Hello everybody!
can someone explain to me how to compile the nodelist??
not just for fightonet but for others as well??
ie I currently belong to 3 networks so far

I have

root-domain binkp.net

perl-hooks /home/michael/fido/nodelist.pl

perl-var nodelist /home/michael/fido/ftn/fileboxes/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.[0-9][0-9][0-9]

perl-var magichost *

I have nodelists in /fido/nodelist/
I have tried unzipping them and compressed
if I leave the perl-var nodelist in, I always get a no nodelist error when polling

what am I doing wrong or missing?

Thanks,
Micheal2

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Re: nodelist how to?
By: Micheal Pierce to All on Tue May 05 2020 10:05:20

can someone explain to me how to compile the nodelist??
not just for fightonet but for others as well??
ie I currently belong to 3 networks so far

root-domain binkp.net

don't use this line... add binkp.net to the end of your domain line for fidonet...

i don't use the perl hooks... AFAIK, the existing nodelist perl thing with binkd is not for compiling the nodelist into a binkd nodelist but for performing lookups on the nodelist...

i prefer to use the binkd_nodelister.pl script to build my binkd compatible nodelist... it can also be used to other nets but you have to be sure to specify the input, error, and output files for those othernet nodelists... i think there's one other problem in that it adds "@fidonet" to the end of all addresses even if they are not fidonet addresses... that's a small bug that can be fixed...


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Hi Micheal.

05 May 20 10:05:20, you wrote to All:

root-domain binkp.net
perl-hooks /home/michael/fido/nodelist.pl
perl-var nodelist /home/michael/fido/ftn/fileboxes/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.[0-9][0-9][0-
9]

perl-var magichost *

I have nodelists in /fido/nodelist/
I have tried unzipping them and compressed
if I leave the perl-var nodelist in, I always get a no nodelist error
when polling

Did you read the nodelist.pl file? It is well documented there in the beginning.

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#
# Perl nodelist compiler for binkd ver 0.3
# Copyright (C) Pavel Gulchouck 2:463/68 2009-2013
#
# Add folowing lines to your binkd.cfg (with correct pathes):
#
#perl-hooks /etc/fido/nodelist.pl
#perl-var nodelist fidonet:/home/fnet/nodelist/nodelist.[0-9][0-9][0-9] #perl-var magichost *
#perl-dll perl58.dll # only for win32 and os/2 versions with runtime DLL load
#
# and then "*" in hosts list will be substituted to INA value from nodelist.
# If set magichost to another value (i.e. '!' or '+'), you can preserve
# traditional meaning of '*'.
# Note that strictIP (-ip or -sip flags) will not check by nodelist info.
#
# Binkd version must be 1.0a-534 or later and compiled with perl support
#
# Parse flags IBN, INA, DOM, IRD; fetch information from phone and from
# system name if any.
#
=== Cut ===

'Tommi

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i don't use the perl hooks... AFAIK, the existing nodelist perl thing with binkd is not for compiling the nodelist into a binkd nodelist but for performing lookups on the nodelist...

i prefer to use the binkd_nodelister.pl script to build my binkd
compatible nodelist... it can also be used to other nets but you have to
be sure to specify the input, error, and output files for those othernet nodelists... i think there's one other problem in that it adds "@fidonet" to the end of all addresses even if they are not fidonet addresses... that's a small bug that can be fixed...

I am not sure why you need to use the nodelist in binkd since all the nodes can be included in the Binkd.cfg. The mail tosser should be able to route the outgoing mail to the correct nodes or to your hub. Syncterm and CNet has a route-to already included in the mail tosser config. That is the easer way to do it.
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Hello Tommi!

06 May 20 00:33, you wrote to me:

Hi Micheal.

05 May 20 10:05:20, you wrote to All:

root-domain binkp.net
perl-hooks /home/michael/fido/nodelist.pl
perl-var nodelist
/home/michael/fido/ftn/fileboxes/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.[0-9][0-9
][0- 9]

perl-var magichost *

I have nodelists in /fido/nodelist/
I have tried unzipping them and compressed
if I leave the perl-var nodelist in, I always get a no nodelist
error when polling

Did you read the nodelist.pl file? It is well documented there in the beginning.

=== Cut ===
#
# Perl nodelist compiler for binkd ver 0.3
# Copyright (C) Pavel Gulchouck 2:463/68 2009-2013
#
# Add folowing lines to your binkd.cfg (with correct pathes):
#
#perl-hooks /etc/fido/nodelist.pl
#perl-var nodelist
fidonet:/home/fnet/nodelist/nodelist.[0-9][0-9][0-9] #perl-var
magichost * #perl-dll perl58.dll # only for win32 and os/2 versions
with runtime DLL load # # and then "*" in hosts list will be
substituted to INA value from nodelist. # If set magichost to another value (i.e. '!' or '+'), you can preserve # traditional meaning of
'*'. # Note that strictIP (-ip or -sip flags) will not check by
nodelist info. # # Binkd version must be 1.0a-534 or later and
compiled with perl support # # Parse flags IBN, INA, DOM, IRD; fetch information from phone and from # system name if any. #
=== Cut ===

'Tommi

actually yes, I did read it.. and tried it.. everytime I included the perl-hooks, binkd would say "no nodelist" and I put that nodelist everywhere trying to get it to see it.

I tried it with "fidonet:" in the line.. then it errored out.. thats WHY posted my question!!!

Micheal

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Hello Phillip!

06 May 20 09:37, you wrote to all:

i prefer to use the binkd_nodelister.pl script to build my binkd
compatible nodelist... it can also be used to other nets but you
have to be sure to specify the input, error, and output files for
those othernet nodelists... i think there's one other problem in
that it adds "@fidonet" to the end of all addresses even if they
are not fidonet addresses... that's a small bug that can be
fixed...

I am not sure why you need to use the nodelist in binkd since all the nodes can be included in the Binkd.cfg. The mail tosser should be able
to route the outgoing mail to the correct nodes or to your hub.
Syncterm and CNet has a route-to already included in the mail tosser config. That is the easer way to do it.

one reason would be file requests - and routed file requests dont generally work especially for points.

Micheal

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Hello Micheal,

one reason would be file requests - and routed file requests dont generally work especially for points.

A routed file request will never work. You need to request a file directly with the node that has the file you want and also that node needs to support file requests.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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I am not sure why you need to use the nodelist in binkd since all the nodes can
be included in the Binkd.cfg. The mail tosser should be able to route the outgo
ng mail to the correct nodes or to your hub. Syncterm and CNet has a route-to >ready included in the mail tosser config. That is the easer way to do it.

Well, the one reason I can think of to use it is that if you want to send a node a direct netmail, and you don't usually connect with them, you have to
set them up in the cfg before you can connect to them.

I am assuming that, with the nodelist enabled, you don't have to do that so long as their nodelist entry is accurate. I assume that because I usually
just add them to the cfg file. :)

Mike


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06 May 20 09:37, Phillip Taylor wrote to All:

I am not sure why you need to use the nodelist in binkd

Ever heard of crash netmail? :)

'Tommi

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06 May 20 07:53, Micheal Pierce wrote to Tommi Koivula:

Did you read the nodelist.pl file? It is well documented there in the
beginning.

I tried it with "fidonet:" in the line.. then it errored out.. thats WHY

posted

my question!!!

It works here just like that. I don't know what you are doing wrong.

Are you sure you have compiled your binkd '--with-perl' ?

'Tommi

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Hi! Tommi,

On 05/07/2020 04:26 PM, you wrote to Phillip Taylor:

I am not sure why you need to use the nodelist in binkd

Ever heard of crash netmail? :)

Some people don't/haven't ever, mate.

BTW, did that young feller from Odessa in the Ukraine get on to you last month? You were the first of three or four people I recommended to him.

Cheers,
Paul.

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"Paul Quinn : Tommi Koivula" <125@1384.640.3> wrote:

On 05/07/2020 04:26 PM, you wrote to Phillip Taylor:

I am not sure why you need to use the nodelist in binkd

Ever heard of crash netmail? :)

Some people don't/haven't ever, mate.

You're probably right down there. ;) But people talking about binkd should have an idea?

BTW, did that young feller from Odessa in the Ukraine get on to you last month? You were the first of three or four people I recommended to him.

Nope..

'Tommi

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Tommi wrote (2020-05-07):

06 May 20 07:53, Micheal Pierce wrote to Tommi Koivula:

Did you read the nodelist.pl file? It is well documented there in
the beginning.

I tried it with "fidonet:" in the line.. then it errored out..
thats WHY posted my question!!!

It works here just like that. I don't know what you are doing wrong.

worked for me too. Only restriction is that it supports only one nodelist.

btw, is there a way to do something like this with perl-var?:

perl-var nodelist fidonet NODELIST.[0-9][0-9][0-9]
perl-var nodelist othernet OTHERNET.[0-9][0-9][0-9]

or
perl-var nodelist ("fidonet", "NODELIST.[0-9][0-9][0-9]")

or would it be
nodelist_fidonet NODELIST.[0-9][0-9][0-9]
and some perl magic in the nodelist script?

what would be the best way to feed multiple nodelists into the nodelist script?

Are you sure you have compiled your binkd '--with-perl' ?

is it then still accepting the perl-var line without complaining?

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Micheal wrote (2020-05-05):

Hello everybody!
can someone explain to me how to compile the nodelist??
not just for fightonet but for others as well??
ie I currently belong to 3 networks so far

I have

root-domain binkp.net

perl-hooks /home/michael/fido/nodelist.pl

perl-var nodelist /home/michael/fido/ftn/fileboxes/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.[0-9][0-9][0-9]

perl-var magichost *

I have nodelists in /fido/nodelist/
I have tried unzipping them and compressed
if I leave the perl-var nodelist in, I always get a no nodelist error
when polling

what am I doing wrong or missing?

are the paths correct?

not sure if the file names are case sensitive. is the nodelist file on disk all uppercase?

do you have "defnode *" in binkd.cfg?

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Hi Oli.

07 May 20 13:34:26, you wrote to me:

worked for me too. Only restriction is that it supports only one
nodelist.

btw, is there a way to do something like this with perl-var?:

perl-var nodelist fidonet NODELIST.[0-9][0-9][0-9]
perl-var nodelist othernet OTHERNET.[0-9][0-9][0-9]

or
perl-var nodelist ("fidonet", "NODELIST.[0-9][0-9][0-9]")

or would it be
nodelist_fidonet NODELIST.[0-9][0-9][0-9]
and some perl magic in the nodelist script?

what would be the best way to feed multiple nodelists into the
nodelist script?

In case of multiple nodelists it may be easiest to use pre-compiled included lists.

Are you sure you have compiled your binkd '--with-perl' ?

is it then still accepting the perl-var line without complaining?

Probably not. :)

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binkd.exe -vv
Binkd 1.1a-104 (May 3 2020 10:28:19/CYGWIN_NT-6.1-7601)
Compilation flags: gcc, zlib, bzlib2, https, bwlim, af_force.
Facilities: fts5004 ipv6

binkd.exe binkd-perl.cfg
08:50 [1185] binkd-perl.cfg: line 4: error in configuration files
? 08:50 [1185] perl-hooks: unknown keyword
! 08:50 [1185] error in configuration, aborting

type binkd-perl.cfg
include binkd.cfg
log binkd_%computername%-perl.log
loglevel 4
perl-hooks \\bbs\\binkd\\nodelist.pl
perl-var nodelist fidonet:\\bbs\\nodelist\\dailylst.[0-9][0-9][0-9]
perl-var magichost *
perl-dll perl510.dll # only for win32 and os/2 versions with runtime DLL load

=== Cut ===

'Tommi

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Tommi wrote (2020-05-08):

Hi Tommi

what would be the best way to feed multiple nodelists into the
nodelist script?

In case of multiple nodelists it may be easiest to use pre-compiled included lists.

but then there is no way to make use of nodelist flags, e.g. IBNS.

Are you sure you have compiled your binkd '--with-perl' ?

is it then still accepting the perl-var line without complaining?

Probably not. :)

=== Cut ===
binkd.exe -vv
Binkd 1.1a-104 (May 3 2020 10:28:19/CYGWIN_NT-6.1-7601)
Compilation flags: gcc, zlib, bzlib2, https, bwlim, af_force.
Facilities: fts5004 ipv6

binkd.exe binkd-perl.cfg
08:50 [1185] binkd-perl.cfg: line 4: error in configuration files
? 08:50 [1185] perl-hooks: unknown keyword
! 08:50 [1185] error in configuration, abortin//g

thanks for testing.

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Re: nodelist how to?
By: Oli to Tommi Koivula on Fri May 08 2020 13:09:36

what would be the best way to feed multiple nodelists into the
nodelist script?

In case of multiple nodelists it may be easiest to use pre-compiled included lists.

but then there is no way to make use of nodelist flags, e.g. IBNS.

binkd doesn't care about nodelist flags... the scripts used to create binkd compatible node files can use them, though, to generate a proper entry for a node in the node files...


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Hi Oli,

On 2020-05-08 13:09:36, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

In case of multiple nodelists it may be easiest to use pre-compiled
included lists.

but then there is no way to make use of nodelist flags, e.g. IBNS.

This php version:

http://ambrosia60.ddnss.org/53f8ee03/drv_q/div27/i-util/bnlphp13.zip

Handles it just fine. It's also suitable for multiple nodelists from different nets.

Bye, Wilfred.

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* Originally from Oli to Tommi Koivula :

what would be the best way to feed multiple nodelists into the
nodelist script?

In case of multiple nodelists it may be easiest to use pre-compiled included lists.

but then there is no way to make use of nodelist flags, e.g.
IBNS.

I am using this one to create binkd nodelist in my OS/2 system:

# nl2binkd v1.09
# (c) 2012-2018 by Markus Reschke

It would be possible to fix it to support 'special' flags too.

But IBN is the only flag binkd really needs. At least at the moment. ;)

'Tommi

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Hello Tommi!

07 May 2020 09:26, Tommi Koivula wrote to Phillip Taylor:

I am not sure why you need to use the nodelist in binkd

Ever heard of crash netmail? :)

copyrighted by W@rd :)

see examples in inbox


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Tommi wrote (2020-05-09):

* Originally from Oli to Tommi Koivula :

what would be the best way to feed multiple nodelists into the
nodelist script?

In case of multiple nodelists it may be easiest to use
pre-compiled included lists.

but then there is no way to make use of nodelist flags, e.g.
IBNS.

I am using this one to create binkd nodelist in my OS/2 system:

# nl2binkd v1.09
# (c) 2012-2018 by Markus Reschke

Hi mark, Wilfred, Tommi. Thanks for the links.

I'm already using some older version of nl2binkd, but the php script looks interesting too.

It would be possible to fix it to support 'special' flags too.

I did modify it (trial and error) to add support for an experimental Onion address user flag.

But IBN is the only flag binkd really needs. At least at the moment. ;)

As I wrote, I'm interested in support for other flags, like IBNS (for binkps), IBNQ (binkp over QUIC), IBNO (for Onion addresses), etc. I also would like to dynamically use SOCKS servers for the different encrypted protocols. Using the perl hook for the nodelist processing would be much more flexible and straight forward. The only thing that is missing in binkd is the ability to set the -pipe parameter in perl.

No need to discuss how useful or unnecessary this is, it's only experimental ;)

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On 9.5.2020 14:19, Oli wrote:

As I wrote, I'm interested in support for other flags, like IBNS
(for binkps), IBNQ (binkp over QUIC), IBNO (for Onion addresses),
etc. I also would like to dynamically use SOCKS servers for the
different encrypted protocols. Using the perl hook for the nodelist processing would be much more flexible and straight forward. The
only thing that is missing in binkd is the ability to set the -pipe
parameter in perl.

No need to discuss how useful or unnecessary this is, it's only
experimental ;)

Sounds interesting. :) I'm only supporting IBNS at the moment...

'Tommi

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