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    From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Richard Falken on Sun Nov 3 19:47:00 2019
    Hello Richard!

    ** 01.11.19 - 07:28, Richard Falken wrote to Nick Andre:

    I want to the see the new Terminator movie... looks good! Sortof hope its
    the last one though. That franchise has ran its course.

    In my opinion, Terminator II is the last Terminator film until proven
    otherwise by a film worthy of inclussion in my headcanon.

    Having never seen any of the films past T2 (Judgment Day), I just caught
    up with T3 (Rise of the Machines). I thought it was a good progression
    from T2. The special effects improved. The female villan 'bot was fun to watch.

    Based on some other reviews the following T4 (Salvation) and T5 (Genisys)
    are really bad and a waste of time.


    ../|ug

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Richard Falken on Sun Nov 3 19:58:00 2019
    Hello Richard!

    ** 01.11.19 - 07:28, Richard Falken wrote to Nick Andre:

    By: Nick Andre to August Abolins on Fri Nov 01 2019 01:45 am

    I want to the see the new Terminator movie... looks good! Sortof hope its
    the last one though. That franchise has ran its course.

    In my opinion, Terminator II is the last Terminator film until proven
    otherwise by a film worthy of inclussion in my headcanon.

    "Headcanon" = new word for me!

    Have you seen T3 ? It stayed with the otherwise awkward "from the future" idea and the continuing timeline of T1 and T2 quite well. The early
    action scenes with the large "wide load" truck chasing the little pickup
    were amazing as buildings were ripped up and hydro poles got torn loose.
    And after the hearse gets its top ripped off, Arnold saying "We need a new vehicle" ..was hilarious.



    ../|ug

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to August Abolins on Sun Nov 3 20:00:58 2019
    On 03 Nov 19 19:47:00, August Abolins said the following to Richard Falken:

    In my opinion, Terminator II is the last Terminator film until proven
    otherwise by a film worthy of inclussion in my headcanon.

    Having never seen any of the films past T2 (Judgment Day), I just caught up with T3 (Rise of the Machines). I thought it was a good progression from T2. The special effects improved. The female villan 'bot was fun to watch.

    Like the Godfather films, T3 just "insisted upon itself". 8-)

    Nick

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Nick Andre on Sun Nov 3 20:48:00 2019
    Hello Nick!

    ** 03.11.19 - 20:00, Nick Andre wrote to August Abolins:

    Like the Godfather films, T3 just "insisted upon itself". 8-)

    If you haven't seen T3 for awhile, you many not remember "the modem"
    scene. I thought that was hilarious - given the fact that the film was released in 2003 and a vast majority of everyone had already moved away
    from using actual modems.

    https://youtu.be/okJHQ3hjqrI

    Add to the confusion, the 'bot uses a cellphone to call a modem. Seeesh.
    She gets data and voice and complete images loading in a fraction of a second!


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to August Abolins on Mon Nov 4 03:00:00 2019
    August Abolins wrote to Nick Andre <=-

    Seeesh. She gets data and voice and complete images loading in a
    fraction of a second!

    She never used a BBS over POTS, did she? :D

    Later,
    Sean


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  • From Richard Falken@1:103/705 to August Abolins on Tue Nov 5 05:58:49 2019
    Re: Terminator movies
    By: August Abolins to Richard Falken on Sun Nov 03 2019 07:47 pm

    Having never seen any of the films past T2 (Judgment Day), I just caught
    up with T3 (Rise of the Machines). I thought it was a good progression
    from T2. The special effects improved. The female villan 'bot was fun to
    watch.

    I think the problem with T3 was that it felt not necessary, and that it muddled the rounded end T2 had provided. It was not horrid in itself but somehow I felt it didn't belong to the franchise.
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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Richard Falken on Tue Nov 5 20:49:00 2019
    Hello Richard!

    ** 05.11.19 - 05:58, Richard Falken wrote to August Abolins:

    I think the problem with T3 was that it felt not necessary, and that
    it muddled the rounded end T2 had provided. It was not horrid in
    itself but somehow I felt it didn't belong to the franchise.

    Yes.. some films and their endings should just be left alone. But the
    female terminator in T3 was a very nice imagining. The brief homage to the dial up modem days at the beginning of the film was pretty funny.

    Sometimes specific movie projects are picked just to exploit new SFX right out of the lab. In the case of T3, they improved upon the morphing-bending characteristics of the newer terminator models. Great CGI magic.

    But the simple ease of time travel in general bothers me. The Terminators
    are tasked to kill specific people, but the consequences of their killing *additional* people that get in their way doesn't seem to affect the
    future?

    Anyway.. there's plenty of Dark Fate discussion out on the 'net talking
    about the weaknesses of the film w.r.t the time travel issues.

    The latest discussion contributions dated November 2019 at..

    https://www.themoviedb.org/

    ..are articulated very well by fans of the franchise and deal with the problems of the previous time-lines now introduced by the new film.

    Look for,

    Discuss Terminator: Dark Fate
    Discuss Movies Terminator: Dark Fate General

    Maybe it's time to move this topic to a more suitable echo? (FILM, COFFEE_KLATSCH, CHAT) ?



    ../|ug

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  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to August Abolins on Tue Nov 5 21:28:54 2019
    Hi August,

    Look for,

    Discuss Terminator: Dark Fate
    Discuss Movies Terminator: Dark Fate General

    Maybe it's time to move this topic to a more suitable echo? (FILM, COFFEE_KLATSCH, CHAT) ?

    No problems with posts here, August. Pretty much anything is on topic in the fidogazette echo <grin>

    You may get attract more specific-to-film comments in a FILM echo, but right now I don't think we have one?

    Take care,
    Janis

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Janis Kracht on Wed Nov 6 20:41:25 2019
    On 05/11/2019 9:28 p.m., Janis Kracht : August Abolins wrote:


    Maybe it's time to move this topic to a more suitable echo?
    (FILM, COFFEE_KLATSCH, CHAT)?

    No problems with posts here, August. Pretty much anything is on
    topic in the fidogazette echo <grin>

    Very good.

    You may get attract more
    specific-to-film comments in a FILM echo, but right now I don't
    think we have one?

    I see MOVIES (that place could work) in the NA echolist and in your very fine echomail stats table. I see FILM and MOVIES represented via my euro-nntp feed. Both echos have reasonable activity.

    It can seem that one has to be a fido sleuthhound to find an echo that is available *and* active.

    This hobby could use an activity+status database of echos carried via the echo movers for the benefit of a fidonet/bbs user.

    ...AA

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Sean Dennis on Thu Nov 7 21:23:00 2019
    Hello Sean!

    ** 07.11.19 - 00:48, Sean Dennis wrote to August Abolins:

    Janis publishes stats about active echoes based on traffic through her
    system in every issue of the FG. Also, you can take a look at the
    STATS echo for other reportd from other systems in Fidonet.

    Yep.. Janis's report is great! I've extolled its virtues in the past.

    Decker's HPT Daily Report in the STATS echo is pretty good too, actually.
    I assume the list ignores the echos with zero traffic to show only active echos for the day. That keeps the clutter down very nicely.

    However, my whole concern is how is a user or non-sysop supposed to know
    what echos are worth participating in.

    "Hello User! Now that you have accessed the Fidonet echos, watch
    FIDOGAZETTE and STATS echos for clues to which echos are available. We
    leave it up to you to figure out which ones have merely robotic content
    and which ones strike up conversations with actual people".

    :(

    This is why I thought the 5-step method with the "FIDONET ECHO ACTIVITY
    TOOL" I put together at:

    http://kolico.ca/fidonet/echos/future4fido/

    ...could help, better. The user can narrow down an echo of recent
    activity by noting the last post date, and take a sneak peak at the
    content.

    It's too bad those Sychronet sites don't display the short/official echo names. Without it, there is another layer of obfuscation for the user to decode.

    As an example, instead of just this:

    The Cats_Meow Sanity Check Echo | 134 | Oct-26-19 17:54
    Commodore Computer Conference | 426 | Oct-27-19 22:03
    Commercial for Sale Echo | 1 | Dec-09-18 23:53
    Classic Computers | 204 | Oct-30-19 10:26
    Gossip and chit-chat echo | 101 | Jul-07-19 09:17


    An extra column for the official echo name would unify the environment
    across the many other systems better:

    CATS_MEOW : The Cats_Meow Sanity Check Echo | 134 | Oct-26-19 17:54
    CBM : Commodore Computer Conference | 426 | Oct-27-19 22:03 CFORSALE : Commercial for Sale Echo | 1 | Dec-09-18 23:53 CLASSIC_COMPUTER: Classic Computers | 204 | Oct-30-19 10:26 COFFEE_KLATSCH : Gossip and chit-chat echo | 101 | Jul-07-19 09:17


    For a sysop, decoding tables and stats is a no brainer. But I am
    approaching this dilema from a first timer's exposure to retro-net <g>

    Hence my imagining a server database of sorts that identifies active echos
    on a minimum of key hub systems on one screen display.



    ../|ug

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to August Abolins on Fri Nov 8 09:09:39 2019

    An extra column for the official echo name would unify the environment across the many other systems better:

    And the max length of the official echo name can be up to how long ?

    \%/@rd

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