On 01-26-20 21:40, Vince Coen <=-
spoke to All about New elist program about t <=-
Having finished programming a new version of elist I am about to start functional testing (and after system) and to this end require 'imput' :)
On 01-26-20 21:40, Vince Coen <=-
spoke to All about New elist program about t <=-
Do you have the passwords that were used by the previous echolist
keeper?
Any thought on how long it will take for email submissions?
Vince,
Having finished programming a new version of elist I am about to
start functional testing (and after system) and to this end
require 'imput' :)
Input?
It has been my understanding Dale Barnes was going to deal with the
ELIST when Ben Ritchey departed us.
The ECHOLIST-echo paints a totally different picture, as does my
regular email "in" box.
I require clarification of who does what sanctioned by whom.
On 01-27-20 17:08, Vince Coen <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about New elist program ab <=-
Do you have the passwords that were used by the previous echolist
keeper?
Any thought on how long it will take for email submissions?
A1. Nope all is lost so it is a total re-load.
A2. No, as of this moment I cannot find suitable tools that I can use
to : Scan incoming emails for a given address
Pass on the content text ( to a file by choice ).
Send a email using a text file as input along with a sending email
addr and
subject line.
On 01-27-20 10:09, Ward Dossche <=-
spoke to Vince Coen about Re: New elist program abo <=-
I require clarification of who does what sanctioned by whom.
The Elist is not controlled by Fidonet, but
provides a service for those who choose to use it.
Are you familar with 4NT or 4DOS? I don't know if there is a
version that works under linux.
Fidonet.The Elist is not controlled by Fidonet, but
provides a service for those who choose to use it.
To my perception the elist was used to try to control certain aspects of
Other than that, I think the whole concept has become obsolete.
On 01-27-20 17:08, Vince Coen <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about New elist program ab <=-
Do you have the passwords that were used by the previous echolist
keeper?
Any thought on how long it will take for email submissions?
A1. Nope all is lost so it is a total re-load.
How will you confirm that a submission is from the legitimate
moderator? Compare to the old list?
A2. No, as of this moment I cannot find suitable tools that I can
use to : Scan incoming emails for a given address Pass on the
content text ( to a file by choice ). Send a email using a text
file as input along with a sending email addr and subject line.
I cannot help with anything linux, but what you talk about there
sounds like what I do with my offline email reader (Eudora) and 4NT.
I have filters in Eudora that recognize a type of email with an
attachment and send that attachment off to a script using 4NT. I also
use 4NT to create and send an email to my USERS.
Are you familar with 4NT or 4DOS? I don't know if there is a version
that works under linux.
that's because you don't understand why the echolist was created in the first place and why the backbone distribution systems chose to use it...
the concept of providing a central list of echos with relevent data about them is still desired in today's fidonet technology networks...
it is just a tool for use by moderators, distribution systems that
choose to use it, and operators looking for a nice central list of available echomail areas so they don't have to ask all around if certain echo topics are available from anywhere... it is just a tool...
On 01-28-20 11:15, Ward Dossche <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: New elist program ab <=-
The Elist is not controlled by Fidonet, but
provides a service for those who choose to use it.
To my perception the elist was used to try to control
certain aspects of Fidonet.
Other than that, I think the whole concept has become obsolete.
On 01-28-20 16:19, Vince Coen <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about New elist program ab <=-
How will you confirm that a submission is from the legitimate
moderator? Compare to the old list?
I have also coded up a security group and one thing is that
all received files
are checked against
the mailers log file content checking that :
Sysop name is correct
Node address is correct
Are you familar with 4NT or 4DOS? I don't know if there is a version
that works under linux.
Both of these if memory serves are super versions of the command processors for NT, OS/2 and Dos
If it were as you describe it, then it also is the negative-list of
what isn't there. This negative-list has never stopped distribution systems from carrying 100-proof crap and listing at least 80% of dead echoes, or echoes kept alive by tag-collectors such as Sean Denis.
I have also coded up a security group and one thing is that
all received files
are checked against
the mailers log file content checking that :
Sysop name is correct
Node address is correct
What if the moderator of record is not a sysop?
I have used Bash in a previous incarnation, but have lost all
familiarity with it as the decades have passed me by. BUT, if my 4NT command files would help to give you a template, I would be willing to
share them with you privately. They may well not be relevant since
a. You probably do not use the same email processor I use (Eudora) and
b. They are designed to operate my BBS and not an Elist.
Let me know one way or the other.
On 01-29-20 20:48, Vince Coen <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about New elist program ab <=-
Sysop name is correct
Node address is correct
What if the moderator of record is not a sysop?
That will be a problem.
Is any moderator not a sysop ?
If so I am going to have to link the name/address to a system.
Starts to get a bit some what difficult to security check :)
That will be a problem.
Is any moderator not a sysop ?
Re: New elist program ab
By: Vince Coen to Dale Shipp on Wed Jan 29 2020 20:48:15
That will be a problem.
Is any moderator not a sysop ?
yes, the MEMORIES echo is moderated by a non-sysop... there never has
been a requirement for moderators to be sysops... only that they have
access to netmail...
then also remember that some of us provide an update service for
moderators wherein we send their updates from our systems with our
bots... there never was a requirement that the updates or even
registrations came from the moderator or a comoderator...
I do wish to maintain a high level of system security and windoz ain'tit..
A1. Nope all is lost so it is a total re-load.
A2. No, as of this moment I cannot find suitable tools that
I can use to :
Scan incoming emails for a given address
Pass on the content text ( to a file by choice ).
Send a email using a text file as input along with a
sending email addr
and
subject line.
It has been my understanding Dale Barnes was going to deal
with the ELIST when Ben Ritchey departed us.
The ECHOLIST-echo paints a totally different picture, as
does my regular email "in" box.
I require clarification of who does what sanctioned by
whom.
Re: New elist program ab
By: Vince Coen to Dale Shipp on Wed Jan 29 2020 20:48:15
That will be a problem.
Is any moderator not a sysop ?
yes, the MEMORIES echo is moderated by a non-sysop... there never has
been a requirement for moderators to be sysops... only that they have
access to netmail...
then also remember that some of us provide an update service for
moderators wherein we send their updates from our systems with our
bots... there never was a requirement that the updates or even
registrations came from the moderator or a comoderator...
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Users: | 412 |
Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
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