The domain fidonet.org was renewed into 2026 ...

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Hello Ward Dossche!

** On Tuesday 27.02.24 - 00:04, Ward Dossche wrote to All:

The domain fidonet.org was renewed into 2026 ...

Is there any reason why fidonet.fidonet.org can't properly
point to fidonet.org and not www.fidonet.org?

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August,

The domain fidonet.org was renewed into 2026 ...

Is there any reason why fidonet.fidonet.org can't properly
point to fidonet.org and not www.fidonet.org?

Probably...

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//Hello Ward,//

on *26/02/2024* at *22:04:11* You wrote in area *FIDONET.ORG*
to *All* about *"Renewall"*.

The domain fidonet.org was renewed into 2026 ...

Strange that you changed it to a private registration. anything to hide Dossche?



Regards,
Bart Verhaeghe
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Bartje,

The domain fidonet.org was renewed into 2026 ...

Strange that you changed it to a private registration. anything to hide Dossche?

What is a "private registration"?

It just costs me money ...

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Hi Bart,

On 2024-08-05 15:29:53, Ward Dossche wrote to you:

The domain fidonet.org was renewed into 2026 ...

Strange that you changed it to a private registration. anything to hide
Dossche?

What is a "private registration"?

Mogelijk ben je alleen Bart maar aan het stangen hiermee... ;-)

Maar zie: https://who.is/whois/fidonet.org

Daar staat bij veel regels: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY. Maar volgens mij is dat tegenwoordig min of meer de standaard dat ze niet meer je telefoonnummer(s), adres, etc tonen...


Bye, Wilfred.

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//Hello Ward,//

on *5/08/2024* at *13:29:53* You wrote in area *FIDONET.ORG*
to *Bart Verhaeghe* about *"Re: Renewall"*.

Bartje,

The domain fidonet.org was renewed into 2026 ...

Strange that you changed it to a private registration. anything to hide
Dossche?

What is a "private registration"?

You can ask your provider.
And no i'm not bullying you.

it's just your registration details are hidden from the whois for privacy reasons you need to pay extra, for this.
but I think this is now the standard procedure for the whois lookups.

but you must know this because you worked for RTT (Belgacom).

It just costs me money ...

it cost's money to everybody who have a domain names.


Regards,
Bart Verhaeghe
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//Hello Wilfred,//

on *5/08/2024* at *13:40:33* You wrote in area *FIDONET.ORG*
to *Bart Verhaeghe* about *"Re: Renewall"*.

Hi Bart,

On 2024-08-05 15:29:53, Ward Dossche wrote to you:

The domain fidonet.org was renewed into 2026 ...

Strange that you changed it to a private registration. anything to hide
Dossche?

What is a "private registration"?

Mogelijk ben je alleen Bart maar aan het stangen hiermee... ;-)

Nee, ik was ernstig.
Ik hou mij niet meer bezig met kinderachtigheden.

Maar zie: https://who.is/whois/fidonet.org

Daar staat bij veel regels: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY. Maar volgens mij is
dat tegenwoordig min of meer de standaard dat ze niet meer je telefoonnummer(s), adres, etc tonen...

Dat weet ik nu ondertussen ook maar dat zal nog niet lang zo zijn want,
er voor moest je voor de private registraties bij betalen.



Regards,
Bart Verhaeghe
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it's just your registration details are hidden from the whois for
privacy reasons you need to pay extra, for this.

I never asked for it, I never paid for it and I never bothered about it.

but you must know this because you worked for RTT (Belgacom).

I was "employed" ...

it cost's money to everybody who have a domain names.

Well, what is your problem? If it were so, is it your money?

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//Hello Ward,//

on *5/08/2024* at *20:59:59* You wrote in area *FIDONET.ORG*
to *Bart Verhaeghe* about *"Re: Renewall"*.

it's just your registration details are hidden from the whois for
privacy reasons you need to pay extra, for this.

I never asked for it, I never paid for it and I never bothered about it.

Either did I.
Now it's a standard procedure for "privacy reason" You know there is no privacy anymore in this life you, know it and I know it.

but you must know this because you worked for RTT (Belgacom).

I was "employed" ...

Good for you.

it cost's money to everybody who have a domain names.

Well, what is your problem? If it were so, is it your money?

nope but it's seem that you are losing sleep for it.


Regards,
Bart Verhaeghe
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nope but it's seem that you are losing sleep for it.

I lost sleep the 8 months I went daily to the hospital to be with my dying wife.

I lost sleep because of the madhouse that started after she passed.

I lost sleep because I was desperate then.

I'm not losing any sleep over something as irrelevant as the thread which you started.

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//Hello Ward,//

on *5/08/2024* at *23:25:51* You wrote in area *FIDONET.ORG*
to *Bart Verhaeghe* about *"Re: Renewall"*.

nope but it's seem that you are losing sleep for it.

I lost sleep the 8 months I went daily to the hospital to be with my
dying wife.

I lost sleep because of the madhouse that started after she passed.

I'm sorry about your wife, I did not know that she passed away, so my condolences.

I lost sleep because I was desperate then.

Just enjoy your life.
Go to your boat in Nieuwpoort get the wind in your sails, go where the wind brings you.

But please don't be desperate.





Regards,
Bart Verhaeghe
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I'm sorry about your wife, I did not know that she passed away, so my condolences.

Thank you...

Go to your boat in Nieuwpoort get the wind in your sails, go where the
wind brings you.

I will probably be there Monday 12th through Friday 16th early in the day. You could come visit ... bring 'babelutten' and ice cream. I've got wine and WestVleteren.

Maybe Niels could come as well. And Rudi is in Blankenberge ... Hmmm, that's a trip by tram though ...

We could have a genuine R29-CON ...

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//Hello Ward,//

on *6/08/2024* at *23:33:09* You wrote in area *FIDONET.ORG*
to *Bart Verhaeghe* about *"Re: Renewall"*.

I'm sorry about your wife, I did not know that she passed away, so my
condolences.

Thank you...

Go to your boat in Nieuwpoort get the wind in your sails, go where the
wind brings you.

I will probably be there Monday 12th through Friday 16th early in the
day. You could come visit ... bring 'babelutten' and ice cream. I've got wine and WestVleteren.

Sorry but I only drink Coca cola zero or water.

Maybe Niels could come as well. And Rudi is in Blankenberge ... Hmmm, that's a trip by tram though ...

We could have a genuine R29-CON ...

If you let me know in time when, maybe it could happen.



Regards,
Bart Verhaeghe
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Hello Ward,

on 6/08/2024 at 23:33:09 You wrote in area FIDONET.ORG
to Bart Verhaeghe about "Re: Renewall".

I'm sorry about your wife, I did not know that she passed away, so my
condolences.

Thank you...

Go to your boat in Nieuwpoort get the wind in your sails, go where the
wind brings you.

I will probably be there Monday 12th through Friday 16th early in the
day. You could come visit ... bring 'babelutten' and ice cream. I've got wine and WestVleteren.

Sorry but I only drink Coca cola zero or water.

Maybe Niels could come as well. And Rudi is in Blankenberge ... Hmmm, that's a trip by tram though ...

We could have a genuine R29-CON ...

If you let me know in time when, maybe it could happen.



Regards,
Bart Verhaeghe
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Bart Verhaeghe
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Sorry but I only drink Coca cola zero or water.

Plenty of water in Nieuwpoort.

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//Hello Ward,//

on *10/08/2024* at *11:41:12* You wrote in area *FIDONET.ORG*
to *Bart Verhaeghe* about *"Re: Renewall"*.

Sorry but I only drink Coca cola zero or water.

Plenty of water in Nieuwpoort.

Has the eagle landed in Nieuwpoort?

babeluttes and ice-cream is ready.


Regards,
Bart Verhaeghe
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Bart,

Has the eagle landed in Nieuwpoort?

babeluttes and ice-cream is ready.

You didn't make it ....

Go easy on the icecream.

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//Hello Ward,//

on *17/08/2024* at *8:55:12* You wrote in area *FIDONET.ORG*
to *Bart Verhaeghe* about *"Re: Renewall"*.

Bart,

Has the eagle landed in Nieuwpoort?

babeluttes and ice-cream is ready.

You didn't make it ....

Of course, I did not make it your Boat in Nieuwpoort must be on a top secret location, as you did not tell
where it's laying.

Go easy on the icecream.

I did not try the ice cream I'm waiting for you.


Regards,
Bart Verhaeghe
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//Hello Ward,//

on *17/08/2024* at *8:55:12* You wrote in area *FIDONET.ORG*
to *Bart Verhaeghe* about *"Re: Renewall"*.

Bart,

Has the eagle landed in Nieuwpoort?

babeluttes and ice-cream is ready.

You didn't make it ....

Never thought about software on your phone? So we can reach you when you are on your boat in Nieuwpoort?
You have a lot of point software for Android and Apple for free.


Regards,
Bart Verhaeghe
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Bart,

Never thought about software on your phone? So we can reach you when you are on your boat in Nieuwpoort?
You have a lot of point software for Android and Apple for free.

Do I have to be reachable all the time?

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//Hello Ward,//

on *18/08/2024* at *18:35:07* You wrote in area *FIDONET.ORG*
to *Bart Verhaeghe* about *"Re: Renewall"*.

Bart,

Never thought about software on your phone? So we can reach you when you
are on your boat in Nieuwpoort?
You have a lot of point software for Android and Apple for free.

Do I have to be reachable all the time?

of course you are the ZC :-)

Regards,
Bart Verhaeghe
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Bart,

Do I have to be reachable all the time?

of course you are the ZC :-)

It's not in my job description.

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//Hello Ward,//

on *18/08/2024* at *20:12:46* You wrote in area *FIDONET.ORG*
to *Bart Verhaeghe* about *"Re: Renewall"*.

Bart,

Do I have to be reachable all the time?

of course you are the ZC :-)

It's not in my job description.

explain me your job description than.




Regards,
Bart Verhaeghe
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Hello, Bart Verhaeghe.
On 18/8/24 5:55 you wrote:

Never thought about software on your phone? So we can reach you
when you are on your boat in Nieuwpoort? You have a lot of point software for Android and Apple for free.

A lot? One for Android, zero for iOS, AFAIK...

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Never thought about software on your phone? So we can reach you
when you are on your boat in Nieuwpoort? You have a lot of point
software for Android and Apple for free.

A lot? One for Android, zero for iOS, AFAIK...

Two for Android? I thought ...

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Ward Dossche -> Carlos Navarro:

Never thought about software on your phone? So we can reach you
when you are on your boat in Nieuwpoort? You have a lot of point
software for Android and Apple for free.

A lot? One for Android, zero for iOS, AFAIK...

Two for Android? I thought ...

The other one is cheap but not free...

Carlos

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A lot? One for Android, zero for iOS, AFAIK...

Two for Android? I thought ...

The other one is cheap but not free...

I don't think I ever paid anything for Fido-software ... it's a hobby, also for those developing it...

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//Hello Ward,//

on *22/08/2024* at *16:31:37* You wrote in area *FIDONET.ORG*
to *Carlos Navarro* about *"Re: Renewall"*.

A lot? One for Android, zero for iOS, AFAIK...

Two for Android? I thought ...

The other one is cheap but not free...

I don't think I ever paid anything for Fido-software ... it's a hobby, also for those developing it...

It's true.
but in the past, some people wanted to earn money from fidonet and from a bbs.
they have had to accept that it is impossible.

But Ward, your ftp is still offline.

Please fix it I need the latest nodelist. .


Regards,
Bart Verhaeghe
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Bartjeu,

But Ward, your ftp is still offline.

Please fix it I need the latest nodelist. .

Since midnight 12 people have collected a nodelist via FTP.

I don't know what your problem is ... your NC should be able to help you as well.

\%/@rd

(usually this triggers Wilfred and Tommi)

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Hi Ward,

On 2024-08-23 12:48:07, you wrote to Bart Verhaeghe:

But Ward, your ftp is still offline.

Please fix it I need the latest nodelist. .

Since midnight 12 people have collected a nodelist via FTP.

I don't know what your problem is ... your NC should be able to help you as
well.

\%/@rd

(usually this triggers Wilfred and Tommi)

Since you asked I tried ftp to the link in the nodelist. ;-)

First: IPv6 isn't working. Probably because your (ancient) ftp software doesn't support it, so it takes a while (like 5 minutes) to first timeout on IPv6 and then get an IPv4 connect. So for ftp you should use a different host name that doesn't resolve to an IPv6 address! And maybe this is the case for your http server too?

# ftp many-glacier.dyndns.org
Trying 2a02:a03f:83a9:c400:4df3:890a:8ec1:7cc0:21 ...
ftp: Can't connect to `2a02:a03f:83a9:c400:4df3:890a:8ec1:7cc0:21': Connection timed out
Trying 91.179.8.125:21 ...
Connected to many-glacier.dyndns.org.
220 Xitami FTP 2.4d9 (c) 1991-98 iMatix <http://www.imatix.com>
Name (many-glacier.dyndns.org:root):

'anonymous' login works, but after that things get difficult:

ls

421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection.

And that is the response I get to every command I tried...


So although, as Bart claims, your ftp server is not offline, but it's not usable imho... On the other hand your http server works fine, and is much more convenient to get the nodelist (and other files)...


Bye, Wilfred.

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//Hello Ward,//

on *23/08/2024* at *10:48:07* You wrote in area *FIDONET.ORG*
to *Bart Verhaeghe* about *"Re: Renewall"*.

Bartjeu,

But Ward, your ftp is still offline.

Please fix it I need the latest nodelist. .

Since midnight 12 people have collected a nodelist via FTP.

tell the truth and no more lies.

I don't know what your problem is ... your NC should be able to help you as well.

It's easy to take the problem elsewhere and not solve your problem.

ping many-glacier.dyndns.org

Pinging many-glacier.dyndns.org [91.179.8.125] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 91.179.8.125: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=58
Reply from 91.179.8.125: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=58
Reply from 91.179.8.125: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=58
Reply from 91.179.8.125: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=58

Ping statistics for 91.179.8.125:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 22ms, Maximum = 29ms, Average = 26ms


tracert many-glacier.dyndns.org

Tracing route to many-glacier.dyndns.org [91.179.8.125]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 17 ms 16 ms 15 ms 185.132.187.126
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 * * 13 ms lag-1-1000.ibrmar6.isp.proximus.be [91.183.246.171]
5 17 ms 28 ms 18 ms 91.183.241.223
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 29 ms 33 ms 23 ms 125.8-179-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [91.179.8.125]

Trace complete.


ok try to connect to the ftp. tra


ftp many-glacier.dyndns.org
Connected to many-glacier.dyndns.org.
220 Xitami FTP 2.4d9 (c) 1991-98 iMatix <http://www.imatix.com>
500 'OPTS UTF8 ON' is not a valid command
User (many-glacier.dyndns.org:(none)): anonymous
331 Anonymous access ok: give e-mail address as password
Password:
230 User anonymous logged-in

ls

200 Command okay
200 Command okay



It would be better to rent a web hosting from a professional than being stingy.



Regards,
Bart Verhaeghe
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//Hello Wilfred,//

on *23/08/2024* at *11:39:48* You wrote in area *FIDONET.ORG*
to *Ward Dossche* about *"Re: Renewall"*.

Since you asked I tried ftp to the link in the nodelist. ;-)

First: IPv6 isn't working. Probably because your (ancient) ftp software doesn't support it, so it takes a while (like 5 minutes) to first
timeout on IPv6 and then get an IPv4 connect. So for ftp you should use
a different host name that doesn't resolve to an IPv6 address! And maybe this is the case for your http server too?

# ftp many-glacier.dyndns.org
Trying 2a02:a03f:83a9:c400:4df3:890a:8ec1:7cc0:21 ... ftp: Can't connect to `2a02:a03f:83a9:c400:4df3:890a:8ec1:7cc0:21': Connection timed out Trying 91.179.8.125:21 ...
Connected to many-glacier.dyndns.org.
220 Xitami FTP 2.4d9 (c) 1991-98 iMatix <http://www.imatix.com> Name (many-glacier.dyndns.org:root):

'anonymous' login works, but after that things get difficult:

ls

421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection.

And that is the response I get to every command I tried...

So although, as Bart claims, your ftp server is not offline, but it's
not usable imho... On the other hand your http server works fine, and is much more convenient to get the nodelist (and other files)...

very accurate description of the problem Wilfred.
if he forces to bind the ftp serer to ipv4 the problem should be solved I think.
or rent a webhosting.


Regards,
Bart Verhaeghe
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Bart,

It would be better to rent a web hosting from a professional than being stingy.

Stop being so pissy ... in case you're unaware, nobody gives a shit.

\%/@rd

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//Hello Ward,//

on *23/08/2024* at *21:45:51* You wrote in area *FIDONET.ORG*
to *Bart Verhaeghe* about *"Re: Renewall"*.

Bart,

It would be better to rent a web hosting from a professional than being
stingy.

Stop being so pissy ... in case you're unaware, nobody gives a shit.

follow the fidonet rules Dossche.


Regards,
Bart Verhaeghe
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Bart,

It would be better to rent a web hosting from a professional than BV>BV>> being stingy.

Stop being so pissy ... in case you're unaware, nobody gives a shit.

follow the fidonet rules Dossche.

Reading P4 ... nope ,,, no rules about domains and webhosting nor FTP ... these are all services provided without obligation.

\%/@rd

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//Hello Ward,//

on *30/08/2024* at *10:03:21* You wrote in area *FIDONET.ORG*
to *Bart Verhaeghe* about *"Re: Renewall"*.

Bart,

It would be better to rent a web hosting from a professional

than BV>BV>> being stingy.

Stop being so pissy ... in case you're unaware, nobody gives a shit.

follow the fidonet rules Dossche.

Reading P4 ... nope ,,, no rules about domains and webhosting nor FTP ... these are all services provided without obligation.

forgot the whole P4?

This simply called keeping up with the new technolog's.

we should not expect that there will ever be an update on new technologies in the P4.



Regards,
Bart Verhaeghe
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On 01 Sep 24 16:07:35, Bart Verhaeghe said the following to Ward Dossche:

Reading P4 ... nope ,,, no rules about domains and webhosting nor FTP these are all services provided without obligation.

forgot the whole P4?

Please cite exactly where in P4 it mentions fidonet.org or FTP sites.

Nick

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Please cite exactly where in P4 it mentions fidonet.org or FTP sites.

You just entered the realm of crickets ...

\%/@rd

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