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    From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to All on Wed Oct 2 19:49:18 2019
    Hello Everybody,

    Peace between Ukraine and Russia. Is it possible?

    Source: DW

    The Ukrainian government signed an agreement Tuesday with pro-Russia separatists, Russia and European monitors that will allow a local
    election to be held in separatist-controlled regions in eastern
    Ukraine.

    The agreement was signed after the parties met in the Belarusian
    capital of Minsk, and is seen as a major step by the new Ukrainian
    government under President Volodymyr Zelenskiy toward resolution
    of the conflict in eastern Ukraine between Kyiv and pro-Russia
    separatists.

    In preparation for the election, the Ukrainian government and
    separatist leaders said they would withdraw troops from two locations
    in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions next week.

    No election 'under the gun'

    President Zelenskiy told reporters in Kyiv that Ukraine agreed to a
    local election only when Ukraine regains control of its borders with
    Russia. The president has faced criticism that Ukraine is giving
    concessions to Moscow and for following a policy of appeasement with
    Russia.

    Read more:

    https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-signs-key-agreement-with-pro-russia -separatists/a-50669547

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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5020/2140.2 to Lee Lofaso on Thu Oct 3 12:51:28 2019
    Hi, Lee Lofaso!
    I read your message from 02.10.2019 18:49

    LL> The Ukrainian government signed an agreement Tuesday with
    LL> pro-Russia separatists, Russia and European monitors that will
    LL> allow a local election to be held in separatist-controlled
    LL> regions in eastern Ukraine.
    LL>

    It was indeed an awful, torturous choice for the Ukrainian
    nationalists. They could not even sleep for a long time. They
    ceaselessly chose, till diarrhea -- should they negotiate with Russian speaking Dombas for peace, or maybe they have enough power to cut their throats? ;=)))

    Bye, Lee!
    Alexander Koryagin
    fido7.fidonews 2019

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to alexander koryagin on Fri Oct 4 02:56:49 2019
    Hello Alexander,

    The Ukrainian government signed an agreement Tuesday with
    pro-Russia separatists, Russia and European monitors that will
    allow a local election to be held in separatist-controlled
    regions in eastern Ukraine.


    It was indeed an awful, torturous choice for the Ukrainian
    nationalists. They could not even sleep for a long time. They
    ceaselessly chose, till diarrhea -- should they negotiate with Russian speaking Dombas for peace, or maybe they have enough power to cut their throats? ;=)))

    The old guard in Ukraine has been dismissed.

    With a newly-elected president who remains highly popular in Ukraine,
    along with his party being in firm control of the legislature, it seems
    peace is possible. But that does take both sides to make that happen.

    --Lee

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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5020/2140.2 to Lee Lofaso on Fri Oct 4 13:44:16 2019
    Hi, Lee Lofaso!
    I read your message from 04.10.2019 01:56

    LL>>> The Ukrainian government signed an agreement Tuesday with pro-
    LL>>> Russia separatists, Russia and European monitors that will allow
    LL>>> a local election to be held in separatist-controlled regions in
    LL>>> eastern Ukraine.

    It was indeed an awful, torturous choice for the Ukrainian
    ak>> nationalists. They could not even sleep for a long time. They
    ak>> ceaselessly chose, till diarrhea -- should they negotiate with
    ak>> Russian speaking Dombas for peace, or maybe they have enough power
    ak>> to cut their throats? ;=)))

    LL> The old guard in Ukraine has been dismissed. With a newly-elected
    LL> president who remains highly popular in Ukraine, along with his
    LL> party being in firm control of the legislature, it seems peace is
    LL> possible. But that does take both sides to make that happen.

    In these case Ukraine ultra-nationalists just will do what they did when Yanukovich was in power - they will come to Kiev and block the new
    president as if he were Yanukovich, using force. These people are sure
    that they can do anything in Ukraine and nobody can stop them. That why
    the peaceful solution in Ukraine is quite far from reality.

    PS: BTW, according to the latest nationalistic law, from 2020 all the
    Russian schools in Ukraine will be banned from teaching in Russian, all Russian speaking people - official, doctors, sellers and even cafe
    workers must obligatory speak in Ukrainian or be fined. All these don't promote any long-term reconciliation between Russian and Ukrainian
    diasporas, or, to more exact, between Ukraine Russian-speaking
    south-east and Ukraine west.

    Bye, Lee!
    Alexander Koryagin
    fido7.fidonews 2019

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