 22:06:44 2020
    I put my money on total falsification of the data ... such as in the UK and the USA to name just those.

    In a massively bureaucratic country like Sweden? Never. 8-)

    There is no other logical explanation.

    The USA has tested about 1% of it's population -- and *not* counting. Status of 99% is "unknown". Now *there's" a major uncertainty...



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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Ward Dossche on Fri Apr 24 06:59:24 2020
    I put my money on total falsification of the data ... such as in the UK and the USA to name just those.

    According to The New York Times, it seems like Belgium and Sweden are the only two countries that are reporting fairly accurate data:

    http://tinyurl.com/y7p5h2w5




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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Björn Felten on Fri Apr 24 15:04:36 2020
    The USA has tested about 1% of it's population -- and *not* counting. Status of 99% is "unknown". Now *there's" a major uncertainty...

    I fear the worst there if everything is true which I read about it.

    \%/@rd

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Björn Felten on Fri Apr 24 15:10:11 2020
    According to The New York Times, it seems like Belgium and Sweden are
    the only two countries that are reporting fairly accurate data:

    It all depends on how you count. Here it is "if you die qnd it could have been Covid19, then you're counted as such even if there's no pisitive test".

    Some people started comparing our deathrates with the ones from previous years, and the conclusion is there has been some liberal counting, probably people dying from natural causes (especially in retirement homees) were counted as Covid19 anyway.

    \%/@rd

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  • From Daniel@1:340/7 to Ward Dossche on Fri Apr 24 11:52:00 2020
    Ward Dossche wrote to Bjorn Felten <=-

    The USA has tested about 1% of it's population -- and *not* counting. Status of 99% is "unknown". Now *there's" a major uncertainty...

    I fear the worst there if everything is true which I read about it.

    My wife mentioned a suspicion that the disease landed in the US earlier than thought. Then we both read that cases misdiagnosed in early February were, indeed, Covid 19. That was a month earlier than the first reported deaths... Blew me away.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ward Dossche on Sat Apr 25 00:15:22 2020
    Hello Ward,

    The USA has tested about 1% of it's population -- and *not* counting.
    Status of 99% is "unknown". Now *there's" a major uncertainty...

    I fear the worst there if everything is true which I read about it.

    OMG!
    I am a dead man walking!
    What am I gonna do?
    Quick!
    Find me a cat!
    They have 9 lives!

    --Lee

    --
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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Daniel on Sat Apr 25 14:41:03 2020
    My wife mentioned a suspicion that the disease landed in the US earlier
    than
    thought. Then we both read that cases misdiagnosed in early February
    were,
    indeed, Covid 19. That was a month earlier than the first reported
    deaths...
    Blew me away.

    I think that's correct too.

    I expect it landed here (Belgium) before New Year and I had already symptoms when it was just propagating in China ... just didn't know or realize it was Covid19.

    \%/@rd

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