• Video cable

    From Daniel@1:340/7 to All on Sat Aug 31 23:37:18 2019
    The C64 I received has a tv connector. I attempted to plug it into the 'yellow'
    rca port on my tv to no avail.

    I'm wondering if anyone has a spare audio/video connector they can sell me.

    Daniel Traechin
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  • From Daniel@1:153/135 to All on Sat Aug 31 23:37:00 2019
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  • From rbernardo@iglou.com@3:770/3 to All on Sun Sep 1 21:17:50 2019
    Ray Carlsen can build one for you, even one with a s-video connector.

    Writing from Anaheim, California,
    Robert Bernardo
    Fresno Commodore User Group
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  • From Anssi Saari@3:770/3 to Daniel on Mon Sep 2 16:13:29 2019
    nospam.Daniel@f1.n770.z2797.fidonet.org (Daniel) writes:

    The C64 I received has a tv connector. I attempted to plug it into the
    'yellow'
    rca port on my tv to no avail.

    Yellow usually means composite video while the RCA connector of the C64
    puts out an RF signal that should go to the antenna input of a TV.

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  • From Daniel@1:340/7 to Anssi Saari on Mon Sep 2 10:55:09 2019
    Re: Re: Video cable
    By: Anssi Saari to Daniel on Mon Sep 02 2019 04:13 pm

    Yellow usually means composite video while the RCA connector of the C64
    puts out an RF signal that should go to the antenna input of a TV.

    ohhhh, so i need one of those box things that converts the signal.

    well i ordered one on amazon.

    Daniel Traechin
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  • From rbernardo@iglou.com@3:770/3 to All on Mon Sep 2 18:11:03 2019
    I have a composite/s-video-to-HDMI converter that does well with the conversion (so well that Ray Carlsen bought one for himself). You can find it at

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-RCA-AV-CVBS-Composite-S-Video-R-L-Audio-to-HDMI-Conv erter-Adapter-Upscale/352644444452?hash=item521b3f3124:g:UyIAAOSw0ohdTTfJ

    Don't get the downscaler version which down-converts the HDMI signal to composite (the boxes look very similar).

    Truly,
    Robert Bernardo
    Fresno Commodore User Group
    http://www.dickestel.com/fcug.htm

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  • From Daniel@1:340/7 to rbernardo@iglou.com on Tue Sep 3 01:17:59 2019
    Re: Re: Video cable
    By: rbernardo@iglou.com to All on Mon Sep 02 2019 06:11 pm

    Don't get the downscaler version which down-converts the HDMI signal to composite (the boxes look very similar).

    I'll grab that device if what I bought doesn't work. It's delivered tomorrow.

    Daniel Traechin
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