Hello Everybody,

"There's no jobs on a dead planet." ~Al Gore

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/al-gore-davos -climate-crisis-interview-941722/


At age 71, he should know. Quite unlike some 17-year-old kid with
asperger's who has a thumb for travel.

--Lee

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24 Jan 20 13:02:49, Lee Lofaso wrote to All:

Hello Everybody,

"There's no jobs on a dead planet." ~Al Gore

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/al-gore-davos -climate-crisis-interview-941722/

RS: Some activists describe Donald Trump as the greatest thing to happen to the climate movement, in the sense of it generating activism and energy. How do you see him as a catalyst to the movement, in the three years since he’s been in office?

Al Gore: Well, there’s no doubt, and I’ve said this since the election that, in physics, there’s a well-known principle: “For every action, there’s an equal and opposite reaction.” And the reaction to Trump’s anti-climate extremism is a very powerful new element in the climate movement, for sure.

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“For every
action, there’s an equal and opposite reaction.” And the reaction to Trump’s anti-climate extremism is a very powerful new element in the climate movement, for sure.

Hmmm ... I'm agreeing with you? Something definitely's wrong here ... :-)

BTW there're some weird control characters in your text. I quoted some above.

\%/@rd

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25 Jan 20 12:45:40, Ward Dossche wrote to Oli:

“For every
action, there’s an equal and opposite reaction.” And the reaction to O>> Trump’s anti-climate extremism is a very powerful new element in the
climate movement, for sure.

Hmmm ... I'm agreeing with you? Something definitely's wrong here ... :-)

It's just a quote, not my own words ;).

BTW there're some weird control characters in your text. I quoted some

above.

UTF-8. It looks fine in GossipEd.

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Hi! Oli,

On 25 Jan 2020, Oli said the following...

Trump’s anti-climate extremism is a very powerful new element in

the

climate movement, for sure.

BTW there're some weird control characters in your text. I quoted

som

above.

UTF-8. It looks fine in GossipEd.

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It's garbage in both GoldEd and Mystic, and both are in UTF environments (of differing vesions of OSs). Just sayin'...

Cheers,
Paul.

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Hello Paul,

On Saturday January 25 2020 22:31, you wrote to Oli:

BTW there're some weird control characters in your text. I

quoted som above.

UTF-8. It looks fine in GossipEd.

It's garbage in both GoldEd and Mystic, and both are in UTF
environments (of differing vesions of OSs). Just sayin'...

Golded and presumably Mystic as well has a very limited UTF-8 implementation. The characters in question are the opening and closing double quotes. (U"+01C) and (U+01D).

https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/quotes.html

Cheers, Michiel

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Hi! Michiel,

On 25 Jan 20 13:59, you wrote to me:

Golded and presumably Mystic as well has a very limited UTF-8 implementation. The characters in question are the opening and closing double quotes. (U"+01C) and (U+01D).

Yes. Those thoughts were flittering around my brainbox when I hit [Send]. It is for that reason that I end up renaming a lot of EwwToob video titles, for keeping. Other people call it OCD. :)

Thanks for your advice.

Cheers,
Paul.

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25 Jan 20 22:31, you wrote to me:

Hi! Oli,

BTW there're some weird control characters in your text. I

quoted som above.

UTF-8. It looks fine in GossipEd.

It's garbage in both GoldEd and Mystic, and both are in UTF
environments (of differing vesions of OSs). Just sayin'...

don't get me started on Mystic and garbage ... ;)

I never figured out how I can display UTF-8 text in golded. Is it possible? Can someone point me to the right configuration?


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Hi! Oli,

On 01/25/2020 11:42 PM, you wrote:

UTF-8. It looks fine in GossipEd.

It's garbage in both GoldEd and Mystic, and both are in UTF
environments (of differing vesions of OSs). Just sayin'...

Well, it/they look better in this environment and with NNTP +Thunderbird. I just don't know what will happen when I post the quoted section (just below) onwards. They are exactly the things that I re-place/type when the opportunity presents.

Al Gore: Well, there’s no doubt, and I’ve said this since the election

that, in physics, there’s a well-known principle: “For every action, there’s an equal and opposite reaction.” And the reaction to Trump’s anti-climate extremism is a very powerful new element in the climate movement, for sure.

don't get me started on Mystic and garbage ... ;)

Ooh! Cheeky boy! ;)

I never figured out how I can display UTF-8 text in golded. Is it
possible? Can someone point me to the right configuration?

It ain't easy nor consistent. Michiel will hint at that on occasion, too.

Cheers,
Paul.

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Hello Oli!

On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 at 14:42 +0100, you wrote to Paul Quinn:

I never figured out how I can display UTF-8 text in golded. Is it possible?

Not possible on Windows at least. GoldED does not support multibyte encoding internally, it can only export UTF-8 via xlat tables. Import is not possible.


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Hello Alexey,

On Sunday January 26 2020 16:15, you wrote to Oli:

I never figured out how I can display UTF-8 text in golded. Is it
possible?

Not possible on Windows at least. GoldED does not support multibyte encoding internally, it can only export UTF-8 via xlat tables. Import
is not possible.

Import is possible, though in a very limited way.

Here is my utf8_850.chs. It covers U+00C0 - U+00FF. That takes care of most accents and umlauts present in CP850.


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; file utf8_850.chs
;
; By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555
;
; This file is a Golded+ charset conversion module in text form.
;
; This module converts UTF-8 characters to IBM CP850 characters.
; For now only the characters in the range u+00C0 - u+00FF
;
; Characters outside this range are displayed as a rectangle followed by
; one, two or three nonsence characters.
;
;
; Format: ID, version, level,
; from charset, to charset,
; 128 entries: first & second byte
; "END"
; Lines beginning with a ";" or a ";" after the entries are comments
;
;
; cedilla = , ; dieresis = .. ; acute = '
; grave = ` ; circumflex = ^ ; ring = o
; tilde = ~ ; caron = v
; All of these are above the character, apart from the cedilla which is below. ;
; \ is the escape character: \0 means decimal zero,
; \dnnn where nnn is a decimal number, is the ordinal value of the character
; \xnn where nn is a hexadecimal number
; e.g.: \d32 is the ASCII space character
; Two \\ is the character "\" itself.
;
0 ; ID number
0 ; version number
;
4 2 ; level number to display, level number of table
;
UTF-8 ; from set
CP850 ; to set
;
\0 \xB7 ; 192 00C0 latin capital letter a with grave
\0 \xB5 ; 193 00C1 latin capital letter a with acute
\0 \xB6 ; 194 00C2 latin capital letter a with circumflex
\0 \xC7 ; 195 00C3 latin capital letter a with tilde
\0 \x8E ; 196 00C4 latin capital letter a with diaeresis
\0 \x8F ; 197 00C5 latin capital letter a with ring above
\0 \x92 ; 198 00C6 latin capital letter ae
\0 \x80 ; 199 00C7 latin capital letter c with cedilla
\0 \xD4 ; 200 00C8 latin capital letter e with grave
\0 \x90 ; 201 00C9 latin capital letter e with acute
\0 \xD2 ; 202 00CA latin capital letter e with circumflex
\0 \xD3 ; 203 00CB latin capital letter e with diaeresis
\0 \xDE ; 204 00CC latin capital letter i with grave
\0 \xD6 ; 205 00CD latin capital letter i with acute
\0 \xD7 ; 206 00CE latin capital letter i with circumflex
\0 \xD8 ; 207 00CF latin capital letter i with diaeresis
\0 \xD1 ; 208 00D0 latin capital letter eth (icelandic)
\0 \xA5 ; 209 00D1 latin capital letter n with tilde
\0 \xE3 ; 210 00D2 latin capital letter o with grave
\0 \xE0 ; 211 00D3 latin capital letter o with acute
\0 \xE2 ; 212 00D4 latin capital letter o with circumflex
\0 \xE5 ; 213 00D5 latin capital letter o with tilde
\0 \x99 ; 214 00D6 latin capital letter o with diaeresis
\0 \x9E ; 215 00D7 multiplication sign
\0 \x9D ; 216 00D8 latin capital letter o with stroke
\0 \xEB ; 217 00D9 latin capital letter u with grave
\0 \xE9 ; 218 00DA latin capital letter u with acute
\0 \xEA ; 219 00DB latin capital letter u with circumflex
\0 \x9A ; 220 00DC latin capital letter u with diaeresis
\0 \xED ; 221 00DD latin capital letter y with acute
\0 \xE7 ; 222 00DE latin capital letter thorn (icelandic)
\0 \xE1 ; 223 00DF latin small letter sharp s (german)
\0 \x85 ; 224 00E0 latin small letter a with grave
\0 \xA0 ; 225 00E1 latin small letter a with acute
\0 \x83 ; 226 00E2 latin small letter a with circumflex
\0 \x9C ; 227 00E3 English Pound sign �
;\0 \xC6 ; 227 00E3 latin small letter a with tilde
\0 \x84 ; 228 00E4 latin small letter a with diaeresis
;\0 \xBE ; 229 00E5 Yen sign
\0 \x86 ; 229 00E5 latin small letter a with ring above
\0 \x91 ; 230 00E6 latin small letter ae
\0 \x87 ; 231 00E7 latin small letter c with cedilla
\0 \x8A ; 232 00E8 latin small letter e with grave
\0 \x82 ; 233 00E9 latin small letter e with acute
\0 \x88 ; 234 00EA latin small letter e with circumflex
\0 \x89 ; 235 00EB latin small letter e with diaeresis
\0 \x8D ; 236 00EC latin small letter i with grave
\0 \xA1 ; 237 00ED latin small letter i with acute
\0 \x8C ; 238 00EE latin small letter i with circumflex
\0 \x8B ; 239 00EF latin small letter i with diaeresis
\0 \xD0 ; 240 00F0 latin small letter eth (icelandic)
\0 \xA4 ; 241 00F1 latin small letter n with tilde
\0 \x95 ; 242 00F2 latin small letter o with grave
\0 \xA2 ; 243 00F3 latin small letter o with acute
\0 \x93 ; 244 00F4 latin small letter o with circumflex
\0 \xE4 ; 245 00F5 latin small letter o with tilde
\0 \x94 ; 246 00F6 latin small letter o with diaeresis
\0 \xF6 ; 247 00F7 division sign
\0 \x9B ; 248 00F8 latin small letter o with stroke
\0 \x97 ; 249 00F9 latin small letter u with grave
\0 \xA3 ; 250 00FA latin small letter u with acute
\0 \x96 ; 251 00FB latin small letter u with circumflex
\0 \x81 ; 252 00FC latin small letter u with diaeresis
\0 \xEC ; 253 00FD latin small letter y with acute
\0 \xE8 ; 254 00FE latin small letter thorn (icelandic)
\0 \x98 ; 255 00FF latin small letter y with diaeresis
\0 \xFE ; 192 C0 �
\0 \xFE ; 193
\0 \0 ; 194 C2
\0 \0 ; 195 C3
\0 \xFE ; 196 C4
\0 \xFE ; 197
\0 \xFE ; 198
\0 \xFE ; 199
\0 \xFE ; 200
\0 \xFE ; 201
\0 \xFE ; 202
\0 \xFE ; 203
\0 \xFE ; 204
\0 \xFE ; 205
\0 \xFE ; 206
\0 \xFE ; 207
\0 \xFE ; 208 D0
\0 \xFE ; 209
\0 \xFE ; 210
\0 \xFE ; 211
\0 \xFE ; 212
\0 \xFE ; 213
\0 \xFE ; 214
\0 \xFE ; 215
\0 \xFE ; 216
\0 \xFE ; 217
\0 \xFE ; 218
\0 \xFE ; 219
\0 \xFE ; 220
\0 \xFE ; 221
\0 \xFE ; 222
\0 \xFE ; 223
\0 \xDF ; 224 E0 �
\0 \xDF ; 225
\0 \xDF ; 226
\0 \xDF ; 227
\0 \xDF ; 228
\0 \xDF ; 229
\0 \xDF ; 230
\0 \xDF ; 231
\0 \xDF ; 232
\0 \xDF ; 233
\0 \xDF ; 234
\0 \xDF ; 235
\0 \xDF ; 236
\0 \xDF ; 237
\0 \xDF ; 238
\0 \xDF ; 239
\0 \xDB ; 240 F0 �
\0 \xDB ; 241
\0 \xDB ; 242
\0 \xDB ; 243
\0 \xDB ; 244
\0 \xDB ; 245
\0 � ; 246
\0 \xDB ; 247
\0 \xDB ; 248
\0 \xDB ; 249
\0 \xDB ; 250
\0 \xDB ; 251
\0 \xDB ; 252
\0 \xDB ; 253
\0 \xDB ; 254
\0 \xDB ; 255
END
=== Cut ===


Cheers, Michiel

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