• Round Tuits

    From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Apr 23 07:00:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I've got a lot of "round tuits" many of which may never be gotten
    around to. But I do get a sense of satisfaction when I mark one off
    the list.

    My list is probably longer than I realise but it does feel good to
    get items marked off from time to time.

    I should mention that it's a "mental" list. If I had a hard-copy list it
    might prevent getting duplicates - which I have done.

    Some people call that a bucket list.

    Either way, it's something to aim for. I told Steve earlier today that
    the quilt kit we picked up last September at the RV/radio net rally in
    TX will probably be put together next year. I'm trying to devote most

    My mental picture of that is a cloth jig-saw puzzle that's the embodiment
    of "some assembly required". Bv)=

    of this year to UFOs but not getting as many done as I hoped to--latest hold up is a fall last Friday that didn't break anything but gave me
    some deep bruises on the left side of my back.

    What is a "UFO"? I assume that UF means unfinished. But what does the
    "O" signify?

    I know about the deep bruising. I stubbed my toe coming in a door due
    to a higher than usual threshold. I had a roll of waitress bait (gold
    dollar coins) in my pocket which gave me a deep thigh bruise. Been
    walking funny the past few days.

    I was young and energetic. These days I'm north of 80 and getting
    tired.

    I'm not there yet but times I feel much older. Other times I feel
    I'm too young to be this old. (G)

    I know I have some clear memories of a couple of things from WWII - my
    more knowledgeable friends tell me that such memory is unusual since I
    was three years old when the war ended and my brain wad still forming.

    But we all know someone our age (or a bit younger) who is in far wprse shape than we.

    I know the words to that song. Time has been kind to my physical shell
    and many people are amazed when they learn that I'm the age I am. "You sure don't look that old." To which my standard comeback is "Try
    looking through my eyes" Bv)=

    Work/keeping you active has probably kept you going.

    If it were onl;y possible to be old without getting old. Bv)=

    Did you ever see the movie or read the book "Tuck Everlasting"? We
    caught a bit of the movie one time, basically a family discovers a fountain of youth thing (we missed how) and their relationships with
    the "outside world" over the years. Don't know how it ended up.

    Definitely not the movie. I've seen the book on offer but reading the
    jacket blurbs and the synopsis have not encouraged me to go further. I
    have read everything that Robert Heinlein (Admiral Bob) has published,
    starting with Rocket Ship Galileo when I was 8 years old. Also all I
    have come across by Lewis Lamour (westerns - many made into movies) &
    my new favourite James Lee Burke. And carry my Kindle with me every
    where I go.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Meanwhile, local strawberries are beginning to hit the market.
    Steve RH> picked some up for me at the local farmer's market so we've
    had RH> strawberry short cake and a riff on a salad we'd had last year
    in RH> Fairbanks. Salad has candied pecans, craisins, bacon bits, feta
    cheese, RH> strawberries, greens (I used fresh spinach) and a balsamic
    vinegarette RH> dressing. We'll probably enjoy it a few more times
    before the end of RH> fresh strawberry season. (G)

    We're a bit behind you. Our season is mid-May to ...... We have
    several U-Pick and/or farm stands plus the farmer's market.

    I picked some up at one of the local grocery stores this afternoon.
    More strawberry salads and maybe a strawberry pie in the near future.

    I'm beginning to see them in some of the stupormarkups at a high
    value. Suttill's Farm or Jefferies Orchard (local Farm stands) are offering onion set and seed potatoes on their signage. Apparetly
    nothing much is "in" just yet. And the current outdoors temp as I
    type this is 33oSo it will be a bit before the plants take off.

    We'll have local berries from now until late May, then the local blueberries will take over, until early August, then we'll get local peaches.

    One of Illinois' counties is known for peaches. When I see the roadside
    pick-up trucks with the "CALHOUN PEACHES" sign I will grab a bag to take
    home at least once. Soe things need fresh peaches. Others work better with canned peaches. Bv)=

    I've had something very much like this in the past. It wold be very
    easy to make with a pre-made graham cracher or chocolate cookie
    crust.

    Title: Big Guy Strawberry Pie
    Categories: Pies, Pastry, Fruits
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Among the recipies Steve's mom gave me when we first got married was something similar to this. Not quite as involved but probably just as good; I've made it probably most every spring since we've been married. I'll do one later this week with Steve helping to do the crust, etc as
    my back isn't in shape for things like that yet.

    As I noted using a pre-made crust simplifies that recipe wonderfully. When
    your back gets better you might like this:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Peach Cobbler Dump Cake
    Categories: Cakes, Desserets, Fruits, Nuts
    Yield: 15 servings

    30 oz (2 cans) sliced peaches in
    - extra-light syrup
    2 tb Brown sugar
    1 ts Ground cinnamon
    18 oz Box yellow cake mix
    3/4 c Sliced almonds
    1/2 c Cold butter

    Set oven @ 350ºF/175ºC.

    Pour 1 can of peaches into a greased 13" X 9" baking
    dish. Drain remaining can of peaches and add to baking
    dish; sprinkle with brown sugar and cinnamon. Sprinkle
    with cake mix and almonds.

    Cut butter into very thin slices; arrange over top,
    spacing evenly. Bake until golden brown and fruit is
    bubbly, 35-40 minutes. Serve warm.

    Keri Sparks, Little Elm, Texas

    Makes 15 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Apr 23 13:00:42 2024
    Hi Dave,


    I've got a lot of "round tuits" many of which may never be gotten
    around to. But I do get a sense of satisfaction when I mark one off
    the list.

    My list is probably longer than I realise but it does feel good to
    get items marked off from time to time.

    I should mention that it's a "mental" list. If I had a hard-copy list
    it might prevent getting duplicates - which I have done.

    My list is more mental too, when I see something that I want to do, I'll
    try to make (mental) note of where it is. Then, depending on what's
    ahead of it on the list, I'll stash it where I should remember it when
    the time comes to work on it. Trying to get my sewing room more
    organised that way too.


    Some people call that a bucket list.

    Either way, it's something to aim for. I told Steve earlier today that
    the quilt kit we picked up last September at the RV/radio net rally in
    TX will probably be put together next year. I'm trying to devote most

    My mental picture of that is a cloth jig-saw puzzle that's the
    embodiment of "some assembly required". Bv)=

    We cut up perfectly good cloth only to sew it back together again. (G)


    of this year to UFOs but not getting as many done as I hoped to--latest hold up is a fall last Friday that didn't break anything but gave me
    some deep bruises on the left side of my back.

    What is a "UFO"? I assume that UF means unfinished. But what does the
    "O" signify?

    Object, UFP (project) doesn't quite have the same ring to it. (G)


    I know about the deep bruising. I stubbed my toe coming in a door due
    to a higher than usual threshold. I had a roll of waitress bait (gold dollar coins) in my pocket which gave me a deep thigh bruise. Been
    walking funny the past few days.

    I understand, I'm not walking funny but just very carefully and trying
    not to twist in the wrong direction.


    I was young and energetic. These days I'm north of 80 and getting
    tired.

    I'm not there yet but times I feel much older. Other times I feel
    I'm too young to be this old. (G)

    I know I have some clear memories of a couple of things from WWII - my more knowledgeable friends tell me that such memory is unusual since I
    was three years old when the war ended and my brain wad still forming.

    And I was born after the Korean crisis. My parents were planning to get
    married on Oct. 7, 1950. Before Dad went to NJ to be an usher at my
    mom's sister's wedding, he stopped off at the Naval recruiting office to
    pick up his reserve extention paperwork. He put it in the visor of his
    car when he parked at the airport. The day after the wedding, the news
    broke about Korea--when Dad flew back home and got to his car, the first
    thing he did was to tear up the paperwork. He and Mom got married 5
    weeks later, engraved invitations and the whole 9 yards. He got his
    discharge paperwork around Thanksgiving--about the time Mom found out
    she was expecting my older brother.

    But we all know someone our age (or a bit younger) who is in far
    wprse DD> shape than we.

    Exactly! And as long as I can, I'm going to try to keep my mind active,
    my body, as much as I can.


    I know the words to that song. Time has been kind to my physical shell
    and many people are amazed when they learn that I'm the age I am. "You sure don't look that old." To which my standard comeback is "Try
    looking through my eyes" Bv)=

    Work/keeping you active has probably kept you going.

    If it were onl;y possible to be old without getting old. Bv)=

    Did you ever see the movie or read the book "Tuck Everlasting"? We
    caught a bit of the movie one time, basically a family discovers a fountain of youth thing (we missed how) and their relationships with
    the "outside world" over the years. Don't know how it ended up.

    Definitely not the movie. I've seen the book on offer but reading the jacket blurbs and the synopsis have not encouraged me to go further. I have read everything that Robert Heinlein (Admiral Bob) has published, starting with Rocket Ship Galileo when I was 8 years old. Also all I
    have come across by Lewis Lamour (westerns - many made into movies) &
    my new favourite James Lee Burke. And carry my Kindle with me every
    where I go.

    I do a combination of real books and using my Nook, the latter being
    more useful for travel. Our Legion post just started a library--in the
    donated but we don't want so free for the taking basket, I grabbed the
    Natchez Burning trilogy by Greg Iles. It's kept me occupied while
    waiting for the back to heal enough to be more active.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    I picked some up at one of the local grocery stores this afternoon.
    More strawberry salads and maybe a strawberry pie in the near future.

    I'm beginning to see them in some of the stupormarkups at a high
    value. Suttill's Farm or Jefferies Orchard (local Farm stands) are offering onion set and seed potatoes on their signage. Apparetly
    nothing much is "in" just yet. And the current outdoors temp as I
    type this is 33oSo it will be a bit before the plants take off.

    We'll have local berries from now until late May, then the local blueberries will take over, until early August, then we'll get local peaches.

    One of Illinois' counties is known for peaches. When I see the
    roadside pick-up trucks with the "CALHOUN PEACHES" sign I will grab a
    bag to take home at least once. Soe things need fresh peaches. Others
    work better with canned peaches. Bv)=

    I probably need to make a batch of peach and a batch of blueberry jam
    this year. Probably should do peach butter too, it's actually easier
    than the jam. There's usually a vendor from SC at the farmer's market in July/August with peaches but I'll see if I can get some local ones. May
    can some as well.



    I've had something very much like this in the past. It wold be very
    easy to make with a pre-made graham cracher or chocolate cookie
    crust.

    Title: Big Guy Strawberry Pie
    Categories: Pies, Pastry, Fruits
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Among the recipies Steve's mom gave me when we first got married was something similar to this. Not quite as involved but probably just as good; I've made it probably most every spring since we've been married. I'll do one later this week with Steve helping to do the crust, etc as
    my back isn't in shape for things like that yet.

    As I noted using a pre-made crust simplifies that recipe wonderfully.
    When your back gets better you might like this:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Peach Cobbler Dump Cake
    Categories: Cakes, Desserets, Fruits, Nuts
    Yield: 15 servings

    It does look tempting. But as for the crust, we've got some lard on hand
    asking to be made into pie crusts so.............


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Apr 24 17:42:07 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    My mental picture of that is a cloth jig-saw puzzle that's the
    embodiment of "some assembly required". Bv)=

    We cut up perfectly good cloth only to sew it back together again. (G)

    of this year to UFOs but not getting as many done as I hoped to--latest hold up is a fall last Friday that didn't break anything but gave me
    some deep bruises on the left side of my back.

    What is a "UFO"? I assume that UF means unfinished. But what does the
    "O" signify?

    Object, UFP (project) doesn't quite have the same ring to it. (G)

    Hokay. That sorta makes sense.

    I know about the deep bruising. I stubbed my toe coming in a door due
    to a higher than usual threshold. I had a roll of waitress bait (gold dollar coins) in my pocket which gave me a deep thigh bruise. Been
    walking funny the past few days.

    I understand, I'm not walking funny but just very carefully and trying
    not to twist in the wrong direction.

    Had to give in and use a cane. The funny walk was causing a cramp in my
    foot. Sheesh. Fortunately I have a cane that I use mostly in the winter
    when the footing gets a little "iffy" and I need to keep my balance.

    I was young and energetic. These days I'm north of 80 and getting
    tired.

    I'm not there yet but times I feel much older. Other times I feel
    I'm too young to be this old. (G)

    I know I have some clear memories of a couple of things from WWII - my more knowledgeable friends tell me that such memory is unusual since I
    was three years old when the war ended and my brain wad still forming.

    And I was born after the Korean crisis. My parents were planning to get married on Oct. 7, 1950. Before Dad went to NJ to be an usher at my
    mom's sister's wedding, he stopped off at the Naval recruiting office
    to pick up his reserve extention paperwork. He put it in the visor of
    his car when he parked at the airport. The day after the wedding, the
    news broke about Korea--when Dad flew back home and got to his car, the first thing he did was to tear up the paperwork. He and Mom got married
    5 weeks later, engraved invitations and the whole 9 yards. He got his discharge paperwork around Thanksgiving--about the time Mom found out
    she was expecting my older brother.

    But we all know someone our age (or a bit younger) who is in far
    wprse shape than we.

    Exactly! And as long as I can, I'm going to try to keep my mind active,
    my body, as much as I can.

    And a couple who are older that make us hope we're in that good shape when
    we get to that age. Bv)=

    I know the words to that song. Time has been kind to my physical shell
    and many people are amazed when they learn that I'm the age I am. "You sure don't look that old." To which my standard comeback is "Try
    looking through my eyes" Bv)=

    Work/keeping you active has probably kept you going.

    If it were only possible to be old without getting old. Bv)=

    Did you ever see the movie or read the book "Tuck Everlasting"? We
    caught a bit of the movie one time, basically a family discovers a fountain of youth thing (we missed how) and their relationships with
    the "outside world" over the years. Don't know how it ended up.

    Definitely not the movie. I've seen the book on offer but reading the jacket blurbs and the synopsis have not encouraged me to go further. I have read everything that Robert Heinlein (Admiral Bob) has published, starting with Rocket Ship Galileo when I was 8 years old. Also all I
    have come across by Lewis Lamour (westerns - many made into movies) &
    my new favourite James Lee Burke. And carry my Kindle with me every
    where I go.

    I do a combination of real books and using my Nook, the latter being
    more useful for travel. Our Legion post just started a library--in the donated but we don't want so free for the taking basket, I grabbed the Natchez Burning trilogy by Greg Iles. It's kept me occupied while
    waiting for the back to heal enough to be more active.

    I like the Kindle because I can change the type size to something with
    which I am comfortable. And most of my newspapers and magazines are on-
    line editions -- for the same reason(s). Plus on-line doesn't use up trees
    or clog landfills.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    I picked some up at one of the local grocery stores this afternoon.
    More strawberry salads and maybe a strawberry pie in the near future.

    I'm beginning to see them in some of the stupormarkups at a high
    value. Suttill's Farm or Jefferies Orchard (local Farm stands) are offering onion set and seed potatoes on their signage. Apparently
    nothing much is "in" just yet. And the current outdoors temp as I
    type this is 33oSo it will be a bit before the plants take off.

    We'll have local berries from now until late May, then the local blueberries will take over, until early August, then we'll get local peaches.

    One of Illinois' counties is known for peaches. When I see the
    roadside pick-up trucks with the "CALHOUN PEACHES" sign I will grab a
    bag to take home at least once. Soe things need fresh peaches. OthersMMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Old Fashioned Gooseberry Pie
    Categories: Pastry, Fruits, Pies, Citrus
    Yield: 6 Servings

    MMMMM---------------------------CRUST--------------------------------
    2 1/2 c Flour
    1/4 c Sugar
    16 tb (1/2 lb) very cold butter;
    - in small cubes
    4 tb Ice cold milk; more, if
    - needed
    1/2 ts Salt
    1 lg Egg; beaten together
    +=WITH=+
    1 tb Milk; for glazing top crust

    MMMMM--------------------------FILLING-------------------------------
    5 c Whole wild gooseberries;
    - stemmed, washed
    1 1/2 c Sugar; or less
    2 tb Grated fresh ginger
    Juice and zest of one orange
    1/3 c Instant tapioca
    4 tb Butter

    Set oven @ 375ºF/190ºC.

    To make the crust, use stand mixer with paddle beater.
    Beat together butter, flour, sugar and salt until butter
    is in flakes, coated with flour. Do not over mix. Slowly
    add very cold milk, one or two tablespoons at a time.
    When dough first begins to form ball, stop beating. Do
    not add too much liquid. Dough should barely hold
    together. Divide dough into two balls, press into a
    thick disk with hands, wrap in plastic wrap, and
    refrigerator for 30 minutes or longer.

    While dough is chilling, begin preparing the filling.
    Combine all ingredients except butter in a large sauce
    pan, and place over medium heat. Cover until
    gooseberries begin to soften and burst (about 5
    minutes.) Then uncover, and keep barely simmering on
    medium-low heat for an additional 10 minutes. Remove
    from heat and allow to cool while rolling out pastry.

    Once dough has chilled, remove from refrigerator and
    roll out one disk on a lightly floured surface until
    large enough to cover bottom and sides of pie dish, with
    3/4 inch overhang. Crimp edges decoratively, and set pie
    weights on top of bottom crust. Bake for 10 minutes or
    until golden. Do not let edges of crust burn. Cover with
    aluminum foil or pie guard if necessary.

    While bottom crust is baking, roll out second pastry
    disk. Using small biscuit cutter or rim of small juice
    glass, cut out circles from rolled dough. Place circles
    on baking tray and return immediately to refrigerator or
    freezer to keep chilled. (Do not re-roll scraps of extra
    pastry dough, they will become tough. Bake on separate
    baking sheet to snack on with ice cream.)

    Once bottom crust has baked, and filling has cooled,
    pour gooseberry filling into bottom crust. Slice 4
    tablespoons of butter on top of filling, then decorative
    layer of pastry circles in concentric pattern, leaving a
    hole in the middle and around the outer edge. Brush top
    disks with beaten egg/milk mixture. Use aluminum foil
    strips, or pie guard over crust. Return to oven and bake
    for 35 to 50 minutes, or until juices are vigorously
    bubbling. (Be sure to place a baking sheet on rack below
    pie to catch any spilling juices. There will be some.)

    Allow pie to cool completely before serving.

    Serves 8. (according to whom? UDD)

    From: http://beekman1802.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

    work better with canned peaches. Bv)=

    I probably need to make a batch of peach and a batch of blueberry jam
    this year. Probably should do peach butter too, it's actually easier
    than the jam. There's usually a vendor from SC at the farmer's market
    in July/August with peaches but I'll see if I can get some local ones.
    May can some as well.

    I'm loking for a friendly farmer with a wood lot where I can pick wild gooseberries and who won't fill my hindquarters with rock salt or bird
    shot for berrying in his ditches and hedgerows. The problem is that so
    many farms are so heavily indebted that they have to raise cash grain
    crops on every imaginablke square foot of their holdings.

    I've had something very much like this in the past. It wold be very
    easy to make with a pre-made graham cracher or chocolate cookie
    crust.

    Title: Big Guy Strawberry Pie
    Categories: Pies, Pastry, Fruits
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Among the recipies Steve's mom gave me when we first got married was something similar to this. Not quite as involved but probably just as good; I've made it probably most every spring since we've been married. I'll do one later this week with Steve helping to do the crust, etc as
    my back isn't in shape for things like that yet.

    As I noted using a pre-made crust simplifies that recipe wonderfully.
    When your back gets better you might like this:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Peach Cobbler Dump Cake
    Categories: Cakes, Desserets, Fruits, Nuts
    Yield: 15 servings

    It does look tempting. But as for the crust, we've got some lard on
    hand asking to be made into pie crusts so.............

    I am forever amazed at the number of young folks who have no idea about
    using lard in stad of Crisco or Mrs. Tucker's. Bv(=


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Apr 25 12:39:03 2024
    Hi Dave,


    What is a "UFO"? I assume that UF means unfinished. But what does the
    "O" signify?

    Object, UFP (project) doesn't quite have the same ring to it. (G)

    Hokay. That sorta makes sense.

    Just think about it for a moment and it should come to you. I don't
    remember where I heard that term for the first time but it does fit most
    of us.


    I know about the deep bruising. I stubbed my toe coming in a door due
    to a higher than usual threshold. I had a roll of waitress bait (gold dollar coins) in my pocket which gave me a deep thigh bruise. Been
    walking funny the past few days.

    I understand, I'm not walking funny but just very carefully and trying
    not to twist in the wrong direction.

    Had to give in and use a cane. The funny walk was causing a cramp in
    my foot. Sheesh. Fortunately I have a cane that I use mostly in the
    winter when the footing gets a little "iffy" and I need to keep my balance.

    I've got a cane that we picked up in HI when my left leg was in/out of a
    cast or walking boot for the better part of a year. We keep a folding
    one in the truck also, for just in case.

    I'm not there yet but times I feel much older. Other times I feel
    I'm too young to be this old. (G)

    I know I have some clear memories of a couple of things from WWII - my more knowledgeable friends tell me that such memory is unusual since I
    was three years old when the war ended and my brain wad still forming.

    And I was born after the Korean crisis. My parents were planning to get married on Oct. 7, 1950. Before Dad went to NJ to be an usher at my

    But we all know someone our age (or a bit younger) who is in far
    wprse shape than we.

    Exactly! And as long as I can, I'm going to try to keep my mind active,
    my body, as much as I can.

    And a couple who are older that make us hope we're in that good shape
    when we get to that age. Bv)=

    Yes, those that do something to keep their mind sharp. Other than doing
    the daily NY Times crossword puzzle and watching Jeopardy, my mom didn't
    really do anything to challenge her mind when she retired. Don't know
    if it was the dememtia starting to kick in, the out of control
    diabeties, the rheumitiod and osteoarthritis or a combination of things
    but she just vegitated. I'm trying to avoid that for me.

    have read everything that Robert Heinlein (Admiral Bob) has published, starting with Rocket Ship Galileo when I was 8 years old. Also all I
    have come across by Lewis Lamour (westerns - many made into movies) &
    my new favourite James Lee Burke. And carry my Kindle with me every
    where I go.

    I do a combination of real books and using my Nook, the latter being
    more useful for travel. Our Legion post just started a library--in the donated but we don't want so free for the taking basket, I grabbed the Natchez Burning trilogy by Greg Iles. It's kept me occupied while
    waiting for the back to heal enough to be more active.

    I like the Kindle because I can change the type size to something with which I am comfortable. And most of my newspapers and magazines are
    on- line editions -- for the same reason(s). Plus on-line doesn't use
    up trees or clog landfills.

    I can change the type on my Nook but the only regular reading on line
    (other than books) is the Raleigh newspaper. I get my magazines in hard
    copy, also read books in hard copy. The Nook has a good number of books
    but I prefer to use it mostly when traveling. I've also got a good cook
    book collection that I peruse for ideas regularly.


    We'll have local berries from now until late May, then the local blueberries will take over, until early August, then we'll get local peaches.

    One of Illinois' counties is known for peaches. When I see the
    roadside pick-up trucks with the "CALHOUN PEACHES" sign I will grab a
    bag to take home at least once. Soe things need fresh peaches. OthersMMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Old Fashioned Gooseberry Pie
    Categories: Pastry, Fruits, Pies, Citrus
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I don't know if I've ever had a gooseberry, tho have seen many
    references to them. Are they more like a berry or a grape in taste,
    appearance, etc?

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... 90% of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Apr 25 12:56:36 2024
    Hi Dave,

    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<


    I'm loking for a friendly farmer with a wood lot where I can pick wild gooseberries and who won't fill my hindquarters with rock salt or bird shot for berrying in his ditches and hedgerows. The problem is that so many farms are so heavily indebted that they have to raise cash grain crops on every imaginablke square foot of their holdings.


    Yes, small crop farmers are few and far between now. You might want to
    check the state's department of agriculture to see if they keep a
    listing and go from there.


    As I noted using a pre-made crust simplifies that recipe wonderfully.
    When your back gets better you might like this:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Peach Cobbler Dump Cake
    Categories: Cakes, Desserets, Fruits, Nuts
    Yield: 15 servings

    It does look tempting. But as for the crust, we've got some lard on
    hand asking to be made into pie crusts so.............

    I am forever amazed at the number of young folks who have no idea
    about using lard in stad of Crisco or Mrs. Tucker's. Bv(=

    My mom always used lard for her pie crusts. It was always the pre
    packaged, snow white stuff but it was lard. The few times she didn't
    have it and used crisco, the crusts were like cardboard. OTOH, I'll use
    either lard if I have it, or a non hydrogenated shortening (Spectrum).
    Lard makes the tastier, flakier crust but the Spectrum is a decent back
    up.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Apr 27 06:59:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I'm loking for a friendly farmer with a wood lot where I can pick wild gooseberries and who won't fill my hindquarters with rock salt or bird shot for berrying in his ditches and hedgerows. The problem is that so many farms are so heavily indebted that they have to raise cash grain crops on every imaginablke square foot of their holdings.

    Yes, small crop farmers are few and far between now. You might want to check the state's department of agriculture to see if they keep a
    listing and go from there.

    Better to ask around at the Farm & Home or implement dealer. Some years
    ago I helped a friend's father set up a small operation after he retired
    from his 9 to 5 at a local facroey. There was a 120 acre piece of ground
    up for lease on shares - the landlord getting 25% of the revenue from the crops. We went to several "closing-ot" and/or estate auctions and picked
    up the equipment needed for a song. Everyone wanted the lastest, greatest
    and largest for their mega-farms. He bought all the tractors, combines,
    plows, etc. to run his farm for <$3000. Using old-time methods - that he
    grew up with (as did I) he cleared over $35K the first year. And, as he remarked "It keeps me out of my wife's hair and out of the saloons."

    As I noted using a pre-made crust simplifies that recipe wonderfully.
    When your back gets better you might like this:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Peach Cobbler Dump Cake
    Categories: Cakes, Desserets, Fruits, Nuts
    Yield: 15 servings

    It does look tempting. But as for the crust, we've got some lard on
    hand asking to be made into pie crusts so.............

    I am forever amazed at the number of young folks who have no idea
    about using lard in stad of Crisco or Mrs. Tucker's. Bv(=

    My mom always used lard for her pie crusts. It was always the pre packaged, snow white stuff but it was lard. The few times she didn't
    have it and used crisco, the crusts were like cardboard. OTOH, I'll use either lard if I have it, or a non hydrogenated shortening (Spectrum). Lard makes the tastier, flakier crust but the Spectrum is a decent back up.

    If I don't have lard I tend to use butter. Or schmaltz if I have some on
    hand. I can do a good "short" crust with Crisco or Mrs. Tucker's but it
    just isn't the same.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: All Butter Pie Crust
    Categories: Five, Pastry
    Yield: 1 pie

    MMMMM----------------------SINGLE-CRUST PIE--------------------------
    1 1/4 c A-P flour
    1/4 ts Salt
    1/2 c Cold butter; diced
    3 tt (to 4 tb) ice water

    MMMMM----------------------DOUBLE-CRUST PIE--------------------------
    2 1/2 c A-P flour
    1/2 ts Salt
    1 c Cold butter; diced
    1/3 c (to 2/3 c) ice water

    Combine flour and salt; cut in butter until crumbly.
    Gradually add ice water, tossing with a fork until dough
    holds together when pressed.

    Shape dough into a disk for a single-crust pie. For a
    double-crust pie, divide dough in half, with 1 piece
    slightly larger than the other; shape into 2 disks. Wrap
    and refrigerate 1 hour or overnight.

    On a lightly floured surface, roll 1 disk of dough to a
    1/8" thick circle; transfer to a 9" pie plate.

    FOR A SINGLE-CRUST PIE: Trim crust to 1/2" beyond rim of
    plate; flute edge. Fill or bake according to recipe
    directions.

    FOR A DOUBLE-CRUST PIE: Add filling to crust. Roll
    remaining dough to a 1/8-in.-thick circle. Place over
    filling. Trim, seal and flute edge. Cut slits in top.
    Bake according to recipe directions.

    UDD NOTE: Do not be afraid to use more water if you
    think it necessary. The numbers given are lowest
    limit. I've used as much as 6 TB on a single crust.

    Taste of Home Test Kitchen

    Makes: dough for one 9" pie

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Apr 27 07:32:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    And a couple who are older that make us hope we're in that good shape
    when we get to that age. Bv)=

    Yes, those that do something to keep their mind sharp. Other than doing the daily NY Times crossword puzzle and watching Jeopardy, my mom
    didn't really do anything to challenge her mind when she retired. Don't know if it was the dememtia starting to kick in, the out of control diabeties, the rheumitiod and osteoarthritis or a combination of things but she just vegitated. I'm trying to avoid that for me.

    Gotta keep active. I've seen too many people I know who retired and sat
    in front of the boob tube with a soda and bag of chips until they were
    put in a box and then the box into the ground. I don't do the Sunday Times crossword very often. But I do the daily almost daily. Somedays I'm on
    the same wavelength as the puzzle writer and fill the boxes as soon as I
    read the clue. Other days I have to stretch - sometimes a lot. Bv)=

    Osteoarthritis comes with age as the cushioning gristle i our joints
    wears out. No evidence of rheumatoid .... yet. And my diabetes is "well controlled" according to my croakers.

    have read everything that Robert Heinlein (Admiral Bob) has published, starting with Rocket Ship Galileo when I was 8 years old. Also all I
    have come across by Lewis Lamour (westerns - many made into movies) &
    my new favourite James Lee Burke. And carry my Kindle with me every
    where I go.

    I do a combination of real books and using my Nook, the latter being
    more useful for travel. Our Legion post just started a library--in the donated but we don't want so free for the taking basket, I grabbed the Natchez Burning trilogy by Greg Iles. It's kept me occupied while
    waiting for the back to heal enough to be more active.

    We have a number of "Little Free Library" locations around town. Any book
    I find in the house that I haven't opened for five or more years goes to
    on of them. I had a location at my house but the city (and state) made me remove it since I live on a busy thoroughfare w/no parking lane. They cited
    the danger factor. https://littlefreelibrary.org

    So, I took the whole megilla to my local Habitat for Humanity Re-Store
    and it was taken off my hands at their intake dock by another person
    with furniture to donate. Bv)=

    I like the Kindle because I can change the type size to something with which I am comfortable. And most of my newspapers and magazines are
    on- line editions -- for the same reason(s). Plus on-line doesn't use
    up trees or clog landfills.

    I can change the type on my Nook but the only regular reading on line (other than books) is the Raleigh newspaper. I get my magazines in hard copy, also read books in hard copy. The Nook has a good number of books but I prefer to use it mostly when traveling. I've also got a good cook book collection that I peruse for ideas regularly.

    I carry the Kindle where ever I go and if I get stuck somewhere for more than
    a cople minutes (waiting on line @ Popeyes drive thru - f'rinstance) out it comes and I'm entertained and/or educated. The only magazines I get in hard copy are those I get as a gift subscription - Taste of Home, Consumer Reports, and Cooks Illustrated. Oh, and all the AARP glurge. But that will fall away as I am not renewing my membership when it comes due.

    The only hard copy book I have that is in active use is Holy Blood Holy
    Grail (a thought provoking documentary) from which I have learned a lot.

    We'll have local berries from now until late May, then the local blueberries will take over, until early August, then we'll get local peaches.

    One of Illinois' counties is known for peaches. When I see the
    roadside pick-up trucks with the "CALHOUN PEACHES" sign I will grab a
    bag to take home at least once. Soe things need fresh peaches.
    Others

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Old Fashioned Gooseberry Pie
    Categories: Pastry, Fruits, Pies, Citrus
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I don't know if I've ever had a gooseberry, tho have seen many
    references to them. Are they more like a berry or a grape in taste, appearance, etc?

    Ask around at your farmer's market. Gooseberries are nutritious, low-
    calorie fruits that are rich in vitamins, minerals, and antioxidants.
    These berries may have health benefits that include lower blood sugar, cholesterol and blood pressure.

    https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/gooseberries

    They vary in colour and can be green, yellow-white, pink, red, or dark
    purple. The ones I've seen are the green. The wild berries are small,
    tart (like rhubarb). Gooseberries found in stupormarkups are from the "developed for commercial use" plants. There are bigger, softer and
    *much* less flavourful.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Spiced Gooseberries (old)
    Categories: Five, Desserts, Fruits, Condiments
    Yield: 6 Pints

    5 lb Gooseberries
    3 lb Brown sugar
    1 pt Vinegar
    2 tb Cinnamon
    1 tb Ground cloves

    Wash gooseberries and remove stems. Combine sugar and
    vinegar. Tie spices in a bag and add to syrup. Bring liquid
    to a boil and add berries. Cook for 20-30 minutes.

    Pack into hot jars and seal.

    Luella Mosheir, Lowville, N.Y.

    Source: Mennonite Community Cookbook, by Mary Emma
    Showalter, 1957. Recipes from old Mennonite cookbooks,
    brought up to date with standard measures and directions.

    From: Sallie Austin

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Apr 29 13:45:04 2024
    Hi Dave,


    I'm loking for a friendly farmer with a wood lot where I can pick wild gooseberries and who won't fill my hindquarters with rock salt or bird

    Yes, small crop farmers are few and far between now. You might want to check the state's department of agriculture to see if they keep a
    listing and go from there.

    Better to ask around at the Farm & Home or implement dealer. Some

    Another good source of infomation, probably better than the state dept.
    of ag, actually.


    years ago I helped a friend's father set up a small operation after he retired from his 9 to 5 at a local facroey. There was a 120 acre piece
    of ground up for lease on shares - the landlord getting 25% of the
    revenue from the crops. We went to several "closing-ot" and/or estate auctions and picked up the equipment needed for a song. Everyone
    wanted the lastest, greatest and largest for their mega-farms. He
    bought all the tractors, combines, plows, etc. to run his farm for
    <$3000. Using old-time methods - that he grew up with (as did I) he cleared over $35K the first year. And, as he remarked "It keeps me out
    of my wife's hair and out of the saloons."

    You can get some pretty good deals at auctions, close out, estate or
    yard sales. The other day we stopped at a yard sale as they were closing
    down; they had a coouple of long tables of free stuff, more on the
    ground underneath. If I'd not given up cake decorating, I could have
    gotten a good supply of pans, tips, etc but my wrists can't take it any
    more. Steve walked away with a small hand truck that has triple wheels
    for going up/down stairs easily. Not for large, heavy loads but it'll be
    good for boxes of radio stuff. Best price possible, too. (G)


    I am forever amazed at the number of young folks who have no idea
    about using lard in stad of Crisco or Mrs. Tucker's. Bv(=

    My mom always used lard for her pie crusts. It was always the pre packaged, snow white stuff but it was lard. The few times she didn't
    have it and used crisco, the crusts were like cardboard. OTOH, I'll use either lard if I have it, or a non hydrogenated shortening (Spectrum). Lard makes the tastier, flakier crust but the Spectrum is a decent back up.

    If I don't have lard I tend to use butter. Or schmaltz if I have some
    on hand. I can do a good "short" crust with Crisco or Mrs. Tucker's
    but it just isn't the same.

    I've used butter before when I've not had anything else. It works ok
    but I'll go with the Spectrum or lard as first choices. My MIL gave me a
    pie crust recipe that uses sour (vinegar) milk and Crisco--comes out
    pretty good but I try to avoid the Crisco. It would probably make a
    really flaky crust if I used the sour milk and lard. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Apr 29 13:57:21 2024
    Hi Dave,


    And a couple who are older that make us hope we're in that good shape
    when we get to that age. Bv)=

    Yes, those that do something to keep their mind sharp. Other than doing but she just vegitated. I'm trying to avoid that for me.

    Gotta keep active. I've seen too many people I know who retired and
    sat in front of the boob tube with a soda and bag of chips until they

    My mom didn't do the snacks but didn't do enough of anything to keep
    herself active one way or another. A hired housekeeper took care of most
    of the heavy work, dad did some also so she didn't get the physical
    exercise she needed either.


    were
    put in a box and then the box into the ground. I don't do the Sunday
    Times crossword very often. But I do the daily almost daily. Somedays
    I'm on
    the same wavelength as the puzzle writer and fill the boxes as soon as
    I read the clue. Other days I have to stretch - sometimes a lot. Bv)=

    I'll do puzzles from time to time but have other ways to keep the mind
    sharp. Jeopardy isn't the same without Alex Trebek but I still watch it,
    read, sew, spend time on the computer, etc.


    Osteoarthritis comes with age as the cushioning gristle i our joints
    wears out. No evidence of rheumatoid .... yet. And my diabetes is
    "well controlled" according to my croakers.

    So is mine, last A1C was 6.3, trying to get it down a bit lower but
    doctor is happy with that.


    We have a number of "Little Free Library" locations around town. Any


    I've seen a few but not checked them out. Last book haul was from the
    Legion post but I'll probably donate some to ReStore. They'll take a
    variety of reading stuff so I might sort thru my cook books too.

    I can change the type on my Nook but the only regular reading on line (other than books) is the Raleigh newspaper. I get my magazines in hard copy, also read books in hard copy. The Nook has a good number of books but I prefer to use it mostly when traveling. I've also got a good cook book collection that I peruse for ideas regularly.

    I carry the Kindle where ever I go and if I get stuck somewhere for
    more than a cople minutes (waiting on line @ Popeyes drive thru - f'rinstance) out it comes and I'm entertained and/or educated. The

    I probably should, but don't carry the Nook more places. We still get
    American Legion/Auxiliary, DAV, VFW plus some radio/sewing magazines in
    hard copy--easier to refer to diagrams in some of them. (G)


    only magazines I get in hard copy are those I get as a gift
    subscription - Taste of Home, Consumer Reports, and Cooks Illustrated.
    Oh, and all the AARP glurge. But that will fall away as I am not
    renewing my membership when it comes due.

    We tried AARP back in 2008 but didn't agree with what they were pushing
    so dropped them, no tears shed.


    Title: Old Fashioned Gooseberry Pie
    Categories: Pastry, Fruits, Pies, Citrus
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I don't know if I've ever had a gooseberry, tho have seen many
    references to them. Are they more like a berry or a grape in taste, appearance, etc?

    Ask around at your farmer's market. Gooseberries are nutritious, low- calorie fruits that are rich in vitamins, minerals, and antioxidants. These berries may have health benefits that include lower blood sugar, cholesterol and blood pressure.

    OK, I'll check around. We're hitting the road soon for a couple of weeks
    so it may be put on hold for a bit. Got to start thinking about camper
    cooking, may pull some stuff from the freezer for "heat and eat" meals.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Wed May 1 05:45:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I'm loking for a friendly farmer with a wood lot where I can pick wild gooseberries and who won't fill my hindquarters with rock salt or bird

    Yes, small crop farmers are few and far between now. You might want to check the state's department of agriculture to see if they keep a
    listing and go from there.

    Better to ask around at the Farm & Home or implement dealer. Some

    Another good source of infomation, probably better than the state dept.
    of ag, actually.

    Especially localised iformation. I worked for the Illinos Department of Agriculture (ran their print shop) and they were more about the overall
    state thn local issues.

    years ago I helped a friend's father set up a small operation after he retired from his 9 to 5 at a local facroey. There was a 120 acre piece

    8<----- SHARTENED ----->8

    cleared over $35K the first year. And, as he remarked "It keeps me out
    of my wife's hair and out of the saloons."

    You can get some pretty good deals at auctions, close out, estate or
    yard sales. The other day we stopped at a yard sale as they were
    closing down; they had a coouple of long tables of free stuff, more on
    the ground underneath. If I'd not given up cake decorating, I could
    have gotten a good supply of pans, tips, etc but my wrists can't take
    it any more. Steve walked away with a small hand truck that has triple wheels for going up/down stairs easily. Not for large, heavy loads but it'll be good for boxes of radio stuff. Best price possible, too. (G)

    I bought a fold-up hand truck from Harbor Freight that will do up to (I
    think, IIRC) 200# It folds to about 30" X 36" X 4" and fits in the trunk
    of my car or behind the front seat of the Ranger (pickup) easilt. And it's handy plus easy to set up or take down. Here's a review of it (after the YouToob ads) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsv5vtiNaKI

    I am forever amazed at the number of young folks who have no idea
    about using lard in stad of Crisco or Mrs. Tucker's. Bv(=

    My mom always used lard for her pie crusts. It was always the pre packaged, snow white stuff but it was lard. The few times she didn't
    have it and used crisco, the crusts were like cardboard. OTOH, I'll use either lard if I have it, or a non hydrogenated shortening (Spectrum). Lard makes the tastier, flakier crust but the Spectrum is a decent back up.

    If I don't have lard I tend to use butter. Or schmaltz if I have some
    on hand. I can do a good "short" crust with Crisco or Mrs. Tucker's
    but it just isn't the same.

    I've used butter before when I've not had anything else. It works ok
    but I'll go with the Spectrum or lard as first choices. My MIL gave me
    a pie crust recipe that uses sour (vinegar) milk and Crisco--comes out pretty good but I try to avoid the Crisco. It would probably make a
    really flaky crust if I used the sour milk and lard. (G)

    The vinegar in milk is a well known fake-out for commercial buttermilk.
    AFAIK there is no easy work-around for *real* buttermilk (the leftovers
    from churning butter. They are very different from "cultured" buttermilk
    from down at the grocery store.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Homemade Buttermilk
    Categories: Five, Dairy
    Yield: 1 cup

    4 1/2 ts White vinegar or fresh lemon
    - juice
    1 c Milk

    Place the vinegar in a glass-measuring cup, and add
    enough milk to make 1 cup total liquid. Stir to combine
    and let stand for 10 to 15 minutes (The mixture will
    begin to curdle).

    Use as needed in a recipe, or cover and refrigerate
    until needed.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.foodnetwork.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed May 1 13:59:39 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Better to ask around at the Farm & Home or implement dealer. Some

    Another good source of infomation, probably better than the state dept.
    of ag, actually.

    Especially localised iformation. I worked for the Illinos Department
    of Agriculture (ran their print shop) and they were more about the
    overall state thn local issues.

    Guess they figured that local issues would bog them down too much.


    years ago I helped a friend's father set up a small operation after he retired from his 9 to 5 at a local facroey. There was a 120 acre piece

    8<----- SHARTENED ----->8

    cleared over $35K the first year. And, as he remarked "It keeps me out
    of my wife's hair and out of the saloons."

    You can get some pretty good deals at auctions, close out, estate or
    yard sales. The other day we stopped at a yard sale as they were
    closing down; they had a coouple of long tables of free stuff, more on
    the ground underneath. If I'd not given up cake decorating, I could
    have gotten a good supply of pans, tips, etc but my wrists can't take
    it any more. Steve walked away with a small hand truck that has triple wheels for going up/down stairs easily. Not for large, heavy loads but it'll be good for boxes of radio stuff. Best price possible, too. (G)

    I bought a fold-up hand truck from Harbor Freight that will do up to
    (I think, IIRC) 200# It folds to about 30" X 36" X 4" and fits in the trunk of my car or behind the front seat of the Ranger (pickup)
    easilt. And it's handy plus easy to set up or take down. Here's a
    review of it (after the YouToob ads) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsv5vtiNaKI

    This one folds into about 15"x15"x6" (rough guessing), not for heavy
    duty stuff but better than hand carrying. When needed, we have access to
    a neighbor's heavy duty one.

    I am forever amazed at the number of young folks who have no idea
    about using lard in stad of Crisco or Mrs. Tucker's. Bv(=

    My mom always used lard for her pie crusts. It was always the pre packaged, snow white stuff but it was lard. The few times she didn't
    have it and used crisco, the crusts were like cardboard. OTOH, I'll use either lard if I have it, or a non hydrogenated shortening (Spectrum). Lard makes the tastier, flakier crust but the Spectrum is a decent back up.

    If I don't have lard I tend to use butter. Or schmaltz if I have some
    on hand. I can do a good "short" crust with Crisco or Mrs. Tucker's
    but it just isn't the same.

    I've used butter before when I've not had anything else. It works ok
    but I'll go with the Spectrum or lard as first choices. My MIL gave me
    a pie crust recipe that uses sour (vinegar) milk and Crisco--comes out pretty good but I try to avoid the Crisco. It would probably make a
    really flaky crust if I used the sour milk and lard. (G)

    The vinegar in milk is a well known fake-out for commercial
    buttermilk. AFAIK there is no easy work-around for *real* buttermilk
    (the leftovers from churning butter. They are very different from "cultured" buttermilk from down at the grocery store.

    Yes, before Steve went into the Army, we'd get our (raw) milk from a
    local farmer, gallon glass jars. I'd let it sit a day or so in the
    fridge, then skim the cream and use it for making butter, ice cream,
    etc. The buttermilk was used in baking--combination of that and lard
    (from the hog we'd bought) made the best biscuit, pie crusts, etc you
    ever tasted.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri May 3 05:42:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Better to ask around at the Farm & Home or implement dealer. Some

    Another good source of infomation, probably better than the state dept.
    of ag, actually.

    Especially localised iformation. I worked for the Illinos Department
    of Agriculture (ran their print shop) and they were more about the
    overall state thn local issues.

    Guess they figured that local issues would bog them down too much.

    Not necessdarily, just that the state Department of Agriculture is tasked
    with responsibility for the entire state all 102 counties. Too many localised tasks would bog them down and

    8<----- SHARTENED ----->8

    You can get some pretty good deals at auctions, close out, estate or
    yard sales. The other day we stopped at a yard sale as they were
    closing down; they had a coouple of long tables of free stuff, more on
    the ground underneath. If I'd not given up cake decorating, I could
    have gotten a good supply of pans, tips, etc but my wrists can't take
    it any more. Steve walked away with a small hand truck that has triple wheels for going up/down stairs easily. Not for large, heavy loads but it'll be good for boxes of radio stuff. Best price possible, too. (G)

    I bought a fold-up hand truck from Harbor Freight that will do up to
    (I think, IIRC) 200# It folds to about 30" X 36" X 4" and fits in the trunk of my car or behind the front seat of the Ranger (pickup)
    easilt. And it's handy plus easy to set up or take down. Here's a
    review of it (after the YouToob ads) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsv5vtiNaKI

    This one folds into about 15"x15"x6" (rough guessing), not for heavy
    duty stuff but better than hand carrying. When needed, we have access
    to a neighbor's heavy duty one.MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm)
    8.06

    Title: Milk Pork
    Categories: Pork, Dairy
    Yield: 6 Servings

    3 lb (1.5 kg) boned pork roast
    6 cl Garlic; peeled, in slivers
    Salt & pepper
    2 tb Butter
    1 lg Onion; halved
    1 lg Carrot; halved
    2 lg Rosemary branches
    2 Bay leaves
    4 c Whole milk
    Generous handful chopped
    - fresh chives and/or
    - parsley; for garnish

    Make small slits all over the meat with a sharp knife,
    inserting a sliver of garlic into each as you go. (If
    you can do this several hours or the night before
    cooking, all the better.) Rub the meat all over with
    salt and pepper. Heat the oven to 325ºF/160ºC.

    Melt the butter in a deep, lidded casserole (cocotte),
    and brown the meat well on all sides. Add the onion,
    carrot, and herbs to the pot. Pour over the milk, and
    bring to a simmer on the stovetop. Cover the dish and
    transfer to the oven until tender, about 2 hours,
    turning the meat at least once.

    Remove the meat from the pot and wrap in foil to keep
    warm. Remove the herbs, carrot, and onion and discard.
    The cooking juices will be curdled - ugly - but this is
    how they're meant to be. Boil them down to about a
    cup/250 ml and purée with an immersion blender. Taste
    and adjust the seasonings.

    Carve the meat and arrange in a serving dish. Pour over
    the sauce, sprinkle with the chives and/or parsley.

    Serve.

    http://www.foodtv.ca

    Yield: 6 servings

    Meal Master Format by Dave Drum - 07 June 2008

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM


    I've also got a "standard" hand truck as well as one that will (and has
    done) move a refrigerator.

    I am forever amazed at the number of young folks who have no idea
    about using lard instead of Crisco or Mrs. Tucker's. Bv(=

    My mom always used lard for her pie crusts. It was always the pre packaged, snow white stuff but it was lard. The few times she didn't
    have it and used crisco, the crusts were like cardboard. OTOH, I'll use either lard if I have it, or a non hydrogenated shortening (Spectrum). Lard makes the tastier, flakier crust but the Spectrum is a decent back up.

    If I don't have lard I tend to use butter. Or schmaltz if I have some
    on hand. I can do a good "short" crust with Crisco or Mrs. Tucker's
    but it just isn't the same.

    I've used butter before when I've not had anything else. It works ok
    but I'll go with the Spectrum or lard as first choices. My MIL gave me
    a pie crust recipe that uses sour (vinegar) milk and Crisco--comes out pretty good but I try to avoid the Crisco. It would probably make a
    really flaky crust if I used the sour milk and lard. (G)

    The vinegar in milk is a well known fake-out for commercial
    buttermilk. AFAIK there is no easy work-around for *real* buttermilk
    (the leftovers from churning butter. They are very different from "cultured" buttermilk from down at the grocery store.

    Yes, before Steve went into the Army, we'd get our (raw) milk from a
    local farmer, gallon glass jars. I'd let it sit a day or so in the
    fridge, then skim the cream and use it for making butter, ice cream,
    etc. The buttermilk was used in baking--combination of that and lard
    (from the hog we'd bought) made the best biscuit, pie crusts, etc you
    ever tasted.

    As I grew up both "in town" and "on the farm" I know the words to that
    song. I was tasked with running (hand cranking) the cream separator and,
    if I forgot to make myself scarce, churning the butter. And when there
    was a dairy operation running, trundling the galvanised 5 gallon milk containers from the brn to the road for pick up by the dairy. Then the
    reverse trip with the emptied cans to be cleaned thoroughly by guess who?


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri May 3 11:34:44 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Especially localised iformation. I worked for the Illinos Department
    of Agriculture (ran their print shop) and they were more about the
    overall state thn local issues.

    Guess they figured that local issues would bog them down too much.

    Not necessdarily, just that the state Department of Agriculture is
    tasked with responsibility for the entire state all 102 counties. Too
    many localised tasks would bog them down and

    ..........cost way too much to print.


    8<----- SHARTENED ----->8

    You can get some pretty good deals at auctions, close out, estate or
    yard sales. The other day we stopped at a yard sale as they were
    it'll be good for boxes of radio stuff. Best price possible, too. (G)

    I bought a fold-up hand truck from Harbor Freight that will do up to
    (I think, IIRC) 200# It folds to about 30" X 36" X 4" and fits in the trunk of my car or behind the front seat of the Ranger (pickup)
    easilt. And it's handy plus easy to set up or take down. Here's a
    review of it (after the YouToob ads) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsv5vtiNaKI

    This one folds into about 15"x15"x6" (rough guessing), not for heavy
    duty stuff but better than hand carrying. When needed, we have access
    to a neighbor's heavy duty one.MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm)
    8.06

    Title: Milk Pork
    Categories: Pork, Dairy
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Hmmmmmm, have to keep that in mind as we've got a pork roast in the
    freezer.

    The vinegar in milk is a well known fake-out for commercial
    buttermilk. AFAIK there is no easy work-around for *real* buttermilk
    (the leftovers from churning butter. They are very different from "cultured" buttermilk from down at the grocery store.

    Yes, before Steve went into the Army, we'd get our (raw) milk from a
    local farmer, gallon glass jars. I'd let it sit a day or so in the
    fridge, then skim the cream and use it for making butter, ice cream,
    etc. The buttermilk was used in baking--combination of that and lard
    (from the hog we'd bought) made the best biscuit, pie crusts, etc you
    ever tasted.

    As I grew up both "in town" and "on the farm" I know the words to that song. I was tasked with running (hand cranking) the cream separator
    and, if I forgot to make myself scarce, churning the butter. And when there
    was a dairy operation running, trundling the galvanised 5 gallon milk

    I never lived on a farm, visited them off and on over the years.

    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Junk: stuff we throw away. Stuff: junk we keep.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri May 3 11:37:38 2024
    Hi Dave,

    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<

    containers from the brn to the road for pick up by the dairy. Then the reverse trip with the emptied cans to be cleaned thoroughly by guess
    who?

    IOW, earning your keep. (G)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... I am NOT burned out - just singed a little!

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Sun May 5 05:31:41 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Especially localised iformation. I worked for the Illinos Department
    of Agriculture (ran their print shop) and they were more about the
    overall state thn local issues.

    Guess they figured that local issues would bog them down too much.

    Not necessdarily, just that the state Department of Agriculture is
    tasked with responsibility for the entire state all 102 counties.
    Too many localised tasks would bog them down and

    ..........cost way too much to print.

    Actually the print shop only printed two items for public consumption.
    The weekly (every Friday) Market Report which was an 8 page newsletter.
    We got the last of the information by noon, set the type, printed, bound
    and addressed 5000 copies and bundled them for the daily mail run from
    Central Management Services by 15:30. Since we skiped lunch that day we
    took our lunch break after the mail run and didn't come back until the
    next work day - which was Monday. And we also printed the Department's
    Annual Report. Other than that it was letterheads, envelopes and forms.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Farmer's Market Cobbler
    Categories: Pies, Pastry, Fruits
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1/2 c Butter
    3/4 c Flour
    1 1/2 c Sugar; divided use
    1 ts (heaping) baking powder
    1/2 ts Salt
    2/3 c Milk
    1 qt Fruit; blueberries, peaches,
    - apricots, blackberries,
    - pears or apples

    Set oven @ 400øF/205øC.

    Melt the butter in a 2 quart baking dish.

    Combine the dry ingredients, reserving 1/2 cup sugar. Stir
    into melted butter in the baking dish. Add the milk and
    stir again.

    Bring the fruit and 1/2 cup of sugar to a boil. As soon as
    it boils, remove from the heat and pour over the batter.
    Don't stir.

    Bake at 400øF/205øC for 30 minutes.

    Servings: 8 (six at UUD's house)

    Source: Fort Worth Star Telegram; July 26, 1995

    From: http://www.recipelink.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Sun May 5 05:49:13 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Hi Dave,

    containers from the brn to the road for pick up by the dairy. Then the reverse trip with the emptied cans to be cleaned thoroughly by guess
    who?

    IOW, earning your keep. (G)

    Always plenty of fun for the whole family (work) on a farm. I only
    mamaged to "Tom Sawyer" the milk duties once wit each of my siblings.
    After that they wised up util they were old enough to be assigned to
    their own chores. Georgia to kitchen stuff andf Phil to feeding cattle
    and cleaning stalls in the barn.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Bauernfruhstuck (Farmer's Breakfast)
    Categories: Pork, Eggs, Vegetables, Potatoes, Dairy
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 md Potatoes
    4 sl Bacon; diced
    3 lg Eggs
    3 tb Milk
    1/2 ts Salt
    1 c Ham; in small cubes
    2 md Tomatoes; Peeled
    1 tb Chives; Chopped

    Boil unpeeled potatoes 30 minutes. Rinse under cold
    water, peel and set aside to cool. Slice potatoes. In a
    large fry-pan cook bacon until transparent.

    Add the potato slices; cook until lightly browned. Blend
    eggs with milk and salt. Stir in the diced ham. Cut the
    tomatoes into thin wedges; add to the egg mixture. Pour
    the egg mixture over the potatoes in the fry-pan.

    Cook until the eggs are set. Sprinkle w/chopped chives
    and serve at once.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun May 5 17:37:19 2024
    Hi Dave,

    of Agriculture (ran their print shop) and they were more about the
    overall state thn local issues.

    Guess they figured that local issues would bog them down too much.

    Not necessdarily, just that the state Department of Agriculture is
    tasked with responsibility for the entire state all 102 counties.
    Too many localised tasks would bog them down and

    ..........cost way too much to print.

    Actually the print shop only printed two items for public consumption.
    The weekly (every Friday) Market Report which was an 8 page
    newsletter. We got the last of the information by noon, set the type,
    we took our lunch break after the mail run and didn't come back until
    the
    next work day - which was Monday. And we also printed the Department's Annual Report. Other than that it was letterheads, envelopes and
    forms.

    Sounds like what my dad used to call "job printing". The newspaper was
    printed weekly, plus they did other small jobs for businesses or
    individuals. They kept a couple of albums of "fancy" jobs (wedding
    invitations and other things on that line) that people could order thru
    them also.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Farmer's Market Cobbler
    Categories: Pies, Pastry, Fruits
    Yield: 6 Servings

    It's getting to be that season. Steve brought home another basket of strawberries from the local market yesterday.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Get shopping while the gettin' is good!!!

    --- PPoint 3.01
    * Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)
  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun May 5 17:42:38 2024
    Hi Dave,

    containers from the brn to the road for pick up by the dairy. Then the reverse trip with the emptied cans to be cleaned thoroughly by guess
    who?

    IOW, earning your keep. (G)

    Always plenty of fun for the whole family (work) on a farm. I only

    Very true, a farm raised kid knew how to work and just as importantly,
    do a good job of whatever the task was.


    mamaged to "Tom Sawyer" the milk duties once wit each of my siblings. After that they wised up util they were old enough to be assigned to
    their own chores. Georgia to kitchen stuff andf Phil to feeding cattle
    and cleaning stalls in the barn.

    We all had certain jobs, girls more inside, boys outside. It was always
    a treat when I got to break from the inside jobs and do something like
    burn the trash, a job usually reserved for my older brother. Summertime
    meant helping mom prep veggies for canning--tho I never went beyond that
    at home, I picked up enough of a knowledge of it that I've done well in
    my canning over the years.


    Title: Bauernfruhstuck (Farmer's Breakfast)
    Categories: Pork, Eggs, Vegetables, Potatoes, Dairy
    Yield: 4 Servings

    We've done a varient on this over the years, had the original at
    WienerWald in Germany a number of times.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... You learn something useless every day.

    --- PPoint 3.01
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Tue May 7 06:03:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Hi Dave,

    Actually the print shop only printed two items for public consumption.
    The weekly (every Friday) Market Report which was an 8 page
    newsletter. We got the last of the information by noon, set the type,
    we took our lunch break after the mail run and didn't come back until
    next work day - which was Monday. And we also printed the Department's Annual Report. Other than that it was letterheads, envelopes and
    forms.

    Sounds like what my dad used to call "job printing". The newspaper was printed weekly, plus they did other small jobs for businesses or individuals. They kept a couple of albums of "fancy" jobs (wedding invitations and other things on that line) that people could order thru them also.

    When I was doing weakly (misspelling intentional) newspapers the "job
    shop" actually made more $$$ than the newspaper(s). Even with 5 editions
    there just wasn't enough advertising or circulation revenue to provide
    a living for the staff. So, business cards, letterheads, envelopes, forms, short-run cook books, etc. kept us afloat.

    With the advent of the internet small town papers are disappearing at
    an alarming rate.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Farmer's Market Cobbler
    Categories: Pies, Pastry, Fruits
    Yield: 6 Servings

    It's getting to be that season. Steve brought home another basket of strawberries from the local market yesterday.

    This morning's e-edition of the local ird cae liner had a listing of
    near-by farmer's markets with times/dates and locations. And I noticed
    that my favourite farmstand - Suttill's - was advertising strawberries
    on their road sign w/a promise of "Asparagus next week". Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Mustard Sauced Asparagus w/Chopped Egg
    Categories: Dairy, Vegetables, Herbs
    Yield: 2 Servings

    1/2 lb Asparagus spears
    1/4 c Yogurt
    1 1/2 ts Minced fresh dillweed
    1 1/2 ts Minced fresh chives
    2 ts Dijon mustard
    1/8 ts Salt
    1/8 ts Pepper
    1 Hard cooked egg; chopped

    Snap off tough ends of asparagus; remove scales with a
    knife or vegetable peeler, if desired. Steam asparagus,
    covered, 5 minutes or until crisp tender. Rinse under
    cold water; drain and chill.

    Combine yogurt, dillweed, chives, mustard, salt and
    pepper in a bowl; stir well. Divide the asparagus
    evenly between two salad plates; top each with 2
    tablespoons dressing and 1/2 of the chopped egg.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Tue May 7 06:07:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    containers from the brn to the road for pick up by the dairy. Then the reverse trip with the emptied cans to be cleaned thoroughly by guess
    who?

    IOW, earning your keep. (G)

    Always plenty of fun for the whole family (work) on a farm. I only

    Very true, a farm raised kid knew how to work and just as importantly,
    do a good job of whatever the task was.

    mamaged to "Tom Sawyer" the milk duties once wit each of my siblings. After that they wised up util they were old enough to be assigned to
    their own chores. Georgia to kitchen stuff andf Phil to feeding cattle
    and cleaning stalls in the barn.

    We all had certain jobs, girls more inside, boys outside. It was always
    a treat when I got to break from the inside jobs and do something like burn the trash, a job usually reserved for my older brother. Summertime meant helping mom prep veggies for canning--tho I never went beyond
    that at home, I picked up enough of a knowledge of it that I've done
    well in my canning over the years.

    I amaze younger people sometimes when I show them how to do something
    that was a regular "thing" when I was growing up. Or, as I did with a
    young girl at a fats food joint who gave me an "I don't kow hoe much
    change you get. The register didn't tell me." wail ... taught her how
    to count change back/make change from scratch. She was flabbergasted. Especially when I explained that I learned that in second grade. Many
    of today's Gen Z denizens will be in serious hurt without confusers and
    cell phones.

    Title: Bauernfruhstuck (Farmer's Breakfast)
    Categories: Pork, Eggs, Vegetables, Potatoes, Dairy
    Yield: 4 Servings

    We've done a varient on this over the years, had the original at WienerWald in Germany a number of times.

    Only Wienerwald I have had is the Wienerwald chicken that Lum's used to
    have on their menu - back when there was a Lum's and we had one here.
    In the 70's a Swiss chain called Wienerwald purchased Lum's. Wienerwald, confusingly to Americans, had nothing to do with weiners. It specialized
    in chicken and schnitzel.

    And their chicken was really good - especially as a break from fried
    chicken. I liked it well enough I got a more-or-less copycat recipe and
    with minor adaptations made it my own. This works in an oven or on a
    Ferris wheel (rotissiere).

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Wienerwald Chicken (Goldbroiler Recipe)
    Categories: Poultry, Rubs, Marinades, Citrus, Fruits
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 lb Broiler chicken

    MMMMM--------------------------MARINADE-------------------------------
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/4 ts Pepper
    1 tb Ground Hungarian paprika
    3 tb Lemon juice
    1/2 c Chopped parsley
    1 md Onion; chopped
    1 tb Oil

    MMMMM---------------------------SAUCE--------------------------------
    Oil
    1 lg Onion; peeled, sliced
    1 tb Ground Hungarian paprika
    1 c Apple juice
    1 c Roasted red peppers

    MMMMM-------------------------THICKENER------------------------------
    1 tb White vinegar
    1 c Milk
    1 tb Rice flour
    1 Apple; grated

    Here is a recipe for restaurant grilled chicken or
    "Broiler". Served with a sweet sour, paprika flavored sauce,
    this grilled or fried chicken is a German oldie but goody.

    Plan for time to marinate meat (up to 24 hours) or make
    sauce separately in 25 minutes.

    Mix the marinade ingredients and brush or pat them on the
    chicken. Place the chicken in a large bowl or plastic bag,
    cover and refrigerate between 2 hours to overnight.

    Shake off excess marinade from chicken. Put chicken on a
    spit over a heat source.

    Make the basting sauce by placing oil and onion in a blender
    and whirling into a paste. Add apple juice, paprika and
    roasted peppers. Blend until smooth and free from lumps.
    You should have a thick sauce

    Baste the cooking chicken with this sauce several times as
    it cooks.

    Meanwhile, mix the milk with vinegar and let stand for 5
    minutes.

    Make a smooth paste with the flour and a little of the milk.

    Stir the flour paste into the drippings from the catch pan
    below the roaster/broiler and the leftover basting sauce.

    Mix the sour milk into the sauce, add the grated apple and
    bring to a boil.

    Serve with the chicken.

    Makes 4 servings.

    Recipe from: https://eezyrecipes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed May 8 19:19:38 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Actually the print shop only printed two items for public consumption.
    The weekly (every Friday) Market Report which was an 8 page

    Sounds like what my dad used to call "job printing". The newspaper was printed weekly, plus they did other small jobs for businesses or individuals. They kept a couple of albums of "fancy" jobs (wedding

    When I was doing weakly (misspelling intentional) newspapers the "job shop" actually made more $$$ than the newspaper(s). Even with 5
    editions there just wasn't enough advertising or circulation revenue
    to provide
    a living for the staff. So, business cards, letterheads, envelopes,
    forms, short-run cook books, etc. kept us afloat.

    Anything to keep the presses running. The CMN (Catskill Mountain News)
    had several job presses in addition to the big press for the paper.


    With the advent of the internet small town papers are disappearing at
    an alarming rate.

    I know, the CMN died last year. The owner that bought it back in the
    early 1900s hired dad in the early 50s, made him editor in the early
    60s. Dad had a disagreement with his son (who didn't know how to run a
    paper so was trying to tell dad the wrong way to do things) in the early 80s--dad said "I quit" just before the son (who, by now was boss) said
    "you're fired". Whole town backed dad but he never went back to them.


    Title: Farmer's Market Cobbler
    Categories: Pies, Pastry, Fruits
    Yield: 6 Servings

    It's getting to be that season. Steve brought home another basket of strawberries from the local market yesterday.

    This morning's e-edition of the local ird cae liner had a listing of near-by farmer's markets with times/dates and locations. And I noticed that my favourite farmstand - Suttill's - was advertising strawberries
    on their road sign w/a promise of "Asparagus next week". Bv)=

    Asparagus sounds good. Best I ever had was in Germany, white asparagus
    lightly blanched, then soaked in a light lemon vinegarette.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... ... Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans-J. Lennon

    --- PPoint 3.01
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed May 8 19:27:37 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Very true, a farm raised kid knew how to work and just as importantly,
    do a good job of whatever the task was.

    mamaged to "Tom Sawyer" the milk duties once wit each of my siblings. After that they wised up util they were old enough to be assigned to
    their own chores. Georgia to kitchen stuff andf Phil to feeding cattle
    and cleaning stalls in the barn.

    We all had certain jobs, girls more inside, boys outside. It was always
    a treat when I got to break from the inside jobs and do something like burn the trash, a job usually reserved for my older brother. Summertime meant helping mom prep veggies for canning--tho I never went beyond
    that at home, I picked up enough of a knowledge of it that I've done
    well in my canning over the years.

    I amaze younger people sometimes when I show them how to do something
    that was a regular "thing" when I was growing up. Or, as I did with a young girl at a fats food joint who gave me an "I don't kow hoe much change you get. The register didn't tell me." wail ... taught her how
    to count change back/make change from scratch. She was flabbergasted. Especially when I explained that I learned that in second grade. Many
    of today's Gen Z denizens will be in serious hurt without confusers
    and cell phones.

    We learned early on in school too. Now so many younger people don't even
    use cash (and a good number of older folks) that it's a wonder clerks
    can even run a register. They need to know how many nickels in a dime or quarter; dimes in a dollar and so on without relying on a machine to
    tell them.

    We've done a varient on this over the years, had the original at WienerWald in Germany a number of times.

    Only Wienerwald I have had is the Wienerwald chicken that Lum's used
    to have on their menu - back when there was a Lum's and we had one
    here.
    In the 70's a Swiss chain called Wienerwald purchased Lum's.
    Wienerwald, confusingly to Americans, had nothing to do with weiners.
    It specialized in chicken and schnitzel.

    Sounds like what we had in Germany, don't remember if it was Swiss owned
    at the time.

    And their chicken was really good - especially as a break from fried chicken. I liked it well enough I got a more-or-less copycat recipe
    and with minor adaptations made it my own. This works in an oven or on
    a
    Ferris wheel (rotissiere).


    Title: Wienerwald Chicken (Goldbroiler Recipe)
    Categories: Poultry, Rubs, Marinades, Citrus, Fruits
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 lb Broiler chicken

    Good thing I've already had supper, this looks good enough to try on a
    camping trip.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Get shopping while the gettin' is good!!!

    --- PPoint 3.01
    * Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)
  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri May 10 05:35:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I amaze younger people sometimes when I show them how to do something
    that was a regular "thing" when I was growing up. Or, as I did with a young girl at a fats food joint who gave me an "I don't kow hoe much change you get. The register didn't tell me." wail ... taught her how
    to count change back/make change from scratch. She was flabbergasted. Especially when I explained that I learned that in second grade. Many
    of today's Gen Z denizens will be in serious hurt without confusers
    and cell phones.

    We learned early on in school too. Now so many younger people don't
    even use cash (and a good number of older folks) that it's a wonder
    clerks can even run a register. They need to know how many nickels in a dime or quarter; dimes in a dollar and so on without relying on a
    machine to tell them.

    Confusers and cell phones are handy aids to have. But, they don't relieve
    us of the need to "use your loaf" (think).

    We've done a varient on this over the years, had the original at WienerWald in Germany a number of times.

    Only Wienerwald I have had is the Wienerwald chicken that Lum's used
    to have on their menu - back when there was a Lum's and we had one.
    In the 70's a Swiss chain called Wienerwald purchased Lum's.
    Wienerwald, confusingly to Americans, had nothing to do with weiners.
    It specialized in chicken and schnitzel.

    Sounds like what we had in Germany, don't remember if it was Swiss
    owned at the time.

    And their chicken was really good - especially as a break from fried chicken. I liked it well enough I got a more-or-less copycat recipe
    and with minor adaptations made it my own. This works in an oven or on
    a Ferris wheel (rotissiere).

    Title: Wienerwald Chicken (Goldbroiler Recipe)
    Categories: Poultry, Rubs, Marinades, Citrus, Fruits
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 lb Broiler chicken

    Good thing I've already had supper, this looks good enough to try on a camping trip.

    I prefer the rotissiere - but if you've got the stuff/room in your RV.
    go for it. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Sticky Coconut Chicken & Rice
    Categories: Poultry, Rice, Herbs, Vegetables, Nuts
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 1/2 lb Boned, skinned thighs; each
    - thigh cut in 2 equal-size
    - pieces
    1/4 c Neutral oil
    2 ts Kosher salt
    1/2 ts Black pepper
    2 tb Minced fresh ginger
    1 tb Minced garlic
    1 1/2 c Short-grain white rice;
    - rinsed until water runs
    - clear
    1 3/4 c Chicken broth
    13 1/3 oz Can full-fat coconut milk
    1 Yellow bell pepper; cored,
    - seeded, chopped in 1/2"
    - pieces
    1/2 c Roasted cashews; coarse
    - chopped
    3 Scallions; green/white parts
    - thin sliced
    2 tb Coarse chopped cilantro
    Hot sauce; to serve

    Set oven @ 375ºF/190ºC.

    Rub chicken with 1 tablespoon of oil, and season with 1
    teaspoon of salt and 1/4 teaspoon of pepper.

    In a large Dutch oven, heat 2 tablespoons of the oil
    over medium. Working in two batches, brown chicken,
    turning halfway, until no longer pink, around 5 minutes
    per batch. Transfer to a plate.

    Add the remaining 1 tablespoon oil, the ginger and the
    garlic to the empty pot, and stir until fragrant, 30
    seconds. Add rice and stir until evenly coated in the
    oil. Add broth, coconut milk, bell pepper, cashews,
    scallions and the remaining 1 teaspoon salt and 1/4
    teaspoon pepper. Stir to lift up any browned bits on the
    bottom of the pot. Arrange chicken on top, add any
    accumulated juices from the plate and bring to a boil
    over high.

    Cover and bake until all of the liquid is absorbed, rice
    is tender and chicken is cooked through, 25 minutes.
    Scatter cilantro over the chicken and rice, then divide
    among bowls. Serve with hot sauce.

    UDD NOTES: I cut the cilantro by half which allows the
    desired flavour without the "soapweed" effect. I also
    mash the ginger & garlic together in a mortar & pestle
    and add crushed red chile to zip things up a bit. Side
    with steamed broccoli or "stir fry" mixed vegetables.

    By: Kay Chun

    Yield: 4 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri May 10 06:37:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    When I was doing weakly (misspelling intentional) newspapers the "job shop" actually made more $$$ than the newspaper(s). Even with 5
    editions there just wasn't enough advertising or circulation revenue
    to provide a living for the staff. So, business cards, letterheads, envelopes, forms, short-run cook books, etc. kept us afloat.

    Anything to keep the presses running. The CMN (Catskill Mountain News)
    had several job presses in addition to the big press for the paper.

    The Herald papers sold off all of the "hot metal" printing equipment
    the Linotype went to another small town paper, the hand-set type went
    to a recycler and the type cases and drawers wound up with various
    antique dealers. We kept one small Kluge letterpress w/automatic feed capability as a numbering station for forms, etc. in the job shop.

    All type was set on a photo-setter and the newspaper(s) got printed at
    a "job" web press in another town.

    With the advent of the internet small town papers are disappearing at
    an alarming rate.

    I know, the CMN died last year. The owner that bought it back in the
    early 1900s hired dad in the early 50s, made him editor in the early
    60s. Dad had a disagreement with his son (who didn't know how to run a paper so was trying to tell dad the wrong way to do things) in the
    early 80s--dad said "I quit" just before the son (who, by now was boss) said "you're fired". Whole town backed dad but he never went back to
    them.

    I've told more than one clueless employer about placing his job where
    the sun never shines. Bv)= Mostly bosses who think they are royalty
    rather than executives. So, I voted with my feet. Bv)=

    Title: Farmer's Market Cobbler
    Categories: Pies, Pastry, Fruits
    Yield: 6 Servings

    It's getting to be that season. Steve brought home another basket of strawberries from the local market yesterday.

    This morning's e-edition of the local bird cage liner had a listing of near-by farmer's markets with times/dates and locations. And I noticed that my favourite farmstand - Suttill's - was advertising strawberries
    on their road sign w/a promise of "Asparagus next week". Bv)=

    Asparagus sounds good. Best I ever had was in Germany, white asparagus lightly blanched, then soaked in a light lemon vinegarette.

    My favourite way to eat aspapragus in freshly picked - right in the
    patch. Never did nor cooked/eaten white asparagus. I know how to get
    it to be white ... by keeping it in the dark. But, that's more hassle
    than I care to exert for a "special effect".

    Depending on the length of the asparagus stalks I'll use with my Mary
    Dunbar 3 qt. steamer (looks like a double boiler) or my "As Seen On TV"
    bamboo steamer to make this recipe:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Asparagus Hollandaise
    Categories: Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 4 servings

    2 bn Asparagus (about 1 lb)

    MMMMM------------------------HOLLANDAISE-----------------------------
    3/4 c Butter; melted
    3 lg Egg yolks
    2 tb White wine
    1 tb Dijon mustard
    1/4 ts Salt
    3 Drops hot sauce; to taste
    Juice & zest of 1 lemon

    Bring a small pot of water several inches deep to a slow
    simmer over a low heat. Fashion a double boiler by
    placing a glass or metal bowl over * not in * the pot of
    simmering water. In the bowl, off the heat whisk the egg
    yolks, wine, mustard, lemon juice, and hot sauce until
    light and frothy.

    Place the bowl over the barely simmering water and
    continue whisking until the mixture thickens and more
    than doubles in volume, about 4 or 5 minutes. Remove the
    bowl from the heat and whisk for a few moments. Slowly
    begin adding the melted butter in a steady stream,
    whisking continuously.

    Once all the butter has been incorporated, slowly whisk
    in the lemon juice. If you feel the sauce is a bit too
    thick feel free to slowly whisk in a few drops of warm
    water.

    Serve immediately or keep warm for a few minutes by
    covering it and placing it over the warm water, leaving
    the heat turned off beneath the water.

    Build a steamer with two pots nested together over
    medium high heat and steam the asparagus spears until
    bright green and tender, 5 minutes or so. Plate, top
    with generous spoonfuls of hollandaise and serve.

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.foodnetwork.ca

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun May 12 15:02:41 2024
    Hi Dave,


    We learned early on in school too. Now so many younger people don't
    even use cash (and a good number of older folks) that it's a wonder
    clerks can even run a register. They need to know how many nickels in a

    Confusers and cell phones are handy aids to have. But, they don't
    relieve us of the need to "use your loaf" (think).

    True, and not just for figuring out strategy on the latest computer
    "shoot 'em up" game. (G)


    We've done a varient on this over the years, had the original at WienerWald in Germany a number of times.

    Only Wienerwald I have had is the Wienerwald chicken that Lum's used
    to have on their menu - back when there was a Lum's and we had one.
    In the 70's a Swiss chain called Wienerwald purchased Lum's.
    Wienerwald, confusingly to Americans, had nothing to do with weiners.
    It specialized in chicken and schnitzel.

    Sounds like what we had in Germany, don't remember if it was Swiss
    owned at the time.

    And their chicken was really good - especially as a break from fried chicken. I liked it well enough I got a more-or-less copycat recipe
    and with minor adaptations made it my own. This works in an oven or on
    a Ferris wheel (rotissiere).

    We have a rotissiere attachment for one of our grills so will do chicken
    on that every so often. There's a whole one in the freezer awaiting that treatment, have to decide what seasoning to use this time. (G)

    Title: Wienerwald Chicken (Goldbroiler Recipe) DD>
    Categories: Poultry, Rubs, Marinades, Citrus, Fruits DD> Yield: 4
    Servings

    4 lb Broiler chicken

    Good thing I've already had supper, this looks good enough to try on a camping trip.

    I prefer the rotissiere - but if you've got the stuff/room in your RV.
    go for it. Bv)=

    Main meals are furnished as part of the rally for the next few days.
    After the rally we're going to stop at the Creation Museum and then head
    home. RV has to go into the shop for a bit, hopefully work will be
    finishe before our next trip.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun May 12 15:10:24 2024
    Hi Dave,


    The Herald papers sold off all of the "hot metal" printing equipment
    the Linotype went to another small town paper, the hand-set type went
    to a recycler and the type cases and drawers wound up with various
    antique dealers. We kept one small Kluge letterpress w/automatic feed capability as a numbering station for forms, etc. in the job shop.

    And time marched on......


    All type was set on a photo-setter and the newspaper(s) got printed at
    a "job" web press in another town.

    CMN did that at one point, I think it was after I left home to go to
    college or got married. Don't recall exactly when as I wasn't around for
    the change over.

    With the advent of the internet small town papers are disappearing at
    an alarming rate.

    I know, the CMN died last year. The owner that bought it back in the
    early 1900s hired dad in the early 50s, made him editor in the early
    60s. Dad had a disagreement with his son (who didn't know how to run a paper so was trying to tell dad the wrong way to do things) in the
    early 80s--dad said "I quit" just before the son (who, by now was boss) said "you're fired". Whole town backed dad but he never went back to
    them.

    I've told more than one clueless employer about placing his job where
    the sun never shines. Bv)= Mostly bosses who think they are
    royalty rather than executives. So, I voted with my feet. Bv)=

    This guy didn't know how to put together a paper, even tho his father
    had done so for some 50 or 60 years. I couldn't count how many times he
    and my dad had verbal "rounds" over the years, yet he still didn't know
    how to put together a newspaper. Family had bought IBM stock in the
    early (pre IBM as such) days and made their fortune so this guy was not
    working on the paper for a living as all the employees were.

    Title: Farmer's Market Cobbler
    Categories: Pies, Pastry, Fruits
    Yield: 6 Servings

    It's getting to be that season. Steve brought home another basket of strawberries from the local market yesterday.

    This morning's e-edition of the local bird cage liner had a listing of near-by farmer's markets with times/dates and locations. And I noticed that my favourite farmstand - Suttill's - was advertising strawberries
    on their road sign w/a promise of "Asparagus next week". Bv)=

    Asparagus sounds good. Best I ever had was in Germany, white asparagus lightly blanched, then soaked in a light lemon vinegarette.

    My favourite way to eat aspapragus in freshly picked - right in the

    I don't have the luxury of having a patch so I'll get it at the farmer's market.


    patch. Never did nor cooked/eaten white asparagus. I know how to get
    it to be white ... by keeping it in the dark. But, that's more hassle
    than I care to exert for a "special effect".

    I'll let others do the work; I'll just enjoy the results. But, we don't
    hardly see the white asparagus over here, and if it's available, usually
    it's a premium price for less than stellar looking stalks.

    Depending on the length of the asparagus stalks I'll use with my Mary Dunbar 3 qt. steamer (looks like a double boiler) or my "As Seen On
    TV" bamboo steamer to make this recipe:


    Title: Asparagus Hollandaise
    Categories: Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 4 servings

    I've got various ways to steam it but have never tried making the
    hollandaise sauce. I'd rather have a light sauce that doesn't detract
    from the taste of the greens.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Mon May 13 18:04:02 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    We learned early on in school too. Now so many younger people don't
    even use cash (and a good number of older folks) that it's a wonder
    clerks can even run a register. They need to know how many nickels in a

    Confusers and cell phones are handy aids to have. But, they don't
    relieve us of the need to "use your loaf" (think).

    True, and not just for figuring out strategy on the latest computer
    "shoot 'em up" game. (G)

    8<----- Verbosity Deleted ---->8

    And their chicken was really good - especially as a break from fried chicken. I liked it well enough I got a more-or-less copycat recipe
    and with minor adaptations made it my own. This works in an oven or on
    a Ferris wheel (rotissiere).

    We have a rotissiere attachment for one of our grills so will do
    chicken on that every so often. There's a whole one in the freezer awaiting that treatment, have to decide what seasoning to use this
    time. (G)

    I really liked my Farberware Ferris Wheel - did chickens, roasts and
    other things on it. One time I had a nice fat hen riding the ferris
    wheel and my girl friend started to put paper towels in the drip tray.

    When I asked she said "Make it easier to clean up." I told her "That's
    why I do the cooking and you do te dishes. The drippings are the base
    for the gravy."

    Title: Wienerwald Chicken (Goldbroiler Recipe) DD>
    Categories: Poultry, Rubs, Marinades, Citrus, Fruits DD> Yield:
    4
    Servings

    4 lb Broiler chicken

    Good thing I've already had supper, this looks good enough to try on a camping trip.

    I prefer the rotissiere - but if you've got the stuff/room in your RV.
    go for it. Bv)=

    Main meals are furnished as part of the rally for the next few days.
    After the rally we're going to stop at the Creation Museum and then
    head home. RV has to go into the shop for a bit, hopefully work will be finishe before our next trip.

    Nothing structural I hope. My brother offered my a Winnebago motor home
    he has sitting in his side yard. It's ben sitting for so long that all
    of the batteries will need replacing. And all six tires which are not
    only flat - but dry rotted. And I shudder to think of the condition of
    the belts and hoses in the engine bay. In this case - Free ... isn't.

    And that doesn't mean that the mice haven't been eating wires throughout
    the unit - not just on the engine.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Campfire Potatoes
    Categories: Potatoes, Vegetables, Cheese, Herbs
    Yield: 6 servings

    5 md Potatoes, peeled and thinly
    - sliced
    1 md Onion; sliced
    6 tb Butter
    1/3 c Shredded Cheddar cheese
    2 tb Minced fresh parsley
    1 tb Worcestershire sauce
    Salt & pepper
    1/4 c Chicken broth

    Place the potatoes and onion on a large piece of
    heavy-duty foil (about 20" X 20"); dot with butter.
    Combine the cheese, parsley, Worcestershire sauce, salt
    and pepper; sprinkle over potatoes.

    Fold foil up around potatoes and add broth. Seal the
    edges of foil well. Grill, covered, over medium heat for
    35-40 minutes or until potatoes are tender.

    JoAnn Dettbarn, Brainerd, Minnesota

    Makes: 6 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Mon May 13 18:35:37 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    The Herald papers sold off all of the "hot metal" printing equipment
    the Linotype went to another small town paper, the hand-set type went
    to a recycler and the type cases and drawers wound up with various
    antique dealers. We kept one small Kluge letterpress w/automatic feed capability as a numbering station for forms, etc. in the job shop.

    And time marched on......

    Used to march at a measured pace. Now it races ... the older I get the
    faster it seems to go.

    All type was set on a photo-setter and the newspaper(s) got printed at
    a "job" web press in another town.

    CMN did that at one point, I think it was after I left home to go to college or got married. Don't recall exactly when as I wasn't around
    for the change over.

    With the advent of the internet small town papers are disappearing at
    an alarming rate.

    I know, the CMN died last year. The owner that bought it back in the
    early 1900s hired dad in the early 50s, made him editor in the early
    60s. Dad had a disagreement with his son (who didn't know how to run a paper so was trying to tell dad the wrong way to do things) in the
    early 80s--dad said "I quit" just before the son (who, by now was boss) said "you're fired". Whole town backed dad but he never went back to
    them.

    I've told more than one clueless employer about placing his job where
    the sun never shines. Bv)= Mostly bosses who think they are
    royalty rather than executives. So, I voted with my feet. Bv)=

    This guy didn't know how to put together a paper, even tho his father
    had done so for some 50 or 60 years. I couldn't count how many times he and my dad had verbal "rounds" over the years, yet he still didn't know how to put together a newspaper. Family had bought IBM stock in the
    early (pre IBM as such) days and made their fortune so this guy was not working on the paper for a living as all the employees were.

    Just because you've got a pile of sheckels doesn't make you smart. But it might make you a politician where you can really do some damage.

    Title: Farmer's Market Cobbler
    Categories: Pies, Pastry, Fruits
    Yield: 6 Servings

    It's getting to be that season. Steve brought home another basket of strawberries from the local market yesterday.

    This morning's e-edition of the local bird cage liner had a listing of near-by farmer's markets with times/dates and locations. And I noticed that my favourite farmstand - Suttill's - was advertising strawberries
    on their road sign w/a promise of "Asparagus next week". Bv)=

    Asparagus sounds good. Best I ever had was in Germany, white asparagus lightly blanched, then soaked in a light lemon vinegarette.

    My favourite way to eat aspapragus in freshly picked - right in the

    I don't have the luxury of having a patch so I'll get it at the
    farmer's market.

    The tree guys came and removed thje evergreen hedge from the front of
    the house this morning. I'll be putting in a 30 by 4 by 2 feet tall
    raised be garden. It's a little late in the year for many things - but
    I can still do tomatoes, radishes, carrots and chilies. I'm debating
    with myself whether to rent a small Bobcat to dig a trench for asparagus
    roots. Or to hire it done. I'm certainly past the point of hand-digging
    the bed. I may talk to my friend Laszlo to see if his scout troupe would
    be interested in earning and learning. Bv)=

    patch. Never did nor cooked/eaten white asparagus. I know how to get
    it to be white ... by keeping it in the dark. But, that's more hassle
    than I care to exert for a "special effect".

    I'll let others do the work; I'll just enjoy the results. But, we don't hardly see the white asparagus over here, and if it's available,
    usually it's a premium price for less than stellar looking stalks.

    Is there any substantial difference in flavour of white and "normal"
    asparagus?

    Depending on the length of the asparagus stalks I'll use with my Mary Dunbar 3 qt. steamer (looks like a double boiler) or my "As Seen On
    TV" bamboo steamer to make this recipe:

    Title: Asparagus Hollandaise
    Categories: Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 4 servings

    I've got various ways to steam it but have never tried making the hollandaise sauce. I'd rather have a light sauce that doesn't detract
    from the taste of the greens.

    Hollandaise, at least the way I make it, enhances the flavour rather
    than overwhelms it. Certainly it's better than the stuff from the can
    of Golden Age (food service) sauce. Bv)=

    Here's another quick 'n' easy sauce that goes good with asparagus and
    many other things.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: 5 Minute Garlic Aioli
    Categories: Sauces, Dips, Citrus
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 lg Egg yolk
    1/4 c Extra virgin olive oil
    2 cl Garlic
    2 ts Fresh squeezed lemon juice
    1/4 ts Sea salt
    1/2 ts Dijon mustard

    Add the garlic, egg yolk, lemon juice, dijon mustard,
    and salt to a small food processor or use an immersion
    blender. Turn it on and slowly drizzle in the olive oil
    until emulsified. It should be thick and creamy.

    Taste and add more salt or lemon juice if desired. Blend
    in more oil if it's too thin or water if it's too thick.
    Transfer to a bowl and serve. Enjoy!

    Makes 1/3 cup.

    UDD NOTE: If this is too "garlicky" use roasted garlic
    to tone it down.

    RECIPE FROM: https://drivemehungry.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Dave Drum on Tue May 14 11:12:51 2024
    Re: Re: Round Tuits
    By: Dave Drum to Ruth Haffly on Mon May 13 2024 18:35:37

    UDD NOTE: If this is too "garlicky" use roasted garlic
    to tone it down.

    I see what you did there.
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ben Collver on Wed May 15 05:05:00 2024
    Ben Collver wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    UDD NOTE: If this is too "garlicky" use roasted garlic
    to tone it down.

    I see what you did there.

    In reference to what? I'm confoozled.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Roasted Garlic & Herb Shrimp w/Spaghetti
    Categories: Seafood, Pasta, Herbs, Sauces, Chilies
    Yield: 4 Servings

    2 tb Olive oil
    3 cl Garlic; crushed
    3 c Roasted garlic & herb
    - Italian sauce
    1/2 ts Crushed red pepper
    1 lb Medium shrimp; peeled,
    - deveined
    10 oz Pkg Pepperidge Farm garlic
    - bread
    16 oz Pkg spaghetti; cooked,
    - drained
    3 tb Minced fresh Italian parsley
    - rosemary or thyme, opt

    Set the oven @ 400oF/205oC for the bread.

    Heat the oil in a 12" skillet over medium heat. Add
    the garlic and cook until it's golden.

    Stir the sauce and red pepper in the skillet and heat
    to a boil. Reduce the heat to low. Add the shrimp and
    cook for 5 minutes or until they're cooked through.

    Meanwhile, bake the bread according to the package
    directions.

    Toss the spaghetti with the shrimp mixture. Sprinkle
    with the parsley. Cut the bread in 2" diagonal slices.

    Serve the bread with the spaghetti mixture.

    From: http://www.hy-vee.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue May 14 15:32:26 2024
    Hi Dave,

    and with minor adaptations made it my own. This works in an oven or on
    a Ferris wheel (rotissiere).

    We have a rotissiere attachment for one of our grills so will do
    chicken on that every so often. There's a whole one in the freezer awaiting that treatment, have to decide what seasoning to use this
    time. (G)

    I really liked my Farberware Ferris Wheel - did chickens, roasts and
    other things on it. One time I had a nice fat hen riding the ferris
    wheel and my girl friend started to put paper towels in the drip tray.

    When I asked she said "Make it easier to clean up." I told her "That's
    why I do the cooking and you do te dishes. The drippings are the base
    for the gravy."

    Whoops! Hopefully you were able to salvage enough drippings to make a
    decent gravy.


    I prefer the rotissiere - but if you've got the stuff/room in your RV.
    go for it. Bv)=

    Main meals are furnished as part of the rally for the next few days.
    After the rally we're going to stop at the Creation Museum and then
    head home. RV has to go into the shop for a bit, hopefully work will be finishe before our next trip.

    Nothing structural I hope. My brother offered my a Winnebago motor
    home he has sitting in his side yard. It's ben sitting for so long
    that all
    of the batteries will need replacing. And all six tires which are not
    only flat - but dry rotted. And I shudder to think of the condition of
    the belts and hoses in the engine bay. In this case - Free ... isn't.

    Bits and pieces of things mostly, covered by the warranty. We think it
    was either a Monday afternoon or Friday morning model, some nice
    features and some "What were they thinking.......?" features. A piece of
    non warranty work is going to be replacing one side--the aluminum got
    creased good by a trer branch in TX.

    And that doesn't mean that the mice haven't been eating wires
    throughout the unit - not just on the engine.

    Sound like you're better off without it; I'd hate to think of how much
    money would have to be sunk into it to make it even basically road
    worthy.


    Title: Campfire Potatoes
    Categories: Potatoes, Vegetables, Cheese, Herbs
    Yield: 6 servings

    We've been cooking indoors for the most part, not done anything major so
    far, even tho brought stuff to do so. We ate out last night with some of
    the Rally folks at a Penn. Dutch place, buffet had a lot of good stuff
    so I just took little bits of maybe half a dozen things plus about the
    same on the salad bar. Went to the Smucker's store in the
    afternoon--lots of nothing we needed so went on to the Coblinz chocolate
    place and spent some money there. (G)

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue May 14 15:43:42 2024
    Hi Dave,

    antique dealers. We kept one small Kluge letterpress w/automatic feed capability as a numbering station for forms, etc. in the job shop.

    And time marched on......

    Used to march at a measured pace. Now it races ... the older I get the faster it seems to go.

    I know, it's hard to believe that the year is more than a quarter gone
    already.

    This guy didn't know how to put together a paper, even tho his father
    had done so for some 50 or 60 years. I couldn't count how many times he early (pre IBM as such) days and made their fortune so this guy was not working on the paper for a living as all the employees were.

    Just because you've got a pile of sheckels doesn't make you smart. But
    it might make you a politician where you can really do some damage.

    True, and most likely someone not worth voting for.

    that my favourite farmstand - Suttill's - was advertising strawberries
    on their road sign w/a promise of "Asparagus next week". Bv)=

    Asparagus sounds good. Best I ever had was in Germany, white asparagus lightly blanched, then soaked in a light lemon vinegarette.

    My favourite way to eat aspapragus in freshly picked - right in the

    I don't have the luxury of having a patch so I'll get it at the
    farmer's market.

    The tree guys came and removed thje evergreen hedge from the front of
    the house this morning. I'll be putting in a 30 by 4 by 2 feet tall
    raised be garden. It's a little late in the year for many things - but
    I can still do tomatoes, radishes, carrots and chilies. I'm debating
    with myself whether to rent a small Bobcat to dig a trench for
    asparagus roots. Or to hire it done. I'm certainly past the point of hand-digging the bed. I may talk to my friend Laszlo to see if his
    scout troupe would be interested in earning and learning. Bv)=

    Scouts would probably enjoy doing it, especially if there was a donation
    to the troop as part of it. Depending on how long it took/turnout of
    scouts, grilling some hot dogs at the end or for lunch might be part of
    the payment as well.


    patch. Never did nor cooked/eaten white asparagus. I know how to get
    it to be white ... by keeping it in the dark. But, that's more hassle
    than I care to exert for a "special effect".

    I'll let others do the work; I'll just enjoy the results. But, we don't hardly see the white asparagus over here, and if it's available,
    usually it's a premium price for less than stellar looking stalks.

    Is there any substantial difference in flavour of white and "normal" asparagus?

    White has a more delicate flavor than green. The green asparagus usually
    has a strong, earthy taste but the white is milder in comparison. Best
    way to find out is to buy a couple of stalks of each, cook them the same
    way and do a side by side taste test.


    Depending on the length of the asparagus stalks I'll use with my Mary Dunbar 3 qt. steamer (looks like a double boiler) or my "As Seen On
    TV" bamboo steamer to make this recipe:

    Title: Asparagus Hollandaise
    Categories: Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 4 servings

    I've got various ways to steam it but have never tried making the hollandaise sauce. I'd rather have a light sauce that doesn't detract
    from the taste of the greens.

    Hollandaise, at least the way I make it, enhances the flavour rather
    than overwhelms it. Certainly it's better than the stuff from the can
    of Golden Age (food service) sauce. Bv)=

    I'd make it myself, most things that come out of food service size cans
    aren't very tasty.


    Here's another quick 'n' easy sauce that goes good with asparagus and
    many other things.


    Title: 5 Minute Garlic Aioli
    Categories: Sauces, Dips, Citrus
    Yield: 4 servings

    It does look good.
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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Dave Drum on Wed May 15 12:14:46 2024
    Re: Re: Round Tuits
    By: Dave Drum to Ben Collver on Wed May 15 2024 05:05:00

    UDD NOTE: If this is too "garlicky" use roasted garlic
    to tone it down.

    I see what you did there.

    In reference to what? I'm confoozled.

    I read it as "if this is too garlicky, then add more garlic!"

    I probably should have read it as "if you think this will be too
    garlicky, then substitute roasted garlic instead of raw garlic."
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Thu May 16 05:19:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I really liked my Farberware Ferris Wheel - did chickens, roasts and
    other things on it. One time I had a nice fat hen riding the ferris
    wheel and my girl friend started to put paper towels in the drip tray.

    When I asked she said "Make it easier to clean up." I told her "That's
    why I do the cooking and you do te dishes. The drippings are the base
    for the gravy."

    Whoops! Hopefully you were able to salvage enough drippings to make a decent gravy.

    It was "early days" and the chicken hadn't started sweating any fat yet.
    PHEW!

    I prefer the rotissiere - but if you've got the stuff/room in your RV.
    go for it. Bv)=

    Main meals are furnished as part of the rally for the next few days.
    After the rally we're going to stop at the Creation Museum and then
    head home. RV has to go into the shop for a bit, hopefully work will be finishe before our next trip.

    Nothing structural I hope. My brother offered my a Winnebago motor
    home he has sitting in his side yard. It's ben sitting for so long
    that all of the batteries will need replacing. And all six tires
    only flat - but dry rotted. And I shudder to think of the which are
    not condition of the belts and hoses in the engine bay.

    In this case - Free ... isn't.

    Bits and pieces of things mostly, covered by the warranty. We think it
    was either a Monday afternoon or Friday morning model, some nice
    features and some "What were they thinking.......?" features. A piece
    of non warranty work is going to be replacing one side--the aluminum
    got creased good by a trer branch in TX.

    OWTCH. It always hurts more when it's self inflicted.

    And that doesn't mean that the mice haven't been eating wires
    throughout the unit - not just on the engine.

    Sound like you're better off without it; I'd hate to think of how much money would have to be sunk into it to make it even basically road
    worthy.

    6 General (my preferred brand) 11R22.5 tires @ U$550/tire
    3 Deep Cycle Marine/RV batteries @ U$250

    Just to get started. That's not a money pit. It's a canyon. Bv)=

    Title: Campfire Potatoes
    Categories: Potatoes, Vegetables, Cheese, Herbs
    Yield: 6 servings

    We've been cooking indoors for the most part, not done anything major
    so far, even tho brought stuff to do so. We ate out last night with
    some of the Rally folks at a Penn. Dutch place, buffet had a lot of
    good stuff so I just took little bits of maybe half a dozen things plus about the same on the salad bar. Went to the Smucker's store in the afternoon--lots of nothing we needed so went on to the Coblinz
    chocolate place and spent some money there. (G)

    Buffets can be a good thing or a hazard. With the reduction in capacity
    as I age out it's hard to get my "money's worth" at an AYCE place. If
    I eat too much I'm either miserable or so carb-loaded that all I want
    is a soft spot and a nap. Bv0=

    Still, sometimes on a weeked morning I'll hit the Golden Corral's AYCE breakfast and pig out on bacon and some really good cinnamon rolls - of
    course with hash-brown casserole, eggs, sausage gravy. etc. But, then I
    won't eat anything for the rest of the day .... uuually.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cinnamon Rolls
    Categories: Breads, Icing, Nuts
    Yield: 12 Rolls

    MMMMM---------------------------DOUGH--------------------------------
    3/4 c Milk
    1 lg Egg
    1/2 ts Salt
    4 tb Butter; cut up
    3 c Bread flour
    3 tb Sugar
    2 ts Yeast

    MMMMM--------------------------FILLING-------------------------------
    1/3 c Butter; melted
    1/2 c Sugar
    2 ts Cinnamon
    1/2 ts Nutmeg
    1/2 c Nuts; chopped

    MMMMM---------------------------ICING--------------------------------
    1 c Powdered sugar
    1 tb Milk; more as needed
    1/2 ts Vanilla

    Add dough ingredients to bread machine pan in order
    given; use dough setting on machine.

    When machine chimes, remove dough, placing on floured
    surface. Knead dough 1 minute, then let rest for 15
    minutes.

    Roll dough out into a rectangle, 15" x 10". Spread
    melted butter over dough to within 1" of edges. Sprinkle
    sugar, cinnamon, nutmeg & nuts evenly over dough. Roll
    dough up tightly on long side. Press edges to seal and
    form into a 12" long roll. Cut roll into 1" slices.

    Place rolls into greased 13" x 9" baking pan. Cover and
    let rise in warm place 30-45 minutes until doubled in
    size.

    Bake in a 375ºF/190ºC oven for 20-25 minutes or until
    golden.

    Cool in pan for 10-15 minutes, then drizzle with icing.

    Recipe By: Kris Milliron

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Thu May 16 05:51:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    This guy didn't know how to put together a paper, even tho his father
    had done so for some 50 or 60 years. I couldn't count how many times he early (pre IBM as such) days and made their fortune so this guy was not working on the paper for a living as all the employees were.

    Just because you've got a pile of sheckels doesn't make you smart. But
    it might make you a politician where you can really do some damage.

    True, and most likely someone not worth voting for.

    True dat. I find it hard to believe than in a country of 340 million
    people the two 'assumed' presidential candidates are the best we can do.
    Still, yo gotta vote - if you don't vote you have no right to gripe.

    And I'm going to gripe.

    8<---- SHORTEN ----->8

    The tree guys came and removed thje evergreen hedge from the front of
    the house this morning. I'll be putting in a 30 by 4 by 2 feet tall
    raised be garden. It's a little late in the year for many things - but
    I can still do tomatoes, radishes, carrots and chilies. I'm debating
    with myself whether to rent a small Bobcat to dig a trench for
    asparagus roots. Or to hire it done. I'm certainly past the point of hand-digging the bed. I may talk to my friend Laszlo to see if his
    scout troupe would be interested in earning and learning. Bv)=

    Scouts would probably enjoy doing it, especially if there was a
    donation to the troop as part of it. Depending on how long it
    took/turnout of scouts, grilling some hot dogs at the end or for lunch might be part of the payment as well.

    Kids like to eat. That's a fact.

    patch. Never did nor cooked/eaten white asparagus. I know how to get
    it to be white ... by keeping it in the dark. But, that's more hassle
    than I care to exert for a "special effect".

    I'll let others do the work; I'll just enjoy the results. But, we don't hardly see the white asparagus over here, and if it's available,
    usually it's a premium price for less than stellar looking stalks.

    Is there any substantial difference in flavour of white and "normal" asparagus?

    White has a more delicate flavor than green. The green asparagus
    usually has a strong, earthy taste but the white is milder in
    comparison. Best way to find out is to buy a couple of stalks of each, cook them the same way and do a side by side taste test.

    OK. I'll probably pass it then. I like "bold" flavours.

    Depending on the length of the asparagus stalks I'll use with my Mary Dunbar 3 qt. steamer (looks like a double boiler) or my "As Seen On
    TV" bamboo steamer to make this recipe:

    Title: Asparagus Hollandaise
    Categories: Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 4 servings

    I've got various ways to steam it but have never tried making the hollandaise sauce. I'd rather have a light sauce that doesn't detract
    from the taste of the greens.

    Hollandaise, at least the way I make it, enhances the flavour rather
    than overwhelms it. Certainly it's better than the stuff from the can
    of Golden Age (food service) sauce. Bv)=

    I'd make it myself, most things that come out of food service size cans aren't very tasty.

    It's pretty essy butter, egg yolks and lemon juice and some stirring.

    Some years ago I got into a fuss at a breakfast buffet with their egg
    mechanic (I refuse to call him a cook) over the Hollandaise with the
    Eggs Benedict .... not to mention that the "poached" eggs were cooked
    to the point that the yolks were "set".

    He told me "If you think you can do any better ..." and pointed me to
    the kitchen. I took him up on it and soon found what I needed and was
    just about finished when this female voice asked loudy "What ate you
    doing in my kitchen?!?!?" It was the restaurant manager.

    So I explained how it came to pass. As I took the pan from the hob she
    ran a finger through my sauce and popped it into her mouth. I nearly
    clocked her one upside the head. That finger was a definite no-no in
    any kitchen I have worked in - for pay or at home.

    She removed the finger from her mouth and asked "You want a job?" Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Perfect Poached Eggs
    Categories: Eggs
    Yield: 2 servings

    4 lg Eggs

    Fill a saucepan with several inches of water. Heat the
    water on high until it reaches a boil and then lower the
    heat until the water is at a bare simmer (just a few
    bubbles coming up now and then).

    Working with the eggs one at a time, crack the egg into
    a small bowl or cup. Place the bowl close to the surface
    of the hot water and gently slip the egg into the water.

    If you want, use a spoon to push some of the egg whites
    closer to their yolks, to help them hold together. Add
    all of the eggs you are poaching to the pan in the same
    way, keeping some distance between them.

    Turn off the heat and cover the pan. Set a timer for 4
    minutes. At this point the egg whites should be
    completely cooked, while the egg yolks are still runny.

    Note that the timing depends on the size of the eggs,
    the number of eggs in the pot, and if you are cooking at
    altitude, so adjust accordingly. If you are at altitude,
    want firmer egg yolks, or are poaching more than 4 eggs
    at once, you may need to cook them longer. If you try 4
    minutes and the eggs are too cooked, reduce the time.

    Gently lift the poached eggs out of the pan with a
    slotted spoon and place on a plate to serve.

    To easily drain the eggs, place them on a slice of stale
    bread before serving. The bread will absorb the water-no
    more soggy poached eggs!

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.simplyrecipes.com

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DAVE DRUM on Thu May 16 08:34:00 2024
    True, and most likely someone not worth voting for.

    True dat. I find it hard to believe than in a country of 340 million
    people the two 'assumed' presidential candidates are the best we can do.

    Yeah, no kidding. That is starting to become pretty commonplace here, though... instead of picking the best candidate, you have to try to figure
    out who the "least worst" is.

    Still, yo gotta vote - if you don't vote you have no right to gripe.

    And I'm going to gripe.

    Me, too!

    Mike


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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ben Collver on Thu May 16 08:54:00 2024
    Ben Collver wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    UDD NOTE: If this is too "garlicky" use roasted garlic
    to tone it down.

    I see what you did there.MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Editor's Favourite Thai Fish Sauce & Lime Chicken
    Categories: Oriental, Poultry, Nuts, Citrus, Sauces
    Yield: 4 Servings

    24 oz Chicken meat; skinned, boned
    1/4 ts Salt
    1 tb Oil
    1 c Chicken broth
    3 tb Sweetened chilli sauce
    2 ts Fish sauce
    1/4 c Fresh lime juice
    1 ts Creamy peanut butter
    2 tb Chopped roasted peanuts
    Lime wedges (opt)

    Sweetened chilli sauce is found in Asian markets, and it
    is often served alongside egg rolls. A similar condiment
    available in most grocery stores is called Thai sweet
    red chile dipping sauce.

    Place chicken between 2 sheets of heavy-duty plastic
    wrap; pound to 1/2" thickness using a meat mallet or
    rolling pin. Sprinkle chicken evenly with 1/4 ts salt.

    Heat oil in a large nonstick skillet over medium heat.
    Add chicken; cook 6 minutes on each side or until done.
    Remove chicken from pan; keep warm.

    Add broth, chilli sauce, and fish sauce; bring to a boil,
    scraping pan to loosen browned bits. Cook until broth
    mixture is reduced to 2/3 cup (about 4 minutes). Remove
    from heat; add lime juice and peanut butter, stirring
    until smooth. Serve sauce over chicken; sprinkle with
    peanuts.

    Garnish with lime wedges, if desired.

    Serve this chicken with white rice.

    Yield: 4 servings

    Recipe by Cheryl Alters Jamison and Bill Jamison

    Cooking Light | JANUARY 2005

    From: http://find.myrecipes.com

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    In reference to what? I'm confoozled.

    I read it as "if this is too garlicky, then add more garlic!"

    I probably should have read it as "if you think this will be too
    garlicky, then substitute roasted garlic instead of raw garlic."

    The mind sees what it expects to see most often. Which is why most
    writers let someone else edit their writings. Seriously. Many time an
    outsider will pounce on a glaring error that the writer has missed on
    multiple re-readings.


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Mike Powell on Fri May 17 05:54:13 2024
    Mike Powell wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    True, and most likely someone not worth voting for.

    True dat. I find it hard to believe than in a country of 340 million
    people the two 'assumed' presidential candidates are the best we can do.

    Yeah, no kidding. That is starting to become pretty commonplace here, though... instead of picking the best candidate, you have to try to
    figure out who the "least worst" is.

    Still, yo gotta vote - if you don't vote you have no right to gripe.

    And I'm going to gripe.

    Me, too!

    It's getting almost as bad as religion ... which is another verboten
    topic for for the cooking echo. I'm going to leave off lest I get a
    "rocket" from the moderator. Bv)-

    I tried the poly-tics echoes some years ago and they were filled with extremists and schoolyard bullies. I've had to deal with enough of those
    in real life - so I shined them on.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Politically Correct Balkan Pljeskavica
    Categories: Pork, Grains, Cheese, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb (440g) ground pork
    1 lg Egg
    1 tb Cracked wheat, bulgur, flour
    - or bread crumbs
    1/2 c Chopped mushrooms
    1/2 c Grated "yellow" cheese
    1/2 c Crumbled feta
    Splash of beer
    Paprika, salt & pepper
    1 ts Chile powder
    1/4 ts Dried oregano or chubritsa
    2 tb Chopped fresh dill; (the key
    - ingredient)
    Onions & garlic are optional

    * kashkaval cheese if can get it

    A kind reader passed along ths, which, he says is a
    hybrid of the pljeskavica he found in Serbia (where it
    is best), in Macedonia (where they claim to have invented
    it), and in Bulgaria (where he lives). In Serbia and
    Macedonia they like to serve it as a giant flat communal
    burger, he says, so it can be spread on a baking pan,
    baked until it turns slightly pink, and then put on the
    grill.

    Pljeskavica is traditionally served with a salad of
    chopped tomatoes and cucumbers with feta, salt and oil,
    fresh bread, and "of course," Balkan (or even Czech)
    plum brandy. It may also be served with djuvec rice.

    Mix the ingredients together in a large bowl. Make
    individual patties or one large one.

    Cook on a grill, a grill pan, a frying pan, or under the
    broiler.

    From: http://www.ochef.com

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DAVE DRUM on Fri May 17 09:50:00 2024
    It's getting almost as bad as religion ... which is another verboten
    topic for for the cooking echo. I'm going to leave off lest I get a
    "rocket" from the moderator. Bv)-

    Well, I am the moderator but it is best to leave those topics for elsewhere.

    I tried the poly-tics echoes some years ago and they were filled with extremists and schoolyard bullies. I've had to deal with enough of those
    in real life - so I shined them on.

    Indeed!

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Politically Correct Balkan Pljeskavica
    Categories: Pork, Grains, Cheese, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb (440g) ground pork

    This sounds pretty good. It is difficult to mess up pork. :) Several
    years ago, there was a pizza place in Brownsburg, Indiana, called Adriatic Pizza. The owners were from the former Yugoslavia (Slovenia, IIRC). They
    used some different sausages and herbs than you'd find at most other pizza places. The pizza was really good!

    Last time I was by there, they were not there any more. A lot of the
    locals were disappointed that the previous joint, that featured a lot of
    old racing memorabilia, was gone and I don't think they gave the new place a chance. Their loss!

    Mike


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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Mike Powell on Sat May 18 06:27:00 2024
    Mike Powell wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    It's getting almost as bad as religion ... which is another verboten
    topic for for the cooking echo. I'm going to leave off lest I get a
    "rocket" from the moderator. Bv)-

    Well, I am the moderator but it is best to leave those topics for elsewhere.

    Oh, that's right. Sean gave it up due to health issues. We're a pretty
    well behaved bunch and don't require as much supervision as some of the
    more contentious echoes. Bv)=

    I tried the poly-tics echoes some years ago and they were filled with extremists and schoolyard bullies. I've had to deal with enough of those
    in real life - so I shined them on.

    Indeed!

    As I said above .....

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Politically Correct Balkan Pljeskavica
    Categories: Pork, Grains, Cheese, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb (440g) ground pork

    This sounds pretty good. It is difficult to mess up pork. :) Several years ago, there was a pizza place in Brownsburg, Indiana, called
    Adriatic Pizza. The owners were from the former Yugoslavia (Slovenia, IIRC). They used some different sausages and herbs than you'd find at most other pizza places. The pizza was really good!

    Last time I was by there, they were not there any more. A lot of the locals were disappointed that the previous joint, that featured a lot
    of old racing memorabilia, was gone and I don't think they gave the new place a chance. Their loss!

    I once got into a Greek place when I was in Quebec with my Hoosier Tire
    crew doing an CATcar race at Sanair Super Speedway. The restaurant was
    next door to our hotel. The crew guys wanted pizza - which looked odd
    when brought to the table - lumps of cheese (crumbled feta) and BIG
    slices of tomato. The sausage was from links sliced in coins. I tried a
    small slice and it had a very nice flavour. But I went back to my order
    of moussaka.

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    I've done this a couple times. But the Macedonians, Janos and Ozzie at
    the local truckstop cafe do it better. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Meat & Potato Moussaka
    Categories: Lamb/mutton, Beef, Potatoes, Cheese, Dairy
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 lb Ground lamb or beef
    1 md Onion; chopped
    1 cl Garlic; minced
    3/4 c Water
    6 oz Can tomato paste
    3 tb Minced fresh parsley
    1 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Dried mint; opt
    1/4 ts Ground cinnamon
    1/4 ts Pepper
    5 md Potatoes; peeled, thin
    - sliced

    MMMMM-----------------------PARMESAN SAUCE----------------------------
    1/4 c Butter; in cubes
    1/4 c All-purpose flour
    2 c Milk
    4 lg Eggs; lightly beaten
    1/2 c Grated Parmesan cheese
    1/2 ts Salt

    In a large skillet, cook beef and onion over medium heat
    until meat is no longer pink. Add garlic; cook 1 minute
    longer. Drain. Stir in the water, tomato paste, parsley,
    salt, mint if desired, cinnamon and pepper. Set aside.

    For sauce, melt butter in a saucepan over medium heat.
    Stir in flour until smooth; gradually add milk. Bring to
    a boil; cook and stir for 2 minutes or until thickened.
    Remove from the heat. Stir a small amount of hot mixture
    into eggs; return all to the pan, stirring constantly.
    Add cheese and salt.

    Place half of the potato slices in a greased shallow 3 qt
    baking dish. Top with half of the cheese sauce and all of
    the meat mixture. Arrange the remaining potatoes over
    meat mixture; top with the remaining cheese sauce.

    Bake, uncovered, @ 350oF/175oC for 1 hour. Let stand for
    10 minutes before serving.

    Jean Puffer, Chilliwack, British Columbia

    Yield: 6 servings.

    From: http://www.tasteofhome.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri May 17 17:08:22 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Back home from our wanderings; we were out first in western NY for a
    few days, then in the Berlin/Millersburg, Ohio region for about a week.
    Had some good eating out in both places.

    wheel and my girl friend started to put paper towels in the drip
    tray.

    When I asked she said "Make it easier to clean up." I told her "That's
    why I do the cooking and you do te dishes. The drippings are the base
    for the gravy."

    Whoops! Hopefully you were able to salvage enough drippings to make a decent gravy.

    It was "early days" and the chicken hadn't started sweating any fat
    yet. PHEW!

    Good catch then.


    I prefer the rotissiere - but if you've got the stuff/room in your RV.
    go for it. Bv)=

    Main meals are furnished as part of the rally for the next few days.
    After the rally we're going to stop at the Creation Museum and then
    head home. RV has to go into the shop for a bit, hopefully work will be finishe before our next trip.

    Nothing structural I hope. My brother offered my a Winnebago motor
    home he has sitting in his side yard. It's ben sitting for so long
    that all of the batteries will need replacing. And all six tires
    only flat - but dry rotted. And I shudder to think of the which are
    not condition of the belts and hoses in the engine bay.

    In this case - Free ... isn't.

    Bits and pieces of things mostly, covered by the warranty. We think it
    was either a Monday afternoon or Friday morning model, some nice
    features and some "What were they thinking.......?" features. A piece
    of non warranty work is going to be replacing one side--the aluminum
    got creased good by a tree branch in TX.

    OWTCH. It always hurts more when it's self inflicted.

    The repair shop will have some more work to do now. Stopped for gas
    yesterday in Beckley, WVA at a Sam's Club. To get to the station, had to
    go up a hill, then make a left turn. Steve started turning, camper
    doesn't swing as wide as the truck so he caught the back end of another
    pickup truck. From what I understand, relativly light damage to the
    truck but a good scrape along the lower (opposite, go figure) side of
    the camper. Steve said that the cop that checked them out said that it's
    not the first accident there so it sounds like the road needs to be
    redesigned.

    And that doesn't mean that the mice haven't been eating wires DD>
    throughout the unit - not just on the engine.

    Sound like you're better off without it; I'd hate to think of how much money would have to be sunk into it to make it even basically road
    worthy.

    6 General (my preferred brand) 11R22.5 tires @ U$550/tire
    3 Deep Cycle Marine/RV batteries @ U$250

    Just to get started. That's not a money pit. It's a canyon. Bv)=

    A rather grand one at that.


    We've been cooking indoors for the most part, not done anything major
    so far, even tho brought stuff to do so. We ate out last night with
    some of the Rally folks at a Penn. Dutch place, buffet had a lot of
    good stuff so I just took little bits of maybe half a dozen things plus about the same on the salad bar. Went to the Smucker's store in the afternoon--lots of nothing we needed so went on to the Coblinz
    chocolate place and spent some money there. (G)

    Buffets can be a good thing or a hazard. With the reduction in
    capacity as I age out it's hard to get my "money's worth" at an AYCE place. If
    I eat too much I'm either miserable or so carb-loaded that all I want
    is a soft spot and a nap. Bv0=

    I try to go easy, with second buffet I asked for a piece of
    strawberry/rhubarb pie--to go. It was good, but not great.


    Still, sometimes on a weeked morning I'll hit the Golden Corral's AYCE breakfast and pig out on bacon and some really good cinnamon rolls -
    of course with hash-brown casserole, eggs, sausage gravy. etc. But,
    then I won't eat anything for the rest of the day .... uuually.

    Our Golden Corral closed, building became a ghost kitchen for several
    take out places.


    Title: Cinnamon Rolls
    Categories: Breads, Icing, Nuts
    Yield: 12 Rolls

    We got some pastries (was supposed to be just doughnuts) yesterday at
    the end of the rally. Steve brought home a couple of about 12" long,
    probably close to 6" round creme filled with thick icing (one maple, one chocolate) pastries. He also had a couple of probably 8" diameter
    "snails". I had about 4" of the maple pastry yesteray, about 6" of one
    section of the snail today, both for breakfast. Others will be consumed
    over the next couple of days.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri May 17 17:24:19 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Just because you've got a pile of sheckels doesn't make you smart. But
    it might make you a politician where you can really do some damage.

    True, and most likely someone not worth voting for.

    True dat. I find it hard to believe than in a country of 340 million people the two 'assumed' presidential candidates are the best we can
    do. Still, yo gotta vote - if you don't vote you have no right to
    gripe.

    Agreed, and enough said.


    And I'm going to gripe.

    8<---- SHORTEN ----->8

    The tree guys came and removed thje evergreen hedge from the front of
    the house this morning. I'll be putting in a 30 by 4 by 2 feet tall
    raised be garden. It's a little late in the year for many things - but
    I can still do tomatoes, radishes, carrots and chilies. I'm debating
    with myself whether to rent a small Bobcat to dig a trench for
    asparagus roots. Or to hire it done. I'm certainly past the point of hand-digging the bed. I may talk to my friend Laszlo to see if his
    scout troupe would be interested in earning and learning. Bv)=

    Scouts would probably enjoy doing it, especially if there was a
    donation to the troop as part of it. Depending on how long it
    took/turnout of scouts, grilling some hot dogs at the end or for lunch might be part of the payment as well.

    Kids like to eat. That's a fact.

    And some of them can really pack away the food. My younger brother was
    one of them--from the time he started eating solid food, he would put
    away enough food to feed a grown man. He has slacked off some over the
    years but he could probably still eat more than Steve and me combined at
    any meal.


    Is there any substantial difference in flavour of white and "normal" asparagus?

    White has a more delicate flavor than green. The green asparagus
    usually has a strong, earthy taste but the white is milder in
    comparison. Best way to find out is to buy a couple of stalks of each, cook them the same way and do a side by side taste test.

    OK. I'll probably pass it then. I like "bold" flavours.

    IMO, they're both good, depends on what I'm having with it as to if I'll
    want white or green asparagus.


    Title: Asparagus Hollandaise
    Categories: Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 4 servings

    I've got various ways to steam it but have never tried making the hollandaise sauce. I'd rather have a light sauce that doesn't detract
    from the taste of the greens.

    Hollandaise, at least the way I make it, enhances the flavour rather
    than overwhelms it. Certainly it's better than the stuff from the can
    of Golden Age (food service) sauce. Bv)=

    I'd make it myself, most things that come out of food service size cans aren't very tasty.

    It's pretty essy butter, egg yolks and lemon juice and some stirring.

    Some years ago I got into a fuss at a breakfast buffet with their egg mechanic (I refuse to call him a cook) over the Hollandaise with the
    Eggs Benedict .... not to mention that the "poached" eggs were cooked
    to the point that the yolks were "set".

    That's no cook.

    He told me "If you think you can do any better ..." and pointed me to
    the kitchen. I took him up on it and soon found what I needed and was
    just about finished when this female voice asked loudy "What ate you
    doing in my kitchen?!?!?" It was the restaurant manager.

    So I explained how it came to pass. As I took the pan from the hob she
    ran a finger through my sauce and popped it into her mouth. I nearly clocked her one upside the head. That finger was a definite no-no in
    any kitchen I have worked in - for pay or at home.

    Should have offered her a spoon. She should have known better; I'd
    probably not patronise that place again.

    She removed the finger from her mouth and asked "You want a job?"
    Bv)=

    Not working for you, lady. (G)

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DAVE DRUM on Sat May 18 13:31:00 2024
    Well, I am the moderator but it is best to leave those topics for elsewhere.

    Oh, that's right. Sean gave it up due to health issues. We're a pretty
    well behaved bunch and don't require as much supervision as some of the
    more contentious echoes. Bv)=

    Yeah, as long as I don't trigger anyone with a rules posting. :D

    I once got into a Greek place when I was in Quebec with my Hoosier Tire
    crew doing an CATcar race at Sanair Super Speedway. The restaurant was
    next door to our hotel. The crew guys wanted pizza - which looked odd
    when brought to the table - lumps of cheese (crumbled feta) and BIG
    slices of tomato. The sausage was from links sliced in coins. I tried a
    small slice and it had a very nice flavour. But I went back to my order
    of moussaka.

    The "baltic" pizzas I had looked like an "italian" pizza but the meats and spices were a little different. That greek one you describe doesn't sound
    bad. Did it seem to have much olive oil in the mix?

    Mike


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sun May 19 05:31:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Bits and pieces of things mostly, covered by the warranty. We think it
    was either a Monday afternoon or Friday morning model, some nice
    features and some "What were they thinking.......?" features. A piece
    of non warranty work is going to be replacing one side--the aluminum
    got creased good by a tree branch in TX.

    OWTCH. It always hurts more when it's self inflicted.

    The repair shop will have some more work to do now. Stopped for gas yesterday in Beckley, WVA at a Sam's Club. To get to the station, had
    to go up a hill, then make a left turn. Steve started turning, camper doesn't swing as wide as the truck so he caught the back end of another pickup truck. From what I understand, relativly light damage to the
    truck but a good scrape along the lower (opposite, go figure) side of
    the camper. Steve said that the cop that checked them out said that
    it's not the first accident there so it sounds like the road needs to
    be redesigned.

    I did one of those "turn too short" deals with my car last year. I did
    the repair on the guy's pickup with a cloth and some cleaner/polish I
    had in the truck. But it co$t mt 1400 bux down the body shop to put the
    Beemer right.

    And that doesn't mean that the mice haven't been eating wires DD>
    throughout the unit - not just on the engine.

    Sound like you're better off without it; I'd hate to think of how much money would have to be sunk into it to make it even basically road
    worthy.

    6 General (my preferred brand) 11R22.5 tires @ U$550/tire
    3 Deep Cycle Marine/RV batteries @ U$250

    Just to get started. That's not a money pit. It's a canyon. Bv)=

    A rather grand one at that.

    We've been cooking indoors for the most part, not done anything major
    so far, even tho brought stuff to do so. We ate out last night with
    some of the Rally folks at a Penn. Dutch place, buffet had a lot of
    good stuff so I just took little bits of maybe half a dozen things plus about the same on the salad bar. Went to the Smucker's store in the afternoon--lots of nothing we needed so went on to the Coblinz
    chocolate place and spent some money there. (G)

    Buffets can be a good thing or a hazard. With the reduction in
    capacity as I age out it's hard to get my "money's worth" at an AYCE place. If
    I eat too much I'm either miserable or so carb-loaded that all I want
    is a soft spot and a nap. Bv0=

    I try to go easy, with second buffet I asked for a piece of strawberry/rhubarb pie--to go. It was good, but not great.

    I noticed they finally put a "Coming Soon" sign on a major construction
    project - which I though from the design was to be a strip mall. Instead
    the sign proclaims "GRAND BUFFET" and opening soon. That sucker is literally
    a city block long. WOW!

    Still, sometimes on a weeked morning I'll hit the Golden Corral's AYCE breakfast and pig out on bacon and some really good cinnamon rolls -
    of course with hash-brown casserole, eggs, sausage gravy. etc. But,
    then I won't eat anything for the rest of the day .... uuually.

    Our Golden Corral closed, building became a ghost kitchen for several
    take out places.

    Our was closed during the pandemic. But they used to time to remodel and fix things up.

    Title: Cinnamon Rolls
    Categories: Breads, Icing, Nuts
    Yield: 12 Rolls

    We got some pastries (was supposed to be just doughnuts) yesterday at
    the end of the rally. Steve brought home a couple of about 12" long, probably close to 6" round creme filled with thick icing (one maple,
    one chocolate) pastries. He also had a couple of probably 8" diameter "snails". I had about 4" of the maple pastry yesteray, about 6" of one section of the snail today, both for breakfast. Others will be consumed over the next couple of days.

    Watch out for sugar shock. Bv)=

    This looks really good but it will feed a crowd ....

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cinnamon Roll Breakfast Casserole
    Categories: Breads, Nuts, Dairy, Eggs
    Yield: 9 servings

    1 tb Butter; for the baking dish
    3 (12.4-oz) tubes refrigerated
    - cinnamon roll dough;
    - w/frosting
    4 lg Eggs
    1/2 c Half & Half
    1/2 ts Ground cinnamon
    1/4 ts Salt
    1/3 c (packed) dark brown sugar
    1/3 c Pecans; chopped
    1/3 c Sour cream

    Set the oven @ 350ºF/175ºC.

    Generously butter a 9" X 13" baking dish. Cut each round
    of cinnamon roll dough into 4 pieces. Reserve the
    frosting packets.

    Whisk together the eggs, half-and-half, cinnamon and
    salt in a large bowl. Add the cinnamon roll dough and
    toss lightly to coat. Pour into the baking dish.

    Mix the brown sugar and pecans in a small bowl.
    Sprinkle on top of the casserole and bake until puffed,
    golden brown and cooked through, about 35 minutes.

    Meanwhile, whisk together the contents of the frosting
    packets and the sour cream in a medium bowl until
    smooth. Let the casserole cool for 10 minutes, then
    drizzle with the frosting.

    Recipe by Ree Drummond

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.thepioneerwoman.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sun May 19 05:58:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Kids like to eat. That's a fact.

    And some of them can really pack away the food. My younger brother was
    one of them--from the time he started eating solid food, he would put
    away enough food to feed a grown man. He has slacked off some over the years but he could probably still eat more than Steve and me combined
    at any meal.

    We had a guy in our informal group who looked like a normal person but
    he must have been hollow. Once, at Lum's, there was an AYCE buffet set
    up and Trapper went for it. Several trips. Finally the owner's father
    came over and told him "Sign says 'All You Care To Eat' not Eat All
    Day!"

    8<----- SHRINK ----->8

    Hollandaise, at least the way I make it, enhances the flavour rather
    than overwhelms it. Certainly it's better than the stuff from the can
    of Golden Age (food service) sauce. Bv)=

    I'd make it myself, most things that come out of food service size cans aren't very tasty.

    It's pretty essy butter, egg yolks and lemon juice and some stirring.

    Some years ago I got into a fuss at a breakfast buffet with their egg mechanic (I refuse to call him a cook) over the Hollandaise with the
    Eggs Benedict .... not to mention that the "poached" eggs were cooked
    to the point that the yolks were "set".

    That's no cook.

    He told me "If you think you can do any better ..." and pointed me to
    the kitchen. I took him up on it and soon found what I needed and was
    just about finished when this female voice asked loudy "What ate you
    doing in my kitchen?!?!?" It was the restaurant manager.

    So I explained how it came to pass. As I took the pan from the hob she
    ran a finger through my sauce and popped it into her mouth. I nearly clocked her one upside the head. That finger was a definite no-no in
    any kitchen I have worked in - for pay or at home.

    Should have offered her a spoon. She should have known better; I'd probably not patronise that place again.

    Didn't get a chance. She was a grumpy agitated (several expletives axed)
    old trout.

    She removed the finger from her mouth and asked "You want a job?"
    Bv)=

    Not working for you, lady. (G)

    Inzactly, I do not suffer that sort of behaviour gladly.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Anti-Crabby Cake
    Categories: Cakes, Desserts, Fruits, Cheese
    Yield: 12 servings

    MMMMM---------------------------CAKE---------------------------------
    20 oz Can crushed pineapple in
    - juice/syrup; udrained
    2 c A-P flour
    1 1/2 c Sugar
    2 lg Wggs
    2 ts Baking soda

    MMMMM-------------------------FROSTING-------------------------------
    8 oz Cream cheese; room temp
    4 oz Unsalted butter; room temp
    2 c Powdered sugar
    1 ts Vanilla
    2 tb Milk

    Set the oven @ 350ºF/175ºC.

    Put all cake ingredients into a large mixing bowl and
    blend by hand to combine. No need to bust out the
    beaters for this one, but you can if you want to!

    Pour mixture into a 9" X 13" glass pan. You do not need
    to grease, flour, spray, etc. Trust me; it comes out
    perfect without!

    Bake 30-40 minutes until just golden and baked through.

    You'll want to frost the cake while still warm, so
    prepare your frosting as your cake bakes. You can frost
    when cooled all the way, too, but it is just easier to
    frost warmer. Simply add your frosting ingredients into
    a large bowl and beat until combined and smooth.

    Spread the frosting on the warm cake right in the pan.
    Let cool, then refrigerate. Serve cold and enjoy!!

    By: Sarah Farrand, Saginaw, MI

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.justapinch.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Mike Powell on Sun May 19 07:05:00 2024
    Mike Powell wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    Well, I am the moderator but it is best to leave those topics for elsewhere.

    Oh, that's right. Sean gave it up due to health issues. We're a pretty
    well behaved bunch and don't require as much supervision as some of the
    more contentious echoes. Bv)=

    Yeah, as long as I don't trigger anyone with a rules posting. :D

    Fortunately he/they is/are twitted on all but once of the BBSes I visit.
    When I see one of the rants I just click the next button

    I once got into a Greek place when I was in Quebec with my Hoosier Tire
    crew doing an CATcar race at Sanair Super Speedway. The restaurant was
    next door to our hotel. The crew guys wanted pizza - which looked odd
    when brought to the table - lumps of cheese (crumbled feta) and BIG
    slices of tomato. The sausage was from links sliced in coins. I tried a small slice and it had a very nice flavour. But I went back to my order
    of moussaka.

    The "baltic" pizzas I had looked like an "italian" pizza but the meats
    and spices were a little different. That greek one you describe
    doesn't sound bad. Did it seem to have much olive oil in the mix?

    Didn't seem to have. It didn't run down my arm when I picked up a piece.
    And didn't drip onto the tablecloth.

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    even need wheels, just a swivel. Bv)=

    This is from my Amiga daze ....

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Progrmmer's Snack Mix
    Categories: Five, Grains, Nuts
    Yield: 10 servings

    1 c Salted (regular) butter
    1 c Brown sugar
    12 oz Box Crispix cereal
    1 1/2 c Coarse chopped pecans

    Set oven @ 325ºF/165ºC.

    Line an extra large baking sheet (or two smaller baking
    sheets) with foil and spray with cooking spray. Or use
    parchment paper and skip the spray.

    Spread cereal and nuts on prepared baking sheets.
    Set aside.

    Mix butter and brown sugar in a saucepan over
    medium-high heat. Boil for two minutes, stirring
    constantly.

    Pour caramel mixture over cereal and nuts; toss to coat.

    Bake for 8 minutes. Remove from oven, stir, and bake for
    an additional 8 minutes.

    Allow to cool, breaking apart any large clumps with a
    wooden spoon or spatula.

    Store in a Tupperware sealable container.

    Note: This is a basic recipe. You can tart it up with
    Worcestershire, different nuts, cayenne or other chile
    powders, etc. And you're not limited to Crispix - Chex
    is permitted. After all it's your snack - suit yourself.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Mon May 20 12:39:48 2024
    Hello Mike,

    Well, I am the moderator but it is best to leave those topics for
    elsewhere.

    Oh, that's right. Sean gave it up due to health issues. We're a pretty
    well behaved bunch and don't require as much supervision as some of the
    more contentious echoes. Bv)=

    Yeah, as long as I don't trigger anyone with a rules posting. :D

    What are Da Rulz?

    Rule #1: There are no Rules.

    Rule #2: See Rule #1.

    Dats Right.
    I am Da Mod.

    Eat your shorts.

    For Life,
    Lee (Da Rulz Guy)

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun May 19 19:34:41 2024
    Hi Dave,

    of non warranty work is going to be replacing one side--the aluminum
    got creased good by a tree branch in TX.

    OWTCH. It always hurts more when it's self inflicted.

    The repair shop will have some more work to do now. Stopped for gas yesterday in Beckley, WVA at a Sam's Club. To get to the station, had
    to go up a hill, then make a left turn. Steve started turning, camper doesn't swing as wide as the truck so he caught the back end of another pickup truck. From what I understand, relativly light damage to the
    truck but a good scrape along the lower (opposite, go figure) side of

    I did one of those "turn too short" deals with my car last year. I did
    the repair on the guy's pickup with a cloth and some cleaner/polish I
    had in the truck. But it co$t mt 1400 bux down the body shop to put
    the Beemer right.

    We're not sure how much this will cost. Steve did notify our insurance
    compaany but this is the second claim within a year so our rates will
    probably go up. Last time to the TX incident when a claim was made was December, 2016 and don't remember what before that.


    Sound like you're better off without it; I'd hate to think of how much money would have to be sunk into it to make it even basically road
    worthy.

    6 General (my preferred brand) 11R22.5 tires @ U$550/tire
    3 Deep Cycle Marine/RV batteries @ U$250

    Just to get started. That's not a money pit. It's a canyon. Bv)=

    A rather grand one at that.

    Quite so, you might be better off buying a new or a newer used if you
    really want to hhit the road.


    We've been cooking indoors for the most part, not done anything major
    so far, even tho brought stuff to do so. We ate out last night with
    some of the Rally folks at a Penn. Dutch place, buffet had a lot of
    good stuff so I just took little bits of maybe half a dozen things plus about the same on the salad bar. Went to the Smucker's store in the afternoon--lots of nothing we needed so went on to the Coblinz
    chocolate place and spent some money there. (G)

    Buffets can be a good thing or a hazard. With the reduction in
    capacity as I age out it's hard to get my "money's worth" at an AYCE place. If
    I eat too much I'm either miserable or so carb-loaded that all I want
    is a soft spot and a nap. Bv0=

    I try to go easy, with second buffet I asked for a piece of strawberry/rhubarb pie--to go. It was good, but not great.

    I noticed they finally put a "Coming Soon" sign on a major
    construction project - which I though from the design was to be a
    strip mall. Instead the sign proclaims "GRAND BUFFET" and opening
    soon. That sucker is literally a city block long. WOW!

    That is going to be a tough one to keep going. People will initially
    check it out but probably not want to frequent it very often, unless
    they don't cook for themselves. I could see my late brother taking
    advantage of it if he were living, and in that area.


    Still, sometimes on a weeked morning I'll hit the Golden Corral's AYCE breakfast and pig out on bacon and some really good cinnamon rolls -
    of course with hash-brown casserole, eggs, sausage gravy. etc. But,
    then I won't eat anything for the rest of the day .... uuually.

    Our Golden Corral closed, building became a ghost kitchen for several
    take out places.

    Our was closed during the pandemic. But they used to time to remodel
    and fix things up.

    We have one or two in Raleigh but haven't visited them. We liked them
    (and Western Sizzler) before they went to the buffet. Now the latter is,
    AFAIK, closed down completly, latter is dying fast.

    Title: Cinnamon Rolls
    Categories: Breads, Icing, Nuts
    Yield: 12 Rolls

    We got some pastries (was supposed to be just doughnuts) yesterday at
    the end of the rally. Steve brought home a couple of about 12" long, probably close to 6" round creme filled with thick icing (one maple,
    one chocolate) pastries. He also had a couple of probably 8" diameter "snails". I had about 4" of the maple pastry yesteray, about 6" of one section of the snail today, both for breakfast. Others will be consumed over the next couple of days.

    Watch out for sugar shock. Bv)=

    I had just under half of the chocolate one for breakfast today. Been
    trying to push protein at other meals to counteract the carbs.


    This looks really good but it will feed a crowd ....

    Title: Cinnamon Roll Breakfast Casserole
    Categories: Breads, Nuts, Dairy, Eggs
    Yield: 9 servings

    Probably last longer than 9 servings if I made it for Steve and me. I'd probably cut the recipe in half or maybe quarters so we wouldn't be
    eating it for a week. (G)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun May 19 19:47:48 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Kids like to eat. That's a fact.

    And some of them can really pack away the food. My younger brother was
    one of them--from the time he started eating solid food, he would put
    away enough food to feed a grown man. He has slacked off some over the years but he could probably still eat more than Steve and me combined
    at any meal.

    We had a guy in our informal group who looked like a normal person but
    he must have been hollow. Once, at Lum's, there was an AYCE buffet set
    up and Trapper went for it. Several trips. Finally the owner's father
    came over and told him "Sign says 'All You Care To Eat' not Eat All
    Day!"

    Makes you wonder where he stowed it all. I used to get salad type stuff
    on one trip, then go back for entree and finish off with a small dessert
    plate. At the buffets we just went to, I combined the salad and entree
    trip, still ended up with probably half of what I used to get. Dessert
    was much smaller also.


    Some years ago I got into a fuss at a breakfast buffet with their egg mechanic (I refuse to call him a cook) over the Hollandaise with the
    Eggs Benedict .... not to mention that the "poached" eggs were cooked
    to the point that the yolks were "set".

    That's no cook.

    He told me "If you think you can do any better ..." and pointed me to
    the kitchen. I took him up on it and soon found what I needed and was
    just about finished when this female voice asked loudy "What ate you
    doing in my kitchen?!?!?" It was the restaurant manager.

    So I explained how it came to pass. As I took the pan from the hob she
    ran a finger through my sauce and popped it into her mouth. I nearly clocked her one upside the head. That finger was a definite no-no in
    any kitchen I have worked in - for pay or at home.

    Should have offered her a spoon. She should have known better; I'd probably not patronise that place again.

    Didn't get a chance. She was a grumpy agitated (several expletives
    axed) old trout.

    IOW, you wouldn't have liked cooking in an environment like that
    anyways.

    She removed the finger from her mouth and asked "You want a job?"
    Bv)=

    Not working for you, lady. (G)

    Inzactly, I do not suffer that sort of behaviour gladly.

    I don't either.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Tue May 21 05:23:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I did one of those "turn too short" deals with my car last year. I did
    the repair on the guy's pickup with a cloth and some cleaner/polish I
    had in the truck. But it co$t mt 1400 bux down the body shop to put
    the Beemer right.

    We're not sure how much this will cost. Steve did notify our insurance compaany but this is the second claim within a year so our rates will probably go up. Last time to the TX incident when a claim was made was December, 2016 and don't remember what before that.

    Insurance companies use a formula concocted by their bean coun ters to determine that. They'll know what each of your claims cost them and once
    the ratio of outgo to income hits a certain point will raise your cost
    to insure or invite you toseek coverage elsewhere.

    Sound like you're better off without it; I'd hate to think of how much money would have to be sunk into it to make it even basically road
    worthy.

    6 General (my preferred brand) 11R22.5 tires @ U$550/tire
    3 Deep Cycle Marine/RV batteries @ U$250

    Just to get started. That's not a money pit. It's a canyon. Bv)=

    A rather grand one at that.

    Quite so, you might be better off buying a new or a newer used if you really want to hhit the road.

    I'm not much on RV camping. If I were a NASCAR or jockstrap sports fan
    and travelled to out-of-town events I'd consider a motorhome or a nice Fifth-wheel tow along. But, as it is, motels or staying w/friends is my
    method. Or I could go back to my youth with a backpack and a bedroll &
    using my thumb for travel.


    Buffets can be a good thing or a hazard. With the reduction in
    capacity as I age out it's hard to get my "money's worth" at an AYCE place. If I eat too much I'm either miserable or so carb-loaded
    that all I want is a soft spot and a nap. Bv0=

    I try to go easy, with second buffet I asked for a piece of strawberry/rhubarb pie--to go. It was good, but not great.

    I noticed they finally put a "Coming Soon" sign on a major
    construction project - which I though from the design was to be a
    strip mall. Instead the sign proclaims "GRAND BUFFET" and opening
    soon. That sucker is literally a city block long. WOW!

    That is going to be a tough one to keep going. People will initially
    check it out but probably not want to frequent it very often, unless
    they don't cook for themselves. I could see my late brother taking advantage of it if he were living, and in that area.

    There is a sizable Chinese buffet a few bloks up the street from this
    new place which does a good business. And has senior price breaks. I
    sometimes have lunch with friends there (couple times per year) but I
    don't get carried away lest I get "carried away". Bv)=

    Still, sometimes on a weeked mnorning I'll hit the Golden Corral's AYCE breakfast and pig out on bacon and some really good cinnamon rolls -
    of course with hash-brown casserole, eggs, sausage gravy. etc. But,
    then I won't eat anything for the rest of the day .... uuually.

    Our Golden Corral closed, building became a ghost kitchen for several
    take out places.

    Our was closed during the pandemic. But they used to time to remodel
    and fix things up.

    We have one or two in Raleigh but haven't visited them. We liked them
    (and Western Sizzler) before they went to the buffet. Now the latter
    is, AFAIK, closed down completly, latter is dying fast.

    I miss the Western Sizzlin we used to have here. I think the owner(s) took retirement and sold the franchise - because it went downhill abruptly. It
    (the building) was several other "concepts" before being razed and a drive through car wash established.

    I couldn't eat, these days, what used to be my favourite order - the
    "Trucker's Cut" sirloin.

    8<----- CLIP ----->8

    This looks really good but it will feed a crowd ....

    Title: Cinnamon Roll Breakfast Casserole
    Categories: Breads, Nuts, Dairy, Eggs
    Yield: 9 servings

    Probably last longer than 9 servings if I made it for Steve and me. I'd probably cut the recipe in half or maybe quarters so we wouldn't be
    eating it for a week. (G)

    Or make it for one of yur churchy functions.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Church Potluck Jello Salad
    Categories: Cheese, Nuts, Dairy, Candy, Fruits
    Yield: 7 Servings

    3 oz Box lime jello
    3 oz Box lemon jello
    2 c Boiling water
    6 oz Cream cheese
    1 lb Small curd cottage cheese
    1 c Mayonnaise(not Miracle Wimp)
    14 oz Can Eagle Brand condensed
    - milk
    15 oz Can crushed pineapple
    1 c Chopped walnuts
    10 oz Bag Kraft mini marshmallows

    Dissolve both boxes jello with boiling water.

    Add remaining ingredients, mixing well after each
    addition. Put into mold or other container and chill
    for several hours until completely set.

    Serves: 6 - 8

    RECIPE FROM: Helen E. Moore's recipe box

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue May 21 11:41:46 2024
    Hi Dave,

    the repair on the guy's pickup with a cloth and some cleaner/polish I
    had in the truck. But it co$t mt 1400 bux down the body shop to put
    the Beemer right.

    We're not sure how much this will cost. Steve did notify our insurance compaany but this is the second claim within a year so our rates will probably go up. Last time to the TX incident when a claim was made was December, 2016 and don't remember what before that.

    Insurance companies use a formula concocted by their bean coun ters to determine that. They'll know what each of your claims cost them and
    once the ratio of outgo to income hits a certain point will raise your cost to insure or invite you toseek coverage elsewhere.

    We bundle our homeowner's insurance with the vehicle insurance, got a
    better rate with this company when we took out our morgage. They tried switching us to another company once, without notifying us and at a
    higher rate--Steve called them and got them to restore the original plan
    and rate.


    6 General (my preferred brand) 11R22.5 tires @ U$550/tire
    3 Deep Cycle Marine/RV batteries @ U$250

    Just to get started. That's not a money pit. It's a canyon. Bv)=

    A rather grand one at that.

    Quite so, you might be better off buying a new or a newer used if you really want to hhit the road.

    I'm not much on RV camping. If I were a NASCAR or jockstrap sports fan
    and travelled to out-of-town events I'd consider a motorhome or a nice Fifth-wheel tow along. But, as it is, motels or staying w/friends is
    my method. Or I could go back to my youth with a backpack and a
    bedroll & using my thumb for travel.

    We have a tow behind but it's not a 5th wheel. This one has no slide
    out; the R-Pod did.


    I noticed they finally put a "Coming Soon" sign on a major
    construction project - which I though from the design was to be a
    strip mall. Instead the sign proclaims "GRAND BUFFET" and opening
    soon. That sucker is literally a city block long. WOW!

    That is going to be a tough one to keep going. People will initially
    check it out but probably not want to frequent it very often, unless
    they don't cook for themselves. I could see my late brother taking advantage of it if he were living, and in that area.

    There is a sizable Chinese buffet a few bloks up the street from this
    new place which does a good business. And has senior price breaks. I sometimes have lunch with friends there (couple times per year) but I don't get carried away lest I get "carried away". Bv)=

    I've been to some good sized Chinese buffets; my MIL likes them. But, as
    with a "regular" buffet, I try to eat reasonably. When we did our first
    cruise, we discovered the top deck buffet so had most of our breakfasts
    and lunches up there, have continued the pattern (but doing just about
    all breakfasts and lunches) with subsequent cruises. There's a lot to
    choose from but I always make a reasonable plate so I can afford to
    enjoy a dessert. I can see where people would gain weight on cruises
    with all the food offered but I've never done so.


    Still, sometimes on a weeked mnorning I'll hit the Golden Corral's AYCE then I won't eat anything for the rest of the day .... uuually.

    Our Golden Corral closed, building became a ghost kitchen for several
    take out places.

    Our was closed during the pandemic. But they used to time to remodel
    and fix things up.

    We have one or two in Raleigh but haven't visited them. We liked them
    (and Western Sizzler) before they went to the buffet. Now the latter
    is, AFAIK, closed down completly, latter is dying fast.

    I miss the Western Sizzlin we used to have here. I think the owner(s)
    took retirement and sold the franchise - because it went downhill abruptly. It (the building) was several other "concepts" before being razed and a drive through car wash established.

    There was one in Sierra Vista, AZ when we were stationed at Fort
    Huachuca but don't recall (from subsequent visits to town) if it's still
    going or not. There was one in Jacksonville, NC when we first got
    married that we visited a number of times. First time after we got
    married, the manager took our ticket & paid for our meal--sweet.

    I couldn't eat, these days, what used to be my favourite order - the "Trucker's Cut" sirloin.

    If I get a larger cut, I'll eat half and bring the other half home
    (usually with half a baked potato) for another meal.

    This looks really good but it will feed a crowd ....

    Title: Cinnamon Roll Breakfast Casserole
    Categories: Breads, Nuts, Dairy, Eggs
    Yield: 9 servings

    Probably last longer than 9 servings if I made it for Steve and me. I'd probably cut the recipe in half or maybe quarters so we wouldn't be
    eating it for a week. (G)

    Or make it for one of yur churchy functions.

    We had a taco salad bar this past Sunday. Hadn't expected to be home for
    it but were, since we cut the trip short. Nice to be able to catch up
    with a lot of folks in one meal time.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Thu May 23 07:06:54 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    the repair on the guy's pickup with a cloth and some cleaner/polish I
    had in the truck. But it co$t mt 1400 bux down the body shop to put
    the Beemer right.

    We're not sure how much this will cost. Steve did notify our insurance compaany but this is the second claim within a year so our rates will probably go up. Last time to the TX incident when a claim was made was December, 2016 and don't remember what before that.

    Insurance companies use a formula concocted by their bean coun ters to determine that. They'll know what each of your claims cost them and
    once the ratio of outgo to income hits a certain point will raise your cost to insure or invite you toseek coverage elsewhere.

    We bundle our homeowner's insurance with the vehicle insurance, got a better rate with this company when we took out our morgage. They tried switching us to another company once, without notifying us and at a
    higher rate--Steve called them and got them to restore the original
    plan and rate.

    I bundle my home owner's and vehicle insurance, too.

    I'm not much on RV camping. If I were a NASCAR or jockstrap sports fan
    and travelled to out-of-town events I'd consider a motorhome or a nice Fifth-wheel tow along. But, as it is, motels or staying w/friends is
    my method. Or I could go back to my youth with a backpack and a
    bedroll & using my thumb for travel.

    We have a tow behind but it's not a 5th wheel. This one has no slide
    out; the R-Pod did.

    My take on those slide-outs is the same as my take on sun roofs in cars.
    There ae two kinds. Those that leak. And thos that are going to leak.

    I noticed they finally put a "Coming Soon" sign on a major
    construction project - which I though from the design was to be a
    strip mall. Instead the sign proclaims "GRAND BUFFET" and opening
    soon. That sucker is literally a city block long. WOW!

    That is going to be a tough one to keep going. People will initially
    check it out but probably not want to frequent it very often, unless
    they don't cook for themselves. I could see my late brother taking advantage of it if he were living, and in that area.

    There is a sizable Chinese buffet a few bloks up the street from this
    new place which does a good business. And has senior price breaks. I sometimes have lunch with friends there (couple times per year) but I don't get carried away lest I get "carried away". Bv)=

    I've been to some good sized Chinese buffets; my MIL likes them. But,
    as with a "regular" buffet, I try to eat reasonably. When we did our
    first cruise, we discovered the top deck buffet so had most of our breakfasts and lunches up there, have continued the pattern (but doing just about all breakfasts and lunches) with subsequent cruises. There's
    a lot to choose from but I always make a reasonable plate so I can
    afford to enjoy a dessert. I can see where people would gain weight on cruises with all the food offered but I've never done so.

    Maybe it's a part of getting nearer to my century (18 more years) but I'm pretty much down to 2 meals per day. Breakfast (eggs, meat, taters, toast)
    and either a late lunch or early supper. My pants have loosened up to the point that I'm glad I use suspenders rather than a belt.

    8<----- GONE ----->8

    This looks really good but it will feed a crowd ....

    Title: Cinnamon Roll Breakfast Casserole
    Categories: Breads, Nuts, Dairy, Eggs
    Yield: 9 servings

    Probably last longer than 9 servings if I made it for Steve and me. I'd probably cut the recipe in half or maybe quarters so we wouldn't be
    eating it for a week. (G)

    Or make it for one of yur churchy functions.

    We had a taco salad bar this past Sunday. Hadn't expected to be home
    for it but were, since we cut the trip short. Nice to be able to catch
    up with a lot of folks in one meal time.

    That's what my Sunday breakfasts are for. We pick a different venue
    each week. Used to do a weekly lunch too but so many former attendees
    have fallen off their twigs that it's down to just me and one other
    guy ... and we almost lost him a bit ago. Until his son, who is retired
    from a career as a cardiac nurse flew in for a visit and straightened
    Les' doctor out on a few things. Les is doing *much* better these days.
    Better enough the Charlie went back home to Boston.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Boston Bluefish Casserole
    Categories: Seafood, Pasta, Dairy, Cheese, Breads
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 1/2 lb Boston Bluefish (pollock)
    - filets; or other fish
    1/4 lb Dry noodles
    3 c Whole milk
    2 tb Butter
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/4 ts Pepper
    1/4 ts Paprika
    2 tb Flour
    4 oz Cheese; grated
    1/2 ts Worcestershire sauce
    1 tb Lemon juice
    2 c Soft bread crumbs

    Thaw fish. Cook in salted water 15 minutes. Drain and
    flake. Cook noodles until tender. Drain.

    Make white sauce, using half the cheese, lemon juice,
    and Worcestershire. Combine with flaked fish and the
    drained noodles. Pour into a 9" X 11" X 2 1/2" pan.
    Combine remaining cheese and bread crumbs. Sprinkle over
    top. Bake in a slow oven (325ºF/163ºC) for 1 hour.

    Serve with a crisp salad and French bread or marinated
    vegetables and crusty rolls.

    Serves 6

    RECIPE FROM: The Taste of Gloucester; A Fisherman's Wife
    Cooks - Written and complied by The Fishermen's Wives of
    Gloucester & The Cape Ann League of Women Voters

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu May 23 12:26:22 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Insurance companies use a formula concocted by their bean coun ters to determine that. They'll know what each of your claims cost them and
    once the ratio of outgo to income hits a certain point will raise your cost to insure or invite you toseek coverage elsewhere.

    We bundle our homeowner's insurance with the vehicle insurance, got a better rate with this company when we took out our morgage. They tried switching us to another company once, without notifying us and at a
    higher rate--Steve called them and got them to restore the original
    plan and rate.

    I bundle my home owner's and vehicle insurance, too.

    Gives you a better rate on both that way. When we bought the house, the raltor's office dealt with this company for mortgage insurance. We
    checked it out for the car, cheaper than what we had and switched.
    They've worked well for us the past (almost) 10 years.


    I'm not much on RV camping. If I were a NASCAR or jockstrap sports fan
    and travelled to out-of-town events I'd consider a motorhome or a nice Fifth-wheel tow along. But, as it is, motels or staying w/friends is

    We have a tow behind but it's not a 5th wheel. This one has no slide
    out; the R-Pod did.

    My take on those slide-outs is the same as my take on sun roofs in
    cars. There ae two kinds. Those that leak. And thos that are going to leak.

    We had a bit of leak trouble with the slide out, but not much and easily
    fixed. The latest "incident" happened on what would have been the slide
    out side, glad we don't have one on this camper or damage would have
    been a lot worse.


    There is a sizable Chinese buffet a few bloks up the street from this
    new place which does a good business. And has senior price breaks. I sometimes have lunch with friends there (couple times per year) but I don't get carried away lest I get "carried away". Bv)=

    I've been to some good sized Chinese buffets; my MIL likes them. But,
    as with a "regular" buffet, I try to eat reasonably. When we did our
    first cruise, we discovered the top deck buffet so had most of our breakfasts and lunches up there, have continued the pattern (but doing just about all breakfasts and lunches) with subsequent cruises. There's
    a lot to choose from but I always make a reasonable plate so I can
    afford to enjoy a dessert. I can see where people would gain weight on cruises with all the food offered but I've never done so.

    Maybe it's a part of getting nearer to my century (18 more years) but
    I'm pretty much down to 2 meals per day. Breakfast (eggs, meat,
    taters, toast) and either a late lunch or early supper. My pants have loosened up to the point that I'm glad I use suspenders rather than a belt.

    I usually go for light breakfast and lunch, a bit more (but not a huge
    meal) for supper. Talked to my MIL yesterday for her birthday; Steve's
    brother took her out for Chinese. (G)

    8<----- GONE ----->8

    This looks really good but it will feed a crowd ....

    Title: Cinnamon Roll Breakfast Casserole
    Categories: Breads, Nuts, Dairy, Eggs
    Yield: 9 servings

    Probably last longer than 9 servings if I made it for Steve and me. I'd probably cut the recipe in half or maybe quarters so we wouldn't be
    eating it for a week. (G)

    Or make it for one of yur churchy functions.

    We had a taco salad bar this past Sunday. Hadn't expected to be home
    for it but were, since we cut the trip short. Nice to be able to catch
    up with a lot of folks in one meal time.

    That's what my Sunday breakfasts are for. We pick a different venue
    each week. Used to do a weekly lunch too but so many former attendees
    have fallen off their twigs that it's down to just me and one other
    guy ... and we almost lost him a bit ago. Until his son, who is
    retired from a career as a cardiac nurse flew in for a visit and straightened
    Les' doctor out on a few things. Les is doing *much* better these
    days. Better enough the Charlie went back home to Boston.

    Having a nurse in the family is good; Steve's younger sister is one.

    At church we're doing a quarterly lunch as well as pastries and suchlike
    before each service. The staff calls it "Breakfast in the Basement" but
    it's more like a continental than a full on breakfast.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat May 25 06:38:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    We bundle our homeowner's insurance with the vehicle insurance, got a better rate with this company when we took out our morgage. They tried switching us to another company once, without notifying us and at a
    higher rate--Steve called them and got them to restore the original
    plan and rate.

    I bundle my home owner's and vehicle insurance, too.

    Gives you a better rate on both that way. When we bought the house, the raltor's office dealt with this company for mortgage insurance. We
    checked it out for the car, cheaper than what we had and switched.
    They've worked well for us the past (almost) 10 years.

    I got fired by Erie Insurance last year for an unknown (to both me and
    and my agent) reason. So, scroom. I'm thinking of going back to local
    company, Pekin Insurance. I left them for Erie when I bought the Chevy
    HHR and they wanted an obscene amount of money to insure it. They're
    much more reasonable on my Beemer and the house.

    8<----- OUT ----->8

    Maybe it's a part of getting nearer to my century (18 more years)
    but I'm pretty much down to 2 meals per day. Breakfast (eggs, meat, taters, toast) and either a late lunch or early supper. My pants
    have loosened up to the point that I'm glad I use suspenders rather
    than a belt.

    I usually go for light breakfast and lunch, a bit more (but not a
    huge meal) for supper. Talked to my MIL yesterday for her birthday; Steve's brother took her out for Chinese. (G)

    I'm down on both frequency and amounts. Hence the need for galluses.

    BTW - I recommend Healthy Choice frozen steamers when you don't feel
    like cooking. They come in various sizes and were recommended to mr by
    a registered dietician at my doctor's office. I had the Sweet & Sour
    Chicken made with "riced" cauliflower for supper last night. Nice and
    not overly filling.

    8<----- GONE ----->8

    That's what my Sunday breakfasts are for. We pick a different venue
    each week. Used to do a weekly lunch too but so many former attendees
    have fallen off their twigs that it's down to just me and one other
    guy ... and we almost lost him a bit ago. Until his son, who is
    retired from a career as a cardiac nurse flew in for a visit and straightened Les' doctor out on a few things. Les is doing *much*
    better these days. Better enough the Charlie went back home to Boston.

    Having a nurse in the family is good; Steve's younger sister is one.

    My favourite boss went into that field. She's now catching babies at a
    local hospital's labour & delivery department. I texted her to let her
    know that the main reason she left AutoZone had quit to seek greener
    pastures.

    At church we're doing a quarterly lunch as well as pastries and
    suchlike before each service. The staff calls it "Breakfast in the Basement" but it's more like a continental than a full on breakfast.

    When I was churching food/meals were for after services. There was quite
    the spread every Sunday in the parish hall.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Quarter-Hour Sweet-n-Sour
    Categories: Poultry, Rice, Vegetables
    Yield: 4 Servings

    2 tb Vegetable oil
    10 oz Frozen chicken breast chunks
    - breaded
    16 oz Frozen vegetable mixture;
    - broccoli, red peppers,
    - bamboo shoots, mushrooms
    2 c Cooked rice
    1/2 c Sweet & sour sauce
    1/2 ts Salt

    Cook chicken in hot oil in large skillet over med-high
    heat 5 to 7 minutes, turning once. Remove from pan;
    drain on paper towels.

    Stir in vegetables and cook 2 to 3 minutes. Stir in
    rice, chicken, sauce, and salt.

    Cook until thoroughly heated, about 2 to 3 minutes.

    Source: Rice the Timely Ingredient

    Reprinted with permission from The USA Rice Council

    Electronic format courtesy of Karen Mintzias

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat May 25 15:21:02 2024
    Hi Dave,

    switching us to another company once, without notifying us and at a
    higher rate--Steve called them and got them to restore the original
    plan and rate.

    I bundle my home owner's and vehicle insurance, too.

    Gives you a better rate on both that way. When we bought the house, the realtor's office dealt with this company for mortgage insurance. We checked it out for the car, cheaper than what we had and switched.
    They've worked well for us the past (almost) 10 years.

    I got fired by Erie Insurance last year for an unknown (to both me and
    and my agent) reason. So, scroom. I'm thinking of going back to local company, Pekin Insurance. I left them for Erie when I bought the Chevy
    HHR and they wanted an obscene amount of money to insure it. They're
    much more reasonable on my Beemer and the house.

    We've had a number of different carriers over the years and moves. Steve
    had Allstate when we first got married; the agent was in a Sears store.
    Had to go with a German company while we were over there and have had
    others. Had renter's insurance for many years, finally got homeowner's insurance 10 years ago when we bought the house.


    Maybe it's a part of getting nearer to my century (18 more years)
    but I'm pretty much down to 2 meals per day. Breakfast (eggs, meat, taters, toast) and either a late lunch or early supper. My pants
    have loosened up to the point that I'm glad I use suspenders rather
    than a belt.

    I usually go for light breakfast and lunch, a bit more (but not a
    huge meal) for supper. Talked to my MIL yesterday for her birthday; Steve's brother took her out for Chinese. (G)

    I'm down on both frequency and amounts. Hence the need for galluses.

    Whatever works to hold them up. Steve tried suspenders for a bit but
    went back to belts--just didn't feel comfortable with the braces.


    BTW - I recommend Healthy Choice frozen steamers when you don't feel
    like cooking. They come in various sizes and were recommended to mr by
    a registered dietician at my doctor's office. I had the Sweet & Sour Chicken made with "riced" cauliflower for supper last night. Nice and
    not overly filling.

    Have to take a look at them and see what's in them. Usually we've got
    enough stuff on hand that if I don't feel like cooking, a meal can be
    assembled with bits and pieces of this and that.

    8<----- GONE ----->8

    That's what my Sunday breakfasts are for. We pick a different venue
    each week. Used to do a weekly lunch too but so many former attendees
    have fallen off their twigs that it's down to just me and one other
    guy ... and we almost lost him a bit ago. Until his son, who is
    retired from a career as a cardiac nurse flew in for a visit and straightened Les' doctor out on a few things. Les is doing *much*
    better these days. Better enough the Charlie went back home to Boston.

    Having a nurse in the family is good; Steve's younger sister is one.

    My favourite boss went into that field. She's now catching babies at a local hospital's labour & delivery department. I texted her to let her know that the main reason she left AutoZone had quit to seek greener pastures.

    One of my friends worked in labor and delivery for years. A couple of
    years ago she switched departments but I think she wants to go back to
    labor and delivery--something about seeing a new life come into the world...............

    At church we're doing a quarterly lunch as well as pastries and RH>
    suchlike before each service. The staff calls it "Breakfast in the RH>
    Basement" but it's more like a continental than a full on breakfast.

    When I was churching food/meals were for after services. There was
    quite the spread every Sunday in the parish hall.

    The church I attended growing up had a coffee hour after service
    starting about the time I went to college. My parents usually didn't
    stay for it except when I'd come home so I could catch up with people.
    After I got married, they pretty much stopped going to church at all.
    Various churches we've been members of, in various places, have had
    various food related get togethers. In HI we shared the building with a Philippino congregation so every so often Steve and I met with them--and
    would be invited to join them for lunch afterward. Got to try some
    interesting dishes but one thing Steve found he didn't
    like--bittermelon. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Mon May 27 05:59:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I got fired by Erie Insurance last year for an unknown (to both me and
    and my agent) reason. So, scroom. I'm thinking of going back to local company, Pekin Insurance. I left them for Erie when I bought the Chevy
    HHR and they wanted an obscene amount of money to insure it. They're
    much more reasonable on my Beemer and the house.

    We've had a number of different carriers over the years and moves.
    Steve had Allstate when we first got married; the agent was in a Sears store. Had to go with a German company while we were over there and
    have had others. Had renter's insurance for many years, finally got homeowner's insurance 10 years ago when we bought the house.

    As have I. Never had renter's insurance, though.

    Maybe it's a part of getting nearer to my century (18 more years)
    but I'm pretty much down to 2 meals per day. Breakfast (eggs, meat, taters, toast) and either a late lunch or early supper. My pants
    have loosened up to the point that I'm glad I use suspenders rather
    than a belt.

    I usually go for light breakfast and lunch, a bit more (but not a
    huge meal) for supper. Talked to my MIL yesterday for her birthday; Steve's brother took her out for Chinese. (G)

    I'm down on both frequency and amounts. Hence the need for galluses.

    Whatever works to hold them up. Steve tried suspenders for a bit but
    went back to belts--just didn't feel comfortable with the braces.

    They're not for everyone. I still have some belts - but it's been years (literally) since one has been around my waist.

    BTW - I recommend Healthy Choice frozen steamers when you don't feel
    like cooking. They come in various sizes and were recommended to mr by
    a registered dietician at my doctor's office. I had the Sweet & Sour Chicken made with "riced" cauliflower for supper last night. Nice and
    not overly filling.

    Have to take a look at them and see what's in them. Usually we've got enough stuff on hand that if I don't feel like cooking, a meal can be assembled with bits and pieces of this and that.

    One of my favourites (which I first picked up by mistake) is Chicken
    Linguini With Red Pepper Alfredo. Here's the ingredients:

    Cooked Pasta, Water, Enriched Wheat Flour: (Durum Wheat Semolina, Niacin' Ferrous Sulfate {Iron}, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid)
    Soybean Oil, Egg White, Broccoli, Cooked Chicken: (Chicken Breast, Water,
    Olive Oil),

    Contains 2% or Less of: Isolated Soy Protein Product: (Isolated Soy
    Protein, Modified Potato Starch, Corn Starch, Carrageenan, Soy Lecithin), Dextrose,, Potassium Chloride, Salt, Sodium Phosphates. Flavoring
    Water,

    Red Bell Peppers & Puree: (Red Bell Peppers, Sugar, Salt), Parmesan Cheese (Part Skim Milk, Cheese Culture, Salt, Enzymes)

    Contains 2% or Less of: Modified Corn Starch, Soybean Oil, Nonfat Dry Milk
    Red Pepper Sauce, Salt, Flavorings, Xanthan Gum, Guar Gum, Distilled Vinegar Red Pepper, Salt

    That's quite a list. But I don't see any no-no stuff like HFCS, etc in there. And it is tasty. Bv)=

    8<----- GONE ----->8

    That's what my Sunday breakfasts are for. We pick a different venue
    each week. Used to do a weekly lunch too but so many former attendees
    have fallen off their twigs that it's down to just me and one other
    guy ... and we almost lost him a bit ago. Until his son, who is
    retired from a career as a cardiac nurse flew in for a visit and straightened Les' doctor out on a few things. Les is doing *much*
    better these days. Better enough the Charlie went back home to Boston.

    Having a nurse in the family is good; Steve's younger sister is one.

    My favourite boss went into that field. She's now catching babies at a local hospital's labour & delivery department. I texted her to let her know that the main reason she left AutoZone had quit to seek greener pastures.

    One of my friends worked in labor and delivery for years. A couple of years ago she switched departments but I think she wants to go back to labor and delivery--something about seeing a new life come into the world...............

    I don't think Misty will come back to AZ.

    At church we're doing a quarterly lunch as well as pastries and RH>
    suchlike before each service. The staff calls it "Breakfast in the RH>
    Basement" but it's more like a continental than a full on breakfast.

    When I was churching food/meals were for after services. There was
    quite the spread every Sunday in the parish hall.

    The church I attended growing up had a coffee hour after service
    starting about the time I went to college. My parents usually didn't
    stay for it except when I'd come home so I could catch up with people. After I got married, they pretty much stopped going to church at all. Various churches we've been members of, in various places, have had various food related get togethers. In HI we shared the building with a Philippino congregation so every so often Steve and I met with
    them--and would be invited to join them for lunch afterward. Got to try some interesting dishes but one thing Steve found he didn't like--bittermelon. (G)

    Never, to my knowledge, had bitter melon. I assume it lives up to its
    name.

    My favourite melon is muskmelon. At least once a week I nip in to
    Humphrey's for a half pound of chicken livers and a container of
    pre-cut muskmelon to take home and make into lunch.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Iris' Fried Chicken Livers
    Categories: Poultry, Dairy, Breads, Chilies
    Yield: 2 Servings

    1 lb Chcken livers
    1 1/2 c Buttermilk; divided
    1 c All purpose flour
    1 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Cayenne pepper
    2 1/2 c Saltine cracker crumbs; fine
    - ground
    Oil for frying
    2 lg Eggs; beaten

    Soak chicken livers in 1/2 cup buttermilk for 1 hour.
    drain and rinse. Season with salt and pepper.

    In large plastic Ziploc bag, mix flour, salt, pepper,
    and cayenne. Put livers in bag and shake to coat.

    Mix eggs with 1 cup of buttermilk, put saltines in
    separate bag. Dip floured liver in eggs and then coat
    liver in saltine bag. coat and dredge all livers.

    In large skillet, heat oil, on medium heat. Cook livers
    for 5 minutes. turning once. drain on paper towels serve
    hot.

    By Iris NcCall

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.justapinch.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon May 27 13:37:59 2024
    Hi Dave,

    We've had a number of different carriers over the years and moves.
    Steve had Allstate when we first got married; the agent was in a Sears store. Had to go with a German company while we were over there and
    have had others. Had renter's insurance for many years, finally got homeowner's insurance 10 years ago when we bought the house.

    As have I. Never had renter's insurance, though.

    We have a number of higher value things we'd like to have insured. Had
    to make a claim on it when we had the break in back in 2013 but they
    didn't pay what the jewelery was worth as a number of the older pieces
    hadn't been appraised.


    Whatever works to hold them up. Steve tried suspenders for a bit but
    went back to belts--just didn't feel comfortable with the braces.

    They're not for everyone. I still have some belts - but it's been
    years (literally) since one has been around my waist.

    I wear one quite often--if the pants have belt loops, it's a "must".


    BTW - I recommend Healthy Choice frozen steamers when you don't feel
    like cooking. They come in various sizes and were recommended to mr by
    a registered dietician at my doctor's office. I had the Sweet & Sour Chicken made with "riced" cauliflower for supper last night. Nice and
    not overly filling.

    Have to take a look at them and see what's in them. Usually we've got enough stuff on hand that if I don't feel like cooking, a meal can be assembled with bits and pieces of this and that.

    One of my favourites (which I first picked up by mistake) is Chicken Linguini With Red Pepper Alfredo. Here's the ingredients:

    Contains 2% or Less of: Modified Corn Starch, Soybean Oil, Nonfat Dry
    Milk Red Pepper Sauce, Salt, Flavorings, Xanthan Gum, Guar Gum,
    Distilled Vinegar Red Pepper, Salt

    That's quite a list. But I don't see any no-no stuff like HFCS, etc in there. And it is tasty. Bv)=

    Have to see what Steve thinks of it. Generally tho, I have enough odds
    and ends of stuff in the freezer, fridge and pantry that a no fuss meal
    is easy to put together. I always have eggs on hand, both raw and
    steamed; bread; fresh and/or frozen vegetables............... a lot can
    be done with a bit of this and that.


    My favourite boss went into that field. She's now catching babies at a local hospital's labour & delivery department. I texted her to let her know that the main reason she left AutoZone had quit to seek greener pastures.

    One of my friends worked in labor and delivery for years. A couple of years ago she switched departments but I think she wants to go back to labor and delivery--something about seeing a new life come into the world...............

    I don't think Misty will come back to AZ.

    Sigh! Small chance of seeing her now probably.


    At church we're doing a quarterly lunch as well as pastries and RH>
    suchlike before each service. The staff calls it "Breakfast in the RH>
    Basement" but it's more like a continental than a full on breakfast.

    When I was churching food/meals were for after services. There was
    quite the spread every Sunday in the parish hall.

    The church I attended growing up had a coffee hour after service
    starting about the time I went to college. My parents usually didn't
    stay for it except when I'd come home so I could catch up with people. After I got married, they pretty much stopped going to church at all. Various churches we've been members of, in various places, have had various food related get togethers. In HI we shared the building with a Philippino congregation so every so often Steve and I met with
    them--and would be invited to join them for lunch afterward. Got to try some interesting dishes but one thing Steve found he didn't like--bittermelon. (G)

    Never, to my knowledge, had bitter melon. I assume it lives up to its name.

    Very much so. When we were over there, saw an ad for the local grocery store--guy looking all over the produce section. Finally stocker boy
    asks if he can help, guy says "my wife sent me to buy bitter melon, how
    can you tell if a melon is bitter? Stocker takes him over to proper
    display and says something on the order of "bittermelon, not bitter
    melon". I like it in small amounts but, like cilatro, it reaches a
    certain point and I've had enough, even tho some might still be in
    whatever I'm eating.


    My favourite melon is muskmelon. At least once a week I nip in to Humphrey's for a half pound of chicken livers and a container of


    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon May 27 13:52:48 2024
    Hi Dave,

    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<

    pre-cut muskmelon to take home and make into lunch.

    OTOH, we'll buy the whole melon and cut it up ourselves.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Wed May 29 07:42:34 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    As have I. Never had renter's insurance, though.

    We have a number of higher value things we'd like to have insured. Had
    to make a claim on it when we had the break in back in 2013 but they didn't pay what the jewelery was worth as a number of the older pieces hadn't been appraised.

    Never had a break-in. (touches wood) But currently if someone intrudes
    on my home the 3 pooches (including a pit bull mix who is *very*
    territorial) would shred their hindquarters for them.

    Whatever works to hold them up. Steve tried suspenders for a bit but
    went back to belts--just didn't feel comfortable with the braces.

    They're not for everyone. I still have some belts - but it's been
    years (literally) since one has been around my waist.

    I wear one quite often--if the pants have belt loops, it's a "must".

    Personal choice.

    BTW - I recommend Healthy Choice frozen steamers when you don't feel
    like cooking. They come in various sizes and were recommended to mr by
    a registered dietician at my doctor's office. I had the Sweet & Sour Chicken made with "riced" cauliflower for supper last night. Nice and
    not overly filling.

    Have to take a look at them and see what's in them. Usually we've got enough stuff on hand that if I don't feel like cooking, a meal can be assembled with bits and pieces of this and that.

    One of my favourites (which I first picked up by mistake) is Chicken Linguini With Red Pepper Alfredo. Here's the ingredients:

    Contains 2% or Less of: Modified Corn Starch, Soybean Oil, Nonfat Dry
    Milk Red Pepper Sauce, Salt, Flavorings, Xanthan Gum, Guar Gum,
    Distilled Vinegar Red Pepper, Salt

    That's quite a list. But I don't see any no-no stuff like HFCS, etc in there. And it is tasty. Bv)=

    Have to see what Steve thinks of it. Generally tho, I have enough odds
    and ends of stuff in the freezer, fridge and pantry that a no fuss meal
    is easy to put together. I always have eggs on hand, both raw and
    steamed; bread; fresh and/or frozen vegetables............... a lot can
    be done with a bit of this and that.

    It's a matter of convenience. If I'm banging recipes into the Meal Muncher,
    or otherwise occupied I can toss a Healthy Choice into the nuker for six minutes - et voila' - supper. And Jasper or Izzy (K9 dishwashers) will pre
    wash the dish.

    My favourite boss went into that field. She's now catching babies at a local hospital's labour & delivery department. I texted her to let her know that the main reason she left AutoZone had quit to seek greener pastures.

    One of my friends worked in labor and delivery for years. A couple of years ago she switched departments but I think she wants to go back to labor and delivery--something about seeing a new life come into the world...............

    I don't think Misty will come back to AZ.

    Sigh! Small chance of seeing her now probably.

    I keep her updated on the goings-on at the Zone. One of her favourite
    District Managers has returned to this area to replace a manager she
    didn't care much for.

    Too bad she's married (to a nice guy). I once told her that if I were
    even 30years younger and she wasn't already taken .......

    8<----- YOU KNOW ----->8

    Never, to my knowledge, had bitter melon. I assume it lives up to its name.

    Very much so. When we were over there, saw an ad for the local grocery store--guy looking all over the produce section. Finally stocker boy
    asks if he can help, guy says "my wife sent me to buy bitter melon, how can you tell if a melon is bitter? Stocker takes him over to proper display and says something on the order of "bittermelon, not bitter melon". I like it in small amounts but, like cilatro, it reaches a
    certain point and I've had enough, even tho some might still be in whatever I'm eating.

    I'll take your word for it.

    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

    After I bang in a recipe:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Bitter Melon Soup w/Pork Bones
    Categories: Pork, Grains, Fruits, Herbs
    Yield: 6 servingd

    2 oz Pearl barley; soaked
    1 1/2 lb Meaty pork bones
    3 Dried red dates
    8 c Water
    4 sl Ginger; 1" long X 1/8" thick
    12 oz Bittermelon (1 lg melon)
    Salt
    MSG; opt

    Soak the pearl barley for at least 2 hours or overnight.
    Drain and set aside. Also soak the pork bones in cold
    water for 1-2 hours to purge them of impurities,
    changing the water once halfway through.

    Rinse the pork bones clean, using your hands to scrub
    them of any impurities and bone spurs. Transfer to a
    deep stock pot with just enough water to submerge them.
    Bring to a boil, and boil for 1 minute. Remove from the
    heat, rinse the pork bones clean, discard the water, and
    rinse the soup pot clean.

    Add the pork bones back to the stock pot, along with
    soaked barley, dates, 8 cups water and the ginger
    slices. Set over high heat, and bring to a boil. Once
    boiling, immediately turn the heat down to medium low,
    cover, and simmer for 2 hours.

    While the soup is simmering, slice the bitter melon in
    half lengthwise. Use a spoon to scoop out the seeds and
    scrape away all of the white pith, which can be
    particularly bitter. Cut each half into large chunks.
    Set aside.

    After 2 hours of simmering, skim the fat off the surface
    of the soup. Add the bitter melon, cover, and simmer for
    another 30 minutes. Add salt to taste before serving
    (you can also add MSG for extra oomph if desired—this is
    completely optional!). Serve with light soy sauce to dip
    the tender pork ribs into.

    RECIPE FROM: https://thewoksoflife.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Wed May 29 07:44:17 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<

    pre-cut muskmelon to take home and make into lunch.

    OTOH, we'll buy the whole melon and cut it up ourselves.

    As do I sometimes. But I'm more likely to just slice it down the middle,
    scoop out the seeds and attack one half with a spoon until there is
    nothing left but the rind.

    Or fill the seed cavity with a mound of chicken salad - then proceed
    as above.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cantaloupe w/Chicken Salad
    Categories: Poultry, Fruits, Vegetables, Nuts
    Yield: 6 Servings

    3 Cantaloupes; halved seeded

    MMMMM--------------------------CHICKEN-------------------------------
    2 c Cubed cooked chicken
    1 1/2 c To 2 C Fresh blueberries
    1/2 c Sliced almonds
    1 c Sliced celery
    1 c Seedless green grapes;
    - halved

    MMMMM--------------------------DRESSING-------------------------------
    1/2 c Mayonnaise
    1/4 c Sour cream
    1 tb Fresh lemon juice
    1 1/2 ts Grated lemon peel
    1 1/2 ts Sugar
    1/2 ts Ground ginger
    1/4 ts Salt (opt)

    In a large bowl, combine chicken, blueberries, celery,
    grapes and almonds.

    In a small bowl, mix dressing ingredients. Pour over the
    chicken mixture and toss gently.

    Spoon into cantaloupe halves.

    Serves 6

    SOURCE: Country Magazine; June/July 1994

    POSTED BY: Jim Bodle 5/94

    Recipe from: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed May 29 20:14:36 2024
    Hi Dave,


    As have I. Never had renter's insurance, though.

    We have a number of higher value things we'd like to have insured. Had
    to make a claim on it when we had the break in back in 2013 but they didn't pay what the jewelery was worth as a number of the older pieces hadn't been appraised.

    Never had a break-in. (touches wood) But currently if someone intrudes
    on my home the 3 pooches (including a pit bull mix who is *very* territorial) would shred their hindquarters for them.

    We blame it on the local post office--we'd put in a mail hold; they
    claim they never got it due to a computer glitch. We went away and a
    package was left at the front door, mail jammed into the box, all
    advertising nobody home. Lost a couple of family heirloom pieces plus
    some one of a kind pieces from Israel and a lot of inexpensive stuff.


    BTW - I recommend Healthy Choice frozen steamers when you don't feel
    like cooking. They come in various sizes and were recommended to mr by
    a registered dietician at my doctor's office. I had the Sweet & Sour Chicken made with "riced" cauliflower for supper last night. Nice and
    not overly filling.

    Have to take a look at them and see what's in them. Usually we've got enough stuff on hand that if I don't feel like cooking, a meal can be assembled with bits and pieces of this and that.

    One of my favourites (which I first picked up by mistake) is Chicken Linguini With Red Pepper Alfredo. Here's the ingredients:

    Contains 2% or Less of: Modified Corn Starch, Soybean Oil, Nonfat Dry
    Milk Red Pepper Sauce, Salt, Flavorings, Xanthan Gum, Guar Gum,
    Distilled Vinegar Red Pepper, Salt

    That's quite a list. But I don't see any no-no stuff like HFCS, etc in there. And it is tasty. Bv)=

    Have to see what Steve thinks of it. Generally tho, I have enough odds
    and ends of stuff in the freezer, fridge and pantry that a no fuss meal
    is easy to put together. I always have eggs on hand, both raw and
    steamed; bread; fresh and/or frozen vegetables............... a lot can
    be done with a bit of this and that.

    It's a matter of convenience. If I'm banging recipes into the Meal Muncher, or otherwise occupied I can toss a Healthy Choice into the
    nuker for six minutes - et voila' - supper. And Jasper or Izzy (K9 dishwashers) will pre wash the dish.

    Between the 2 of us, usually someone is available to do a quick meal. If
    we're out, sometimes we'll swing by and get take out from any one of
    several favorite places instead.


    Sigh! Small chance of seeing her now probably.

    I keep her updated on the goings-on at the Zone. One of her favourite District Managers has returned to this area to replace a manager she didn't care much for.

    Too bad she's married (to a nice guy). I once told her that if I were
    even 30years younger and she wasn't already taken .......

    Sigh! (G)

    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

    After I bang in a recipe:


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Gone crazy, be back later. leave a message at the Beep!

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed May 29 20:22:33 2024
    Hi Dave,


    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<

    pre-cut muskmelon to take home and make into lunch.

    OTOH, we'll buy the whole melon and cut it up ourselves.

    As do I sometimes. But I'm more likely to just slice it down the
    middle, scoop out the seeds and attack one half with a spoon until
    there is
    nothing left but the rind.

    Or fill the seed cavity with a mound of chicken salad - then proceed
    as above.

    My dad used to tell us about how he would fill the cavity with vanilla
    ice cream when he was young. I understand he did some of the family
    cooking in his teen years when his mom had serious health issues. Melon
    and ice cream would be filling enough for me but his dad (and he, during
    the summer) worked in a lumber yard so would have needed more than that
    to sustain them for the hard work.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri May 31 06:02:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Never had a break-in. (touches wood) But currently if someone intrudes
    on my home the 3 pooches (including a pit bull mix who is *very* territorial) would shred their hindquarters for them.

    We blame it on the local post office--we'd put in a mail hold; they
    claim they never got it due to a computer glitch. We went away and a package was left at the front door, mail jammed into the box, all advertising nobody home. Lost a couple of family heirloom pieces plus
    some one of a kind pieces from Israel and a lot of inexpensive stuff.

    The computer is a handy whipping boy. My situation is that if I'm gone,
    Dennis is here. If he's gone, I'm here. If my brother is off spending
    time at the camp ground he has me pick up his mail and rat hole it until
    he and Vicky get home.

    BTW - I recommend

    8<----- CLIP ----->8

    Have to see what Steve thinks of it. Generally tho, I have enough odds
    and ends of stuff in the freezer, fridge and pantry that a no fuss meal
    is easy to put together. I always have eggs on hand, both raw and
    steamed; bread; fresh and/or frozen vegetables............... a lot can
    be done with a bit of this and that.

    It's a matter of convenience. If I'm banging recipes into the Meal Muncher, or otherwise occupied I can toss a Healthy Choice into the
    nuker for six minutes - et voila' - supper. And Jasper or Izzy (K9 dishwashers) will pre wash the dish.

    Between the 2 of us, usually someone is available to do a quick meal.
    If we're out, sometimes we'll swing by and get take out from any one of several favorite places instead.

    I also keep instant oatmeal on hand. I can make a quick lunch or supper
    with that, too.

    Sigh! Small chance of seeing her now probably.

    I keep her updated on the goings-on at the Zone. One of her favourite District Managers has returned to this area to replace a manager she didn't care much for.

    Too bad she's married (to a nice guy). I once told her that if I were
    even 30years younger and she wasn't already taken .......

    Sigh! (G)

    Too bad for me, not for her. When she had he latest son, Titus, and he
    was near his second Xmas I had come across some gigantic plush teddy
    bears (4 feet tall) so I gave one to Misty to give to the lad. I ran
    across her and her sons (two in Jr High/High school) when Titus was (I
    think) 5. We chatted for a while then went on our appointed rounds.
    Titus asked his Mom "Who was that dude?" When she said "That's the guy
    who gave you the big bear." He turned to his big brothers and declaimed
    "See, I told you there was really a Santa Claus". I got around the corner
    and into anther aisle before I lost it.

    This is good any time not just Holiday season. Warmed, it's like drinking
    a slice of apple pie. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Christmas Cider
    Categories: Beverages, Fruits, Citrus
    Yield: 16 Servings

    3 c Water
    4 Black chai tea bags *
    8 c Apple cider or apple juice
    2 c Low-calorie cranberry juice
    1/2 c Orange juice
    4 (3") sticks cinnamon
    3 Whole cloves
    Cinnamon sticks and/or fresh
    - cranberries (optional)

    * To keep the cider from looking cloudy, be sure to
    purchase chai tea bags that do not contain milk solids.

    In a medium saucepan, bring the water to boiling. Remove
    from heat. Add tea bags. Cover and let steep for 5
    minutes. Discard tea bags.

    In a 6 to 8 quart Dutch oven, combine apple cider,
    cranberry juice, orange juice, the 4 cinnamon sticks, the
    cloves, and the steeped tea. Bring to boiling; reduce
    heat. Cover and simmer for 20 minutes. Discard cinnamon
    sticks and cloves. Serve warm.

    If desired, garnish with additional cinnamon sticks and/or
    cranberries.

    Makes 16 (6-ounce) servings.

    Make-Ahead Directions: Prepare cider as directed; cool.
    Transfer to an airtight container; cover. Chill for up to
    3 days. Serve chilled, or transfer to a large Dutch oven
    and heat through.

    Calories 68, Total Fat (g) 0, Saturated Fat (g) 0,
    Cholesterol (mg) 0, Sodium (mg) 6, Carbohydrate (g) 17,
    Fiber (g) 0, Protein (g) 0

    Diabetic Exchanges Fruit (d.e.) 1

    From: http://www.diabeticconnect.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri May 31 13:55:30 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Never had a break-in. (touches wood) But currently if someone intrudes
    on my home the 3 pooches (including a pit bull mix who is *very* territorial) would shred their hindquarters for them.

    We blame it on the local post office--we'd put in a mail hold; they
    claim they never got it due to a computer glitch. We went away and a package was left at the front door, mail jammed into the box, all advertising nobody home. Lost a couple of family heirloom pieces plus
    some one of a kind pieces from Israel and a lot of inexpensive stuff.

    The computer is a handy whipping boy. My situation is that if I'm
    gone, Dennis is here. If he's gone, I'm here. If my brother is off spending
    time at the camp ground he has me pick up his mail and rat hole it
    until he and Vicky get home.

    We have a bigger, locking mail box now. We also let the post office know
    we're going to be gone, our carrier (different route from rental house)
    also knows to hold if he sees how we "set" the box before leaving town.


    BTW - I recommend

    8<----- CLIP ----->8

    Have to see what Steve thinks of it. Generally tho, I have enough odds
    and ends of stuff in the freezer, fridge and pantry that a no fuss meal
    is easy to put together. I always have eggs on hand, both raw and
    steamed; bread; fresh and/or frozen vegetables............... a lot can
    be done with a bit of this and that.

    It's a matter of convenience. If I'm banging recipes into the Meal Muncher, or otherwise occupied I can toss a Healthy Choice into the
    nuker for six minutes - et voila' - supper. And Jasper or Izzy (K9 dishwashers) will pre wash the dish.

    Between the 2 of us, usually someone is available to do a quick meal.
    If we're out, sometimes we'll swing by and get take out from any one of several favorite places instead.

    I also keep instant oatmeal on hand. I can make a quick lunch or
    supper with that, too.

    We have some of that on hand also. Steve has several tins of sardines he
    can grab, plus we've got various canned soups and other "quick grabs" in
    the pantry.


    Too bad for me, not for her. When she had he latest son, Titus, and he
    was near his second Xmas I had come across some gigantic plush teddy
    bears (4 feet tall) so I gave one to Misty to give to the lad. I ran across her and her sons (two in Jr High/High school) when Titus was (I think) 5. We chatted for a while then went on our appointed rounds.
    Titus asked his Mom "Who was that dude?" When she said "That's the guy
    who gave you the big bear." He turned to his big brothers and
    declaimed "See, I told you there was really a Santa Claus". I got
    around the corner and into anther aisle before I lost it.

    I would have too. (G) Back when we were in Germany, Deborah won a teddy
    bear about that size at a carnival. Years later she was cleaning her
    house, came across the bear and her then 18 month old son claimed it.
    She sent a picture of him looking at the bear; they were both about the
    same height, cute!


    This is good any time not just Holiday season. Warmed, it's like
    drinking a slice of apple pie. Bv)=


    Title: Christmas Cider
    Categories: Beverages, Fruits, Citrus
    Yield: 16 Servings

    It does look good! Have to remember it for fall; we're moving into hot
    weather now.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... One of these days, I'll quit procrastinating.

    --- PPoint 3.01
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Jun 2 04:55:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Hi Dave,


    Never had a break-in. (touches wood) But currently if someone intrudes
    on my home the 3 pooches (including a pit bull mix who is *very* territorial) would shred their hindquarters for them.

    We blame it on the local post office--we'd put in a mail hold; they
    claim they never got it due to a computer glitch. We went away and a package was left at the front door, mail jammed into the box, all advertising nobody home. Lost a couple of family heirloom pieces plus
    some one of a kind pieces from Israel and a lot of inexpensive stuff.

    The computer is a handy whipping boy. My situation is that if I'm
    gone, Dennis is here. If he's gone, I'm here. If my brother is off spendingthe camp ground he has me pick up his mail and rat hole it
    time at until he and Vicky get home.

    We have a bigger, locking mail box now. We also let the post office
    know we're going to be gone, our carrier (different route from rental house) also knows to hold if he sees how we "set" the box before
    leaving town.

    I can remember when we had either a mail box attached to the siding
    near the front door. Or a mail slot with "flapper" in the door itself. Mailboxes were for R.F.D.

    And the in-town letter carrier walked the route.

    BTW - I recommend

    8<----- CLIP ----->8

    Have to see what Steve thinks of it. Generally tho, I have enough odds
    and ends of stuff in the freezer, fridge and pantry that a no fuss meal
    is easy to put together. I always have eggs on hand, both raw and
    steamed; bread; fresh and/or frozen vegetables............... a lot can
    be done with a bit of this and that.

    It's a matter of convenience. If I'm banging recipes into the Meal Muncher, or otherwise occupied I can toss a Healthy Choice into the
    nuker for six minutes - et voila' - supper. And Jasper or Izzy (K9 dishwashers) will pre wash the dish.

    Between the 2 of us, usually someone is available to do a quick meal.
    If we're out, sometimes we'll swing by and get take out from any one of several favorite places instead.

    I also keep instant oatmeal on hand. I can make a quick lunch or
    supper with that, too.

    We have some of that on hand also. Steve has several tins of sardines
    he can grab, plus we've got various canned soups and other "quick
    grabs" in the pantry.

    I did that last night. I grabbed a can of Campbells and saw that it was
    their new-ish Cream of Mushroom with Chicken. So I got a can of chicken
    chunks that I had scored o a deep discount and a 4 oz can of mushroom
    stems & pieces. Used the liquid from the chicken and the 'shroms for my "thinner" and had a very tasty, filling supper.

    Too bad for me, not for her. When she had he latest son, Titus, and he
    was near his second Xmas I had come across some gigantic plush teddy
    bears (4 feet tall) so I gave one to Misty to give to the lad. I ran across her and her sons (two in Jr High/High school) when Titus was (I think) 5. We chatted for a while then went on our appointed rounds.
    Titus asked his Mom "Who was that dude?" When she said "That's the guy
    who gave you the big bear." He turned to his big brothers and
    declaimed "See, I told you there was really a Santa Claus". I got
    around the corner and into anther aisle before I lost it.

    I would have too. (G) Back when we were in Germany, Deborah won a teddy bear about that size at a carnival. Years later she was cleaning her house, came across the bear and her then 18 month old son claimed it.
    She sent a picture of him looking at the bear; they were both about the same height, cute!

    This is good any time not just Holiday season. Warmed, it's like
    drinking a slice of apple pie. Bv)=

    Title: Christmas Cider
    Categories: Beverages, Fruits, Citrus
    Yield: 16 Servings

    It does look good! Have to remember it for fall; we're moving into
    hot weather now.

    Weather here has been odd. We're in June and have had on day the reached
    90 Fahrenheits. Temps have been in the mid 80s (max) but mostly in the 70s

    The house is on a slab so retro-fitting central air would be a MAJOR
    project. We make do with wndow units. And I'v only run the one in my
    bedroo once. In the computer room, nt at all.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cantaloupe Cooler
    Categories: Five, Fruits, Citrus, Dairy, Beverages
    Yield: 1 servings

    1 c Cantaloupe; in cubes
    1/2 c Vanilla yoghurt
    1/4 ts Lemon juice
    1 pk NutraSweet
    ds Cinnamon

    Combine all ingredients in a blender and blend until
    smooth.

    Yield: 1 serving

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.diabetesselfmanagement.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Jun 2 19:42:39 2024
    Hi Dave,


    The computer is a handy whipping boy. My situation is that if I'm
    gone, Dennis is here. If he's gone, I'm here. If my brother is off spendingthe camp ground he has me pick up his mail and rat hole it
    time at until he and Vicky get home.

    We have a bigger, locking mail box now. We also let the post office
    know we're going to be gone, our carrier (different route from rental house) also knows to hold if he sees how we "set" the box before
    leaving town.

    I can remember when we had either a mail box attached to the siding

    We had one of those when we were stationed at Fort Devens, MA.


    near the front door. Or a mail slot with "flapper" in the door itself.

    Been in places that had that but they weren't in use as a central box
    had superseeded it.

    Mailboxes were for R.F.D.

    Have had that a number of places also.

    And the in-town letter carrier walked the route.

    Yes, I remember them as well. My parents had a box at the post office in
    town for decades, changed to a box and delivery their last maybe 5
    years. I think the rent on the box had gone up to the point where Dad
    thought it was unreasonable, delivery was free.


    Between the 2 of us, usually someone is available to do a quick meal.
    If we're out, sometimes we'll swing by and get take out from any one of several favorite places instead.

    I also keep instant oatmeal on hand. I can make a quick lunch or
    supper with that, too.

    We have some of that on hand also. Steve has several tins of sardines
    he can grab, plus we've got various canned soups and other "quick
    grabs" in the pantry.

    I did that last night. I grabbed a can of Campbells and saw that it
    was their new-ish Cream of Mushroom with Chicken. So I got a can of chicken chunks that I had scored o a deep discount and a 4 oz can of mushroom
    stems & pieces. Used the liquid from the chicken and the 'shroms for
    my "thinner" and had a very tasty, filling supper.

    Sounds good--serve it over toast, rice, noodles or whatever. Also add
    canned or frozen veggie like peas, corn or green beans.

    This is good any time not just Holiday season. Warmed, it's like
    drinking a slice of apple pie. Bv)=

    Title: Christmas Cider
    Categories: Beverages, Fruits, Citrus
    Yield: 16 Servings

    It does look good! Have to remember it for fall; we're moving into
    hot weather now.

    Weather here has been odd. We're in June and have had on day the
    reached 90 Fahrenheits. Temps have been in the mid 80s (max) but
    mostly in the 70s

    The house is on a slab so retro-fitting central air would be a MAJOR project. We make do with wndow units. And I'v only run the one in my bedroo once. In the computer room, nt at all.

    We have central air but it's pretty much a "given" in anything built in
    this part of the country. When we first got married, we lived down on
    the coast; the apartment had no a/c. Moved to an older house and a
    friend gave us a couple of window units, took them when we moved to a
    small double wide mobile home. Left them there when Steve went into the
    Army and we started moving all over the place.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... 90% of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at.

    --- PPoint 3.01
    * Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)
  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jun 4 06:24:01 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    The computer is a handy whipping boy. My situation is that if I'm
    gone, Dennis is here. If he's gone, I'm here. If my brother is off spendingthe camp ground he has me pick up his mail and rat hole it
    time at until he and Vicky get home.

    We have a bigger, locking mail box now. We also let the post office
    know we're going to be gone, our carrier (different route from rental house) also knows to hold if he sees how we "set" the box before
    leaving town.

    That's handy. I've only met one of my postal delivery people. We have a
    range - sometimes the mail is in the box by 10 ayem. Other times it's
    almost twilight time. I met the lady who delivers early (mid morning)
    when the letter carriers were having a food drive and I had a couple of
    Hy-Vee bags full of staple items like boxed dinners, etc. which I didn't
    want to leave out by the street next to my mail box. So, I watched for
    the USPS Jeep and handed over the merch directly to her.

    I can remember when we had either a mail box attached to the siding

    We had one of those when we were stationed at Fort Devens, MA.

    near the front door. Or a mail slot with "flapper" in the door itself.

    Been in places that had that but they weren't in use as a central box
    had superseeded it.

    Only "central" mail station I ever had was when I lived in the Tin Can at Trailer Trash Acres.

    Mailboxes were for R.F.D.

    Have had that a number of places also.

    And the in-town letter carrier walked the route.

    Yes, I remember them as well. My parents had a box at the post office
    in town for decades, changed to a box and delivery their last maybe 5 years. I think the rent on the box had gone up to the point where Dad thought it was unreasonable, delivery was free.

    When I was younger I rented a P.O. Box at the main downtown ost office.
    for U$12/year. It was handy for getting mail I didn't want anyone of my
    nears & dears to see. Or didn't want some anonymous company to know my
    physical address.

    Between the 2 of us, usually someone is available to do a quick meal.
    If we're out, sometimes we'll swing by and get take out from any one of several favorite places instead.

    I also keep instant oatmeal on hand. I can make a quick lunch or
    supper with that, too.

    We have some of that on hand also. Steve has several tins of sardines
    he can grab, plus we've got various canned soups and other "quick
    grabs" in the pantry.

    I did that last night. I grabbed a can of Campbells and saw that it
    was their new-ish Cream of Mushroom with Chicken. So I got a can of chicken chunks that I had scored on a deep discount and a 4 oz can of mushroom stems & pieces. Used the liquid from the chicken and the
    'shroms for my "thinner" and had a very tasty, filling supper.

    Sounds good--serve it over toast, rice, noodles or whatever. Also add canned or frozen veggie like peas, corn or green beans.

    It was good as was. I just ate it as a soup/stew and was satiated.

    This is good any time not just Holiday season. Warmed, it's like
    drinking a slice of apple pie. Bv)=

    Title: Christmas Cider
    Categories: Beverages, Fruits, Citrus
    Yield: 16 Servings

    It does look good! Have to remember it for fall; we're moving into
    hot weather now.

    Weather here has been odd. We're in June and have had on day the
    reached 90 Fahrenheits. Temps have been in the mid 80s (max) but
    mostly in the 70s

    The house is on a slab so retro-fitting central air would be a MAJOR project. We make do with wndow units. And I've only run the one in my bedroo once. In the computer room, nt at all.

    We have central air but it's pretty much a "given" in anything built in this part of the country. When we first got married, we lived down on
    the coast; the apartment had no a/c. Moved to an older house and a
    friend gave us a couple of window units, took them when we moved to a small double wide mobile home. Left them there when Steve went into the Army and we started moving all over the place.

    I already have me "dream" home (if I hit the lottery) planned. Build my ultimate kitchen - then hang the rest of the "living" spaces off of that.
    Solar panels on the roof and a windmill generator in the yard. Than the
    thermal conditionig by heat pump.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dave's Quick S.O.S.
    Categories: Five, Beef, Soups
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb Ground Beef
    10 3/4 oz Can condensed cream of
    - mushroom soup
    Salt & pepper *
    1 sm Onion; diced (opt)
    8 oz Pasta; cooked (opt)

    * easy on the salt. Most canned mushroom soup is already
    plenty salty.

    Cook the ground beef in a skillet or heavy bottom sauce
    pan until pink disappears, stirring fairly constantly to
    break up lumps, etc. DO NOT DRAIN.

    Add can of mushroom soup, salt, pepper and onion (if
    using) and stir to combine. Continue to cook, stirring
    to mix until bubbly.

    Serve immediately over bread, toast or pasta.

    Serve four with a side of veggies.

    From the kitchen at Chez Dirty

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Jun 4 12:15:13 2024
    Hi Dave,


    We have a bigger, locking mail box now. We also let the post office
    know we're going to be gone, our carrier (different route from rental house) also knows to hold if he sees how we "set" the box before
    leaving town.

    That's handy. I've only met one of my postal delivery people. We have
    a range - sometimes the mail is in the box by 10 ayem. Other times
    it's
    almost twilight time. I met the lady who delivers early (mid morning)

    Ours is usually late afternoon into early evening. Sometimes one of us
    (usually Steve) is outside when he comes around, stops to talk for a
    minute or two. We're near the end of the route.

    when the letter carriers were having a food drive and I had a couple
    of Hy-Vee bags full of staple items like boxed dinners, etc. which I didn't want to leave out by the street next to my mail box. So, I
    watched for
    the USPS Jeep and handed over the merch directly to her.

    Smart, we missed that this year as we were out of town.

    Been in places that had that but they weren't in use as a central box
    had superseeded it.

    Only "central" mail station I ever had was when I lived in the Tin Can
    at Trailer Trash Acres.

    Military housing had it in a lot of places, also the apartment complex
    in CA and trailer park in San Angelo, TX.


    Mailboxes were for R.F.D.

    Have had that a number of places also.

    And the in-town letter carrier walked the route.

    Yes, I remember them as well. My parents had a box at the post office
    in town for decades, changed to a box and delivery their last maybe 5 years. I think the rent on the box had gone up to the point where Dad thought it was unreasonable, delivery was free.

    When I was younger I rented a P.O. Box at the main downtown ost
    office. for U$12/year. It was handy for getting mail I didn't want
    anyone of my nears & dears to see. Or didn't want some anonymous
    company to know my
    physical address.

    That goes right into the recycle bag or shredder for us.


    Between the 2 of us, usually someone is available to do a quick meal.
    If we're out, sometimes we'll swing by and get take out from any one of several favorite places instead.

    I also keep instant oatmeal on hand. I can make a quick lunch or
    supper with that, too.

    We have some of that on hand also. Steve has several tins of sardines
    he can grab, plus we've got various canned soups and other "quick
    grabs" in the pantry.

    I did that last night. I grabbed a can of Campbells and saw that it
    was their new-ish Cream of Mushroom with Chicken. So I got a can of chicken chunks that I had scored on a deep discount and a 4 oz can of mushroom stems & pieces. Used the liquid from the chicken and the
    'shroms for my "thinner" and had a very tasty, filling supper.

    Sounds good--serve it over toast, rice, noodles or whatever. Also add canned or frozen veggie like peas, corn or green beans.

    It was good as was. I just ate it as a soup/stew and was satiated.

    T'was just an idea for another way to serve it.

    This is good any time not just Holiday season. Warmed, it's like
    drinking a slice of apple pie. Bv)=

    Title: Christmas Cider
    Categories: Beverages, Fruits, Citrus
    Yield: 16 Servings

    It does look good! Have to remember it for fall; we're moving into
    hot weather now.

    Weather here has been odd. We're in June and have had on day the
    reached 90 Fahrenheits. Temps have been in the mid 80s (max) but
    mostly in the 70s

    The house is on a slab so retro-fitting central air would be a MAJOR project. We make do with wndow units. And I've only run the one in my bedroo once. In the computer room, nt at all.

    We have central air but it's pretty much a "given" in anything built in this part of the country. When we first got married, we lived down on
    the coast; the apartment had no a/c. Moved to an older house and a
    friend gave us a couple of window units, took them when we moved to a small double wide mobile home. Left them there when Steve went into the Army and we started moving all over the place.

    I already have me "dream" home (if I hit the lottery) planned. Build
    my ultimate kitchen - then hang the rest of the "living" spaces off of that. Solar panels on the roof and a windmill generator in the yard.
    Than the thermal conditionig by heat pump.

    We'd probably bump out the back wall, make the kitchen and 2 "bedrooms" (computer room and sewingstudio) bigger.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jun 6 06:21:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    When I was younger I rented a P.O. Box at the main downtown ost
    office. for U$12/year. It was handy for getting mail I didn't want
    anyone of my nears & dears to see. Or didn't want some anonymous
    company to know my> physical address.

    That goes right into the recycle bag or shredder for us.

    I shred anything with my name on it. The rest goes into the recycle
    pile with the old news (as if) papers and magazines.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    I did that last night. I grabbed a can of Campbells and saw that it
    was their new-ish Cream of Mushroom with Chicken. So I got a can of chicken chunks that I had scored on a deep discount and a 4 oz can of mushroom stems & pieces. Used the liquid from the chicken and the
    'shroms for my "thinner" and had a very tasty, filling supper.

    Sounds good--serve it over toast, rice, noodles or whatever. Also add canned or frozen veggie like peas, corn or green beans.

    It was good as was. I just ate it as a soup/stew and was satiated.

    T'was just an idea for another way to serve it.

    I get enough carbs from the main dish Bv)=

    8<----- AGAIN ----->8

    I already have me "dream" home (if I hit the lottery) planned. Build
    my ultimate kitchen - then hang the rest of the "living" spaces off of that. Solar panels on the roof and a windmill generator in the yard.
    Than the thermal conditionig by heat pump.

    We'd probably bump out the back wall, make the kitchen and 2 "bedrooms" (computer room and sewingstudio) bigger.

    And I'd move to a less "busy" street. Fortunately my little crib is well insulated so I don't hear most of the traffic - except emergency vehicles
    on "angry" mode (lights & siren) or chirrun with their hot-rods pressing
    hard on the loud pedal - and inviting those lights and sirens to set off
    in pursuit. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Snap, Crackle & Pop Crunchies
    Categories: Five, Chocolate, Grains, Snacks
    Yield: 12 Servings

    2 1/2 c Rice Krispies cereal
    8 oz Chocolate
    2 tb Light corn syrup
    Cupcake liners

    Pour some water into a pan until it is about an inch
    deep and bring it to a boil. Break the chocolate into
    pieces and put into a heatproof bowl. Put this into the
    pan until the chocolate has melted. Stir the syrup into
    the melted chocolate and add the cereal.

    Spoon into cupcake liners and leave to set.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Jun 6 11:48:49 2024
    Hi Dave,


    When I was younger I rented a P.O. Box at the main downtown ost
    office. for U$12/year. It was handy for getting mail I didn't want
    anyone of my nears & dears to see. Or didn't want some anonymous
    company to know my> physical address.

    That goes right into the recycle bag or shredder for us.

    I shred anything with my name on it. The rest goes into the recycle
    pile with the old news (as if) papers and magazines.

    If it's sent with our name but obvious junk, it goes into recycle. If
    it's got any sort of ID number, it gets shredded.


    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    I did that last night. I grabbed a can of Campbells and saw that it
    was their new-ish Cream of Mushroom with Chicken. So I got a can of chicken chunks that I had scored on a deep discount and a 4 oz can of mushroom stems & pieces. Used the liquid from the chicken and the
    'shroms for my "thinner" and had a very tasty, filling supper.

    Sounds good--serve it over toast, rice, noodles or whatever. Also add canned or frozen veggie like peas, corn or green beans.

    It was good as was. I just ate it as a soup/stew and was satiated.

    T'was just an idea for another way to serve it.

    I get enough carbs from the main dish Bv)=

    I'll have to suggest it to a friend who's a scout leader.


    8<----- AGAIN ----->8

    I already have me "dream" home (if I hit the lottery) planned. Build
    my ultimate kitchen - then hang the rest of the "living" spaces off of that. Solar panels on the roof and a windmill generator in the yard.
    Than the thermal conditionig by heat pump.

    We'd probably bump out the back wall, make the kitchen and 2 "bedrooms" (computer room and sewingstudio) bigger.

    And I'd move to a less "busy" street. Fortunately my little crib is
    well insulated so I don't hear most of the traffic - except emergency vehicles on "angry" mode (lights & siren) or chirrun with their
    hot-rods pressing hard on the loud pedal - and inviting those lights
    and sirens to set off in pursuit. Bv)=

    We hear the sirens off the main road a couple of blocks up but generally
    don't hear the traffic on our street. There's a big Catholic church down
    the road from that and when mass gets out (mass exodus) there's a lot
    more traffic on the street but generally not heard inside the house.


    Title: Snap, Crackle & Pop Crunchies
    Categories: Five, Chocolate, Grains, Snacks
    Yield: 12 Servings

    2 1/2 c Rice Krispies cereal
    8 oz Chocolate
    2 tb Light corn syrup
    Cupcake liners

    Looks good and easy, something to maybe make up for road snacks
    (munchies when we're travelling).

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... One of these days, I'll quit procrastinating.

    --- PPoint 3.01
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jun 8 05:28:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I shred anything with my name on it. The rest goes into the recycle
    pile with the old news (as if) papers and magazines.

    If it's sent with our name but obvious junk, it goes into recycle. If
    it's got any sort of ID number, it gets shredded.

    I do even the junque mail. The stuff I get to my alias (Salms Grilnek)
    goes into the waste bin or recycling pile unopened. Bv)=

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    I already have me "dream" home (if I hit the lottery) planned. Build
    my ultimate kitchen - then hang the rest of the "living" spaces off of that. Solar panels on the roof and a windmill generator in the yard.
    Than the thermal conditionig by heat pump.

    We'd probably bump out the back wall, make the kitchen and 2 "bedrooms" (computer room and sewingstudio) bigger.

    And I'd move to a less "busy" street. Fortunately my little crib is
    well insulated so I don't hear most of the traffic - except emergency vehicles on "angry" mode (lights & siren) or chirrun with their
    hot-rods pressing hard on the loud pedal - and inviting those lights
    and sirens to set off in pursuit. Bv)=

    We hear the sirens off the main road a couple of blocks up but
    generally don't hear the traffic on our street. There's a big Catholic church down the road from that and when mass gets out (mass exodus) there's a lot more traffic on the street but generally not heard inside the house.

    Well, fresh from being shorn of their sins their diving would, naturally,
    be somewhat subdued. Bv)=

    Title: Snap, Crackle & Pop Crunchies
    Categories: Five, Chocolate, Grains, Snacks
    Yield: 12 Servings

    2 1/2 c Rice Krispies cereal
    8 oz Chocolate
    2 tb Light corn syrup
    Cupcake liners

    Looks good and easy, something to maybe make up for road snacks
    (munchies when we're travelling).

    Or if you get Trick-or-Treat visitors on All Hallow's Eve.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Candied Apples
    Categories: Fruits, Candy, Snacks
    Yield: 6 Servings

    2 c Granulated sugar
    2 c Corn syrup
    1/3 c Cinnamon candy
    1 c Water
    3/4 ts Cinnamon
    1/2 ts Vanilla
    1/4 ts Cloves
    3/4 ts Red food coloring
    6 md Apples

    Remove stems from apples, wash, and pat dry. Insert a
    wooden skewer in each apple, running through the apple
    from stem end to base without protruding all the way
    through the bottom end.

    Combine sugar, corn syrup, cinnamon candies, and water in
    medium-sized saucepan. Cook until candies dissolve,
    stirring constantly. Be careful not to boil. Add cinnamon,
    vanilla, cloves, and food coloring. Mix thoroughly.

    Boil mixture to 300ºF/150ºC using a candy thermometer
    without stirring. While mixture is boiling, generously
    prepare a baking sheet with cooking spray so it’s ready
    ahead of time. As soon as mixture reaches 300ºF/150ºC,
    remove it from heat and quickly dip each apple-one by
    one-into the mixture until it is thoroughly coated. Set
    coated apples, standing on their bottoms with skewer
    pointing up, on baking sheet until mixture hardens.

    Let apples reach room temperature before eating.

    Recipe By: The Halloween Book

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jun 8 13:22:04 2024
    Hi Dave,


    If it's sent with our name but obvious junk, it goes into recycle. If
    it's got any sort of ID number, it gets shredded.

    I do even the junque mail. The stuff I get to my alias (Salms Grilnek) goes into the waste bin or recycling pile unopened. Bv)=

    Sometimes we open it to verify that it is indeed, junk stuff since some
    non junk stuff is sent bulk rate.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8


    And I'd move to a less "busy" street. Fortunately my little crib is
    well insulated so I don't hear most of the traffic - except emergency vehicles on "angry" mode (lights & siren) or chirrun with their
    hot-rods pressing hard on the loud pedal - and inviting those lights
    and sirens to set off in pursuit. Bv)=

    We hear the sirens off the main road a couple of blocks up but
    generally don't hear the traffic on our street. There's a big Catholic church down the road from that and when mass gets out (mass exodus) there's a lot more traffic on the street but generally not heard inside the house.

    Well, fresh from being shorn of their sins their diving would,
    naturally, be somewhat subdued. Bv)=

    Yes, but there's a lot of it. Trying to make a left turn coming out of
    our street onto South Main can be a problem certain times of the day. We
    have a STOP sign, S.Main has nothing. Town is going to have to put in a
    light eventually, probably when they re-do the intersection some years
    down the road.

    Title: Snap, Crackle & Pop Crunchies DD> Categories: Five,
    Chocolate, Grains, Snacks DD> Yield: 12 Servings

    2 1/2 c Rice Krispies cereal
    8 oz Chocolate
    2 tb Light corn syrup
    Cupcake liners

    Looks good and easy, something to maybe make up for road snacks
    (munchies when we're travelling).

    Or if you get Trick-or-Treat visitors on All Hallow's Eve.

    Some years we have quite a few, other years, nobody. Had about 30 last
    year but none in 2022. One year when we were living in the rental, we
    had about 60, mostly from the nearby Section 8 housing.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... If you focus only on the thorns you will miss the beauty of the rose.

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