Hi,

I've been experimenting with some offline mail readers - namely Q-Blue 2.4 and NesQWK. Both seem to work well, and Q-Blue has the added advantage of supporting BlueWave packets. I've been out of the Amiga BBSing world for a long time, so not sure what the current recommendation is for offline readers. I've read about the existence of QWKE. Do any Amiga readers support this?

Thanks!
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On 8/15/19 5:58 PM, Simon Geddes wrote:

Hi,

Hi,

I've been experimenting with some offline mail readers - namely
Q-Blue 2.4 and NesQWK. Both seem to work well, and Q-Blue has the
added advantage of supporting BlueWave packets. I've been out of
the Amiga BBSing world for a long time, so not sure what the current recommendation is for offline readers. I've read about the existence
of QWKE. Do any Amiga readers support this?

Wasn't QWK files (packets?) something from BBSs?

I would think that you would need something, like a BBS, to receive the
email, package it up, for you to then download it from, read / reply /
compose offline, and then subsequently upload to the BBS.

So, what is going to be the server (BBS) side that you exchange email
with? Will it handle your SMTP email?

Chances are good that I'm completely wrong. In which case, I'd like to
read a correction and learn something.

Thanks!

You're welcome.



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On 2019 Aug 16 21:31:00, you wrote to Simon Geddes:

I've been experimenting with some offline mail readers - namely
Q-Blue 2.4 and NesQWK. Both seem to work well, and Q-Blue has the
added advantage of supporting BlueWave packets. I've been out of
the Amiga BBSing world for a long time, so not sure what the current
recommendation is for offline readers. I've read about the existence
of QWKE. Do any Amiga readers support this?

Wasn't QWK files (packets?) something from BBSs?

BBSes still exist and yes, QWK offline mail packets are messages from BBSes...

I would think that you would need something, like a BBS, to receive
the email, package it up, for you to then download it from, read /
reply / compose offline, and then subsequently upload to the BBS.

that's exactly how it works...

So, what is going to be the server (BBS) side that you exchange email with? Will it handle your SMTP email?

SMTP mail depends on the software used on the BBS... some do support it, others do not... those that do not may be coerced into using it via packet manipulation...

Chances are good that I'm completely wrong. In which case, I'd like
to read a correction and learn something.

maybe the above helps?

)\/(ark
30+ year SYSOP

Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
... Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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On 8/17/19 3:06 AM, mark lewis wrote:

BBSes still exist and yes, QWK offline mail packets are messages
from BBSes...

that's exactly how it works...

ACK

SMTP mail depends on the software used on the BBS... some do support
it, others do not... those that do not may be coerced into using it
via packet manipulation...

Please elaborate on what you mean by "coerced into using it via packet manipulation.

First, what is the "packet" that is being manipulated in this context?
Is it a BBS term? Is it a TCP/IP packet? Is it something else?

Second, what sort of coercion would be required? What would it be
changed from? What would it be changed to?

maybe the above helps?

Thank you for the confirmation.

)\/(ark

Nice ASCII art. ;-)

30+ year SYSOP

Nice.

Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this
would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines
to enslave them.

~chuckle~

... Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

That depends if it's a 12-hour or a 24-hour clock. }:-)



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On 2019 Aug 17 21:41:30, you wrote to me:

SMTP mail depends on the software used on the BBS... some do support
it, others do not... those that do not may be coerced into using it
via packet manipulation...

Please elaborate on what you mean by "coerced into using it via packet manipulation.

in the case of FTN mail, one might use a gating package like GIGO to convert the SMTP mail to FTN mail and have the BBS process it for further dissemination...

)\/(ark

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Simon Geddes wrote to All <=-

I've been experimenting with some offline mail readers - namely Q-Blue
2.4 and NesQWK. Both seem to work well, and Q-Blue has the added
advantage of supporting BlueWave packets.

I've been meaning to try Q-Blue, but hadn't heard of NesQWK. I'll have to give
it a try as well. I've considered using Thor, but setup sounds a bit convoluted...



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At 11:50 AM on 19 Aug 19, Shaun Wheeler said to Simon Geddes:

Simon Geddes wrote to All <=-

I've been experimenting with some offline mail readers - namely Q-Blue
2.4 and NesQWK. Both seem to work well, and Q-Blue has the added
advantage of supporting BlueWave packets.

I've been meaning to try Q-Blue, but hadn't heard of NesQWK. I'll have
to give it a try as well. I've considered using Thor, but setup sounds
a bit convoluted...

Using Q-Blue at the moment. It seems like a very functional, pleasant piece of software to use. It also works very nicely on MorphOS, which is impressive considering it seems
like fairly vintage software. NesQWK is a lot more modern, but because it runs on Workbench, it's a less "immersive" experience.

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nospam.Simon.Geddes@f1.n770.z492.fidonet.org (Simon Geddes) writes:

Using Q-Blue at the moment. It seems like a very functional, pleasant piece

of

software to use. It also works very nicely on MorphOS, which is impressive considering it seems
like fairly vintage software. NesQWK is a lot more modern, but because it

runs

on Workbench, it's a less "immersive" experience.

Just curious but what's the reason for offline mail readers today? Back
in the day I used offline readers to save on phone costs and I suppose
it was more efficient for the BBS too with limited phone lines... But
are these issues relevant today?

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At 4:09 PM on 2 Sep 19, Anssi Saari said to Simon Geddes:

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Just curious but what's the reason for offline mail readers today? Back
in the day I used offline readers to save on phone costs and I suppose
it was more efficient for the BBS too with limited phone lines... But
are these issues relevant today?

I like being able to work on messages in my own time, without the sense of being connected - even though call costs are not really an issue there is still a feeling of being "hurried" which I don't have when working offline. I might like to use a spell checker in the future too, once I become more au fait with changing the editor in Q-Blue. Plus I use dial-up and am thinking about calling international boards because I've exhausted the meagre UK offerings that still offer dial-up connections. This will very much make call costs relevant again too! I could "just" telnet, but I like not having internet in the home. It makes it something of a sanctury.

I wrote the previous paragraph last night, packed the message ready for uploading the next day. Then, pondering what I wrote after going up to bed, I realised I had been needlessly inflammatory with a few points. So another unappreciated benefit of using an offline reader is it gives a bit of buffer between writing and posting.

Trump might find such an innovation handy for his Twitter account!

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